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tomjohn29
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"Help me unpack this.....just had a Richard Spencer sighting"


  

          

Altright.com rents space within walking distance to where i live
Ive seen him often
didnt know who he was until the punching incident
iono...am i supposed to punch him?

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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RE: Help me unpack this.....just had a Richard Spencer sighting
Feb 08th 2017
1
Outside of cool internet video clips/memes
Feb 08th 2017
2
I don't think the notion of punching him is about resolution
Feb 08th 2017
7
You're trying to reason with Nazi's? You're trying to change their minds...
Feb 08th 2017
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WOW amazing quote
Feb 08th 2017
24
I'm personally not expecting reason from him
Feb 08th 2017
39
I think he already travels with like minded folk
Feb 08th 2017
16
Yes. But no. But yes. But... no. But, ya know, yeah. But no.
Feb 08th 2017
3
he have security?
Feb 08th 2017
4
he had people with him but i dont think they were security
Feb 08th 2017
5
and no...i didnt seriously think about punching him lol
Feb 08th 2017
6
Depends.... how slammable are you?
Feb 08th 2017
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5' 10 200...boxed since 9 and brown belt in jiu jitsu
Feb 08th 2017
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      no, you should be good to go.
Feb 08th 2017
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      LMAO!!!
Feb 08th 2017
26
           I was thinking about his henchmen... but dude got colored belts and shit
Feb 08th 2017
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      then yes, punch him. + others with him if possible
Feb 08th 2017
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           we losing recipes!!!
Feb 08th 2017
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           as the old saying goes:
Feb 08th 2017
27
           Straight like dat!
Feb 08th 2017
31
           Exactly
Feb 08th 2017
32
hit him with a head nod and see what he does
Feb 08th 2017
9
You gotta duff him (with supporting images)
Feb 08th 2017
11
people that get punched tend to keep getting punched
Feb 08th 2017
12
you gotta at least hit him with "AYO FAGGOT!"
Feb 08th 2017
14
Dude has been a nobody in Arlington for the past 10 years or so...
Feb 08th 2017
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so your who didn't work
Feb 08th 2017
20
      lol....it worked for ME. I ain't wasting my braincells giving that dude
Feb 08th 2017
21
           and I bet punching that dude worked for that other guy
Feb 08th 2017
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                If I ever meet him, he's getting Top Shelf at the spot.
Feb 08th 2017
28
go check out his tweets from during the super bowl
Feb 08th 2017
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yes
Feb 08th 2017
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Does he have the money and fame to afford bodyguards?
Feb 08th 2017
29
I can't lie... I probably would need someone to point him out in public
Feb 08th 2017
33
this punching this got people out here defending him
Feb 08th 2017
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And those people should see reply 11
Feb 08th 2017
35
she was actually wearing a make bitcoin great again hat
Feb 08th 2017
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The crazy and stupid on both sides are coming out
Feb 09th 2017
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      i didn't say he likes his views, i said he's a fan
Feb 09th 2017
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I've decided that if I had a chance, I would try and punch him.
Feb 08th 2017
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I believe in innoculation.
Feb 08th 2017
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      there are some who believe Milos paid off guys to riot
Feb 08th 2017
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      Yeah I've been following it.
Feb 08th 2017
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           damn near everyone in here wouldn't punch him IRL
Feb 08th 2017
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      I'd like these dudes to feel accountable for what they say.
Feb 08th 2017
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           Milos and Spencer are different.
Feb 08th 2017
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                Complete horseshit
Feb 08th 2017
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                Convincing argument.
Feb 08th 2017
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                     nah
Feb 08th 2017
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                     Your whiteness makes you oblivious & we're not dumb
Feb 08th 2017
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                     And his view on Muslims?
Feb 08th 2017
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                The same Milos who was calling Lesli Jones an Ape ain't racist?
Feb 08th 2017
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                     "he loves sex with black guys, he can't be racist" - alt white idiots
Feb 08th 2017
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                     Agreed.
Feb 08th 2017
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                     I didn't say he wasn't racist.
Feb 08th 2017
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                          smh
Feb 09th 2017
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                          he's a 'regular' racist, not a neo-Nazi so it's cool...
Feb 09th 2017
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                          i mean, yes...they are different
Feb 09th 2017
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                          That's shocking to me.
Feb 13th 2017
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                          Denny you are prolly a good dude but Get The Fuck Out of Here
Feb 09th 2017
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                               Just seeing this.
Feb 13th 2017
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                                    There's really a white dude on OKP...
Apr 06th 2017
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                                         ^^^
Apr 06th 2017
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                                         That's a very poor summation.
Apr 06th 2017
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                                         I been tellin ninjaz about this passive bigot for a minute now.
Apr 06th 2017
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                                         Damn
Apr 06th 2017
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                                         ^^^^^^
Apr 06th 2017
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                                         We got rid of OKAYActivist for this shit lol
Apr 07th 2017
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Umm. PM me the address, Arlington right?
Feb 08th 2017
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alexandria
Feb 09th 2017
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Punch that cunt in the face until your hand breaks.
Feb 09th 2017
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Update: Yo didju snuff dis ninja yet?
Apr 06th 2017
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Pete Burns
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1. "RE: Help me unpack this.....just had a Richard Spencer sighting"
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>iono...am i supposed to punch him?

