more money tracks
better writer
and jerri curl era Cube was gangsta.
get back to me in 20 years when kendrick has as many anthems
as Cube.

also Cube back in the day didn't work with no Madonna and no Spin Doctors Kendrick done worked with taylor swift and maroon 5

i like Kendrick he is like the kawaii Leonard of rapping,however he ain't touching Ice Cube's activator era

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Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

Ice Cube was a monster

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you made this post solely because of the post in the lesson. just reply there and keep it moving.

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I'm just tired of dude getting hurt over posts and creating new posts because of his hurt feelings.

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>I'm just tired of dude getting hurt over posts and creating
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Ice cube designed a torch and lit it.

Kendrick has been passed a torch and carried it further.

I don't know....has Kendrick broken any new ground? From what I've heard....it's more like he's really, really good at things that have already been done.

If so, which one of these new cats are doing it?

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I don't listen to hip hop anymore.

I was checking out that guy Gotye recently (the 'somebody that I used to know' dude). I'm late on him....but I'd say he's breaking new ground in sampling technique and editing. His music is DENSE. I find myself asking 'exactly how many HOURS did it take for him to do this?' In the same vein...that guy Kutiman also broke alot of ground in 2009 regarding sampling technique and conceptual framework. I mention those two guys specifically just I just found this today:

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It's Gotye doing a tribute to Kutiman. In anycase....those two guys have opened up new artistic avenues imo.

In terms of rap lyrics...I have no idea. But I'm sure someone's doing it without my knowing.

Let's face it...most of us like Kendrick cause he's a bit of a throwback. Ice Cube wasn't a throwback. Kendrick's obviously better and more sophisticated if you disregard context. But that's like comparing Eddie Van Halen to Chuck Berry.

just sounds like he took sampling from hip hop and applied it to a new genre.

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Though it has played a major role in the evolution of sampling. As a genre....far more than any. There's no doubt Gotye was influenced by hip hop. But he was also influenced by Jean-Jacques Perrey, Delia Ann Derbyshire, musique concrete, jamaican dub....all of which pre-date hip hop and were sampling, looping, recontextualizing pre-existing music.

Check out his stuff. I'm not too keen on the singing and lyrics but the music is highly impressive.

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did he simply take hip hop sampling and apply it to? Some of it sounds like hip hop sampling to me...some of it does not.

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>more money tracks

what does this mean?

>better writer

highly debatable

>and jerri curl era Cube was gangsta.

so they do two different things and that makes the dude you prefer somehow "better"?


>also Cube back in the day didn't work with no Madonna and no
>Spin Doctors Kendrick done worked with taylor swift and maroon
>5

I've justified this by the pop songs making him side money that gives him the freedom to make whatever album he wants (though DAMN is his most pop friendly LP to date)

and the timeliness of his work

riots / rodney / o.j. trial

he didnt bang, but yet he still rocked the good rhymes

he damn near birthed killer mike - and jeezy

i still marvel at the fact he managed to release the music / content that he did WHEN he did

he even preceded 2pac @ bangin on the system

he really is unsung

that he doesnt make it into more top fives is nuts imo

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are you truly baffled, or is that just hyperbole? I take it you don't care much for Kendrick, which is no crime. I know several people who don't. That said, are you honestly not able to see how he could have large following?

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It's basically impossible for any rapper to check off all the checkmarks that Cube did. Hell, even you mentioning the Riots...the time that Cube was dominant was almost tailor made for him to become a legend. From the Riots, to gangbangin being at peak, to the crack era still showing effects. Kendrick's era and generation alone is way different.

Cube def has more "money" tracks, whether for radio or the club, but this is 20-25 years later, and for the kids, Kendrick has more than enough anthems for them to rock to. You ever seen how hype they get for MAAD City? Or right now with Humble? Or Alright? I am native enough to say it...Cube's never had any songs that made the entire nation get that hype. Now in L.A., with a 35, 40+ crowd, of course How to survive in South Central and No vaseline go OFFFFFF, but take them outside of L.A. or even Texas (where they love him) and the reaction won't be the same.

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than anything Kendrick has. I'm really just speaking from a club/concert high energy perspective...Cube's hits were in that laid back 90's L.A. style, vs the jump up and down type shit that Kendrick and all the new music is.

But yeah, I agree that Kendrick doesn't have nearly as many radio hits, especially not for L.A. folks

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perspective, at clubs and concerts.

"It was a good day" and several other songs Cube had were much bigger hits than what Kendrick made. But when I think "anthem" I think more so songs that artists do at shows that get the energy all the way up. "It was a good day" is actually more transcendent than a regular anthem. I said it in my first post, Cube has more "money tracks" for sure, but just that none of his songs were aimed to get folks hype, and that's just a result of what that era was about. And even then, "anthem" is subjective.

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Closest he got was "Jackin 4 Beats" and, well, "We Be Clubbin." Different era and whatnot.

As for concert anthems, I've been to a few Cube concerts in my time, and I can say from my personal experience, he had always had a few consistent cuts that always got the crowd HYPED. Like, majorly. Don't know if that's what you're referring to.

