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KiloMcG
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"Charlottesville, VA about to be lit (link) "


  

          

Unite the Right rally scheduled for tomorrow.

http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/citing-extremist-groups-and-violence-mcauliffe-urges-residents-to-stay/article_aa951946-87ad-5a25-ae6e-d0078dfd2df6.html

  

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Racism will die off with the boomer generation !!!
Aug 11th 2017
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Right
Aug 11th 2017
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It's wild how much the right fucks with the left
Aug 12th 2017
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Isn't a fight what they're looking for?
Aug 12th 2017
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      Snowflakes one minute, violent thugs the next..lol
Aug 12th 2017
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      All in the same sentence. Haha
Aug 12th 2017
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      Can't ignore away racism
Aug 12th 2017
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      Yeah I wasn't saying to ignore racism.
Aug 12th 2017
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           Silent ?
Aug 12th 2017
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                I stated above that I don't have the answers.
Aug 12th 2017
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                     RE: I stated above that I don't have the answers.
Aug 12th 2017
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                          This part.
Aug 14th 2017
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      Not all. Most of them just want to instill fear.
Aug 12th 2017
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           Yeah I get it.
Aug 12th 2017
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           RE: Yeah I get it.
Aug 12th 2017
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           It's actually the opposite.
Aug 12th 2017
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                Hey white dumb Canadian man. Sit this one out.
Aug 12th 2017
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                     Is this your logic in action?
Aug 12th 2017
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                          I don't respect you personally. You. This is about you.
Aug 12th 2017
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                               ^Alt-right recruitment propaganda^
Aug 12th 2017
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                                    Meh.
Aug 12th 2017
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                                    I hate the fact we can't block assholes like him on this
Aug 12th 2017
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                                         I could cave his entire chest in on a 1v1
Aug 12th 2017
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                                              Lol that escalated quickly
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                   I mean dude was like "you're why people sympathize with Nazis" summarize...
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                        He also called me a cuck.
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                             People that have never fought imagine fights escalating to interaction
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                             I never said something about you.
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                                  I don't disagree
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                                  You know __ about who I am.
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                                       LMAO I'm the clown but you spewing Fight Club rules.
Aug 13th 2017
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                                                                  I'm saying what I say about you. Fuck what you say about me.
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                                  Thank you for responding.
Aug 13th 2017
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                                                                  White people fuel the backlash and there's plenty of proof of that
Aug 14th 2017
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                                                                  Maybe look into what tribes were sold in Africa and their backgrounds
Aug 14th 2017
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                                                             Do you co-sign this?
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                                  You called me a cuck.
Aug 12th 2017
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                                                                  what happened to you?
Aug 13th 2017
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                                                                       RE: what happened to you?
Aug 13th 2017
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                                                                       He discovered he's a "classic liberal".
Aug 13th 2017
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                                                                            And the beat goes on.
Aug 14th 2017
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                                                                                 What is anti whiteness? Who's perpetuating it and how ?
Aug 14th 2017
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                                    Not really
Aug 14th 2017
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Same as it ever was
Aug 12th 2017
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BLM shouldve had a rally too...fk these clowns
Aug 12th 2017
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They are. In Chicago.
Aug 12th 2017
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      so? they couldve had a peaceful rally anywhere
Aug 12th 2017
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           Black people donf exist to validate white grievances.
Aug 12th 2017
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Car runs into crowd (video link)
Aug 12th 2017
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damn
Aug 12th 2017
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Different and more graphic video (link)
Aug 12th 2017
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Holy shit
Aug 12th 2017
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damn.
Aug 12th 2017
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VICE reported they were BLM protestors who were ran down
Aug 12th 2017
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There was a well-known alt-right figure beside the car.
Aug 12th 2017
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19 injured. 1dead.
Aug 12th 2017
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Footage is crazy.
Aug 12th 2017
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RE: That asshole is wearing a helmet.
Aug 12th 2017
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the more white supremecists are emobldened the more
Aug 12th 2017
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      RE: 100% agreed.
Aug 12th 2017
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I just see a bunch of people who never fought before trying to fight lol...
Aug 12th 2017
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      True.
Aug 12th 2017
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      That woman is a friend of mine
Aug 12th 2017
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pic of the collision from behind car (they got the license plate too):
Aug 12th 2017
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ohio plates. shocker.
Aug 12th 2017
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you know the internet tracked him down already:
Aug 12th 2017
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      He's in custody now
Aug 12th 2017
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      A white Jerome?
Aug 12th 2017
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      I wouldn't trust Pol.
Aug 12th 2017
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           yeah they fucked up. deleted the page now.
Aug 12th 2017
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      Hes from Detroit and his name is Joel
Aug 12th 2017
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           turns out that is the wrong dude lol. his pop sold that car years ago.
Aug 12th 2017
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           weird ass coincidence? look at this list of trump contributers:
Aug 12th 2017
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           Alex Fields Jr. (20)
Aug 12th 2017
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                Mugshot
Aug 12th 2017
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                     of course hes got that stupid hair cut lol
Aug 12th 2017
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                          Smh, the haircut is ridiculous
Aug 12th 2017
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Quite likely to become an iconic photograph.
Aug 12th 2017
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      Pictures of black people in distress tend to do so
Aug 14th 2017
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ray lewis comments on charlottesville:
Aug 12th 2017
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LMAO - that could easily be a real quote from Dr Lewis
Aug 12th 2017
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HA - I'll take "Shit a Hypocritical Murderer Would Say" for $1000, Alex.
Aug 12th 2017
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You've got to be fucking kidding me
Aug 12th 2017
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Aug 12th 2017
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fake news
Aug 12th 2017
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LOL
Aug 12th 2017
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fuck Trump
Aug 12th 2017
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Human Garbage
Aug 12th 2017
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      but then thanked george washington and thomas jefferson lol.
Aug 12th 2017
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      Yeah that was kinda weird,
Aug 12th 2017
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      my head hurts from uncontrollable eye rolling
Aug 12th 2017
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the reddit "Whatabout" saturation is reaching maximum levels
Aug 12th 2017
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I don't understand going there to protest.
Aug 12th 2017
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im with you.
Aug 12th 2017
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I'm not gonna front.....I'm currently pro-Antifa.
Aug 12th 2017
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How will violent attacks on white nationalists work?
Aug 12th 2017
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As opposed to running over 35 people?
Aug 13th 2017
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the fuck is wrong with you denny?
Aug 13th 2017
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RE: the fuck is wrong with you denny?
Aug 14th 2017
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      Please...
Aug 14th 2017
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      You are factually incorrect.
Aug 14th 2017
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           I lost all interest at ''virtue signalling''...
Aug 14th 2017
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                RE: I lost all interest at ''virtue signalling''...
Aug 14th 2017
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                     A worthwhile watch:
Aug 14th 2017
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      Nope. I'm going to teach Foucault in *all* my classes now
Aug 14th 2017
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why is this dude still allowed to post here?
Aug 14th 2017
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      RE: why is this dude still allowed to post here?
Aug 14th 2017
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Antifa doesn't do any good
Aug 13th 2017
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Laying down is not going to work
Aug 13th 2017
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i like that you brought up DMZ....
Aug 13th 2017
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RE: Antifa doesn't do any good
Aug 13th 2017
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      exactly.....
Aug 13th 2017
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sadly there needs to be at least a little violence.
Aug 14th 2017
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Don't be where the enemy expects you to be
Aug 13th 2017
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.
Aug 13th 2017
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      Does that include
Aug 13th 2017
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           Speaking more to those who confront the white folks at these events
Aug 14th 2017
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So what exactly happened to the helicopter? This is all I can find (link...
Aug 13th 2017
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don't know
Aug 13th 2017
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My guess is it ran out of fuel due to too much circling
Aug 14th 2017
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The helicopter thing seems weird to me.
Aug 13th 2017
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Protest in Richmond VA (link/swipe)
Aug 13th 2017
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damn
Aug 14th 2017
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Apparently a "save the monuments" group has filed a request
Aug 14th 2017
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      I used to get in a lot of arguments over those statues
Aug 14th 2017
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           right
Aug 14th 2017
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           if we erase history we are doomed to repeat it!!!
Aug 14th 2017
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                yeah, so let's honor and celebrate it instead
Aug 14th 2017
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                     if Americans were one people it would be easy to just accept them
Aug 14th 2017
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           it has nothing to do with statues
Aug 14th 2017
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It's coming to NOVA. Renaming Rt 1 (Jefferson Davis Hgwy)
Aug 14th 2017
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yep
Aug 14th 2017
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when they did the Lee Jackson King day.. smh
Aug 14th 2017
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Henrico County honored Lee Jackson Day up through THIS YEAR!
Aug 14th 2017
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yeah VA got that shit errywhere lmao
Aug 14th 2017
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Man I'm looking at that highway right now, lol they aint changing shit
Aug 14th 2017
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Btw, the group in favor of preserving the statues planned a rally on 9/1...
Aug 16th 2017
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Is anyone else racial profiling as a result of this?
Aug 14th 2017
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http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.726110.1486486032!/image/804963041....
Aug 14th 2017
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weird,that started out as some hipster stuff 4-5 years ago
Aug 14th 2017
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      a lot of white hipsters tho...
Aug 14th 2017
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      fashion trickles down.
Aug 14th 2017
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here ya go, they look like this:
Aug 14th 2017
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Tom Jordan had the mayor of Charlottesville or maybe it was the Gov
Aug 14th 2017
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i hope his message to the Black churches was
Aug 14th 2017
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dude ain't trying to get his family killed
Aug 14th 2017
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just like how slave patrols started and ultimately the police
Aug 14th 2017
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shaun king and the social internets are doing a good job of...
Aug 14th 2017
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The well educated and smarter ones look like this
Aug 14th 2017
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dark attire, retro haircut for starters
Aug 14th 2017
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GoDaddy gives the daily stormer the boot
Aug 14th 2017
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This is actually happening in 2017....
Aug 14th 2017
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sounds about right to me.
Aug 14th 2017
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Welcome to America. Your 'Homeland' lol
Aug 14th 2017
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You could add "arrive heavily armed to no consequences"
Aug 14th 2017
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Yeah, but two guys died in a helicopter
Aug 14th 2017
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Yeah, it was a weird thing to congratulate himself for
Aug 14th 2017
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If this were black folks armed to the hilt...
Aug 14th 2017
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This is a great argument for gun control by the way
Aug 14th 2017
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      It's basically saying police will back off if you're heavily armed....
Aug 14th 2017
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      most police have to pay for their rifles
Aug 16th 2017
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also the police likely know some of the white protesters in all cases
Aug 14th 2017
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dont think about the double standards of it all too hard.
Aug 14th 2017
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imagine how this is going to look 50 years from now
Aug 14th 2017
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well, hold up.
Aug 14th 2017
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BLM = KKK/Neo Nazis
Aug 14th 2017
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'on all sides'
Aug 14th 2017
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      Yeah I was just about say this, it was an ad-libbed aside
Aug 14th 2017
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RVA today: pro-confederate rally and counterprotesters (link)
Sep 16th 2017
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MEAT
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1. "Racism will die off with the boomer generation !!!"
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https://twitter.com/hatewatch/status/896188125982187520

