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"Judge Promises Reduced Jail Time If Inmates Get Vasectomies"
Thu Jul-27-17 08:53 AM by Boogie Stimuli

          

White folks and eugenics/dysgenics by reducing
the Black population... it never stops.

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Judge Promises Reduced Jail Time If Tennessee Inmates Get Vasectomies

July 21, 20175:56 PM ET
COLIN DWYER

As general sessions judge for White County, Tenn., Sam Benningfield says the vast majority of cases he hears are drug-related offenses. The opioid epidemic has hit the state especially hard — resulting in more than 1,400 drug overdose deaths there in 2015 alone, according to the CDC — and he felt that an unusual solution would be necessary to drive home the dangers of illegal drugs for would-be parents.

So in May, Benningfield issued a standing order: If inmates at the White County Jail undergo a form of long-term contraception for free — a vasectomy for men or a Nexplanon implant for women — they can shave 30 days off their sentences.

"I'm trying to help these folks begin to think about taking responsibility for their life and giving them a leg up — you know, when they get out of jail — to perhaps rehabilitate themselves and not be burdened again with unwanted children and all that comes with that," Benningfield tells CBS News.

Others have not seen his order in the same light. After a local News Channel 5 report earlier this week, the order earned national headlines — and significant criticism, both in the county and beyond state lines.

Hedy Weinberg, executive director of the state American Civil Liberties Union, condemned the offer as "unconstitutional" in a statement:

"Offering a so-called 'choice' between jail time and coerced contraception or sterilization is unconstitutional. Such a choice violates the fundamental constitutional right to reproductive autonomy and bodily integrity by interfering with the intimate decision of whether and when to have a child, imposing an intrusive medical procedure on individuals who are not in a position to reject it. Judges play an important role in our community — overseeing individuals' childbearing capacity should not be part of that role."
The decisions surrounding long-term contraception "are personal in nature," Bryant Dunaway, the district attorney general for the county, told News Channel 5, "and I think that's just something the court system should not encourage or mandate."

But Benningfield, who is also offering two days credit to any inmate who attends a state-run education program on neonatal abstinence syndrome, tells CBS that this order "is not forced on them."

"It seemed to me almost a no-brainer," he says. "Offer these women a chance to think about what they're doing and try to rehabilitate their life."

Citing the White County Sheriff's Department, CBS reports that at least 24 women have already had the procedure, a toothpick-sized implant that prevents pregnancy for up to three years, and 38 men have signed up to undergo a vasectomy.

It is not the first controversial attempt in Tennessee to tackle the dangerous combination of pregnancy and illegal drugs. For roughly two years, state lawmakers criminalized drug use by pregnant women under legislation known as the "fetal assault" law. But lawmakers let the measure expire last year after finding it often dissuaded addicted women from seeking prenatal care for fear they would be jailed.

As for Benningfield's standing order, the Tennessee Department of Health says it objects to the program.

"We do not support any policy that could compel incarcerated individuals to seek any particular health services," department spokeswoman Shelley Walker said in a statement to Reuters on Friday.

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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/21/538598008/judge-promises-reduced-jail-time-if-tennessee-inmates-get-vasectomies

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Black population control masquerading as Black population control
Jul 27th 2017
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White County Jail?
Jul 27th 2017
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i saw this shit the other day and immediately thought of you.
Jul 27th 2017
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I know this gonna get twisted but, isn't the opioid epidemic hitting
Jul 27th 2017
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Opiod epidemic is hitting all over the US
Jul 27th 2017
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2 white kids asked me for Heroin on South Street in 2005
Jul 27th 2017
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      lolol
Jul 27th 2017
13
rural? man, this shit is hitting the burbs
Jul 27th 2017
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yeah i'd say burbs over rural.
Jul 27th 2017
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yeah, that's what I meant...burbs... brain fart this morning.
Jul 27th 2017
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To be fair, this case is likely mostly white people...
Jul 27th 2017
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nah @ 70s-90s....it died in the 80s...came back late 90s to date
Jul 27th 2017
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      true...i guess crack isn't an opioid... but still
Jul 27th 2017
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I asked a variation of this question before. If a local government
Jul 27th 2017
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no, teen pregnancy is down 37% over the last 20 years
Jul 27th 2017
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basically.
Jul 27th 2017
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don't need to....i grew up directly in the peak of teen pregnancy
Jul 27th 2017
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Incentive-Based Eugenics: https://youtu.be/xoMZW4EbKRw?t=1m44s
Jul 27th 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-9jtRx5iGk#t=3m1s
Jul 27th 2017
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Atillah Moor
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1. "Black population control masquerading as Black population control "
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legsdiamond
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2. "White County Jail? "
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30 whole days shaved off?

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KiloMcG
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3. "i saw this shit the other day and immediately thought of you."
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i forgot to make a post about it. yeah, this is some bullshit. shit is wild.

  

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4. "I know this gonna get twisted but, isn't the opioid epidemic hitting "
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the white populace in these rural areas much harder?
I know part of the dialogue these days is how when it was hitting the Black populace so hard in the 70's - 90's nobody cared, but now that it's hitting the white populace folks are ready to call it an epidemic and do something about it.



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5. "Opiod epidemic is hitting all over the US"
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It's hitting hard here, and like 95% seem to be young white people. Look up the Kensington neighborhood of Philly for an example.

  

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legsdiamond
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9. "2 white kids asked me for Heroin on South Street in 2005"
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I was salty as shit. The fuck made me look like I knew where to get heroin?

