"I feel like Donald is about to take his ball and go home"
The administration is steadily disintegrating, he doesn't really have a clear political agenda (does he?), I know he doesn't care that he's being clowned by damn near the whole world but I feel like four or eight years of this isn't what he really wants
It seems unlikely but at the same time I wouldn't put it past him. He only plays as long as he feels like he's winning, I don't think he'll feel like he's winning if it just goes on like this indefinitely
20. "Bannon still fucks with Trump, though." In response to Reply # 11 Sat Aug-19-17 03:44 PM by squeeg
Bannon and his white supremacist followers are still on Trump's side, but feel that "the battle" will be fought outside of the government.
> “If there’s any confusion out there, let me clear it up: I’m leaving the White House > and going to war for Trump against his opponents -- on Capitol Hill, in the media, > and in corporate America,” Bannon told Bloomberg News Friday in his first public > comments after his departure was announced.
> According to a person close to Bannon, he met Wednesday with conservative > billionaire Robert Mercer, co-chief executive of Renaissance Technologies and > a major financial supporter of both Trump and Bannon’s efforts. The two > mapped out a path ahead for Bannon’s post-White House career and discussed > how Trump could get his agenda back on track.
> The following evening, Mercer and several other major Republican donors had > dinner with Trump to share their thinking, and Mercer also had a private > meeting with Trump to pledge to redouble his efforts to support Bannon and > advance Trump’s agenda.
24. "i disagree with that, he has people still." In response to Reply # 6
the people he has left are the most powerful one. fringe bigots and smiling faces from the business world? who cares?
establishment republicans still back him in many significant ways (out of necessity but still) and the kochs of the world still back him. he is doing damage quietly even though he can't get shit for legislation passed. his cabinet picks are doing what they came to do for the most part.
now the old-guard GOP is going to be the group that finally sticks the knife in him. they have been waiting since day one for the moment to dump him and insert pence. what are they waiting for? i can only guess, but they don't seem to be moving very aggressively. once the moment arrives, they will get behind the probe and his ass will be toast.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
LAbeathustla Member since Jan 24th 2004 33858 posts
Sat Aug-19-17 02:27 PM
16. "dude is going to quit bcz hes a blamer. and he cannot control the govt" In response to Reply # 0
hes going back to his failing businesses...like Mara Largo....where all these companies just pulled out of conventions they had booked there...hes going to go back to something he can be in control of... hes jus now realzing its just too much shit with this presidential bullshit... he cant control, repubs, media, dems...nobody...
GriftyMcgrift Member since May 22nd 2002 20414 posts
Sat Aug-19-17 02:47 PM
17. "the only upside i can sadly pull from this" In response to Reply # 16
that his time as president might actually further hurt his private businesses (hopefully) as opposed to help which im sure was his ultimately goal all along
LAbeathustla Member since Jan 24th 2004 33858 posts
Sat Aug-19-17 02:54 PM
18. "he'll be fine...hes prolly made a grip off the russian mob..." In response to Reply # 17
they are heavily invested in his properties...as far as his other bullshit like trump U ventures or steaks and shit...i dont think hes going to be trying to pull any of those "fuck over people" types of ventures in the near future..he'll prolly try to go into the "fake news" business..
51. "RE: dude is going to quit bcz hes a blamer. and he cannot control the go..." In response to Reply # 16
>hes going back to his failing businesses...like Mara >Largo....where all these companies just pulled out of >conventions they had booked there...hes going to go back to >something he can be in control of... hes jus now realzing its >just too much shit with this presidential bullshit... he cant >control, repubs, media, dems...nobody...
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GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....
21. "He's making too much money to quit." In response to Reply # 0
First POTUS to profit off the government to this extent:
Forcing taxpayers to pay for his trips to NYC every weekend to stay at HIS HOTEL.
Forces taxpayers to pay for trips to HIS GOLF COURSE.
Forces taxpayers to pay for protection as his family conducts business deals around the world.
His son out here holding conferences charging people money to have a smoother process conducting business here.
Trump needs to go further and buy a power company. Deregulate the utilities industry even more with the net neutrality of electricity using Trump power.
Trump getting the bag at our expense to an unprecendented level so why quit? These racist fucks won't elect another CEO President promising to return to 1940's racism after this debacle.
22. "Let me say this one time: He is NOT resigning" In response to Reply # 0
Look at his ilk throughout history and at this present moment. They cling to power. They can't cut their losses. He is lucky he in a country where you're pretty much bulletproof as a federal official at this level. If he were Peruvian he'd end up in jail, if he were in Thailand the military would come for him and in some parts of the world he'd end up getting hanged maybe.
He will cling to this presidency to its dying breath. The longer he stays in office, the more he can skim off the top and the more his anti-regulatory agenda can cement itself. It's also very much an ego thing. He hates the logistics of being president but he won't give them up because he can, and does, say I'm the fucking president and you're fucking not to anyone he feels like putting down.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
26. "Why would ANYONE resign in his position?" In response to Reply # 22
First lets just admit:
He's a racist. He's a criminal. He's incompetent. He doesn't give a fuck about the working class - and he only has the WHITE working class because of racism. He's likely insane.
BUT... he's got the power to end the world with aWORD.
There's no way he'll ever ever ever quit - ever.
And also face this: Republican's will NEVER - NEVER NEVER vote to IMPEACH HIM, then let' jut say they do they will NEVERx10,000 times vote to remove him from office.
He's there for the long hall unless he has a medical issue that prevents him from tweeting.
All I can say is : Fuck the 90,00 goobers who put him in office.