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KiloMcG
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2. "Right "
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No pun

  

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3. "It's wild how much the right fucks with the left"
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Like the left used to be the weather men and shit and now it's just vegans or antifa
Like come on bro. Bullshit white people are marching on your city with torches. Grab a bat or a trash can at the very least
These folks came with signs.

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KiloMcG
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4. "Isn't a fight what they're looking for? "
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I don't much see the point of giving them any attention at all, really.

Because if anything like that goes down they're response afterwards will be, "we were having a peaceful protest and these snowflake terrorist n-words came and got violent! See! They're as bad as we're saying!"

But shit, I don't have the answers.

  

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5. "Snowflakes one minute, violent thugs the next..lol"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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KiloMcG
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6. "All in the same sentence. Haha "
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7. "Can't ignore away racism"
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Even if those against them do not fight they are still going to say something.

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KiloMcG
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8. "Yeah I wasn't saying to ignore racism. "
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Just sayin don't give these loud mouthed nut jobs what they want.

It'd be great if the counter protestors stood there completely silent, they would completely lose their shit and go bananas.

But it'd still get spun and be the SJW's fault.

  

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9. "Silent ?"
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Like the non-violent protest from the past ? Nah

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KiloMcG
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10. "I stated above that I don't have the answers. "
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I don't really see a real productive strategy for these type of demonstrations.

And I was suggesting silence because it would probably piss them off the most. But again, I don't know how to deal with these people. They're insane. I try and stay away from insane.

  

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MEAT
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13. "RE: I stated above that I don't have the answers. "
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>And I was suggesting silence because it would probably piss
>them off the most. But again, I don't know how to deal with
>these people. They're insane. I try and stay away from insane.


Same. But when the insane come for me, I ramp it up.

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117. "This part."
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>Same. But when the insane come for me, I ramp it up.

"It's the return of the gangsta, thanks ta..."

-du

  

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11. "Not all. Most of them just want to instill fear. "
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The more they instill the larger they'll grow. Which is why you gotta check some shit.
You may not want to give them a fight. But you're either gonna fight them today or tomorrow. Don't let them get bolder.

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KiloMcG
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12. "Yeah I get it. "
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Tough call. It could get real ugly, but I get what you're saying.

  

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14. "RE: Yeah I get it. "
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>Tough call. It could get real ugly, but I get what you're
>saying.

I'm saying it will get ugly. Not could. Will. But they caused that. All it would've taken was one person throwing water balloons of flammable liquids then shit really gets real.

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34. "It's actually the opposite."
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You think these knuckleheads are saying to themselves...."Ohhh I really hope they're not any COUNTER_PROTESTS". Are you serious? The more anitfa shows up....the BIGGER the numbers 'unite the right' will get and the same thing inversely.

  

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37. "Hey white dumb Canadian man. Sit this one out. "
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Go question your sexuality or start a drug pit again. Anything but respond to me. We both have better things to do.

