I like the trend of black women leads on screen (Chewing Gum, Issa Rae, Mindy Kaling, Scandal). But this didn't make me laugh at all. I don't watch Daily Show so I've never heard of her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT5Q0KYqiW0


So I listened to her NPR interview and was a little annoyed with the whole, "I am a unicorn black girl because I grew up around white people and went to white schools". Sounded like she wanted to explain herself to white people. Because as a black woman, I honestly don't care.

http://www.npr.org/2017/07/25/539240567/comic-jessica-williams-on-the-daily-show-and-learning-to-never-be-average

I will listen to her podcast to get a better idea.

But overall this show seems like a black girl's experience for black girls who closely identify with white girls.

Rise & Shine
Thrive & Grind
Heart & Mind

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She is dark, curvy and represents the brown diaspora. She uses hip hop liberally to relate her jokes to a certain segment of the population.

Rise & Shine
Thrive & Grind
Heart & Mind

She is worse than Jessica.

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experiences with her by any chance? I ask because I think you were or are currently involved with comedic writing for television in the past if memory serves me right.

If I am mistaken, my apologies.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

They tell me she's cool. Seems like a lot of nigga policing in here.

*Shrug*

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I was in Bodo Norway above the Arctic circle
https://tinyurl.com/ybupd5rg

Was invited to a party and was told a friend of one of the attendees was going to be there and she was black which I found intriguing because as you can imagine very very few black people up that way. So few you would rarely see one in passing on any given day.

I get to the party, meet the young lady, and am really surprised that she's Indian. I say to my girlfriend at the time -- I thought you said she was black. She says "she is".

Take it or leave it

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Fact check it if you feel so inclined

Australians are the same or similar

How can I fact check that info? Not that I would but how?

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and you're asking how to verify something?

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if I had doubted them I wouldn't have posted. So it's for the doubters in this case

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and Asian, Muslim, and other immigrants refer to themselves as Black as well in parts of the UK, precisely because of the type of racism and xenophobia they face.


Gilroy touches on this in his book the Black Atlantic

yet Mindy is the worst choice cause she don't wanna be looked at as Brown or other.

Shes angling for a different thing

which I get

but, the problem is that her whole presentation is based on the white perspective of "normal"

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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

I have no idea if it will be good or not


there's a longer trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEkYAzSpHnA

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

comment section is terrible too.

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Of course the character got a septum piercing. Of course.

"I was always told that I acted too white. I was always told that I was going to date a white guy — which, in fairness, was true: I do have a white boyfriend. So they weren't entirely wrong, but all of those things were really damaging."

LMAO wow

- And she was like, "You tell me. Would an average black kid have that? Would one of your little cousins have that?" And she's pointing to my computer, and I don't say anything. She's like, "No!" She points to my phone, and she's like, "Would an average black kid have that?" She's like, "No!" She points to my TV, "Would an average black kid have that? No!" Points to my Harry Potter books, "Would an average black kid have that?" I was like, "Uhhh, no?" She was like, "No!"

Ummmm...plenty of black kids have computers and tv and Harry Potter books. This reeks of "we aint like them niggers over there".

No mention of the father, was he not in her life? If so that explains a lot.

Classic "i don't rock with black folk cuz they called me an oreo in 5th grade and now i desperately look for validation from white folks who only fuck with me because i'm essentially a dark skinned version of them". 15 years ago she'd have an OKP handle.

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stop making excuses and just say you love white people and white things and call it a day.

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becoming it's own genre now.
Yeah, I'm good on this

"I didn't grow up around Black people" so this is why I act this way.

FOH

but I will say it's a great way to get white people to sign off on your project...lol.

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Insecure - still black as fuck though and its based on the original idea that the highest sin a black person can commit is being awkward while black.

Key and Peele - is based on the idea that they are both mixed race and I forget the quote but its something like "the inner dialog of a black man acting like a white man acting like a black man"

Trevor Noah - is south african and black as fuck in his own culturally specific way

Kamau Bell - is black as fuck and makes it a whole point to call out racial injustice.....but his wife is...well, counter to what his message is.

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all of the above are not apart of our community, or are suburbanites.

Immigrants and suburban kids who don't really relate to black American culture @ all

and specific to the Blackness of Inglewood, Ladera, and Baldwin Hills

just say you don't like it and move on.

the others I agree.

>Insecure - still black as fuck though and its based on the
>original idea that the highest sin a black person can commit
>is being awkward while black.