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13. "lolol"
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outside of Lorenzo and Sons???

  

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legsdiamond
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8. "rural? man, this shit is hitting the burbs"
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nice burbs too

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11. "yeah i'd say burbs over rural."
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they still smokin' meth in the country. the pill poppin' is happening in the affluent areas.

  

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14. "yeah, that's what I meant...burbs... brain fart this morning."
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Boogie Stimuli
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12. "To be fair, this case is likely mostly white people..."
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I just think this is will become standard practice
for Black people if it's deemed acceptable.

White people are 95% of the White County population.
Black people are 1%.
The article says there were 1,400 drug overdose
deaths there in 2015. The current Black population
is only 459, so this is a case of white panic.
At the same time, statistics show that we always
represent a much larger percentage of drug-related
arrests than our actual user or possession rates,
so I can't say I'm not worried for the Black people
living there whether they're doing anything or not.
I could be wrong, and this could be a "save white
people" initiative tho. Still, I'm skeptical.


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16. "nah @ 70s-90s....it died in the 80s...came back late 90s to date"
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a WHOLE lotta money in dope

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19. "true...i guess crack isn't an opioid... but still "
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6. "I asked a variation of this question before. If a local government"
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paid young single mothers to be on contraceptives to reduce teen pregnancy, would you be down for that?



>White folks and eugenics/dysgenics by reducing
>the Black population... it never stops.
>
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>Judge Promises Reduced Jail Time If Tennessee Inmates Get
>Vasectomies
>
>July 21, 20175:56 PM ET
>COLIN DWYER
>
>As general sessions judge for White County, Tenn., Sam
>Benningfield says the vast majority of cases he hears are
>drug-related offenses. The opioid epidemic has hit the state
>especially hard — resulting in more than 1,400 drug overdose
>deaths there in 2015 alone, according to the CDC — and he
>felt that an unusual solution would be necessary to drive home
>the dangers of illegal drugs for would-be parents.
>
>So in May, Benningfield issued a standing order: If inmates at
>the White County Jail undergo a form of long-term
>contraception for free — a vasectomy for men or a Nexplanon
>implant for women — they can shave 30 days off their
>sentences.
>
>"I'm trying to help these folks begin to think about taking
>responsibility for their life and giving them a leg up — you
>know, when they get out of jail — to perhaps rehabilitate
>themselves and not be burdened again with unwanted children
>and all that comes with that," Benningfield tells CBS News.
>
>Others have not seen his order in the same light. After a
>local News Channel 5 report earlier this week, the order
>earned national headlines — and significant criticism, both
>in the county and beyond state lines.
>
>Hedy Weinberg, executive director of the state American Civil
>Liberties Union, condemned the offer as "unconstitutional" in
>a statement:
>
>"Offering a so-called 'choice' between jail time and coerced
>contraception or sterilization is unconstitutional. Such a
>choice violates the fundamental constitutional right to
>reproductive autonomy and bodily integrity by interfering with
>the intimate decision of whether and when to have a child,
>imposing an intrusive medical procedure on individuals who are
>not in a position to reject it. Judges play an important role
>in our community — overseeing individuals' childbearing
>capacity should not be part of that role."
>The decisions surrounding long-term contraception "are
>personal in nature," Bryant Dunaway, the district attorney
>general for the county, told News Channel 5, "and I think
>that's just something the court system should not encourage or
>mandate."
>
>But Benningfield, who is also offering two days credit to any
>inmate who attends a state-run education program on neonatal
>abstinence syndrome, tells CBS that this order "is not forced
>on them."
>
>"It seemed to me almost a no-brainer," he says. "Offer these
>women a chance to think about what they're doing and try to
>rehabilitate their life."
>
>Citing the White County Sheriff's Department, CBS reports that
>at least 24 women have already had the procedure, a
>toothpick-sized implant that prevents pregnancy for up to
>three years, and 38 men have signed up to undergo a
>vasectomy.
>
>It is not the first controversial attempt in Tennessee to
>tackle the dangerous combination of pregnancy and illegal
>drugs. For roughly two years, state lawmakers criminalized
>drug use by pregnant women under legislation known as the
>"fetal assault" law. But lawmakers let the measure expire last
>year after finding it often dissuaded addicted women from
>seeking prenatal care for fear they would be jailed.
>
>As for Benningfield's standing order, the Tennessee Department
>of Health says it objects to the program.
>
>"We do not support any policy that could compel incarcerated
>individuals to seek any particular health services,"
>department spokeswoman Shelley Walker said in a statement to
>Reuters on Friday.
>
>*edited to add the link*
>http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/21/538598008/judge-promises-reduced-jail-time-if-tennessee-inmates-get-vasectomies


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7. "no, teen pregnancy is down 37% over the last 20 years"
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you don't have to pay them.. just spend the money on educating them on safe sex.

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10. "basically."
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its not nearly the issue it was in the 80s/90s and it continues to twindle down.

not sure if STDs are down though.

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17. "don't need to....i grew up directly in the peak of teen pregnancy"
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in the #1 city of teen pregnancy...hell we had a pregnant school

education and PP worked believe it or not

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15. "Incentive-Based Eugenics: https://youtu.be/xoMZW4EbKRw?t=1m44s"
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https://youtu.be/xoMZW4EbKRw?t=1m44s

  

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18. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-9jtRx5iGk#t=3m1s"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-9jtRx5iGk#t=3m1s

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