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42. "Is this your logic in action?"
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If I insult someone on the internet...they will become afraid and de-platform themselves.

Just announced....white nationalists cancel all future public events due to fear of counter-protests. lol

  

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44. "I don't respect you personally. You. This is about you. "
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Nothing more nothing less.

I get that your whiteness shields you from your own personal failings and never having to really internalize criticisms. But this is about you. You neither get the benefits nor the failings of the white race. You personally are a bottom of the scale loser.

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47. "^Alt-right recruitment propaganda^"
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This is why it's not just skinheads and Klansmen at these rallies and why they're growing exponentially in numbers.

  

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49. "Meh. "
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You're not gonna put your personal failings on me. You're a shitty person. And if telling you that pushes you towards radicalism then that's on you and you alone.

And personally, I couldn't care less.

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53. "I hate the fact we can't block assholes like him on this"
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site...but if I type J A N _ S it's fucking WW3.
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MEAT
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55. "I could cave his entire chest in on a 1v1"
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If he needs to team up with white supremacy to continue to feel relevant, I get it, but I'm not gonna indulge him.

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Heinz
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57. "Lol that escalated quickly"
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66. "I mean dude was like "you're why people sympathize with Nazis" summarize..."
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So fuck it. If you're so weak internally that you would rather sympathize with Nazis than take criticism, what more is there to say? Let's just skip to the end

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KiloMcG
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68. "He also called me a cuck. "
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Let's not forget that little tidbit.

  

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71. "People that have never fought imagine fights escalating to interaction"
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Like you said something about me
So I said something about you
Then you take off your watch
Then I take off my watch
then you take off your shirt and then we push
and then someone decides who's gonna punch first

Like it's this fantasy among punks that that's how things go.
I've ALWAYS been the dude that punches you when you go for your watch. You stated where you wanted this to go at that point.

Denny clearly stated who he stands with days/weeks/months ago. Everything from that point is who he is. He doesn't get treated like a new poster with any post. Fuck him.

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80. "I never said something about you."
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You consistently attack me personally. I stick to the issue and don't subscribe racial characteristics to you. You're the one resorting to that EVERYTIME because you've been taught to. Anti-white racism is sanctioned by the left. It's in our schools and it's in our media.

Go to any country in the world....and start a race campaign that targets 60% of the population. There will be a backlash in EVERY single instance.

See....there's something to take from this interaction. You think the alt-right is growing stronger because counter-protests aren't strong enough. You clearly asserted that opinion above. I think the alt-right is growing stronger because it's a backlash against post-modernist, leftist rhetoric. That's why the alt-right does not look like the orphaned skinheads of the 90's. They look like middle class white kids who are misguided in responding to the anti-white rhetoric that surrounds them.

Keep talking about 'white fragility', 'whiteness as a disease', college courses called 'eradicating whiteness'....'white people shouldn't criticize black people'......all that shit is fueling this backlash. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to anticipate the response. The fact is....we are encouraging identity politics with EVERYONE except for whites and jews. Then we act shocked when whites or jews start engaging in their own identity politics. There is a very sharp line between the contexts of advocating 'black power' and 'white power'. This is NOT a line that we should assume people will navigate in healthy ways.

BTW...it should be noted...Jews have been characterized in the past as being the canaries in the coal mine for civil unrest and racial persecution. Well....Jews are maligned by the left....the star of david banned from gay pride....Israel the great white oppressor. Except when you go to the other side....Jews are the number one target of the alt-right. Not white enough for the alt-right. White enough for the progressive left. They are the ONLY identifiable group that is attacked by BOTH sides of the extremes....and I would suggest they are in great danger as an identifiable group as this polarization continues.

  

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81. "I don't disagree "
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But i see his side too.

I mean theoretically you are right, but being batshit crazy and illogical about things can get shit done if executed properly aka look at what they are doing LOL. So theres that too.

But LOL @ MEAT playing tough guy and then admitting he's a "cuck" (LMAO) who sucker punches and is proud of it. Stop playing fake tough guy.

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84. "You know __ about who I am. "
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Don't care how many muscles you put on your body
Heinz
A person doesn't get to declare they want to fight and then slowly work themselves up until they're ready. They get punched. That's not a sucker punch and only weight room heroes that post their bulges on the gram would feel that way.
I think you're a clown personally.
I think denny is a problem. And I won't entertain his nonsense.
You joke about me being "woke" and today it's a fake tough guy.
But here's the end point. Being not black doesn't shield you from the effects of white supremacy. And Denny's personal plight of white ignorance and supremacy is one step away from radicalism. You not being black or American doesn't shield you from that.

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86. "LMAO I'm the clown but you spewing Fight Club rules."
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Live by your own motto bruh.

"I'm saying what I say about you. Fuck what you say about me."

Now you getting aggy because you're fucking pussy who sucker punches. Don't fucking sit there and try and spew fight rules you loser. Only bitches make excuses for the bitch moves they make and thats exactly what you just did. The type to sucker punch 1 guy and tell his peoples he had a brawl against 5 guys and took them all out LOL

You went to my IG and the best you could come up with. The cliche fucking reply to anyone who works out LOL Fucking nerd. Wouldnt be surprised if you were part of that secret OKP Facebook group, you would fit right in.


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82. "I'm saying what I say about you. Fuck what you say about me. "
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Couldn't care less
I ain't reading all that shit. To put it succinctly. If you post about being in dc I'm letting you know the time.

You don't get to hide behind misleading stats
You don't get to try to feign nuance
You don't even get to hide behind white people. You. Denny.
Everything I post in response to you is about you. Personally.

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88. "Thank you for responding."
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>You don't get to hide behind misleading stats

If this is true than I welcome the charge. Please show me where I need to re-evaluate.

>You don't get to try to feign nuance

I am nuance. My whole thing is nuance. I'm like superhero wallpaper.

>You don't even get to hide behind white people. You. Denny.

I can only speculate what you mean by this....I don't hide behind white people. I would welcome an explanation or example of what this allegation means.

>Everything I post in response to you is about you. Personally.

I don't know what this means.

  

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164. "White people fuel the backlash and there's plenty of proof of that "
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The attitudes of black people towards whites people of that particular nature is irrelevant

  

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166. "Maybe look into what tribes were sold in Africa and their backgrounds"
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And you may see what makes a jew is not so much about top hats, dreidels, and yamulkas

  

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77. "Do you co-sign this?"
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'I get that your whiteness shields you from your own personal failings and never having to really internalize criticisms.'

Straight up question.

  

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79. "You called me a cuck. "
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Fuck you.

This is the last thing I'll ever say to you.

  

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85. "what happened to you?"
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how did you go from somewhat sympathy-worthy recovering opiate addict to alt-right apologist? i vaguely remember you posting something about thinking of attending an alt-right gathering some months back. have you always felt like this or is this a recent development?

  

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87. "RE: what happened to you?"
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Nothing 'happened' to me.