Yes, yes you are...really hard.

  

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2. "Outside of cool internet video clips/memes"
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>iono...am i supposed to punch him?

what does this accomplish exactly?

And it's sad I should even have to type this, but I do not support this dude's views.

I could be wrong, but I don't think getting random punches in the street is going to change dude's world views anytime soon. And I would have to imagine dude will start traveling with other like minded folks that'll protect him since that infamous clip of him getting punched got so much play online.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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Cold Truth
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7. "I don't think the notion of punching him is about resolution"
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Hell debating him has nothing to do with resolution. It’s not like he’s open to changing his mind.

So I imagine punching him is more about the catharsis of the act, the satisfaction of release. He says words that makes people feel certain emotions and attacking him is simply a release of that energy.

I don’t think anyone who would like to punch him wants to do so because they think it will put a stop to him or it’s ideology.

  

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13. "You're trying to reason with Nazi's? You're trying to change their minds..."
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Those are a fool's errands.

Even Hitler himself said:
"Only one thing could have stopped our movement - if our adversaries had understood its principle and from the first day smashed with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement."

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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24. "WOW amazing quote"
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39. "I'm personally not expecting reason from him"
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and I understand emotionally why someone would want to deck this dude, but I rationally don't see why someone would plan ahead and take that course of action. Like I said because, I don't endorse what dude is saying, but I believe fighting someone is reasonable if your life or the lives of those close to you are in jeopardy. Punching this dude because you happen to be near him on a sidewalk doesn't fall under that jurisdiction to me.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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legsdiamond
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16. "I think he already travels with like minded folk"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Cold Truth
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3. "Yes. But no. But yes. But... no. But, ya know, yeah. But no. "
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As Chris Rock said, there's a good reason to push an old man down a flight of stairs.

Just don't do it.

Nobody with sense should be mad at you if you did but you're also giving him ammo and putting yourself at risk for an assault charge.

To that end I say daydream about it and KIM.

  

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Amritsar
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4. "he have security?"
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tomjohn29
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5. "he had people with him but i dont think they were security"
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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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tomjohn29
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6. "and no...i didnt seriously think about punching him lol"
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just an observation of seeing a guy irl who i supposed to feel a way about

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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legsdiamond
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8. "Depends.... how slammable are you? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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tomjohn29
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10. "5' 10 200...boxed since 9 and brown belt in jiu jitsu "
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is that slammable?

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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15. "no, you should be good to go. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Shogun
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26. "LMAO!!!"
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30. "I was thinking about his henchmen... but dude got colored belts and shit"
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He's good to go... almost questioning why he hasn't done it already.

Make those assholes cross the street when they see him

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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18. "then yes, punch him. + others with him if possible"
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Dudes in here talking about "what will that accomplish?"

lololol

Okayplayer is bordering on centristdemocrat.com

If nothing else, if NOTHING ELSE, lets Make Racists Afraid Again.

  

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legsdiamond
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19. "we losing recipes!!! "
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okps getting old and less radical by the minute.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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27. "as the old saying goes:"
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>
>Dudes in here talking about "what will that accomplish?"
>

"talk that shit NOW!!!"