Yup
>
>Key and Peele - is based on the idea that they are both mixed
>race and I forget the quote but its something like "the inner
>dialog of a black man acting like a white man acting like a
>black man"

Still catered moreso to white folk and both are prolly married to white folk
>
>Trevor Noah - is south african and black as fuck in his own
>culturally specific way

You sure about that? I don't know... but I doubt people in SA are like "Noah is Black as fuck"
>
>Kamau Bell - is black as fuck and makes it a whole point to
>call out racial injustice.....but his wife is...well, counter
>to what his message is.

I never got that impression from him. Visually he is Black as fuck but I can't call it.

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the others uhm... Trevor literally did not grow up in America and is part of a mediocre spoof politics show

I fuck with Kamu's podcast with Hari, but yeah he fits, as do Key & Peele

and need for white validation in any way it can.

Especially knowing that entertainment influences
Black people more than any other race (according
to Nielsen), they're going full speed ahead with
this whitening agenda. Blanqueamiento has been
getting some very HEAVY promotion from hollywood
in recent years... quite possibly their most
important tool of social control yet.

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before the whole afropunk thing really started to pop off ,I remember knowing lots of black kids and also being a black kid who was between the world of being a weirdo and black and not being able to bring the two together

I went to afropunk last year and got mad as fuck because I'm in a different place in my life and I wished something like this was happening when I was in high school or undergrad

now black and weird live in harmony. you can be black as fuck and into whatever now. At this point you have to damn near walk down the block in a literal space suit holding a cake with sparklers in it for folks in the hood to look at you strange.


like, whats the excuse at this point?

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Not dating Black and weird? If so, I agree...

When people say they can't find folks with the same interest but they always find them with other races i side eye.

Usually these folks go to some event that doesn't have a lot of Black folk but if there is a few other Black folk they usually avoid them, don't make eye contact or have a "don't speak" look.

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also meaning "whats your excuse for not embracing your blackness?" I was trying to say that you have to pretty much go way out of your way to not even claim any parts of it

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All of the goddamn world read it lmao.

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had a mixed girl who kept saying people thought she was white when she was downtown with her Black boyfriend.

I was like "bish, they were clowning you"

you ain't even that light to being with. stfu

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but Black girls who like white dudes will dig it so it should do okay.

The title is terrible too.

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>So I listened to her NPR interview and was a little annoyed
>with the whole, "I am a unicorn black girl because I grew up
>around white people and went to white schools". Sounded like
>she wanted to explain herself to white people. Because as a
>black woman, I honestly don't care.

I get the angle of the black person raised around white people and their whole world view is shaped by it. May not like em, may volunteer em to be first on the wall when the revolution starts, but we all have acquaintances/family members on that juice. Some of us may have tried in vain to fuck some of em in high school (*sheepishly raises hand*)

But she is different.

She did a great job on the Daily Show as the 'black' representative and it initially made me a fan but after hearing her podcast and following her career I realized her blackness was due to the writers (probably white writers too imagine that shit )

She's just not as woke as she thinks she is. Someone mentioned Mindy Kaling and that's on the nose...the thing is that Mindy doesn't really talk on race issues and doesn't portray herself as a solid representative of brown in the world.

Jessica does.

So I will listen to her podcast go on about white people on some I took an online course on African-American History 101 course...but then fawn over white guys and girls on some very frivolous 'wouldn't it be nice to date/live like them?"

And it's not about her dating preferences; we've more then chuckled on the boards about woke motherfuckers that stay in the swirl.

It's the fact her blackness is a fashion. Black blogs love to go after the Kardashians for jacking blackness but imho she's as egregious. Like I saw this pic in a nytimes profile this weekend and choked.

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/07/23/arts/23JESSICA-JAMES1/23JESSICA-JAMES1-superJumbo.jpg

The natural hair, the nose ring, the shot under the bodega, the blurred out urban background. I ain't never seen someone that unwoke look that woke, LOL. She went full Solange with the septum piercing on top.

She's found a way to get paid being the safe black girl; the one that will check off all the vague liberal checkboxes (anti police brutality, pro-equality in pay)...but compared to her new media contemparies she's woefully vanilla.

The anger you get from The Read podcast, the 'we laugh to keep from crying' in Desus and Mero, her former Daily show contemporary Hasan Minaj's absolutely scorching Netflix comedy special on growing up in America muslim...she's just the modern day Sammy Davis Jr where she's forced to deal with race because of the time but at the end of the day couldn't be bothered.

Taking all that HS shit and drag it with you to adulthood? Nah.. not buying it. Seems like most of these types use it as an excuse like they caught a disease and can't be cured.

All that negative shit from Black folk from their childhood? They shed that shit with the quickness.

I despise when these types blame Black folk for their whiteness. "people teased me" said I would "date white"

yeah, so instead of being a normal person and taking the teasing with a grain of salt you ran out and followed the timeline they teased you with?

ok.