I have never once held the opinion that my inherited whiteness shields me from my own personal transgressions and misgivings. Are you saying you used to think I held that view? And that I no longer do? lolol

  

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98. "He discovered he's a "classic liberal"."
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I.e. he reverted to the laziest of politics and thinks himself a lot wiser for it. Although him typing "anti-white racism is sanctioned by the left" makes me think he's close to drinking the alt-right milk bottle himself.

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105. "And the beat goes on."
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Fine display of nuance there backbone. My views haven't changed. Society has become much more extreme and polarized. I am a classic liberal but I attempt to approach each new emerging issue as a bi-partisan...in other words, the opposite of lazy. It's not 'lazy' to be pragmatic instead of sloganeering. It's not 'lazy' to inform yourself of different viewpoints outside of an echo chamber. It's not 'lazy' to refuse to characterize your ideological opponents with conveniently over-simplified stereotypes. It's not 'lazy' to call out sanctioned anti-semitism and anti-whiteness in your OWN side for which there are countless examples occurring EVERY SINGLE DAY. Certainly don't remember YOU doing anything like that.

Is it a coincidence that I've never seen you express anything that acknowledges a truth that makes you feel uncomfortable or might put you at odds with anyone except a redneck alt-right white supremacist? Talk about lazy.

Lest I remind you....I was the one who foresaw Trump's victory in the earliest stages of the GOP nomination process. I was the one who foresaw the rise of the alt-right and increased popularity. I was the FIRST person on this board to talk about BOTH of those things. Not lazy.

  

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115. "What is anti whiteness? Who's perpetuating it and how ?"
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How can it even exist when there is no such thing as a white person or for that matter a black red or yellow one?

  

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165. "Not really "
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15. "Same as it ever was "
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16. "BLM shouldve had a rally too...fk these clowns"
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17. "They are. In Chicago. "
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Why do they need to reflectively defend another town that doesn't represent them? The citizens of Charlottesville had a counter protest.

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18. "so? they couldve had a peaceful rally anywhere"
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or they couldve took it there...

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19. "Black people donf exist to validate white grievances. "
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Don't know what you're getting at.

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20. "Car runs into crowd (video link)"
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https://twitter.com/brennanmgilmore/status/896434516260212737

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21. "damn"
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22. "Different and more graphic video (link)"
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https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/896433618595270656

Tell me again how this needs to be met with peace and not self defense?

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23. "Holy shit "
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50. "damn."
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25. "VICE reported they were BLM protestors who were ran down"
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28. "There was a well-known alt-right figure beside the car."
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The footage above is from her cellphone. She claims that it was clearly an attack against BLM protesters and has given a report to police. Driver in custody.

  

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52. "19 injured. 1dead. "
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24. "Footage is crazy."
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I dont' think we've seen this in our lifetimes. And it's gonna get worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdo3xFpN0vg

  

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29. "RE: That asshole is wearing a helmet."
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Can't tell me he went into that not expecting a fight.


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http://austinato.bandcamp.com

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51. "the more white supremecists are emobldened the more"
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you will see an emboldened response


used to it was just the hardcore punk antifas showing up ready to rumble

now you got all kinds of people wanting to fight

then of course not everyone has the same agenda

then of course the guarantee of provocateurs


shits a mess

  

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65. "RE: 100% agreed."
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>
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>shits a mess


os·ti·na·to
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http://austinato.bandcamp.com

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30. "I just see a bunch of people who never fought before trying to fight lol..."
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That first clip a guy trying to throw hands with a woman? Geez

  

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31. "True."
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I guess would disturbs me is that if this was from 1992....we'd see a couple hundred skinheads and Kkk going to a rally like this. Now the makeup of that group is much different. They are alt-right, alt-lite, proudboys, anti-government groups, pro-isralies, pro-capitalists, etc etc etc. The umbrella is much bigger.

Societies in turmoil go in one of two directions. Nationalism or communism. And you can see that on the extreme sides of the right/left spectrum. Add in poverty, global nuclear instability, joblessness.....we're all doomed. It's like reading a chapter from a future history book 'the conditions that led to the fall of western civilization'.

I saw someone tweet 'Everyone make sure they don't assassinate an archduke for the next while ok?' We're living in a powder keg.

  

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56. "That woman is a friend of mine"
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She said she got on top of him and he started screaming "get off me" repeatedly, fucking worm.

  

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26. "pic of the collision from behind car (they got the license plate too): "
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHDXFQ0XsAU6hx0.jpg

  

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27. "ohio plates. shocker."
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32. "you know the internet tracked him down already:"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHDj7DCUQAAGI64.jpg

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/137110063/drivers-name-is-jerome

even got his email from the linkedin database lol.

  

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40. "He's in custody now "
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41. "A white Jerome?"
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Firgures.

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45. "I wouldn't trust Pol."
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I don't think his name is Jerome. There's a picture of him circulating (looks to be white) and even alt-lite supporters who were there are disavowing his actions.

  

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61. "yeah they fucked up. deleted the page now."
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54. "Hes from Detroit and his name is Joel"
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Jerome is his dad, I think Joel is a teenager https://twitter.com/sky_smith_/status/896476755137089537

  

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60. "turns out that is the wrong dude lol. his pop sold that car years ago."
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4chan took their page down.

  

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62. "weird ass coincidence? look at this list of trump contributers:"
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http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00580100/1098663/sa/ALL/48

first name and address.

but supposedly its the wrong identity?

shit getting weird.

  

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72. "Alex Fields Jr. (20)"
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/896541711903727620

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73. "Mugshot"
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https://twitter.com/SebastianMurdoc/status/896540670466416643

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74. "of course hes got that stupid hair cut lol"
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i call it the chilienial bowl

  

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75. "Smh, the haircut is ridiculous "
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33. "Quite likely to become an iconic photograph."
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Stunning

  

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145. "Pictures of black people in distress tend to do so "
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There's a time life collection of Pulitzer winning photos. Most of them are black people in distress of some type

Raven about to eat a starving African child

Black woman falling from apartment with her child

I think soiling of Old Glory is in there

and so on.

Race is still quite profitable

  

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35. "ray lewis comments on charlottesville:"
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"injustice is wrong EVERYWHERE. but before we condemn the injustice of OTHERS...we gotta look in the mirror and condemn the injustice of OURSELVES. i go into these communities...and black men are murdering other black men EVERY DAY!..."





nah im fucking around. that sounds like some shit ray lewis would say tho.

  

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36. "LMAO - that could easily be a real quote from Dr Lewis"
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38. "HA - I'll take "Shit a Hypocritical Murderer Would Say" for $1000, Alex."
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39. "You've got to be fucking kidding me "
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46. "fake news"
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48. "LOL"
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Since 1976

  

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58. "fuck Trump"
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and his many sides. This is the first time I've seen a president this openly appease white supremacists. Glad I didn't go up there.

  

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59. "Human Garbage"
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And that goes for his supporters on TV trying to defend him as well.

He looks even worse after the Gov of Virginia threw straight shots at Nazis and White Nationalists.

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63. "but then thanked george washington and thomas jefferson lol."
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>He looks even worse after the Gov of Virginia threw straight
>shots at Nazis and White Nationalists.

