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ThaTruth
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"Poll question: Is anybody else downright frightened at these Trump cabinet pics?"


          

I know a lot people didn't really care for Hillary including me but you knew that she would at least appoint semi-competent people to important positions. I don't even want to think about Trump's Supreme Court appointments as well as other federal judges.

Poll result (35 votes)
yeah we're fucked (32 votes)Vote
no biggy, we'll survive (0 votes)Vote
no place for a black man in a white man's world (0 votes)Vote
IDC, it won't affect me either way (2 votes)Vote
Make America Great Again (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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They're nihilist picks.
Jan 19th 2017
1
Rick Perry didn't even know what the Dept of Energy did(swipe)
Jan 19th 2017
2
reading that article today and the qualifications of his predecessors......
Jan 19th 2017
6
      Man, that part nearly made me give up on everything... n/m
Jan 19th 2017
11
aint shit we can do about it
Jan 19th 2017
3
It does look like some Adolf, Joseph, Heinrich, & Reinhard
Jan 19th 2017
4
I doubt that
Jan 19th 2017
10
      Funny thing about Pizza gate...
Jan 19th 2017
21
           NY Times has an article about the guy
Jan 19th 2017
45
                Don't fully believe in pizzagate, but I wouldn't say it's too far fetche...
Jan 20th 2017
49
                     It has holes in it
Jan 20th 2017
52
                     ^^Seek help
Jan 20th 2017
54
                          man I didn't say I believed it and if any of it is true who knows
Jan 20th 2017
56
                               except none of those things are odd
Jan 20th 2017
57
                                    http://j.tinyurl.com/j3pxap5
Jan 23rd 2017
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Betsy Devos as Secretary of Education is just terrible.
Jan 19th 2017
5
man did you see how Bernie destroyed her?
Jan 19th 2017
7
Yep. And Franken, Warren, and Kaine.
Jan 19th 2017
9
      they all slaughtered her, and she made it
Jan 19th 2017
46
TURRIBLE (c) barkley
Jan 19th 2017
19
They are concerning at the very least
Jan 19th 2017
8
Came in this post expecting a photo spread
Jan 19th 2017
12
my bad that's actually a personal pet peeve of mine, too late to edit lo...
Jan 19th 2017
16
anyone paying attention should be scared as sh!t
Jan 19th 2017
13
not really. of the departments mentioned, I haven't the slightest idea
Jan 19th 2017
14
but this is really just the tip of the iceberg, I think most people were...
Jan 19th 2017
18
You might need to take a look at some
Jan 19th 2017
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Just cause folks don't know what the govt does...
Jan 19th 2017
32
you may not know, but these are professional doing their jobs
Jan 19th 2017
39
A fox in every henhouse.
Jan 19th 2017
15
I was watching some of that Devos hearing....
Jan 19th 2017
17
and i don't think she's ever run a large org before
Jan 19th 2017
40
The Heritage Foundation is about to gut everything (swipe)
Jan 19th 2017
20
Yall can stay if you want lol
Jan 19th 2017
22
Where you going bruh?
Jan 19th 2017
28
      Wherever these job apps can take me for now
Jan 19th 2017
29
legit terrifying to me.
Jan 19th 2017
25
They're about to overstep their mandate...
Jan 19th 2017
24
Some of these people are ruthlessly competent....
Jan 19th 2017
26
really, its a second gilded age
Jan 19th 2017
47
I voted MAGA, because...aren't alot of these picks re-treads
Jan 19th 2017
27
No, several of them have opposed the very dept they may run.
Jan 19th 2017
30
all - several = a lot, you're welcome
Jan 19th 2017
38
      not close to for the most part
Jan 19th 2017
42
no, there's like 2 retreads
Jan 19th 2017
41
RICK PERRY : GOTTEN TO!
Jan 19th 2017
31
GOP can't lose. These folks will do terrible jobs and then they can say
Jan 19th 2017
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I dunno, this is a little too brazen...
Jan 19th 2017
35
it's *been* working. it's not going to stop working unless
Jan 19th 2017
43
They never shrink govt. They cut a few entitlements
Jan 20th 2017
50
Mitt Romney thinking he had a seat at the table
Jan 19th 2017
34
He WOULD have
Jan 19th 2017
37
      I'm not convinced he ever had a shot
Jan 20th 2017
48
           Imagine the satisfaction for Trump is Romney groveled
Jan 20th 2017
53
                uh. trump clowned christie standing 1ft away from him. often.
Jan 20th 2017
58
RE: Is anybody else downright frightened at these Trump cabinet pics?
Jan 19th 2017
36
Part of me thinks that Trump really isn't picking most of these folks
Jan 19th 2017
44
Did Obama "pick" his cabinet in 2008?
Jan 20th 2017
51
mnuchin is the biggest gangster of them all
Jan 20th 2017
55

