And not a presidency you lived through, just who was the realest to ever do it. You fux with Reagan like that? How about JFK?

I don't know enough about US history, I have a feeling a lot of people really messed with Bill Clinton - but maybe thats been somewhat exaggerated

Who's your fav POTUS ever, and why?

From my limited overall knowledge, I say Kennedy. TDR sounded great, but I can't recall enough about him to really say since my parents weren't even alive to tell me about his legacy.

Seems like a few Black folks still like Clinton, but when Barack came, all that "first Black President" shit went out the window, especially when Billary was coming at Barack's neck. Black folks could have cared less that it was politics...we took it personal LOL.

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and stayed calm. Not perfect but a smart guy with a lot of good ideas and understanding how the world worked. An amazing general that was pretty much as anti-war as an American President can be. Approved Civil Rights Acts, signed off on Interstate Highways, NASA, and warned of the coming military-industrial complex.

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his legislation leads me to believe that he paid the most attention to the country needs as a whole moreso than other presidents, who I think were more or less pressured to perform than inspired.

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She was dope. Period.

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If not, are we counting FDR? That's the only point where it might get tricky.

That said, comparing presidents of vastly different eras is a little silly. Was James Buchanan worse than George W Bush? I don't fuckin know.

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From my lifetime (Carter-present)--Bush the first was very good. I won't dive into the guys before that--because I honestly don't know enough to judge them.

But Bush didn't come in with the best situation at all--Regan had screwed him on all the deregulation laws...the economy was in shambles, housing rates through the roof, the "war on drugs" doing nothing positive at all, crime rates in cities at record highs, operation desert shield (not storm yet) bubbling up...it was bad.

But his term, he made some responsible conservative tax cuts AND raises (when needed), he made good immigration amnesty policies, he orchestrated a surgical desert storm war (using primarily airpower) and knew not to get bogged into an endless ground war with no clear endgame (in my opinion, he's the last President we've had who truly understands how and why to conduct a war, Obama included). He worked with Dems on many issues to try and get appropriate legislation for the whole country--not just his base--in my opinion he's the last Republican to do that.

So why did he lose his re-election? Simple. The economy. (and Clinton's charisma) I've said this a million times--Presidents get too much credit and blame for the economy, which is much more influenced by business, markets and technology than policy. There is a natural ebb and flow to the economy that largely has nothing to do with the sitting President. People who love Clinton point to the great economy we had while he was President, but let's face it, the internet was coming no matter who was President--he happened to be the guy in the office. Anyway, I point to a very challenging time in the Country's history and I think Bush handled it well as you can.

For trying to warn the people about the Military Industrial Complex and influence of Secret Societies

even the oreos gonna say

Kennedy

FDR

Lincoln

in some order or another.

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It seems it is possible for someone to perceive OKP to be mostly white in one instance and somebody else say OKP is "fully Black" in another.

How strange

but that's what makes reality so "twilight zone-ish"


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and the sarcastic hipster mentality is certainly of a white mentality

but yea it's mainly black folks even if it's only their skin that is black.

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kennedy - had to be true blue abt that thang

fdr - i dig how he let eleanor do her thang

clinton - in retrospect f##k dude, but i remember his terms as prosperous & thru a nostalgic lens

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i mean, i barely made it here during his administration, but he seems like a great guy. and has been an excellent ambassador post-presidency.

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they killed Kennedy so he must have been good? It's ionno

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The New Deal and Great Society programs are vital cornerstones of American life today. Johnson wasn't perfect on Vietnam, but he also got royally fucked by Nixon on peace talks.

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for reasons you alluded to

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Two things I will say in his favor was that he was a mover and a shaker, a deal-maker. Dude would be doing official business on the shitter. Classic Texan, always working the phones and playing the game. The other thing is that while there were some important things that he did not understand, he made the effort to understand and made unpopular but correct decisions behind that newfound understanding. But he was flawed in some significant ways and yes Nam was a disaster.

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but my would-be favorite President didnt get elected, Robert "Fighting Bob" La Follette aka Bernie Sanders version.beta

sad to see his legacy of progressivism in Wisconsin torn down by people like Paul Ryan and Scott Walker

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Then Coolidge

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That was the Presidency of my childhood and my exposure to politics.

It was my understanding that his constituents thought he was a punk; a peanut farmer who wasn't tryna start no wars.

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motherfuckers committed treason over the right to own human beings
Lincoln whipped that ass so bad they still haven't got over it

Fuck a Bill Clinton, man, dude was suspect at the time and history has judged him even more poorly.

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Kennedy for his civil rights initiatives and FDR for his social programs. Eleanor Roosevelt is my favorite First Lady.

My first memories of a president and I just remember with him there being a sense that things could change. But the came Reagan. History rhymes.

But objectively

Lincoln
FDR

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Don't act like George Dubya Bush's 1.75 months after 9/11 didn't hit you in the feels. When dude came out making sure Americans knew he was gonna get the terrorists I knew the world would change forever.

The obvious answer here is Kennedy since GOAT 44 Barack Obama is off the list for this post. Kennedy was progressive and could've really changed America for the better.

Can we all agree Trump is the WOAT... 6 months in at that. I thought Reagan was bad with his Reagonomics and war on drugs but Trump is a whole other level.

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By most standards, he was a failure as president. He's not my favorite president per se (not sure if I ever gave this question that much thought), but he was a guy I certainly respect. He was by far the most outspoken high-ranking politician to wage war on slavery and institutional racism in the U.S. He ruled in favor of Cinque and the Africans aboard the Amistad which enraged the majority of Southerners and racist whites. Many have argued that the court ruling was instrumental in igniting the Anti-Slavery movement in the U.S.

Edit: This isn't about Adams, this was meant to go under the op.

Not that I care that much, but why simply respond with 'nah'?

He was definitely an agitator to slaveowners and was key leader in the anti-slavery movement which didn't have the support of many high-ranking political leaders.

No one is saying he's a hero. I just respect his efforts.

The two Adams' might be the best out of the first dozen or so.

thats my guy right there

if not him, Andrew Shepherd

them others?

not.so.much