Huffpo blames Obama for Trump

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-wall-street-speech-400k_us_5900bf16e4b0af6d718ab7b9?72&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

The rumors are true: Former President Barack Obama will receive $400,000 to speak at a health care conference organized by the Wall Street firm Cantor Fitzgerald.

It should not be a surprise. This unseemly and unnecessary cash-in fits a pattern of bad behavior involving the financial sector, one that spans Obama’s entire presidency. That governing failure convinced millions of his onetime supporters that the president and his party were not, in fact, playing for their team, and helped pave the way for President Donald Trump. Obama’s Wall Street payday will confirm for many what they have long suspected: that the Democratic Party is managed by out-of-touch elites who do not understand or care about the concerns of ordinary Americans. It’s hard to fault those who come to this conclusion.

Obama refused to prosecute the rampant fraud behind the 2008 Wall Street collapse, despite inking multibillion-dollar settlement after multibillion-dollar settlement with major firms over misconduct ranging from foreclosure fraud to rigging energy markets to tax evasion. In some cases, big banks even pleaded guilty to felonies, but Obama’s Justice Department allowed actual human bankers to ride into the sunset. Early in his presidency, Obama vowed to spend up to $100 billion to help struggling families avert foreclosure. Instead, the administration converted the relief plan into a slush fund for big banks, as top traders at bailed-out firms were allowed to collect six-figure bonuses on the taxpayers’ dime.

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i mean.. we knew it was going to happen.

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Trump is honest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And not at all unseemly.

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I don't get the uproar. What is he going to do? Negotiate the price down?
If they want to give him a million dollars for his time, let him accept it.

I guess the only good question here is why do they think his speech is that valuable?

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Hilldawg getting paid BEFORE running for Pres is worse IMO. It's routine for Presidents to make the rounds after they leave the WH and make that paper.

thie problem with Obama tho is most Dems acted like Obama was different. Like he was "the one" and honestly, he was playing the game as well he was just really good at it.

or maybe we just gave him more of a pass because of the obvious.

when you preach about Main Street getting the shaft but you still popping bottles with Wall St. you get the side eye.

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We effectively elected a self admitted gamer of the system who proudly bragged about buying off politicians for his deals and we rewarded him with the highest seat in the nation.

And while drunk niggas RNC was screaming at Cruz's wife because she worked at Goldman they aint say a word at other Goldman graduates like Bannon and Mnuchin pulled up desks right next to the president in the white house.

For all their 'deep state', 'lobbyist' and 'big bank' hate, they sure have no problem skipping those middlemen and having billionaires all up in the white house.

I really can't blame ANY politician making a run for the bank and saying fuck all. It's the American dream and ultimately the dream that we want in our heart of hearts too.

Obama was supposed to be the 'anti' to all of that but look at how that turned out with the next 4 years dedicated to tearing down any of his progressive visions with that same suffering public cheering the dismantling of banking regulations as if Dodd Frank is going to impact a landscaping business.

Let him take the money and tell himself he's gonna put it towards progressive causes *shrug*

i feel some kinda way about hating on him getting paid by a system thass been fuckin black people over since jump.


a bad look for Obama vs. blk people's entire existence in Amerikka


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cabinet.
Mnuchin, in particular, should be under the jail. Obama's admin/justice dept decided not to prosecute.

Forget about equality in America. It ain't coming.

not saying he is but I think that's what Dems would say when it comes to that Wall St money.

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>Dems would say when it comes to that Wall St money

So, they can say what they want.

He's getting his bread outside of sports, drug dealing, and rapping. So, we need to let that man breave!

for what it is. Like -- what's a man with a wife and two kids supposed to say when offered $400,000 to talk? psssh Get real

Might even give 'em a 12 hour one for $40k.

Let me stop playing. Man, hand me FO STACKS and I'm talking all got damned afternoon starting at lunch!

man getting money legally and folks are like WHY??

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despite Barry being a private citizen now.

i mean, as far as i know the Obamas will never be broke again.

if they just HAVE to go speak at thesze places, why can't these people, who are already rich, just go there and speak w/out getting paid athlete salaries?

The Black man in effect! (c) KRS One

Edit: To hell with what anybody gotta say. Build that generational wealth, OBEEZY! SUCCESS!

they are not broke.

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>they are not broke.

We play the game to win. And he's doing just that in an exemplary way. We can't be in one place talking about not having the capability to ascend the wealth ladder as a people and then be another talking about walking away from legal money. As long as it ain't criminal activity building that wealth, I have no issues with it.