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you will get your education in 'blackness' quick...looking for that apartment, dealing with white (and black) co-workers, dating. It's alot easier to stay in that bubble in suburbia USA, and not that difficult in college depending on where you go/who you hang with.

All I can think of is since she's had such great success so early on she never had to deal with that shit. She was on the Daily show when she was 22, she's only 27 now. Problem is you can only be the patron saint of black hipster girls for so long; when you're in your 30's and hollywood is telling you like you washed up cause you have a vagina and they can't throw you in as a love interest with Jared Leto cause you too dark....*shrug*

>Taking all that HS shit and drag it with you to adulthood?
>Nah.. not buying it. Seems like most of these types use it as
>an excuse like they caught a disease and can't be cured.
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>All that negative shit from Black folk from their childhood?
>They shed that shit with the quickness.
>
>I despise when these types blame Black folk for their
>whiteness. "people teased me" said I would "date white"
>
>yeah, so instead of being a normal person and taking the
>teasing with a grain of salt you ran out and followed the
>timeline they teased you with?
>
>ok.

I mean, unless you have a strong ass bubble and play dumb you are going to be reminded of your black skin at every turn.

White folks do a great job reminding Black folk they aren't white.

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Gross asked James about her relative early success, and James shot back claiming that she's dealt with plenty of rejection throughout her young life. She then transitioned that comment into how she had feelings of nonacceptance and insecurity among her Black peers.

Perhaps she'll age into her Negritude.

the suburb I grew up in, the second half of my life, was Latinx, Black, and white... and for the most part working class, which after the recession hit became working poor

she seems like she comes from an environment where she was the only black kid around white people who had access and privilege (community, school, and work)...

that shit can/could/would fuck some one up in many ways, and into adulthood.

but I wonder why she (and other like her), choose to blame Black people for her worldview and not whites. it's the oddest thing about folk like her

this is exactly what I've been thinking about J Willy for sometime now

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That WNYC podcast she has is horrible, I'm offended by how popular it is.

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accept me.

Whether it's black people talking about white folks rock with them or they date only white people or white people making their whole persona about rocking with black people. That shit is corny.

I remember watching Jessica's podcast partner do a set and 75% of that was about dating white dudes. Shits weird and lame.

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>>So I listened to her NPR interview and was a little annoyed
>>with the whole, "I am a unicorn black girl because I grew up
>>around white people and went to white schools". Sounded like
>>she wanted to explain herself to white people. Because as a
>>black woman, I honestly don't care.
>
>I get the angle of the black person raised around white people
>and their whole world view is shaped by it. May not like em,
>may volunteer em to be first on the wall when the revolution
>starts, but we all have acquaintances/family members on that
>juice. Some of us may have tried in vain to fuck some of em
>in high school (*sheepishly raises hand*)
>
>But she is different.
>
>She did a great job on the Daily Show as the 'black'
>representative and it initially made me a fan but after
>hearing her podcast and following her career I realized her
>blackness was due to the writers (probably white writers too
> imagine that shit )
>
>She's just not as woke as she thinks she is. Someone
>mentioned Mindy Kaling and that's on the nose...the thing is
>that Mindy doesn't really talk on race issues and doesn't
>portray herself as a solid representative of brown in the
>world.
>
>Jessica does.
>
>So I will listen to her podcast go on about white people on
>some I took an online course on African-American History 101
>course...but then fawn over white guys and girls on some very
>frivolous 'wouldn't it be nice to date/live like them?"
>
>And it's not about her dating preferences; we've more then
>chuckled on the boards about woke motherfuckers that stay in
>the swirl.
>
>It's the fact her blackness is a fashion. Black blogs love to
>go after the Kardashians for jacking blackness but imho she's
>as egregious. Like I saw this pic in a nytimes profile this
>weekend and choked.
>
>https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/07/23/arts/23JESSICA-JAMES1/23JESSICA-JAMES1-superJumbo.jpg
>
>The natural hair, the nose ring, the shot under the bodega,
>the blurred out urban background. I ain't never seen someone
>that unwoke look that woke, LOL. She went full Solange with
>the septum piercing on top.
>
>She's found a way to get paid being the safe black girl; the
>one that will check off all the vague liberal checkboxes (anti
>police brutality, pro-equality in pay)...but compared to her
>new media contemparies she's woefully vanilla.
>
>The anger you get from The Read podcast, the 'we laugh to keep
>from crying' in Desus and Mero, her former Daily show
>contemporary Hasan Minaj's absolutely scorching Netflix comedy
>special on growing up in America muslim...she's just the
>modern day Sammy Davis Jr where she's forced to deal with race
>because of the time but at the end of the day couldn't be
>bothered.
>
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I won't say anything explicitly negative about her. I'll watch the movie, mostly because of Keith Stanfield, but her comedy escapes me.

or some 1950's pre segregation shit.