>lololol
>
>Okayplayer is bordering on centristdemocrat.com
>

if this were real life, they'd give out participant ribbons and not keep score.


>If nothing else, if NOTHING ELSE, lets Make Racists Afraid
>Again.
>
>

Say word. There USED to be a time when talking shit meant a mouth shot was forthcoming.




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31. "Straight like dat!"
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>If nothing else, if NOTHING ELSE, lets Make Racists Afraid
>Again.
>

In 2k17, its time to go full Malcolm widdit.
Deez bigots need ta be gettin hadouken'd on
SIGHT!

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Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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Paps_Smear
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32. "Exactly"
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>If nothing else, if NOTHING ELSE, lets Make Racists Afraid
>Again.


I keep saying them folks ain't really as scared as they used to be. Maybe we got a little too friendly and welcoming when it comes to saying certain shit.

Maybe hitting this dude with a proper Rock Bottom and People's Elbow will spark the revolution.

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9. "hit him with a head nod and see what he does"
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https://soundcloud.com/swageyph/yph-die-with-me

  

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11. "You gotta duff him (with supporting images)"
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http://imgur.com/V8AaDWM

http://imgur.com/YnYrgYo

http://imgur.com/gI7XasU

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12. "people that get punched tend to keep getting punched"
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Wed Feb-08-17 11:36 AM by Atillah Moor

  

          

Streets first law of mouth running -- basically someone has to punch this dude, if it's not you the first law will see to it that someone else does

  

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14. "you gotta at least hit him with "AYO FAGGOT!""
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when he walks by.

  

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17. "Dude has been a nobody in Arlington for the past 10 years or so..."
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nothing but a joke to most....
fame has brought attention to him and his "movement"

feed the fame and the famous get stronger.

don't feed the fame and the famous fade.....

Reporter stopped me and my daughter as we ascended the Clarendon metro last fall....asked me if I had any comments about him....
my response "Who??" ... & then I K.I.M... if only more people would just do the same.

  

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20. "so your who didn't work"
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look at em now?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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21. "lol....it worked for ME. I ain't wasting my braincells giving that dude"
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any shine on camera.

Media just loves a good story & don't care about the consequences.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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23. "and I bet punching that dude worked for that other guy"
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I bet he is still getting free beers off that punch.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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28. "If I ever meet him, he's getting Top Shelf at the spot. "
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>I bet he is still getting free beers off that punch.
>
>

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22. "go check out his tweets from during the super bowl"
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he'd be dumb to travel with anything less than two bodyguards right about now.

  

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25. "yes"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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29. "Does he have the money and fame to afford bodyguards?"
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Or does he roll by himself?

If so, me personally I'm whoopin his ass on sight. Can't do it in your neighborhood though that's too close to home. Might have to follow him somewhere and get it in nice and good where he can't really call for help quickly.

Ski mask way.

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33. "I can't lie... I probably would need someone to point him out in public"
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I treat white people like they treat us. They all look alike to me unless I know them on a personal level.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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now or never
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34. "this punching this got people out here defending him"
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i was listening to joe rogan talking about the milo protest at berkeley (he's a milo fan)
and he took off on a rant about the girl that got pepper sprayed in a video who had on a make america great again hat
and basically said the left has become the right
and the whole punching a nazi thing was evidence of that
he didn't bring up richard spencer being an actual white nationalist tho

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35. "And those people should see reply 11"
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36. "she was actually wearing a make bitcoin great again hat"
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55. "The crazy and stupid on both sides are coming out "
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What makes u think Rogan "likes" Milo's views? Because he had him on his show? That's the stupid logic on both sides on some elementary school shit of you can't talk to them or you against us crap. Majority of that convo was Joe trolling smh.

  

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62. "i didn't say he likes his views, i said he's a fan "
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as in he has an appreciation for what milo does as a provocateur
whether or not he agrees with it

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37. "I've decided that if I had a chance, I would try and punch him."
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I got no priors and I think I might be able to avoid jail time. Not above lying and saying he called me the n word first.

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38. "I believe in innoculation."
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The more you try to shut down speeches....act violently to those who spead messages you don't like....the stronger they become. Milos, Spencer et al are reactionaries. Their entire message has become based on the reaction to them. So you're actually just fueling their movement by reacting in such a way.