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1. "They're nihilist picks."
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Every last pick is a "we don't care about this department, it might as well disappear, and if people die, if we all die, it doesn't matter anyway" pick.

The people who voted for him weren't voting for change. They were voting for a fuck you to the present and a who gives a shit to the future.

Because anyone reasonably smart who heard Trump voters say "well it can't get any worse" knew that it could get sooooooo much worse. And it has.

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2. "Rick Perry didn't even know what the Dept of Energy did(swipe)"
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Thu Jan-19-17 12:19 PM by Marbles

  

          

And we was campaigning for it to be abolished.

Now that he's been nominated, he has an idea of what its responsibilities are. And he lacks the qualifications to handle it.

This administration looks poised to set the US back significantly.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/us/politics/rick-perry-energy-secretary-donald-trump.html

WASHINGTON — When President-elect Donald J. Trump offered Rick Perry the job of energy secretary five weeks ago, Mr. Perry gladly accepted, believing he was taking on a role as a global ambassador for the American oil and gas industry that he had long championed in his home state.

In the days after, Mr. Perry, the former Texas governor, discovered that he would be no such thing — that in fact, if confirmed by the Senate, he would become the steward of a vast national security complex he knew almost nothing about, caring for the most fearsome weapons on the planet, the United States’ nuclear arsenal.

Two-thirds of the agency’s annual $30 billion budget is devoted to maintaining, refurbishing and keeping safe the nation’s nuclear stockpile; thwarting nuclear proliferation; cleaning up and rebuilding an aging constellation of nuclear production facilities; and overseeing national laboratories that are considered the crown jewels of government science.

“If you asked him on that first day he said yes, he would have said, ‘I want to be an advocate for energy,’” said Michael McKenna, a Republican energy lobbyist who advised Mr. Perry’s 2016 presidential campaign and worked on the Trump transition’s Energy Department team in its early days. “If you asked him now, he’d say, ‘I’m serious about the challenges facing the nuclear complex.’ It’s been a learning curve.”

Mr. Perry, who once called for the elimination of the Energy Department, will begin the confirmation process Thursday with a hearing before the Senate Energy Committee. If approved by the Senate, he will take over from a secretary, Ernest J. Moniz, who was chairman of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology physics department and directed the linear accelerator at M.I.T.’s Laboratory for Nuclear Science. Before Mr. Moniz, the job belonged to Steven Chu, a physicist who won a Nobel Prize.

For Mr. Moniz, the future of nuclear science has been a lifelong obsession; he spent his early years working at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. Mr. Perry studied animal husbandry and led cheers at Texas A&M University.

Mr. Moniz had such deep experience with nuclear weapons that in 2015, President Obama made him a co-negotiator, along with Secretary of State John Kerry, of the Iran nuclear deal.

Mr. Perry would sit atop the men and women making the judgments about whether Iran is complying with that accord. In the basement of the Energy Department’s headquarters, the agency’s intelligence unit monitors compliance, working closely with the C.I.A., the National Security Agency and other intelligence bodies.