28. "agree with you except for the impeachment part" In response to Reply # 26
they don't have any loyalty to him and if he gets removed from office they hang onto the presidency. if/when it becomes politically profitable to give him the boot, they will do it. he hasn't been the blunt instrument they expected him to be, at least not effectively so. if it gets to the point where he more toxic than bush from 06 onward, they will yank him and refashion the party around pence.
And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
29. "He has a God complex, he's never going to resign. Ever." In response to Reply # 0
Dude will blame literally every other human being on Earth and come to the conclusion that we're just not ready for him yet, like some messiah. He'll never admit defeat.
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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin
30. "ego, financial gain, and avoiding jail = reasons he won't quit " In response to Reply # 0
The chaos in dc, first/fastest lame duck presidency, arguing wit the press and being a isolated lonely old man don't matter. He found out He hated the actual job in the 1st 90 days, but likes the fake part of having empty business councils, photo ops, executive order signings
He will tweet, golf, and hold reelection rallies thru all the rest
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bunda <-.-> ^_^ \^0^/ get busy living, or get busy dying.
32. "not unless/until the Senate is going to convict him." In response to Reply # 0
Nixon quit b4 the House could impeach him.
Clinton stuck it out through the impeachment b/c he knew the Senate wasn't going to convict.
Trump will do the same - he would live through an impeachment in the House. but if the votes are there in the Senate to convict/remove - he'd quit.
of course, all of this assumes the House has the guts/votes to impeach. i don't see that happening any time soon. which means i don't think homie is going to quit.
36. "I dunno, seems like he's on the firmest ground yet" In response to Reply # 0
His family has won the internal, White House fight between themselves, establishment Republicans and Bannon. In his White House staff, he's surrounded by mostly family and military... folks that will likely be more loyal or just not completely insubordinate.
The Russia stuff might still do him in but I think the clown show is over. Now you've just got to watch out for kleptocracy , war mongering/profiteering, with the occasional side of nationalistic racism... you know,the usual.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Tue Aug-22-17 10:27 AM
38. "really? Dude is always one tweet away IMO" In response to Reply # 36
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
37. "he hates the job, but he loves the position" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Aug-21-17 03:30 PM by Mynoriti
I want to believe he'll get frustrated and bounce, but it's nearly impossible to imagine a guy whose only belief and value system is himself would give up his position as ruler of the world
49. "It's embarrassing to both of us to differentiate" In response to Reply # 48
A civil society does not guarantee justice to every individual.
Attila....have you ever considered the idea that you are pathological. Amongst the luckiest of human beings to ever exist....also amongst the most begrieved.
45. "Clean coal..meaning they're taking out the coal & they're gonna clean it..." In response to Reply # 41 Tue Aug-22-17 10:22 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik
58. "prolly just liberal bubble talk" In response to Reply # 55
as much as i want to believe he's right
every time i turn on msnbc, the walls are closing in and it's about to be over, or they're propping up some msnbc RINO like Nicole Wallace or Steve Schmidt to talk about how they cant believe what's happening to their party, and pretending it's a huge deal or signs of a shift
60. "Yah." In response to Reply # 58 Wed Aug-23-17 09:43 PM by denny
You'd think that after a full year of 'he's finally stepped over the line' we would learn.
The Clapper statement today might be fruitful in opening up more space for Republicans to man up and disavow themselves of him. At least it seems like there's been some ground made there the past couple weeks.
I love the American free press. CNN, NYT, WP, David motherfucking Frum and the Atlantic. Bill Maher. Anderson Cooper. Don Lemon. There's many more....but I consider all of them heros right now. This past year has changed my view of America as a whole. You guys have an amazing country and I've come to realize that the rest of the world has, at times, taken you guys for granted. The modern world needs America....it's ideals, it's institutions, it's philosophies. Those things are under attack and it took this situation for me to realize how sacred America is and what America means to the rest of the world.
I don't usually go to protests or political gatherings. But if this motherfucker gets impeached or is somehow forced out as Mcconnell predicted earlier in the week....I am GOING to the public gathering and I'll be waving an American flag.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Thu Aug-24-17 07:30 AM
62. "That Fox News playbook" In response to Reply # 58
giving the viewers a false sense of hope followed by anger and frustration.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
63. "Ha! I remember my repub friends when Obama won the 2nd term" In response to Reply # 62
>giving the viewers a false sense of hope followed by anger >and frustration. >
All, "ILL NEVER WATCH FOX NEWS AGAIN. THEY LIED. ROMNEY HAD IT IN TEH BAG" lol.
While many news sources stepped their game the fuck up, particularly in print/web traditional journalism (nytimes, washpost, poltico, etc)...cable news still panders way to much to what the watchers want to hear as opposed to the truth.
65. "yup" In response to Reply # 63 Thu Aug-24-17 03:50 PM by Mynoriti
i rarely watch cable news anymore, but i happened to catch msnbc the other day and Brian Williams had Steve Schmidt on. Brian opens with this "Now this guy bleeds republican red!", and i'm just shaking my fucking head. not that he's not a republican, but all these guys, Morning Joe, Michael Steele, Schmidt, Frum.... the right stopped claiming them a long time ago. Even before Trump came around, plus none of them hold any kind of office. Them being disgusted by Trump means dick
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Thu Aug-24-17 03:56 PM
68. "i legit feel like MSNBC and CNN knew Trump had a real good chance" In response to Reply # 63
of winning the election and they played the fuck out of viewers because that anger = big ratings
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
64. "i don't think so" In response to Reply # 58 Thu Aug-24-17 08:48 AM by makaveli
I know that nobody here agrees with me when I say this but Trump ain't lasting four years. He's steadily losing the Republican support that he did have, and he's a crazy person, and dumb, and a criminal. His goofy tweets this morning indicate some news is coming in the next couple days. Every day we get a little closer to the end.
“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”
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