Milos speech got shutdown at Berkeley. So then he gets 10 minutes on national news instead of an hour in front of a couple hundred people. We need to be more pragmatic. Do we want Milos to speak to millions of people or hundreds?

  

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40. "there are some who believe Milos paid off guys to riot"
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and the whole plan was to get shut down so he could get his 15 minutes.

We are past the point of ignoring these types. They know the game.

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41. "Yeah I've been following it."
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If the alt-right IS doing that they probably don't have to. I doubt they are. Look through this thread. Why would they have too?

In anycase....violence and shutdown protests are creating sympathizers amongst the Joe Rogan types and other fence-sitters. Plus it's consolidating the alt-right and the lite-right. Neither of those outcomes are good. But preach pragmatism (like Obama did) amongst the left and they will say 'you're one of them'. This is all gonna get worse.

Both extremes are anti-american and you can see the convergence when Trump says 'We are killers just like Putin'. The left agrees with him. The irony is that Spencer and the alt-right have the same goal in mind as leftist activists. To tear the country down.

  

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46. "damn near everyone in here wouldn't punch him IRL"
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You really think Buddy is swinging on someone? FOH.. he has a family.

OKP is filed with a bunch of internet warriors. We aren't hitting the streets, this ain't the 90's.

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42. "I'd like these dudes to feel accountable for what they say. "
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I think alot less people say N*gger in public than they use to because they are afraid they might get clocked.

I'm not at all interested in trying to sway the people who are on the fence making up their mind about Milos or Richard Spencer. Fuck them too.

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43. "Milos and Spencer are different."
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Milos is not a racial segregationist. Milos does not believe in white identity politics. Milos thinks we should all be individuals and race shouldn't matter. That's why he attacks the left. Because he thinks the left are too invested in identity politics. Spencer is the opposite of that and basically mirrors the left idealogically. Racial identity is first and foremost and is the basis of his belief system.

The only thing bringing Milos and Spencer together is having a common enemy amongst the protesters.

It might help to know what these people stand for before advocating violence towards them.

  

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44. "Complete horseshit"
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>Milos is not a racial segregationist. Milos does not believe
>in white identity politics. Milos thinks we should all be
>individuals and race shouldn't matter.

  

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45. "Convincing argument."
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Quote from Milos:

"I’d prefer we had no identity politics at all and that we judged people, as someone once said, not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. But if you’re going to have identity politics, you have to have them for everybody.

You might not like the result."

Of course, the 'result' he's referring to is the alt-right.

Milos advocates a post-racial, post-homophobic worldview. Not that I agree with him. But we might as well identify what's what if we're deciding who to punch in the face.

  

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47. "nah"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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48. "Your whiteness makes you oblivious & we're not dumb "
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It's blatantly obvious he's a tool for white supremacy, no matter what he says

  

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50. "And his view on Muslims?"
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all Muslims, to be specific...

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49. "The same Milos who was calling Lesli Jones an Ape ain't racist?"
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51. ""he loves sex with black guys, he can't be racist" - alt white idiots "
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53. "Agreed."
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Wed Feb-08-17 09:56 PM by denny

          

This is such a stupid defence that Milos and his followers make over and over again. SS soldiers used to sleep with Jewish women. So what?

But again...you are confusing 'alt-right' with Milos followers. Alt-right people are NOT cool with interracial sex. Milos followers are. This is why it's dangerous to treat them one and the same. Someone like Joe Rogan may have an allure to Milos....but he would never have an allure to Spencer and the alt-right. There are probably tens of millions of white people in that same boat. In contrast...the actual alt-right and Spencer, et al.....are have a more fringe appeal. But the media is treating them as one and the same.

We have to distinguish between people who hate political correctness and people who believe in 'peaceful ethnic cleansing'. If not....that's ALOT of faces to punch.

  

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52. "I didn't say he wasn't racist."
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I said he does not believe in racial identity politics which is the foundation of alt-right beliefs.

Personally, I think Milos is racist but it's alot different from Richard Spencer. Milos ignores 'racial context' because he thinks we're post-race. Therefor, he doesn't think there's any difference between Leslie Jones making fun of white people and him making fun of black people (his attacking Jones was retaliation for her tweeting jokes about white people if you didn't know).