While even Mr. Perry’s supporters concede that he has no experience making high-level decisions on nuclear weapons policy, he has had some dealings with the problem of nuclear waste, which also falls under the purview of the Energy Department.

As governor, Mr. Perry pushed a plan to create a low-level nuclear waste repository in Texas, to be privately run by a Dallas-based company, Waste Control Specialists, which was also a contributor to Mr. Perry’s re-election campaigns. The question of what to do with nuclear waste has long been a central problem for the Energy Department. By law, it is supposed to be buried at a federally run repository to be built at Yucca Mountain in Nevada.

“No other state has licensed a nuclear waste facility like this, and it was all done on Governor Perry’s watch,” said Charles McDonald, a spokesman for Waste Control Specialists. “He really understands this stuff.”

Mr. Perry’s backers also note that Texas is home to Pantex, an Energy Department plant where nuclear weapons are assembled. But as governor, he had no role in running the facility.

His supporters say, however, that his experience running the nation’s second-largest state economy has sufficiently prepared him. “Like with any of these positions in Washington, what is needed is strong leadership skills,” Deirdre Delisi, his former chief of staff, said. “I have no doubt he will be able to attract the best and the brightest.”

In a recent interview in the energy secretary’s office, down the hall from the secure facility where he gets his updates on nuclear threats, Mr. Moniz talked about the challenges the United States will face as the Trump administration decides where to take a multibillion-dollar renovation of the nation’s nuclear production facilities and laboratories. Mr. Moniz championed that effort, hoping it would position the United States to preserve its nuclear force without resuming nuclear tests, and ultimately to reduce the number of nuclear warheads.

“We refurbished our weapons to make them safer and more reliable,” Mr. Moniz said, choosing his words with precision. “We didn’t ‘modernize.’” Modernization, he said, “is what Russia is doing and China is doing,” which, he acknowledged, could jeopardize Mr. Obama’s vision of a world free of nuclear weapons.

But the scope of the Obama-era effort was so broad that, paradoxically, it will give Mr. Perry and Mr. Trump the opportunity to go in a very different direction: With the scientific and infrastructural upgrades, America is now better poised to resume an arms race that Mr. Trump recently said he was open to pursuing.

If Mr. Perry has views on those issues — including on whether to test nuclear weapons rather than build computer models of how they would perform — they are unknown.

He would not be the first nonexpert to run the Energy Department. Bill Richardson took the job under President Bill Clinton after serving as ambassador to the United Nations, and later became the governor of New Mexico.

But Mr. Perry’s qualifications to oversee a muscular renovation, or expansion, of the nation’s nuclear weapons complex are expected to be among the chief topics of questioning at his confirmation hearing. Mr. Trump’s transition team declined a request to interview Mr. Perry.

“Rick Perry was pitch-perfect for Texas politics,” said Calvin Jillson, a professor of political science at Southern Methodist University in Texas. “He has very close ties to the oil industry. He is about ‘the Texas way’ — low taxes, low regulation. But none of that gives him the depth of knowledge needed for running the Energy Department.”

Mr. Perry is attuned to that vulnerability. The Energy Department was on the list of agencies he said he wanted to eliminate when he ran for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012 — though he famously forgot its name during a debate. Despite what he called his “oops” moment, he stood by his call to dismantle the department, saying, “They’ve never created one bit of energy, the best I can tell.”

If confirmed, Mr. Perry would be at the table for one of the first big debates of the Trump presidency: what to do with the Iran nuclear deal that Mr. Moniz played such a critical role in shaping. Mr. Trump has called the deal a “disaster,” and Vice President-elect Mike Pence talked during the campaign about scrapping it.

But the president-elect’s pick for defense secretary, Gen. James N. Mattis, advised keeping the agreement during his confirmation hearing, and the nominee for secretary of state, Rex W. Tillerson, was equally cautious.

