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BrooklynWHAT
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http://www.thefader.com/2017/07/13/soundcloud-only-funded-for-another-50-days-lay-offs-techcruch-report

On July 6, SoundCloud co-founder Alex Ljun issued a statement, announcing that 173 employees, amounting to 40 percent of the staff, had been laid-off from the Berlin-based company. “By reducing our costs and continuing our revenue growth, we’re on our path to profitability and in control of SoundCloud’s independent future,” Ljung wrote in the statement.

According to a recent TechCrunch report, Ljung's hopeful tone masked a more chaotic scene inside the company, as SoundCloud sources detailed a company-wide meeting that took place on Tuesday. During the video conference, founders Alex Ljung and Eric Wahlforss reportedly told the remaining staff that the company only had enough funding to make it to “until Q4” — or for another 50 days.

"There are a number of inaccuracies within the TechCrunch article," A spokesperson for SoundCloud said in statement to The FADER. "To clarify, SoundCloud is fully funded into the fourth quarter. We continue to be confident the changes made last week put us on our path to profitability and ensure SoundCloud’s long-term viability."

One employee, Vojta Stavik, who was scheduled to begin at SoundCloud on July 17, was informed that his job was cancelled on July 7. Stavik is now considering legal action against SoundCloud because his signed contract included four weeks notice of dismissal, according to TechCrunch.

After signing licensing deals with major labels in March, SoundCloud launched its own paid service, SoundCloud GO, but the company has neglected to released subscriber figures. In the past year, multiple companies including Spotify, Twitter, and, most recently, Google, have been rumored as potential buyers.

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It could have been the best
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FB 'should' only be interested if it was going full mobile OS
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what. the. entire. FUCK.
Jul 13th 2017
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not even audiomack?
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      looked into it...hmmm
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interesting... I lost a lot of my own music in the windows 10 upgrade
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Only time I use Soundcloud is when checking out non-famous artists
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desus & mero
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damn... i like soundcloud...
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Chance the Rapper say he working on it. O_o
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This is imeem all over again....
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man I still remember stumbling on Cool Kids' page with 3 demos on it
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tha's what i'm sayin. their value is in breaking new artists
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      Didn't Desiigner get noticed because of SoundCloud?
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kaytranada literally took off because of SoundCloud
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      yup. lots of soulection folks
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Why Soundcloud Rap Couldn’t Save Soundcloud - Spin swipe
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shite, just realized my subscription renews in 10 days too
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RE: Soundcloud got about 50 more days. Save what you love before its gon...
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"ima fix [Soundcloud]" - Chance
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RE: Soundcloud got about 50 more days. Save what you love before its gon...
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Saved (link).
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Buddy_Gilapagos
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1. "It could have been the best"
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they were well on their way of being to music what IG is to photos.

Thing is the site hasn't changed since I started using it. Also not very easy to find music.

What they really needed was to land the big music licensing deals. Seems like they haven't.

I have a friend who works there and he says it's a shit show.

Facebook acquiring them seems like a no-brainer but the more natural fit would be google.

Youtube Music is trash as an app but they do have all the licenses. Soundclouds interface and apps with googles licenses and muscle?



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4. "FB 'should' only be interested if it was going full mobile OS"
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and google would have to find some way to integrate into Google music play, which they have grown from songza into an absolute best, so I don't see the synergy, GPM has the same discovery issues SC did, beyond adding licenses to the portfolio, it pretty much a zero sum.

better for FB to take a shot, but at what end? it only becomes a piece of the larger (more risky) puzzle for them.

I actually think Pandora should take a shot at this, they could dominate the independent landscape and recoup a lot of users.

  

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2. "what. the. entire. FUCK. "
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you know how much shit I have discovered because of soundcloud?!

mixcloud is fucking horrible

and

there is nothing out there that does what soundcloud does. nothing.

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BrooklynWHAT
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5. "not even audiomack?"
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>there is nothing out there that does what soundcloud does.
>nothing.

i ask because audiomack is basically a child of soundcloud given some of the staff.

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7. "looked into it...hmmm"
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the problem is that they don't have the range of artists yet...