  

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69. "Yeah that was kinda weird, "
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But I guess he was trying to pull at the white folks on the fence who revere those individuals. I dunno.

  

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64. "my head hurts from uncontrollable eye rolling"
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Talking about the removal of a statue is an attempt to erase history....really?? tell me what you know about that in VA. We'll swap stories.

Then Melania tweets: "Our country encourages freedom of speech, but let's communicate w/o hate in our hearts. No good comes from violence."

This disembodied fool wants more welcoming hate speech.

  

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67. "the reddit "Whatabout" saturation is reaching maximum levels"
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people can rationalize literally anything as long as their ego gets what it needs

  

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70. "I don't understand going there to protest."
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This is how those people think/feel hey sucks for them.

I would be just taking pictures and putting names to all those that attended in support.

Also preparing my family especially if I lived in that area!

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78. "im with you."
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ill never understand breaking your fist against the wall in an attempt to get them to think differently about us.

the statue is coming down....so what are you protesting again?

  

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76. "I'm not gonna front.....I'm currently pro-Antifa."
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The country was founded on and molded by violence. No one has truly overcome oppression without it. I wish different, nonviolent tactics could be used to squash this growing trend of nationalism....but I seriously don't think they can be.


I'm actually surprised that the guy in the car was the only attacker. More damage actually could've been done given the tight quarters of the rally.

  

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83. "How will violent attacks on white nationalists work?"
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Give me a roadmap for that theory.

What we've seen so far....counter-protesting alt-right events has resulted in spikes and surges of alt-right membership.

Counter-protesters were throwing rocks at war vets today. This will be useful for the alt-right. They won today.

  

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90. "As opposed to running over 35 people?"
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>Give me a roadmap for that theory.
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>What we've seen so far....counter-protesting alt-right events
>has resulted in spikes and surges of alt-right membership.
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>Counter-protesters were throwing rocks at war vets today.
>This will be useful for the alt-right. They won today.

Even foxnews is going for their heads and saying conservatives have to stand up to this (tomorrow they will find a way to blame dems tho).

Ultimately he's right; US has never responded to peaceful protests; "blood and soil" indeed.

  

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91. "the fuck is wrong with you denny?"
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alt-right groups keep growing because trolling and racism are things. they keep growing because it's in line with a trend going back two generations after white people in america decided it was too hard to follow through with the consequences of the civil rights movement.

which is part of an even longer trend of the privileged failing to follow through with the dismantling of slavery or the principles of democracy and enlightenment before that.

you get tiki torches and trump because hypocrisy and hate make people stupid.

you can't fault the people trying to stand up to them...there's no smart, rational way to beat this. we all just do the best we can because it's wrong and evil and we have no choice.

and nobody won today, certainly not the alt-right.

  

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107. "RE: the fuck is wrong with you denny?"
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>alt-right groups keep growing because trolling and racism are
>things. they keep growing because it's in line with a trend
>going back two generations after white people in america
>decided it was too hard to follow through with the
>consequences of the civil rights movement.

These types of explanations do not account for why it's happening NOW. Those would have been just as good justifications if this happened in 2005. Hell....after 911 would have been a much more likely time than now with that reasoning.

>which is part of an even longer trend of the privileged
>failing to follow through with the dismantling of slavery or
>the principles of democracy and enlightenment before that.

Again....this explanation would work for this happening in the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, the 00's. Why is happening NOW is the question.

>you get tiki torches and trump because hypocrisy and hate make
>people stupid.

Also does not satisfy why this is happening NOW. Hypocrisy and hate are not new.

>you can't fault the people trying to stand up to
>them...there's no smart, rational way to beat this. we all
>just do the best we can because it's wrong and evil and we
>have no choice.

I don't fault them. I question their strategy. This is a reactionary movement. Providing them with more things to react to may be counter-productive (and has been at the campus incidents Berkely, Middlesborough, Evergreen, etc). Those instances have clearly helped the alt-right gain new sympathizers and supporters.

>and nobody won today, certainly not the alt-right.

After reading the post-mortem today....I think I agree with you now. The terrorist driver might have taken away any momentum they might have gained from this. Similar to the police shooter in Dallas in regards to BLM. It doesn't help their agendas.

My favorite tweet of the day was Sam Harris:

"In 2017, all identity politics is detestable. But surely white identity politics is the most detestable of all."

We've been saying that exact same thing at our dinner table for months. Identity politics begat more identity politics. You can take a Richard Spencer tweet and a Deray Mckeeson tweet and simply switch the words 'white' with 'black'. They are identical. And they don't deny this either. They are both clearly and demonstrably...racial identitarians. But there's no doubt that the worst possible scenario in regards to identity politics happens when members of the majority engage with them. And that's what we're seeing.

You're being incredibly vague in your explanations. It's because of hate and hypocrisy. It's because of fallout from the civil rights movement. Seriously?

IT"S BECAUSE OF THE RISE OF IDENTITY POLITICS. It began in the 90's....then shrunk....then came back with a vengeance around 2010. The same time we starting seeing all the terminology change in popular discourse. Terms like 'white fragility, white supremacy, whiteness, white privilege' didn't crossover from academia to popular discourse until around 2010 or shortly after. This is why I risk being called racist and alt-right )both ridiculous claims) on this board. The left needs to STOP investing in that rhetoric. This will get much worse if they don't. To be honest...I think the needle is already moving. Reasonable people are starting to openly question the post-modern critical theories in mainstream publications. NYTIMES is writing a couple articles per week about it. Same with Wash post and the Atlantic. And I'm sensing the younger demographic of like 15 to 20 are rolling their eyes at it. I think we've seen the worst. It's on a downward spiral now and that's good. We need to lock that shit up in acadamia so it can die from a lack of funding (which is the next inevitable step when students stop enrolling in those fields).

  

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108. "Please..."
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>IT"S BECAUSE OF THE RISE OF IDENTITY POLITICS. It began in
>the 90's....

It did not at all begin in the 90's. Neither did the so-called SJW thing or radical leftism on campuses or the type of feminism that offends you. Those things were very much present in the 60's (especially post-68) and early 70's in the western world...

  

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109. "You are factually incorrect."
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In the 60's....the radical left in America was still dividing the world up as proletariat and bourgeois and the criteria was means of production. In fact...there was a very popular notion in the 60's amongst the radical left that identity politics distracted us from seeing the 'true oppressor' in the rich. The big pivot came in the 90's....when the Pro/bougie narrative had been zapped of all credibility in light of repeated, failed communist states and the fall of the Berlin wall.

French critical theorists first started it in the late 70's. The switched the critical narrative from rich vs poor to narratives of race, gender and sexual orientation. The essential philosophy of conflict theory did NOT CHANGE. They just changed the teams that their definition of power was based on. That didn't significantly penetrate American academia until the early 90's. At which time....Michel Foucault became the single most cited source in American humanities. By the late 90's...this trend was on the decline until around 2005. By the time we get to 2010...It had literally taken over American college campuses and continues to do so now. Go back to the OKP boards in 2009. See how many references there are to 'whiteness' or 'white privilege'. There was a major shift in public discourse and it came from academia.