  

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6. "reading that article today and the qualifications of his predecessors......"
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compared to his and it made me shudder

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11. "Man, that part nearly made me give up on everything... n/m"
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3. "aint shit we can do about it"
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let the chips fall where they may

  

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4. "It does look like some Adolf, Joseph, Heinrich, & Reinhard "
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Thu Jan-19-17 12:26 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

Hillary's picks would have been the same types of people with better paint

  

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10. "I doubt that"
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Hillary would have picked her own criminals but Rick Perry or the NSA pick, who has the son that was spreading pizza gate.

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21. "Funny thing about Pizza gate..."
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Thu Jan-19-17 01:27 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

I live 10 minutes walking from there -- family place, but yeah a LOT of kids and the secret doors and that painting that looked just like something out of documentary I saw on trauma therapy and children, but I digress

Hillary and Donald are drivers of the same bus with a pre plotted destination and yet to be determined course. Sounds like you prefer Hills route.

  

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45. "NY Times has an article about the guy "
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who created fake news stories. Pizzagate could be that.

>I live 10 minutes walking from there -- family place, but
>yeah a LOT of kids and the secret doors and that painting that
>looked just like something out of documentary I saw on trauma
>therapy and children, but I digress

Sounds like you believe it is true.

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>Hillary and Donald are drivers of the same bus with a pre
>plotted destination and yet to be determined course. Sounds
>like you prefer Hills route.

That's a stretch I never said anything that would indicate a preference.

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49. "Don't fully believe in pizzagate, but I wouldn't say it's too far fetche..."
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Either. Just saying that in DC strange things happen.

Yeah that is a stretch to say you prefer Hills strategy. I'm wondering though who or what you felt the better option was.

  

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52. "It has holes in it"
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>Either. Just saying that in DC strange things happen.

Snopes found some of those holes

http://www.snopes.com/pizzagate-conspiracy

>Yeah that is a stretch to say you prefer Hills strategy. I'm
>wondering though who or what you felt the better option was.

You mean a better option for President ? Dr Cornel West, Chuck D, Boots Riley, Paris

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54. "^^Seek help"
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If your brain can give even a moment's thought of "this could be real" then you need help from a counselor - or a physician.

Not joking at all - no snark - but your mind is becoming warped.

Note: Same thing happened to my dad has he got older - but with gambling. In his 20s-40s he was not a gambler and could understand hwo things worked. By his mid-50's he was addicted and thought that each time he played the poker machine was 1 time closer to him wining. Something happened in his mind.

As you get older you need to keep an eye on what insane shit you start to believe in.

Now, I could be wrong - *maybe* there was a pizza restaurant in DC where politicians paid to rape children and the only people that could help were dumb-fuck rednecks with guns. <-Does that sound reasonable????

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56. "man I didn't say I believed it and if any of it is true who knows "
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the actual details? Like I said

Lot of kids there, but it's a family restaurant in a family neighbourhood. Only about 4 registered sex offenders in a 50 mile radius of the place so that's probably a low number.

unmarked bathroom doors that blend near perfectly into the wall. Cool, but odd whatever.

Painting of what looked like several larger figures standing around two smaller figures on top of one another on the ground. Probably just a weird painting but odd.

So I/m not sure what the big deal stating that there were some odd things about the place.

Living in a country where most of the people chose or support a reality tv star who habitually lies and rode a wave of hatred to power who also has/had a witnessed rape case filed (and dropped -- how about that?) against them you might want to do some double checking on what a grasp on reality looks like.

DC is a city that has sex scandals involving powerful people and thus anything is possible.

  

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57. "except none of those things are odd"
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unless you're viewing it from the perspective of the theory being a possibility. When it's just an absurd theory.

  

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59. "http://j.tinyurl.com/j3pxap5"
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totally normal yeah?

https://i2.wp.com/therealstrategy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/kimnoble-e1479157148362.jpg?w=800&ssl=1

  

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5. "Betsy Devos as Secretary of Education is just terrible."
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Based on her answers at the hearings, she wouldn't pass the interview process for a regular teaching position. And she's gonna be running everything???