His grandkids' grandkids gon' eat. And eat good!

this is the gray area IMO.

Some of that money is from subprime loans and the writes off from that shit.

We lost generations of wealth in 2007/08.

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I've worked for companies that began accumulating wealth during the slave trade. You think I'm giving anything back.

The subprime loans and scandal weren't illegal. Unethical but not illegal. So, Obama getting dusty money instead of dirty money.

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Plus you had some banks laundering drug money.

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put it to good use in say Chicago or DC or some other place where maybe some fraction of $400,000 might help in a time when government money for community development projects will likely disappear?

with some of the 65 million he is getting for his memoir.

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is there an Obama foundation yet?

Black people, a foundation is not going to be enough and he will have to give a Wall street speech everyday.

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>>they are not broke.
>
>We play the game to win. And he's doing just that in an
>exemplary way. We can't be in one place talking about not
>having the capability to ascend the wealth ladder as a people
>and then be another talking about walking away from legal
>money. As long as it ain't criminal activity building that
>wealth, I have no issues with it.

I though I read that he was the temp leader of the Dems, those expensive speeches didn't help Hillary.

>His grandkids' grandkids gon' eat. And eat good!
>

His great grand kids will not be hungry.

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>His great grand kids will not be hungry.

http://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/real-estate/news/g2535/obama-new-house-photos/

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He got permanent income, he'll be aight.

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Whoever buys it next will pick up the tab.

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People in this thread acting like Obama just got laid off from a job.

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now maybe they set up something the benefits the future generations but ionno

especially when you look at where we are right now.

I mean, maybe this shit is a sham and we were set up from the jump.

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>I mean, maybe this shit is a sham and we were set up from the
>jump.
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>

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>maybe this shit is a sham and we were set up from the jump.

That's why they went Ivy League. For the connections that could help them pockets and that lineage.

YOU set an example. I'm hyper critical AF and even I think the man has done enough.

>I'm hyper critical AF and even I think the man has done
>enough

Not critical enough if you giving out passes that easy.

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when it comes to Obama, he gets the ultimate pass.

I get it but then again... I don't.

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but Obama as a man who is black in America I can get behind

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What do you really think a black man who survives the job is going to be able to do when mostly white people run the show?

It's amazing that anything got through at all. I think I've been critical enough of Obama because I can't criticize him for not being able to help black people from the seat of white power created for white people

>What do you really think a black man who survives the job is
>going to be able to do when mostly white people run the show?
>

Obama is smart and he was not helpless.


>It's amazing that anything got through at all. I think I've
>been critical enough of Obama because I can't criticize him
>for not being able to help black people from the seat of white
>power created for white people

He could help black people, even the seat of white power is not invincible.

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>>What do you really think a black man who survives the job
>is
>>going to be able to do when mostly white people run the
>show?
>>
>
>Obama is smart and he was not helpless.

but that's not the point. The point is in that role you serve white America first whether you like it or not.

>
>
>>It's amazing that anything got through at all. I think I've
>>been critical enough of Obama because I can't criticize him
>>for not being able to help black people from the seat of
>white
>>power created for white people
>
>He could help black people, even the seat of white power is
>not invincible.

Second verse same as the first

>>>What do you really think a black man who survives the job
>>is
>>>going to be able to do when mostly white people run the
>>show?
>>>
>>
>>Obama is smart and he was not helpless.
>
>but that's not the point. The point is in that role you serve
>white America first whether you like it or not.
>

Obama from helping Black people.

>>
>>>It's amazing that anything got through at all. I think I've
>>>been critical enough of Obama because I can't criticize him
>>>for not being able to help black people from the seat of
>>white
>>>power created for white people
>>
>>He could help black people, even the seat of white power is
>>not invincible.
>
>Second verse same as the first
>

If he can not do anything it means he is helpless.

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you know he was helpless in that position. How many black people getting killed did they parade on TV for us during his presidency? And nothing changed or even slowed down.

I mean assuming he's trying to do something

>you know he was helpless in that position. How many black
>people getting killed did they parade on TV for us during his
>presidency? And nothing changed or even slowed down.

He wasn't helpless. Nothing changed or slowed down because he didn't try.

>I mean assuming he's trying to do something

He could help every other group from the seat of white power except back people.

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During his administration paint a different picture if you ask me. White gold handcuffs was basically the position he was in. When you sit in that office money calls the shots that's why JFK is dead. He went against the money.

are saying. He would not get killed for helping Blacks.