Richard Spence thinks white people should be proud of their heritage and seek out segregated society by means of 'peaceful ethnic cleansing'. He is essentially a neo-nazi/klansman (though he claims otherwise). Milo thinks we should all live together and minorities (including gay people) should stop defining themselves as such because their perceived oppression is not real. I obviously don't agree with either of them but the distinction is relevant.

I made a very long post about this I wish you could have read. It got deleted....I'm guessing because I provided links to racist websites which I understand was probably not a good idea. It was a pretty good summation of what the alt-right is and why they are more dangerous than the Klan/nazi skinheads.

  

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56. "smh"
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57. "he's a 'regular' racist, not a neo-Nazi so it's cool..."
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F all the way OHWTBS.

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60. "i mean, yes...they are different"
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but not different enough for different distinctions

his stance still fails even most common sense tests...if we're post-racial...why would the need to allow racially charged insults be such a huge priority to this so-called post-racial world

no, the impact is the same...you can't preach for melting pot integration whilst calling Leslie Jones an ape...it's retarded...it's no different from Spencer bc the impact is the same despite the bs rhetoric...

a distinction without importance...

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63. "That's shocking to me."
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The distinction is VERY important. An importance that would distinguish if your beefing with tens of thousands of people or more than a hundred million people (i'd reckon).

BTW, he didn't call Jones an ape. And he disavowed himself from that comment calling it offensive and 'bad trolling' (which he proclaims to be an expert in). He called her a 'black dude'.

  

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61. "Denny you are prolly a good dude but Get The Fuck Out of Here"
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With that Bullshit.

1. First Off, Racism is the ultimate and original Identity Politics. Any of those David Brooks type commentators who spend all their energy deriding Identity Politics and Political Correctness but can't muster up the energy to investigate the underlying conditions that give rise to those "so called" issues are self-serving Pricks. Think about it. All the fucked up shit in the world going on and these white guys spend column after column worried about the one issue that makes them feel a little uncomfortable? Bullshit.

2. If Milos is a racist, like you acknowledge, then you can't say he "ignores racial context" or that he is "Post Race". You can't be both racist and post-racial, that shit doesn't even make sense.

3. Get the fuck out of her suggesting that either Leslie Jones brought on herself the attacks she received or started the beef with Milos. Absolutely did not happen that way. The beef started when Milo's minions started attacking Lesli Jones after Milo criticized Ghostbusters and Milo's retweeted those racist and terrible tweets (including faked tweets framing Lesli Jones for saying racist and homophobic shit). LJ asked twitter to do something about it and they banned Milo which just upped the attacks against LJ. LJ has in the past made "racial jokes" (white people walk like this, etc.) and I am fine with comedians making "racial jokes" Louis CK does it all the time. But calling black people apes aren't racial jokes, that's just plain racist.

4. Your posting shows why Milo is so dangerous. Dude is super smart and he has a seductive brand of racism and sexism that seems sophisticated, intelligent and rebelliously cool by mixing lies and half truths and letting his minions do his dirty work so he can hide his hand after throwing stones and say "Well I didn't say that". If you find yourself adored by Racist and White Supremicist you are doing something wrong. (BTW, if all this sounds familar it's because we have a President who does the same thing).

For example his review of the New Ghostbusters was largely accurate in many regards but he fashioned it in such a way to fuel a war on feminism needlessly and excited the racist and mysoginist to attack LJ. Or look at his article about how there should be a cap of women in grad school which uses just enough logic and stats to make a simple dude think it's a well reasoned logical argument.

At least it's clear that Richard Spencer is a Neo-Nazi. Milo got you up in here talking about he is racist but he is also "post racist". SMH.

5. Finally, kill all the condescending whitesplaining ("It might help to know what these people stand for", or this notion that I don't understand the Alt-Right). I don't know why you assume I don't know what I am talking about, but don't.


You can try and perform all that parsing between Racist Troll and White Supremicist Troll, I stand by original opinion of would love clocking either if given the opportunity.