  

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7. "man did you see how Bernie destroyed her? "
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9. "Yep. And Franken, Warren, and Kaine. "
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46. "they all slaughtered her, and she made it "
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incredibly easy to do so and cheesed the whole time. what a 1%er clown.

  

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19. "TURRIBLE (c) barkley"
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8. "They are concerning at the very least"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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12. "Came in this post expecting a photo spread"
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/politics/donald-trump-administration.html

  

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13. "anyone paying attention should be scared as sh!t"
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It is literally looking they plan is to dismantle or, at best, severely hinder these departments.

I'm getting the sense that a lot of people are checked out, and I can't necessarily blame them because ignorance can be bliss.


But these are scary, scary times.

  

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14. "not really. of the departments mentioned, I haven't the slightest idea"
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or clue as to what they've done over the past 20 years that resulted in anything of considerable measure.

as do probably 50% + of Americans.

The media is whipping us all into a frenzy about that things that are very much out of our control right now, while things that ARE within our control are being forgotten about or ignored.

The deed is done, it's really about time that folks Harvey up and figure out a way to move within this new reality instead of bitching and protesting and fear mongering about it. Because NONE that is going to have any affect on the reality that is at our doorstep right now.

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18. "but this is really just the tip of the iceberg, I think most people were..."
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hoping after Trump got in he would calm down and actually appoint some legitimate people to help him govern but apparently he's not. You may think things like Treasury, Energy & Education secretaries aren't important but they are. And like I said things will get really real when he starts appointing judges.

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23. "You might need to take a look at some"
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of those departments before you stick with that media whipping argument.

>or clue as to what they've done over the past 20 years that
>resulted in anything of considerable measure.
>
>as do probably 50% + of Americans.
>
>The media is whipping us all into a frenzy about that things
>that are very much out of our control right now, while things
>that ARE within our control are being forgotten about or
>ignored.
>
>The deed is done, it's really about time that folks Harvey up
>and figure out a way to move within this new reality instead
>of bitching and protesting and fear mongering about it.
>Because NONE that is going to have any affect on the reality
>that is at our doorstep right now.
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32. "Just cause folks don't know what the govt does..."
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doesn't mean we won't miss it terribly when it's gone.


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39. "you may not know, but these are professional doing their jobs"
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some of these departments and offices could be improved upon, but they more or less work and are vital to millions of people's lives.

putting people without a clue in charge, or people with their own divergent agenda....it's a real problem.

  

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15. "A fox in every henhouse."
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17. "I was watching some of that Devos hearing...."
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The republicans tried to protect her by giving the senators limited time to ask questions. She still failed big time.

She couldn't answer a single damn question. She didn't dip and dodge like Tillerson did. She literally was unable to formulate a cognizant response.
Even republicans were embarrassed by it. I was embarrassed for her

You could make the argument that these department heads don't necessarily need to be experts in the area. A lot of the job is simply just managing a large organization. But you ideally want at least some knowledge of the function of your agency.

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40. "and i don't think she's ever run a large org before"
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20. "The Heritage Foundation is about to gut everything (swipe)"
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And you won't be surprised the things which are at the top of their agenda
The Minority Business Development Agency
The Office of Community Oriented Policing Services, Violence Against Women Grants and the Legal Services Corporation and for reducing funding for its Civil Rights and its Environment and Natural Resources divisions

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/314991-trump-team-prepares-dramatic-cuts


Trump team prepares dramatic cuts

Donald Trump is ready to take an ax to government spending.

Staffers for the Trump transition team have been meeting with career staff at the White House ahead of Friday’s presidential inauguration to outline their plans for shrinking the federal bureaucracy, The Hill has learned.

The changes they propose are dramatic.