>During his administration paint a different picture if you
>ask me. White gold handcuffs was basically the position he was
>in. When you sit in that office money calls the shots that's
>why JFK is dead. He went against the money.

White gold handcuffs that never stopped him from helping every other group.

JFK is dead because of money and more but even if you believe that's why Obama couldn't help Blacks, why didn't they go after him when he pulled troops out of Iraq or when he didn't invade and start wars with Syria, Iran, Libya ?

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I don't know how you are saying that when we could both create a nice list of black folks who died for doing just that.


They didn't go after him for pulling out of Iraq because that helps white people as much as if not more than black people. Beyond the race issue for that situation (i.e. the war) war is a business these days and to me it looks like the business interests moved to Afghanistan. Obviously just my opinion but there's no altruism in politics.

you know it's more to killing a President, then it is to kill someone who is not the President.

>I don't know how you are saying that when we could both
>create a nice list of black folks who died for doing just
>that.
>

On your list would any of the Black folks have the President of the U.S. job title ?

>They didn't go after him for pulling out of Iraq because that
>helps white people as much as if not more than black people.
>Beyond the race issue for that situation (i.e. the war) war is
>a business these days and to me it looks like the business
>interests moved to Afghanistan. Obviously just my opinion but
>there's no altruism in politics.

Pulling out of Iraq hurt the money and you said "when you sit in that office money calls the shots", he didn't go to war with the countries I listed, that messed with money. Since when has business interests stopped at one country ?

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>you know it's more to killing a President, then it is to kill
>someone who is not the President.

Yeas and no, but come on man if the entire fate of black people can be determined in a back room deal (as it was during reconstruction), or if entire towns can be razed and people murdered on camera and NO ONE goes to jail then to get the white "guard" to kill the black "king" would not be difficult at all.

>>I don't know how you are saying that when we could both
>>create a nice list of black folks who died for doing just
>>that.
>>
>
>On your list would any of the Black folks have the President
>of the U.S. job title ?

The point is if a civic leader who's just trying to get people to vote is a worthwhile target then of course a President is.

>>They didn't go after him for pulling out of Iraq because
>that
>>helps white people as much as if not more than black people.
>>Beyond the race issue for that situation (i.e. the war) war
>is
>>a business these days and to me it looks like the business
>>interests moved to Afghanistan. Obviously just my opinion
>but
>>there's no altruism in politics.
>
>Pulling out of Iraq hurt the money and you said "when you sit
>in that office money calls the shots", he didn't go to war
>with the countries I listed, that messed with money. Since
>when has business interests stopped at one country ?

They don't my point is they change. Maybe the analysis was that with all the turmoil in Iraq and in the US perhaps staying was a more risky venture than moving shop to Afghanistan. They can go back whenever they want

>>you know it's more to killing a President, then it is to
>kill
>>someone who is not the President.
>
>Yeas and no, but come on man if the entire fate of black
>people can be determined in a back room deal (as it was during
>reconstruction), or if entire towns can be razed and people
>murdered on camera and NO ONE goes to jail then to get the
>white "guard" to kill the black "king" would not be difficult
>at all.

Nah it's too much for too little gain. It doesn't stop with the killing, you have the cover up, the person you are replacing him with and everyone involved, has to be on the same page. It doesn't end with the white guard and it's going to take more than helping Black people to set all that in motion.

>>>I don't know how you are saying that when we could both
>>>create a nice list of black folks who died for doing just
>>>that.
>>>
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>>On your list would any of the Black folks have the President
>>of the U.S. job title ?
>
>The point is if a civic leader who's just trying to get people
>to vote is a worthwhile target then of course a President is.
>

A civic leader doesn't require all the extra that I listed above.

>>>They didn't go after him for pulling out of Iraq because
>>that
>>>helps white people as much as if not more than black
>people.
>>>Beyond the race issue for that situation (i.e. the war) war
>>is
>>>a business these days and to me it looks like the business
>>>interests moved to Afghanistan. Obviously just my opinion
>>but
>>>there's no altruism in politics.
>>
>>Pulling out of Iraq hurt the money and you said "when you
>sit
>>in that office money calls the shots", he didn't go to war
>>with the countries I listed, that messed with money. Since
>>when has business interests stopped at one country ?
>
>They don't my point is they change. Maybe the analysis was
>that with all the turmoil in Iraq and in the US perhaps
>staying was a more risky venture than moving shop to
>Afghanistan. They can go back whenever they want

What ? Iraq would be more stable if they stayed and clamped down then leaving ? They left money on the table to leave so they can spend money to come back ? How is that money calling the shots ?