If you don't know anything about this....have not studied it....have not researched it....please look it up. Naima Lowe of Evergreen college is the professor most responsible for the leftist facism and anti-white racism expressed in those events. I've watched her lectures. Surprise....all her theories are based on french sociologists and philosophers from the 1970s. And this resulted in her teaching impressionable minds such things as 'Every single white person is a white supremacist'. Then we act surprised when they walk around campus with baseball bats....smashing windows and laboratory facilities because 'science is white supremacy'.

The choice is yours. Double-down in virtue signalling. Or read up.


  

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120. "I lost all interest at ''virtue signalling''..."
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Youre even using their buzzwords now...

  

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122. "RE: I lost all interest at ''virtue signalling''..."
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And LOL @ assigning so much value and importance to philosopy. Collegiate drivel most never even ponder and those who do grow out of after a while.

Meanwhile, the right are not expected to grow out of their INFINITELY more repugnant *core* viewpoints, instead, they are intensified and, at this point, embraced and even normalized.

While this allows the relative left to pat themselves on the back and say "we are better than them", it also creates an odd dynamic where certain people are allowed from within the ranks to run rampage with extreme opinions while the opposite side is supposed to sit still and behave-as far as I'm concerned, this "new" and "radical" (LOL! I'm from sweden) left is exactly the left the new right deserves, if only for sake of balance.

Of course, you don't agree with that, instead, this left is partially to blame for the right. I mean, those college-courses-SO EVIL!!! Political correctness!!! And don't even get me started on virtue-signalling!!! Schtick is sad man...

And identity-politics definitely exsisted in the 60's. Furthermore, I'm fairly sure that certain fractions of, say, black panthers (frequently co-signed by radical leftists) were infinitely more scary and "offensive" to the right than your college-lectures and yet, people on the left weren't making excuses for right-wing assholery like people are now...

  

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126. "A worthwhile watch:"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVddM1hzmvI

  

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110. "Nope. I'm going to teach Foucault in *all* my classes now"
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I've only really done the legwork to teach "The Order of Things" or "Madness and Civilization" and I don't get paid enough to chunk through that level of prep required for something I'm less familiar with when classes start in just a week. I actually prefer the relatively discrete (rare for him) handling of the topic in the latter, but I'm here to do as much damage to western civilization as possible, so the harder work of teaching the former seems worth it, no?

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104. "why is this dude still allowed to post here?"
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at worst he's a bigot

at least he's an apologist troll

  

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106. "RE: why is this dude still allowed to post here?"
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Are you crying? Grow up. Stop acting like a baby.

  

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89. "Antifa doesn't do any good"
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It just gives white supremacists especially people in positions of power leeway to label those against their mission terrorists. Violence with violence is never a good look and will lead to a real life version of DMZ. DMZ is a comic about the alt right rebeling and starting a literal war with the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMZ_(comics)#Synopsis

The democratic party is damn smart to distance themselves from antifa unlike the Republican party that embraced the alt right.

  

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92. "Laying down is not going to work"
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93. "i like that you brought up DMZ...."
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because I can definitely see the country headed in a direction like that if people don't act.

There are militias that have been bragging about getting ready to start a race war for years now. To me, there are two choices: either the Feds are going to do something about these hate groups (domestic terrorists) or people are going to have to fight back just to ensure their own preservation.

No matter what a talking head says, the bottom line is that one of those crazy nationalists purposefully murdered a protestor today. It wasn't the other way around. I can't fault mostly-white groups like Antifa and Redneck Revolt for saying enough is enough and showing some force on our behalf. Lord knows black people have been saying it long enough.
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94. "RE: Antifa doesn't do any good"
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https://psmag.com/.amp/social-justice/the-ku-klux-klan-were-memelords


Fortunately, there are some encouraging lessons from the 19th century. Though the federal government betrayed Reconstruction, the Klan's reign was short-lived. "I don't want to sound like I'm suggesting anything," Parsons says, "but speaking as a historian, violent resistance was very effective. We've told ourselves a story about the Klan facing cowering victims, but people organized, fought, and defeated the Klan constantly." Black Americans in the Reconstruction South were often armed, not just as individuals but as communities, for collective self-defense. "There were places the Klan couldn't go," Parsons says, "people who, according to their code, they should have attacked, who they didn't."

Fighting back also dispelled the air of comedy. In 1868, when costumed night-riders showed up at Bob Anderson's home in Knoxville, Tennessee, he came out shooting. The local liberal paper celebrated Anderson, writing, "We wonder now if the Conservative papers will deny that the Kuklux sneak about the country in the unhallowed business of stealing from the freedmen. A Kluklux has been killed, laid low by the bullet of a brave colored man who had courage to defend his home from the assaults of reckless villains." If history is to be our guide, ignoring or laughing at the alt-right isn't going to be good enough. We have to take these jokers seriously.

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101. "exactly....."
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we can no longer afford to be in the stage of being publicly appalled and outraged. It's time to stop acting so surprised by the uptick in white nationalist activity and to put the pressure on multiple outlets to do something RIGHT NOW.

It has to be made crystal clear to the federal government and law enforcement that hostile resistance is incoming.
Boycotts and protests are a good start but that's all they are....a good start.

We saw with the Ferguson incident that people began to get really ticked with BLM for not having a next step once the protests started. It's time to make those plans and organize so they can be executed.

I don't have the answers but I'd be willing to listen to people that have more insight.
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112. "sadly there needs to be at least a little violence."
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But it can't be the face of the movement. It can be part of it but if there are leaders they can't be out there directing it or supporting it. Nothing that appears too well organized. It should feel organic - like a 'natural' reaction to oppression.

fuck you.

  

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95. "Don't be where the enemy expects you to be "
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96. "."
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97. "Does that include"
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the clergy and press ?

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Atillah Moor
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114. "Speaking more to those who confront the white folks at these events "
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These folks are there to fight and they have the support of most if not all of the police so don't go unless you're willing to engage in violence or to have it visited on you. New methods are needed.

Clergy and the press as enemies? Sure don't be where they expect you to be either lol

  

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99. "So what exactly happened to the helicopter? This is all I can find (link..."
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One interesting thing about this, the helicopter was not the police helicopter seen circling during all of this. Did I read that right?


http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/ap-helicopter-crash-that-killed-two-is-linked-to-charlottesville/article_429c00cc-dd49-5dfd-94ab-8d43e7eeb71a.html

  

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102. "don't know"
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haven't heard much about it. such a strange string of events.

  

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116. "My guess is it ran out of fuel due to too much circling "
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Or was overloaded from the chemical and expsive agents the police were intending to drop on the black protestors

j/k

We know they would never do such a thing

  

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100. "The helicopter thing seems weird to me. "
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I remember reading something about helicopters being grounded for 24 hours due to crashes. Not sure if that was the same type of helicopter or even if it's related. Not sure why helicopters keep crashing either.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/11/politics/us-marines-ground-aircraft/index.html

... "A Beautiful Struggle"
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Musically.Entertaining.Lyrically.Alluring.