The departments of Commerce and Energy would see major reductions in funding, with programs under their jurisdiction either being eliminated or transferred to other agencies. The departments of Transportation, Justice and State would see significant cuts and program eliminations.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting would be privatized, while the National Endowment for the Arts and National Endowment for the Humanities would be eliminated entirely.

Overall, the blueprint being used by Trump’s team would reduce federal spending by $10.5 trillion over 10 years.

The proposed cuts hew closely to a blueprint published last year by the conservative Heritage Foundation, a think tank that has helped staff the Trump transition.

Similar proposals have in the past won support from Republicans in the House and Senate, who believe they have an opportunity to truly tackle spending after years of warnings about the rising debt.

Many of the specific cuts were included in the 2017 budget adopted by the conservative Republican Study Committee (RSC), a caucus that represents a majority of House Republicans. The RSC budget plan would reduce federal spending by $8.6 trillion over the next decade.

Two members of Trump’s transition team are discussing the cuts at the White House budget office: Russ Vought, a former aide to Vice President-elect Mike Pence and the former executive director of the RSC, and John Gray, who previously worked for Pence, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) when Ryan headed the House Budget Committee.

Vought and Gray, who both worked for the Heritage Foundation, are laying the groundwork for the so-called skinny budget — a 175- to 200-page document that will spell out the main priorities of the incoming Trump administration, along with summary tables. That document is expected to come out within 45 days of Trump taking office.

The administration’s full budget, including appropriations language, supplementary materials and long-term analysis, is expected to be released toward the end of Trump’s first 100 days in office, or by mid- to late April.

Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.), Trump’s choice to head the Office of Management and Budget, has not yet weighed in on the proposed spending reforms because he is still awaiting confirmation by the Senate.

Mulvaney voted for the RSC budget offered as a more conservative alternative to the main House Republican budget in 2015. The House did not vote on the RSC budget for fiscal year 2017.

The preliminary proposals from the White House budget office will be shared with federal departments and agencies soon after Trump takes the oath of office Friday, and could provoke an angry backlash.

Trump’s Cabinet picks have yet to be apprised of the reforms, which would reduce resources within their agencies.

The budget offices of the various departments will have the chance to review the proposals, offer feedback and appeal for changes before the president’s budget goes to Congress.

It’s not clear whether Trump’s first budget will include reforms to Social Security or Medicare, two major drivers of the federal deficit.

Trump vowed during the campaign not to cut Medicare and Social Security, a pledge that Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), his pick to head the Department of Health and Human Services, told lawmakers in testimony Wednesday has not changed.

Yet it could be very difficult to reduce U.S. debt without tackling the entitlement programs. Conservative House budgets have repeatedly included reforms to Medicare and Social Security, arguing they are necessary to save the programs.

The presidential budget is important in setting policy and laying out the administration’s agenda, though Congress would be responsible for approving a federal budget and appropriating funds.

Moving Trump’s budget through Congress could be difficult. In 2015, with the GOP in control of the House, the RSC budget failed by a vote of 132 to 294.

Moderate Republicans and Democrats on the Appropriations Committee are likely to push back at some of the cuts being considered by Trump.

But they seem likely to have the support of Mulvaney, a conservative budget hawk who backed the RSC budget.

“Mick Mulvaney and his colleagues at the Republican Study Committee when they crafted budgets over the years, they were serious,” said a former congressional aide. “Mulvaney didn’t take this OMB position to just mind the store.”

“He wants to make significant, fundamental changes to the structure of the president’s budget, and I expect him to do that with Vought and Gray putting the meat on the bones,” the source added.

The Heritage blueprint used as a basis for Trump’s proposed cuts calls for eliminating several programs that conservatives label corporate welfare programs: the Minority Business Development Agency, the Economic Development Administration, the International Trade Administration and the Manufacturing Extension Partnership. The total savings from cutting these four programs would amount to nearly $900 million in 2017.

At the Department of Justice, the blueprint calls for eliminating the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services, Violence Against Women Grants and the Legal Services Corporation and for reducing funding for its Civil Rights and its Environment and Natural Resources divisions.