>I said he does not believe in racial identity politics which
>is the foundation of alt-right beliefs.
>
>Personally, I think Milos is racist but it's alot different
>from Richard Spencer. Milos ignores 'racial context' because
>he thinks we're post-race. Therefor, he doesn't think there's
>any difference between Leslie Jones making fun of white people
>and him making fun of black people (his attacking Jones was
>retaliation for her tweeting jokes about white people if you
>didn't know).
>
>Richard Spence thinks white people should be proud of their
>heritage and seek out segregated society by means of 'peaceful
>ethnic cleansing'. He is essentially a neo-nazi/klansman
>(though he claims otherwise). Milo thinks we should all live
>together and minorities (including gay people) should stop
>defining themselves as such because their perceived oppression
>is not real. I obviously don't agree with either of them but
>the distinction is relevant.
>
>I made a very long post about this I wish you could have read.
> It got deleted....I'm guessing because I provided links to
>racist websites which I understand was probably not a good
>idea. It was a pretty good summation of what the alt-right is
>and why they are more dangerous than the Klan/nazi skinheads.


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64. "Just seeing this."
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>With that Bullshit.
>
>1. First Off, Racism is the ultimate and original Identity
>Politics. Any of those David Brooks type commentators who
>spend all their energy deriding Identity Politics and
>Political Correctness but can't muster up the energy to
>investigate the underlying conditions that give rise to those
>"so called" issues are self-serving Pricks. Think about it.
>All the fucked up shit in the world going on and these white
>guys spend column after column worried about the one issue
>that makes them feel a little uncomfortable? Bullshit.

Yes. Milos says the same thing.


>2. If Milos is a racist, like you acknowledge, then you can't
>say he "ignores racial context" or that he is "Post Race".
>You can't be both racist and post-racial, that shit doesn't
>even make sense.

It's the difference between his philosophy and what I THINK about his philosophy. I might have unfairly characterized him as being post-racial. In fact...Milos has said that black people are the most oppressed group in America and he pointed to prison statistics as evidence. The reason I characterized him as 'post-racial' is because Milos does not adhere to what he calls 'signifiers' to prove he's not racist. He will make equivalents without acknowledging context. So Milos is the type of person who says something like 'If Leslie Jones was white and making fun of black people like that....she would be banished from hollywood'. As you know (how many more disclaimers of this ridiculous notion of whitesplaining am I'm gonna have to include) liberals tend to acknowledge that there is a historical context that makes arguments appealing to equivalence invalid. For us (me and you I presume?)....It's NOT the same when Jones makes fun of white people and when Milos makes fun of black people because of historical context. Milos refutes that. That's what I meant by him being 'post-race'. He doesn't acknowledge historical context and the way it should guide our use of racial humor.


>3. Get the fuck out of her suggesting that either Leslie
>Jones brought on herself the attacks she received or started
>the beef with Milos. Absolutely did not happen that way. The
>beef started when Milo's minions started attacking Lesli Jones
>after Milo criticized Ghostbusters and Milo's retweeted those
>racist and terrible tweets (including faked tweets framing
>Lesli Jones for saying racist and homophobic shit). LJ asked
>twitter to do something about it and they banned Milo which
>just upped the attacks against LJ. LJ has in the past made
>"racial jokes" (white people walk like this, etc.) and I am
>fine with comedians making "racial jokes" Louis CK does it all
>the time. But calling black people apes aren't racial jokes,
>that's just plain racist.

Milos didn't call Jones an ape and he didn't retweet whoever did say that. The only comment I've found him making about it was that whoever compared her to an ape was despicable and offensive. He tweeted that she looked like a 'black dude'. So if you're cool with racial jokes I'd like to hear exactly what it is you are outraged about in regards to what Milos actually said about Jones. Not being snarky here...there might be more that I don't know.

>4. Your posting shows why Milo is so dangerous. Dude is super
>smart and he has a seductive brand of racism and sexism that
>seems sophisticated, intelligent and rebelliously cool by
>mixing lies and half truths and letting his minions do his
>dirty work so he can hide his hand after throwing stones and
>say "Well I didn't say that". If you find yourself adored by
>Racist and White Supremicist you are doing something wrong.
>(BTW, if all this sounds familar it's because we have a
>President who does the same thing).