This is overall a good move for gradually moving hollywood towards a more profitable global diverse representation. Then I read replies 18, 24, and don't feel so good about this person.

>or some 1950's pre segregation shit.
>
>This is overall a good move for gradually moving hollywood
>towards a more profitable global diverse representation. Then
>I read replies 18, 24, and don't feel so good about this
>person.

Being 'regular black' in all its shades without having to deal with a race is a way to break barriers...its why we still think Cosby ain't rape them women. I hope this movie does well too, and I might check it out (cause Chris o Dowd is a slept on comedic actor, lol).

Fast and The Furious is one of the worlds biggest franchises and breaks doors even by not having to tackle race in the movie, just for POC's to be at that level of hollywood is a good look.

The thing is that this movie is also a part of a pattern that I don't think we need in 2017

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Where everything is honky dory. You're were making a movie during the Trump campaign (possibly after he got elected), cop killings on tv weekly, but you think having a black character date a white character is freeing for race not to come up?

"And I also think it's progressive to not make a mention of race in certain stories. ... I think that there is something to having a minority or person of color or somebody who is queer or whatever just exist in a story and have it not be about that."


I don't expect her to shoehorn 'Look Who's Coming to Dinner, 2017' in a dramedy about being young and dating but at the same time its disingenuous to have those two characters from completely different racial backgrounds interact and race not be a part of it.

Like i said above the Cosby show, Fast Furious, etc...don't have to deal with race because their characters already exist in their own world not really heavily dealing with the white one which is why her queer comment rings untrue; if a queer person decided to give a CIS white male a shot at a date you bet they would cover it in the movie. In 2017 you still get sideways stares from folks on both sides from interracial dating, to not even crack a joke or make a mention to it in passing?

Fucking weird.

>Where everything is honky dory. You're were making a movie
>during the Trump campaign (possibly after he got elected), cop
>killings on tv weekly, but you think having a black character
>date a white character is freeing for race not to come up?

you killing it fam

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>>Where everything is honky dory. You're were making a movie
>>during the Trump campaign (possibly after he got elected),
>cop
>>killings on tv weekly, but you think having a black
>character
>>date a white character is freeing for race not to come up?
>
>you killing it fam

It's kinda sucks to see a neighborhood get gentrified by your own, nahmean? LOL. Clutching purses when my nerdy ass walks by because its night...getting more acknowledgement when I hit em with the 'welcome to the neighborhood!' smile from their white boyfriend then them...even though they look like they hopped out of a Solange video.

It's bizarre because when I was growing up their type wanted nothing to do with us regular negros...now its like they want the best of both worlds.

>It's bizarre because when I was growing up their type wanted
>nothing to do with us regular negros...now its like they want
>the best of both worlds.


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they just want the stuff that gleams

when I read it I thought of S2 of Master of None where race was a factor but it was a layer among several nuanced dialogs

but, then again, maybe J Willy might be taking a new black approach with this


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You nailed it here:

>when I read it I thought of S2 of Master of None where race
>was a factor but it was a layer among several nuanced dialogs
>

Aziz's comedic focus is relationships; in his standup and even when he was on Parks and Rec...i would be jarring to have him go all Indian Paul Mooney on the race jokes.

But in his TV show he's got no problem pointing out how fucked up it is Indian actors can only play stereotypes; he threw in the black female friend to cover queer and race issues, and he throws his actual parents on to show that he's Indian as fuck.

Race is an issue on the show even if he spends a season in Italy chasing after white girls. That's why I find her frustrating...hopefully she's just explaining it wrong and its more on what Aziz is doing as opposed to just ignoring race.



>when I read it I thought of S2 of Master of None where race
>was a factor but it was a layer among several nuanced dialogs
>
>but, then again, maybe J Willy might be taking a new black
>approach with this
>
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>*new black in this context being related to the horse shit
>said in recent history from folks like Raven Simone, Barkley,
>Dash and co

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Cause I'm in the camp I don't think they have any chance of making that character or that show work a second time around but I'd love to be proven wrong.


this show or movie or whatever it is primarily looks very boring and not at all incredible. I'll avoid all the race politics of it for now and just say that. doesn't matter if she's black or white the show just looks and sounds and feels boring from that trailer. bad job on them.


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played the clip and am now salty

that look huff den a mug

this post is making want to check out this show more and more just to see if it's as bad as you folks are making it out to be.

And for the record, I don't truly vibe with the 'new-blackness' that I see folks criticizing Jessica Williams for, but at the same time, I can't knock her for getting a paycheck. Pretty similar to how I felt when I read that Sage Steele was getting demoted on ESPN some months ago.

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