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3. "interesting... I lost a lot of my own music in the windows 10 upgrade"
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and haven't gotten around to downloading it back off Soundcloud.

Guess I better get on that.

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6. "Only time I use Soundcloud is when checking out non-famous artists"
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For digital music/rips, I grab everything off YouTube.

  

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8. "desus & mero"
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IG: amadu_me

http://bumps.bandcamp.com/

  

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9. "damn... i like soundcloud..."
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BrooklynWHAT
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10. "Chance the Rapper say he working on it. O_o"
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https://twitter.com/chancetherapper/status/885561915577126912

come through in the clutch chano

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11. "This is imeem all over again...."
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It's a shame someone like Puff hasn't bought Soundcloud. That site is breaking the most new artists.

Maybe Soundcloud could incorporate the tools that Bandcamp has so they could charge new artists.

  

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12. "man I still remember stumbling on Cool Kids' page with 3 demos on it"
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that page stayed bookmarked for a solid year


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13. "tha's what i'm sayin. their value is in breaking new artists "
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19. "Didn't Desiigner get noticed because of SoundCloud?"
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If I'm not mistaken, Panda was on Soundcloud before Kanye had anything to do with it.

And I want to say that the beat was on Soundcloud way before the song.

  

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15. "kaytranada literally took off because of SoundCloud "
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I remember his Janet Jackson"if" remix
Blew the fuck up and got him going

Hell most of the artists That joe Kay
And soulection highlight are SoundCloud mainstays

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16. "yup. lots of soulection folks "
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14. "Why Soundcloud Rap Couldn’t Save Soundcloud - Spin swipe"
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http://www.spin.com/2017/07/why-soundcloud-rap-couldnt-save-soundcloud/


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Why Soundcloud Rap Couldn’t Save Soundcloud

Jordan Sargent // July 14, 2017

There are two differing stories about Soundcloud currently percolating in the media. They are:

The rise of “Soundcloud rap,” which, as reported on most prominently by Jon Caramanica of the New York Times, is currently the driving creative force of the rap underground.
Soundcloud, which recently laid off hundreds of employees, may go out of business imminently due to lack of money.

It’s hard to reconcile these two facts. On the one hand, the very term “Soundcloud rap” is a complete anomaly in the history of rap music, which has traditionally been diced up into sub-genres based on things like regions (West Coast, Southern), cities (Houston, Atlanta), places (trap), sounds (boom bap, mumble), feelings (hyphy, crunk), and accessories (backpacks, shiny suits). But there has never been a meaningful sub-genre of rap named after the platform on which said rap is distributed. The phrase “mixtape rapper” has been used at times, but there was never rap named after mixtape websites— no “Datpiff rap” or “LiveMixtapes rap.” There was no Best Buy rap or Sam Goody rap.

In having its name attached to the coolest and most hyped rap music in America, Soundcloud has achieved something very elusive. In theory, this should also be very valuable, from both direct business—people going to Soundcloud to listen to Soundcloud rap—and in the sort of brand recognition and free advertisement that many companies would die for. Alas, it evidently hasn’t been: A leaked recording of a recent Soundcloud meeting indicates the company may fold in as soon as 50 days.

As Brian Feldman of New York Magazine writes, Soundcloud never quite found a business model that worked. It tried introducing ads and subscription tiers, but its appeal was always in the freedom it offered both uploaders and listeners. After the music industry effectively killed mp3 blogs and file sharing services, Soundcloud was one of the sites that emerged to fill a niche as the music internet’s Wild West—a place where people could upload demos, remixes, bootlegs, DJ sets, etc. Introducing barriers into this world in the form of intrusive audio ads and paywalls was intrinsically antithetical to Soundcloud’s appeal. Further, Soundcloud is primarily used by young people, who may have less disposable income to spend on things such as, say, a subscription to Soundcloud.