Agreed. He does mix half truths and lies all the time. I don't like Milos either. But I think it's dangerous to not differentiate between him and someone like Richard Spencer. Fact is....Milos views on just about everything except for race are pretty prominent on this very board.

>For example his review of the New Ghostbusters was largely
>accurate in many regards but he fashioned it in such a way to
>fuel a war on feminism needlessly and excited the racist and
>mysoginist to attack LJ. Or look at his article about how
>there should be a cap of women in grad school which uses just
>enough logic and stats to make a simple dude think it's a
>well reasoned logical argument.

Agreed. Though Milos certainly does have legitimate arguments against modern day feminism and they are often less mysoginist than views espoused on this board on a daily basis.

>At least it's clear that Richard Spencer is a Neo-Nazi. Milo
>got you up in here talking about he is racist but he is also
>"post racist". SMH.

This is fucking BULLSHIT. This idea that Milos is more dangerous than Richard Spencer because it's 'racism undercover' which you seem to be alluding to. Absolutely ridiculous. In fact....you have not even provided an example of Milos saying a racist thing yet. It wouldn't be hard (imo)...but you haven't. I'd be interested (not being snarky here) in something he's said that you object to. If I hadn't made it clear before...the contraction you are pointing out about the 'post-race' thing is the difference between what Milos presents himself as and what my critique of him is.

>5. Finally, kill all the condescending whitesplaining ("It
>might help to know what these people stand for", or this
>notion that I don't understand the Alt-Right). I don't know
>why you assume I don't know what I am talking about, but
>don't.

I'm not hearing that whitesplaining shit. You said 'Isn't he the guy that called Leslie Jones an ape?'. Which firstly, is wrong. And secondly, people don't tend to word questions like that about someone they are intimately familiar with. You were clearly unaware of the idealogical differences between Milos and Spencer which is not a factor of race. Quite frankly, appealing to whitesplaining is cheap. Milos is white, Spencer is white, I am white and I have an opinion. We're not debating about an exclusively black issue that should be settled exclusively amongst black people here. This isnt' a 'black/Black' debate or something like that.

>You can try and perform all that parsing between Racist Troll
>and White Supremicist Troll, I stand by original opinion of
>would love clocking either if given the opportunity.

And I'm telling you, to my knowledge.....and I'm being VERY approximate here....but it's the difference between wanting to punch 10 to 20 thousand people and wanting to punch 100 million people. I have a hard time accepting that difference isn't relevant.

And through all of this...we still haven't even discussed what things Milos has said that are racist. And we should. But ignoring historical context as it pertains to the sensitivity of racial jokes is a FAR FUCKING CRY from advocating 'peaceful ethnic cleansing'. To suggest there's not degrees of racism...that there's no difference between something like the prejudices of our old grandparents and the views of someone like Hitler is ludicrous.

  

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66. "There's really a white dude on OKP..."
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Telling us which racism we should be cool with.


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67. "^^^"
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68. "That's a very poor summation."
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But i can understand your motivation in making it.

Nowhere did I suggest anyone should be 'cool' with Milos. I said Milos has a different idealogy than Richard Spencer. Milos is not alt-right.

  

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69. "I been tellin ninjaz about this passive bigot for a minute now."
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OKP as a whole just has a terrible time
falling for da ofaye doke.

We spend too much, "give this ofaye da benefit of the doubt, I mean hey...Hes on OKP, he CANT be racist!" currency on deez out-group ninjaz.

Type ninjaz thinkin that just because they
penetrate soft Black booty at nite, they can come
on a Black cultural website and passively over-step
ethno-cultural boundaries with thinly-veiled racist intent
at day.


NAW SUN!

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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Lurkmode
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70. "Damn "
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defending Milo and Buddy said Denny is probably a good dude.

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Hitokiri
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71. "^^^^^^"
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I don't even reply to dude anymore.
I refuse

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isaaaa
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72. "We got rid of OKAYActivist for this shit lol"
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Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg


Just trying to share the world - www.JySbr.net

  

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tourgasm
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54. "Umm. PM me the address, Arlington right?"
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58. "alexandria"
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http://redbricktown.com/2017/01/alt-right-movement-sets-shop-alexandria/

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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59. "Punch that cunt in the face until your hand breaks."
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65. "Update: Yo didju snuff dis ninja yet?"
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https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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