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then every citizen should be like you is all I can say about that. Personally I think they could do a pretty sloppy job of it and because America is mostly white and mostly racist and or ignorant -- it would float. I mean JFK had plenty of fishy elements to it and nothing has happened. You think a black man is going to fare better?
I'm going to stick with the proven behavior patterns to form my conclusions and hope that you are right at the same time.

All I'm trying to say about the money and wars is that the Military Industrial Complex and whatever other corporate interests are more the decision makers when it comes to who we do and don't war with.

>then every citizen should be like you is all I can say about
>that. Personally I think they could do a pretty sloppy job of
>it and because America is mostly white and mostly racist and
>or ignorant -- it would float. I mean JFK had plenty of fishy
>elements to it and nothing has happened. You think a black man
>is going to fare better?
>I'm going to stick with the proven behavior patterns to form
>my conclusions and hope that you are right at the same time.

They didn't kill Freeway Rick Ross they just locked him up. They can get away with taking out a President and yes Black folks are expandable but it's not necessary, even if a sloppy job is required after it's done, when the President is not doing anything on the level of Reconstruction.

I can't do the live in fear and defeatist thing. I recognize reality but nobody is invincible.

>All I'm trying to say about the money and wars is that the
>Military Industrial Complex and whatever other corporate
>interests are more the decision makers when it comes to who we
>do and don't war with.

Leaving Iraq and staying of the countries I listed doesn't line up with MIC and corporate interests making those decisions.

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Ricky Ross isn't a threat to the system he was a short term asset. Sold dope got locked up and became fuel for the PICX along with whoever he turned on. Govt seizes his assets and whoever else and gains wealth. After that he's expendable.


>I can't do the live in fear and defeatist thing. I recognize
>reality but nobody is invincible.

Your right but at the same time reality just defines certain outcomes like it or not. Fear doesn't play into the equation unless you'r scared right? the system Obama oversaw we have to admit is not built to favor anyone but one group. That's not defeatist to acknowledge that IMO. And yes he helped other groups but that's because all those groups have more value in the eyes of the system i.e. Liberal elites.


>Leaving Iraq and staying of the countries I listed doesn't
>line up with MIC and corporate interests making those
>decisions.

What makes yous say that?

>Ricky Ross isn't a threat to the system he was a short term
>asset. Sold dope got locked up and became fuel for the PICX
>along with whoever he turned on. Govt seizes his assets and
>whoever else and gains wealth. After that he's expendable.
>

That's my point they wouldn't have to eliminate a threat just because he was helping Black people. Obama was an asset when he earned the title deporter in chief plus all the drones strikes.

>>I can't do the live in fear and defeatist thing. I recognize
>>reality but nobody is invincible.
>
>Your right but at the same time reality just defines certain
>outcomes like it or not. Fear doesn't play into the equation
>unless you'r scared right? the system Obama oversaw we have to
>admit is not built to favor anyone but one group. That's not
>defeatist to acknowledge that IMO. And yes he helped other
>groups but that's because all those groups have more value in
>the eyes of the system i.e. Liberal elites.
>

It's fear if you don't try because you think you know the outcome. Acknowledge the system don't say it makes him helpless. Other groups only have more value if he buys into the myth it. Did those other groups have more value when he asked for Black folks vote. When he lectured the Black community on absent Black fathers did the other groups have more value ?

>>Leaving Iraq and staying of the countries I listed doesn't
>>line up with MIC and corporate interests making those
>>decisions.
>
>What makes yous say that?
>

How do they gain money by leaving Iraq and avoiding war with Syria, Iran, and Libya ?

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I'm talking strictly politics.

I'm a huge Obama fan but I have no problem praising him AND pointing out moves that are questionable.

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lol repeated myself

without any idea of what he said to them. I don't have an issue with him speaking to them unless it's out of step with what he's saying elsewhere. If you look deep enough you can find questionable money in every one of his multi-millionaire donors.

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If not folks should be concerned.

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Or lose sleep over some name calling? Too much fun to be had doing blow at work and insider trading to let mere words knock their hustle.

It's part or mostly theater anyway. Like wrestling.

it's about Obama being a hypocrite.

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about the little bit you will do

and he is out of office.

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