  

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103. "Protest in Richmond VA (link/swipe) "
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These protestors are in favor/demand of removing the confederate statues on Monument Avenue in the fan near VCU.

Here we go....

http://wtvr.com/2017/08/13/protesters-block-streets-near-vcu/

RICHMOND, Va. — Protesters screaming “take down the monuments” have taken to the streets in Richmond near VCU’s main campus and are headed for the city’s historic Monument Avenue.

Richmond police posted on Twitter that a protest was underway on West Broad Street.

As of 10:50 p.m. police said the demonstrators had turned onto Lombardy Avenue and were headed for Monument Avenue.

“Tear the racist statues down,” the group yelled as one person climbed up the Lee monument and appeared to try to

Roads are blocked and police urged drivers to “proceed with caution.”

WTVR CBS 6 News has a crew headed to the scene. Live video will be posted soon.




  

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111. "damn"
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113. "Apparently a "save the monuments" group has filed a request "
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To hold a rally at the Lee statue. I can't confirm that, though. This may have been in response to that.

This fight is likely coming to Richmond, but them crackas better hope real Richmond don't ride on em.

  

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118. "I used to get in a lot of arguments over those statues"
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Still don't understand how the losers get to make the rules... smh.

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121. "right"
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>Still don't understand how the losers get to make the
>rules... smh.


i don't get why the fuck anyone cares about what these losers think. take 'em all down. they're the ones that need to get over it.

  

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123. "if we erase history we are doomed to repeat it!!! "
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how the fuck is taking down a statue erasing history

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125. "yeah, so let's honor and celebrate it instead"
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that'll make sure it never happens again!

foh, clinging to your loser ass ideals. be gone. go cry.

  

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140. "if Americans were one people it would be easy to just accept them"
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as American history. For example the Germans aren't trying to erase their Nazi history

  

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136. "it has nothing to do with statues "
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nm

  

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128. "It's coming to NOVA. Renaming Rt 1 (Jefferson Davis Hgwy)"
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in Arlington.
Also talks of renaming Lee Hwy (Rt29)....

VA got a LOOOOOoooong road ahead to remove all this shit.. A looooooong road.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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130. "yep"
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>VA got a LOOOOOoooong road ahead to remove all this shit.. A
>looooooong road.


and here i am right in the good ol' capital of the confederacy.

  

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131. "when they did the Lee Jackson King day.. smh"
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133. "Henrico County honored Lee Jackson Day up through THIS YEAR!"
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my wife works for the county so she'd get a 4 day weekend. made me so fucking mad.

they did recently announce that they would no longer be honoring that day. but seriously, wtf.

  

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138. "yeah VA got that shit errywhere lmao"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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148. "Man I'm looking at that highway right now, lol they aint changing shit "
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167. "Btw, the group in favor of preserving the statues planned a rally on 9/1..."
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But have since pulled their permit request.

They don't want none. This ain't Charlottesville.

  

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119. "Is anyone else racial profiling as a result of this?"
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What's the white supremacist starter kit so I can ID these stains a mile away? What do they wear?

I already called the cops on three suspicious white men for being suspicious and doing suspicious things. I could get used to this calling the cops on white men thing. 9/11ing a dude for having that alt right haircut wearing that Donald Trump outfit is a great way to start your morning.

  

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124. "http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.726110.1486486032!/image/804963041...."
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http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.726110.1486486032!/image/804963041.jpg_gen/derivatives/headline_720x405/804963041.jpg

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127. "weird,that started out as some hipster stuff 4-5 years ago"
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https://soundcloud.com/swageyph/yph-die-with-me

  

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132. "a lot of white hipsters tho... "
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just sayin

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139. "fashion trickles down."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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129. "here ya go, they look like this:"
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http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/charlottesville-protests-rt-jt-170812_4x3_992.jpg


Bob from accounting, Jim from the mailroom, Steve that lives down the street, Harold from the gas station....

  

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134. "Tom Jordan had the mayor of Charlottesville or maybe it was the Gov"
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on this morning. They asked him if he planned on going to white churches to condemn and he walked that tight rope.

He went to some Black churches on Sunday but why? We aren't the problem. Go talk to THEM.

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143. "i hope his message to the Black churches was"
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don't just sit back and let this shit happen. ACTIVELY FIGHT IT!

i really hope it wasn't a message of let's try to be understanding of their views etc.

  

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150. "dude ain't trying to get his family killed "
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135. "just like how slave patrols started and ultimately the police "
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John Smith the baker, George Montgomery the judge, Custis Gardner the inn keeper, etc..

some things never change

  

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142. "shaun king and the social internets are doing a good job of..."
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putting these guys on blast.

publishing names and errthang.

  

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141. "The well educated and smarter ones look like this "
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http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170505085932-01-trump-white-men-health-0504-exlarge-169.jpg

  

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152. "dark attire, retro haircut for starters"
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lol

  

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137. "GoDaddy gives the daily stormer the boot"
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White supremacist site the Daily Stormer needs to find another domain provider after getting the boot from GoDaddy. In a tweet, the company said “We informed The Daily Stormer that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another provider, as they have violated our terms of service.”

*nods at tech bros*

  

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144. "This is actually happening in 2017...."
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/12/06/432E865800000578-4783914-Hundreds_of_white_nationalists_marched_through_the_University_of-m-50_1502515436869.jpg

It didn't hit me until I deep dove into the coverage.

Let me get this straight:

Black people protest in Ferguson
Police bring out tanks, armed to the teeth
Use rubber bullets
Use mace
Attack protestors

White supremacists cause a riot
Commit violence in front of the cops
Cops stand by and don't do shit
No rubber bullets
No mace
No tanks
No Call of Duty guns
Cops actually protect the white supremacists
Innocent woman dies and the POTUS refuses to condemn white supremacists

Can someone tell me if I have the facts right?

  

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146. "sounds about right to me."
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147. "Welcome to America. Your 'Homeland' lol"
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149. "You could add "arrive heavily armed to no consequences""
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>Can someone tell me if I have the facts right?

Here's McAuliffe trying to excuse police inaction:

“It’s easy to criticize, but I can tell you this, 80% of the people here had semiautomatic weapons," McAuliffe said.

“You saw the militia walking down the street, you would have thought they were an army ... I was just talking to the State Police upstairs; had better equipment than our State Police had,” McAuliffe said. “And yet not a shot was fired, zero property damage.”

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153. "Yeah, but two guys died in a helicopter"
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and for no property damage pretty sure something had to have gotten hit when a fucking car mowed down almost 40 people.

My thing is that I GET IT. You guys are white supremacists too, lol. Hate the game, not the player, LOL.

But that could have easily spiraled the opposite way and while the ultimate goal for the Charlotteville police force is dead minorities and liberals, having a shootout in the middle of downtown ain't exactly good optics...you ain't gonna be able to continue in your general 'oppress em through the law!' if a racist massacre takes place.