So why wasn’t a rap renaissance named after the company enough to save it? The problem with Soundcloud rap as it pertains to the health of Soundcloud as a business is simple. Once rappers who break on Soundcloud make their way into the mainstream, their music eventually gets funneled to the more popular streaming services, either because a label begins to officially release their music or because it’s the logical way to continue to grow one’s fanbase. In the process, Soundcloud rappers begin to be detached from the site which helped break them, becoming just plain ‘ol rappers. The way this manifests can be seen very clearly in the publicly available streaming data on various streaming sites.

For instance, Lil Uzi Vert and Soundcloud had such a strong symbiotic relationship that the company sent him a trophy last year for being the most followed artist on its site. This year, Uzi Vert scored the biggest hit of his career with “XO Tour Llif3,” which premiered on Soundcloud and was so immediately popular that his label quickly made it an official single. The song has been on the Billboard Hot 100 for over three months, peaking at No. 7—quite easily his most popular solo single, even making the long trek to being an omnipresent radio hit.

The success of “XO Tour Llif3″—from Soundcloud to shopping malls—should be a feather in the site’s cap, but the numbers tell a different story. On Soundcloud, the song has, of this writing, been streamed 109 million times, which feels like a staggering number until you see that it’s been streamed 257 million times on Spotify and 218 million times on YouTube, despite being on those services for less time. In the last week, “XO Tour Llif3″ has been streamed 1.7 million times on Soundcloud and 9.54 million times on Spotify. Soundcloud broke the song, but as its popularity increased, the spoils began to go to the streaming services higher up the food chain.

XXXTentacion is perhaps the preeminent Soundcloud success story, and though he so far has stayed independent by signing only a distribution deal for his music, his streaming numbers tell a similar tale as Lil Uzi Vert’s. “Look At Me!,” X’s breakthrough hit, has been streamed 86 million times on Soundcloud and 103 million times on Spotify. The most popular song on Soundcloud this week, “Molly” by the Florida rapper Lil Pump, has been streamed two million times in the last seven days and nine million times on the service in total; on Spotify, so far, it’s only been streamed about 900,000 times. But Lil Pump’s biggest hit, “Flex Like Ouu,” has been streamed 18.3 million times on Soundcloud and 20 million times on Spotify—eventually, “Molly,” too, will have more total streams on Spotify. There is a ceiling on the benefits Soundcloud derives for being the clearinghouse of new, popular rap music.

Soundcloud provided a valuable service to musicians and listeners, and something similar will invariably pop up in its wake. Like other long gone treasure troves from Napster and Kazaa to Hype Machine and Oink, it has been killed by the music industry’s highly successful consolidation of itself. Labels—from major to indie—have made it so that consumers can reasonably only listen to music online in very few places, and Soundcloud, generally speaking, was not one of those places. It also is, contrary to the motive of basically every business, a special sort of contrary tale: A company with a user base of passionate millennials that couldn’t be saved by it, anyway.

  

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17. "shite, just realized my subscription renews in 10 days too"
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I might think about pulling that... not likely to be any refunds

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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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18. "RE: Soundcloud got about 50 more days. Save what you love before its gon..."
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This is going to be the collapse of the blogosphere all over again.

  

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20. ""ima fix [Soundcloud]" - Chance"
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Soundcloud about to be the next Euro-built, black-owned streaming service?


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21. "RE: Soundcloud got about 50 more days. Save what you love before its gon..."
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incidentally, i just thought of (remembered) the hype machine (http://hypem.com/) the other day and how it used to be such a good discovery mechanism and useful resource and how streaming changed audio blogs. i know soundcloud interfaced with it, but i'm not sure about youtube and spotify. i'm glad to see it's still online because it is a neat artifact of its era, as has become soundcloud. i am totally with those of you who talked up its less mainstream side (i.e., the unsigned artists who comprise the majority of its content, at least before "go" and those annoying 30-second clips that autopopulate famous artists' profiles now for those of us without a go subscription).

i really loved exploring soundcloud in the early 2010s. i still occasionally listen and explore there and hope it gets saved. a lot of music you won't find anywhere else, probably ever, to say nothing of its unique social content. it will be a very sad day if this site disappears.

  

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https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/15/15976544/soundcloud-here-to-stay-chance-the-rapper-alex-ljung
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