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the fact that people would still be willing to discuss this shows how great Kendrick is... Kendrick doesn't have to to be your number 1 or even in your top 5... But if you're not even discussing him in your top 10 for what he's done in his career, the quality of music and consistency, then you're just being close minded... That's my opinion...

Kendrick working with pop aritsts doesn't hurt his brand/message at all... That's like saying Malcom X doing an interview with Playboy dampened his message... Kendrick can go do a song with Taylor Swift and then perform Blacker the Berry on the Grammys...

We should appreciate this run while it's happening and he's around...

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mainly cuz of his singing and his vocal changes sort of annoy me. When he's straight rapping he can be dope as shit tho, beats are usually solid and he's one of the best out now. I prefer Lupe for current rappers but its close.

One of the biggest things I respect Kendrick for is he has not sold out for a cheap radio single the way other popular rappers from Eminem to Jay to Nas have done. Songs like Humble, Alright, etc aren't the typical cater to the white teens Club type stuff. I would be the closest but still that had a message and don't feel its in same category as a Just Lose It or You Owe Me.

Don't get me wrong I dig me some steady mobbin and I Get Around and much more

Cube fell the fuck off like yo stop making albums bad. Major sell out too can't blame him that might as well been the last element of hip hop

I'm not a big Pac fan but dude made hits and Cube was that dude.

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Cube's work with NWA and his solo albums Amerikkka's Most Wanted and Death Certificate are overrated especially with the Bomb Squad working on some of it.

These legends have not done what Kelis and Rick Ross did. Okp board saves the old heads again.

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He still nice with his. Cube has more bad albums than good ones. Cube can't even give me a verse

even lethal injection had some dope joints....after that tho?

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then again kendrick is just getting rolling. cube had a very nice run between NWA and WSC.

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>RE: i still say ice cube>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kendrick and not close
>more money tracks
>better writer
>and jerri curl era Cube was gangsta.
>get back to me in 20 years when kendrick has as many anthems
>as Cube.
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>also Cube back in the day didn't work with no Madonna and no
>Spin Doctors Kendrick done worked with taylor swift and maroon
>5
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>i like Kendrick he is like the kawaii Leonard of
>rapping,however he ain't touching Ice Cube's activator era

Cube had his time.
Kendrick is having his time.

The simplicity of our old school heroes', aside from Rakim, rhyme schemes don't even get them in the room with Kendrick.

Shorty is tough and it shouldn't be denied. The comparisons to folks from yesteryear are unnecessary and futile.

Did Cube run his era? Debatable!
Is Kendrick running his era? Debatable! (I think he's the best to have come out in the last decade.)

But old heads, let's cut it. Let the young gawd breathe and be great!

and I think the comparison has to be how well these guys rapped in their era vs the rest of their peers.

Cube had bars yo..

I think the real convo is impact.

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Kendrick doesn't have that yet.

So, it's a tough one.

The young bol spits his tail off. Cube was better than nice but wasn't exceptional in my opinion. At that time, there were others being hailed as the best.

Kendrick, IMO, has no real peer at the moment.

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instead of the rabbit hole of who's better.
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"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Plato

and I agree. we have our heros, favs, etc. let these new folks have theirs shine.

I try to not compare the eras from a skill standpoint because there's no win. while I have my favorites, I also stopped doing the top 10 thing. its all too subjective.

sometimes old heads don't allow space for the new greats. its just silly.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

>and I agree. we have our heros, favs, etc. let these new
>folks have theirs shine.
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>I try to not compare the eras from a skill standpoint because
>there's no win. while I have my favorites, I also stopped
>doing the top 10 thing. its all too subjective.
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>sometimes old heads don't allow space for the new greats. its
>just silly.
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Allowing for space is one thing but when people dismiss what the old greats accomplished that's going too far.

Kelis discography is better than Nas.

Ice Cube is overrated.

Rick Ross passed the legends.

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so I can't be made when folks say that kinda stuff. I may not agree with it, but it becomes whatever.

the convos aren't normally honest. typically, old heads aren't checking for much beyond their favs. younger folks aren't typically going back to listen. there will be some exceptions, but that's why you'll get MC Ol' Skool is overrated or MC 2014 is the greatest ever.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

have to compare eras.


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Ain't nothing new under the sun.

We've seen five or six generations of rappers come through. Well, if you've been around since the beginning.

There may be a GOAT of each generation but there can not be an overall GOAT.

That being said, I need to stop saying it and/or thinking it.

Right now, Kendrick is in a lane and groove all by himself. I dig it!

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this topic is currently being tossed around every black barbershop in the united states of anywhere.

guess y'all above kobe / jordan / lebron / magic debates too, huh

what's next - hatin' on spades? cookouts?

and errybody in this bih is an old head. newsflash

shits either hilarious - or pitiful, one

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and he's a dope emcee.

Kendrick is a dope emcee, though not clear (no defining cause). Kendrick's important to some, but he's not changing the national conversation and artform in the way Cube did.