>>Can someone tell me if I have the facts right?
>
>Here's McAuliffe trying to excuse police inaction:
>
>“It’s easy to criticize, but I can tell you this, 80% of
>the people here had semiautomatic weapons," McAuliffe said.
>
>“You saw the militia walking down the street, you would have
>thought they were an army ... I was just talking to the State
>Police upstairs; had better equipment
>than our State Police had,” McAuliffe said. “And yet not a
>shot was fired, zero property damage.”
>

  

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155. "Yeah, it was a weird thing to congratulate himself for"
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>But that could have easily spiraled the opposite way and while
>the ultimate goal for the Charlotteville police force is dead
>minorities and liberals, having a shootout in the middle of
>downtown ain't exactly good optics...you ain't gonna be able
>to continue in your general 'oppress em through the law!' if a
>racist massacre takes place.

Like "high fives to our cops for not going full Rosewood even though it means we let a Nazi militia occupy our city for an afternoon."

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156. "If this were black folks armed to the hilt..."
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>Here's McAuliffe trying to excuse police inaction:
>
>“It’s easy to criticize, but I can tell you this, 80% of
>the people here had semiautomatic weapons," McAuliffe said.
>
>“You saw the militia walking down the street, you would have
>thought they were an army ... I was just talking to the State
>Police upstairs; had better equipment
>than our State Police had,”

_______________________________________

  

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157. "This is a great argument for gun control by the way"
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>>Can someone tell me if I have the facts right?
>
>Here's McAuliffe trying to excuse police inaction:
>
>“It’s easy to criticize, but I can tell you this, 80% of
>the people here had semiautomatic weapons," McAuliffe said.
>
>“You saw the militia walking down the street, you would have
>thought they were an army ... I was just talking to the State
>Police upstairs; had better equipment
>than our State Police had,” McAuliffe said. “And yet not a
>shot was fired, zero property damage.”
>

I don't buy his argument of the militias are armed better when cops have weapon surpluses from 9/11. Police should've enforced order for everyone. When those white supremacists started attacking people police should've stepped in to protect the protestors. Instead they chilling watching the show.

  

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158. "It's basically saying police will back off if you're heavily armed...."
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and white

See also the Nevada ranch standoff. I mean, cmon: https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2014/04/18/bundysniper.jpg

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168. "most police have to pay for their rifles"
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i believe the handgun is dept issue and maybe even the shot gun

but im pretty sure most of the time they have to buy their own rifle which would explain why theres a big difference

  

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151. "also the police likely know some of the white protesters in all cases "
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I mean I don't think you're really asking "why they don't respond the same?"

but yeah white supremacy connects white people whether they (admittedly) like it or not

  

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154. "dont think about the double standards of it all too hard. "
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the system is working how it's supposed to

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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159. "imagine how this is going to look 50 years from now"
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161. "well, hold up."
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1. Black folks protested in Ferguson, Missouri.

2 yrs ago.

protestors were unorganized groups and there was no counter-protest.

local police (and Natl Guard) had armed/militaristic response.

-->uproar ensued. complaints came from the streets all the way to the White House.

2. (Neo-)Nazis protested in Charlottesville, Virginia.

protestors were organized groups. counter-protest was a mix of organized and unorganized groups.

local police responded w/(relatively slight) show of force. no military response.

...

of course, fuck tha police. on the real for real i'm not at all cool w/the way they handled either of these cases.

however, i see an argument for the handling of the 2nd case - governor (dem) didn't order Natl Guard and (may have even) discouraged more armament in police response in part b/c of (reasonable) criticism of the handling of Ferguson protest.

of course, Ferguson protest was different b/c those folks weren't known to be armed themselves. meaning, the protestors weren't making it known they'd be showing up w/guns and shit (though Missouri is a concealed-carry state). Charlottesville protestors had made it known - they were coming w/guns. militia groups were involved here. governor knew this. police knew this. i don't know if that factored in the decision making but it seems to have been a factor. as in - 'let's not show military strength here b/c these folks may take that as a reason to shoot'.

fuck tha police. but in both situations i believe police want to show force trying to encourage the crowd NOT to be violent. so w/Ferguson it's 'Don't start none, won't be none. We have more guns/bullets than you. Stand down.' and w/Charlottesville it's 'We're not here to start anything. Look - we're not even out here w/our shit all out. Just be cool.'

but shit, i don't really know. i see the original point being made it could very well be that. that's the trouble w/cases like this.

so anyway, fuck all that. i do think the police allowed the situation in Charlottesville to go on for WAY too long. and i dunno why the request to move the protest out of the central biz district and to a larger park w/more space was denied. seems like moving it out there might've calmed things? but anyway, allowing the groups to be so close that at least one group threw tear gas @ the other is fucking nuts. usually when i've seen protest and counter-protest the counter protestors are allowed but kept to a certain part of the area - the point is to allow the groups to be heard but kept apart to avoid anything like what we saw in Charlottesville. who trained these police? why didn't they make more effort to keep these groups apart? surely there was a reason to anticipate violence - militia groups + open carry laws = expect somebody to be violent.

fuck you.

  

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160. "BLM = KKK/Neo Nazis"
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aka: What about Obama

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162. "'on all sides'"
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'it didn't start w/Donald Trump or Barack Obama'

...i was just like LORD HAVE MERCY.

that dude had it easy - all he had to do was read the prepared statement and he could've gotten out w/o much drama. it was vague enough and i'm sure it was written after it was clear he wasn't going to denounce the Nazis. whatever, though. if he had just read the statement there wouldn't be as much fire behind the criticism about his refusal to denounce Nazis.

and i'm assuming the written statement didn't have the 'on all sides' shit in there. b/c...i just want to assume someone in the communications office is savvy enough NOT to write that down. i assume Donald adlibbed that b/c he couldn't help himself b/c he's a fucking racist piece of shit. i wouldn't be surprised if he wanted that language and the comm office refused to add it so he put it in or if he just adlibbed it for the first time when he read it. either way, until someone leaks it i'm going to believe Donnie threw that in on his own. b/c he's a piece of shit.

fuck you.

  

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163. "Yeah I was just about say this, it was an ad-libbed aside"
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He's about to make a statement now. They say there are 4 teleprompters there lol
>
>and i'm assuming the written statement didn't have the 'on all
>sides' shit in there. b/c...i just want to assume someone in
>the communications office is savvy enough NOT to write that
>down. i assume Donald adlibbed that b/c he couldn't help
>himself b/c he's a fucking racist piece of shit. i wouldn't
>be surprised if he wanted that language and the comm office
>refused to add it so he put it in or if he just adlibbed it
>for the first time when he read it. either way, until someone
>leaks it i'm going to believe Donnie threw that in on his own.
> b/c he's a piece of shit.

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169. "RVA today: pro-confederate rally and counterprotesters (link)"
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not too much incident to report, organizers got their truck tires slashed and one woman counter-protesting was detained. don't think it was much more than that, though. definitely on a much smaller scale than Charlottesville. seems like there were far more counter-protesters present than there were confederate supporters. and the police were ready for whatever.

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/live-coverage-woman-detained-by-police-tow-truck-shows-up/article_34eb5282-25f0-5a0d-b9f4-4e1ffaeb024a.html

  

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