At the Department of Energy, it would roll back funding for nuclear physics and advanced scientific computing research to 2008 levels, eliminate the Office of Electricity, eliminate the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy and scrap the Office of Fossil Energy, which focuses on technologies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

Under the State Department’s jurisdiction, funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation, the Paris Climate Change Agreement and the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are candidates for elimination.

Conservatives allied with fiscal hawks such as Pence, Paul and the Heritage Foundation say the time is long past due to get serious about cutting the federal deficit.

“The Trump Administration needs to reform and cut spending dramatically, and targeting waste like the National Endowment for the Arts and National Endowment for the Humanities would be a good first step in showing that the Trump Administration is serious about radically reforming the federal budget,” said Brian Darling, a former aide to Paul and a former staffer at the Heritage Foundation.

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22. "Yall can stay if you want lol"
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28. "Where you going bruh? "
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29. "Wherever these job apps can take me for now"
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but if I could make the greatest vision in my mind come to fruition it would be in whatever country I establish a black owned and staffed resort and or learning academy for boys and girls

  

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25. "legit terrifying to me."
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24. "They're about to overstep their mandate... "
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It's gonna be interesting to see what happens when the Republicans remember that they have to run for reelection and they turn on Trump.


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26. "Some of these people are ruthlessly competent...."
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But are diametrically against the mission the department they have been chose to head.

These are not mistakes - they are going to finally roll back the progress made in this country since the 1910s.

What you are seeing a ideologues and zealots with the power to make things worse - and believe they will.

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47. "really, its a second gilded age"
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>These are not mistakes - they are going to finally roll back
>the progress made in this country since the 1910s.

  

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27. "I voted MAGA, because...aren't alot of these picks re-treads"
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I find it hilarisad that folks are getting up in arms about the Goldman Sachs ties

now

= ya'll haven't been paying attention

ironic there's a Obama haters post on the 1st page

alot of MFers didn't say shit about it then

and Trump is nominating alot of old guard guys...

= why ya'll now?

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30. "No, several of them have opposed the very dept they may run."
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Their careers have been antithetical to the position they're now holding. To say he's having the fox watch the henhouse is frighteningly appropriate for several of these cabinet posts.

  

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38. "all - several = a lot, you're welcome"
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I'm hoping several don't get confirmed

but my sentiment was, for the most part

he's cut and pasting from previous administrations

FOR THE MOST PART.

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42. "not close to for the most part"
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it's more madlibs than cut and paste

  

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41. "no, there's like 2 retreads"
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31. "RICK PERRY : GOTTEN TO!"
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33. "GOP can't lose. These folks will do terrible jobs and then they can say"
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see? the government sucks. Let's shrink it.


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35. "I dunno, this is a little too brazen... "
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And folks aren't inconvenienced by government as much as they've been straight up suffering and looking for relief. Add to that Trump flat out promised to solve these folks' problems and so they're looking at him to show some results or they're going to the pikes and pitchforks.

I don't know if there's as much room for duplicity with such a reactionary base that lacks the vision or the patience to let the political process work in the first place.



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43. "it's *been* working. it's not going to stop working unless"
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the opposition changes tactics

  

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50. "They never shrink govt. They cut a few entitlements"
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34. "Mitt Romney thinking he had a seat at the table "
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37. "He WOULD have"
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If he would have fallen in line.

He did not.

He was going to be the exception that they used to disprove the rule.

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48. "I'm not convinced he ever had a shot"
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Petty as Trump is, there's no way the guy who wasn't even running but put aside time for the sole purpose of getting on a podium and trashing him for 20 minutes was ever going to score a cabinet position, let alone the highest one. He probably could have issued a public apology and literally kissed the ring and he'd still be out.

the whole thing was just an alpha move

  

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53. "Imagine the satisfaction for Trump is Romney groveled"
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If Romney turned into Christie then Donald would have appointed his as Secretary of State or another high position and then made Romney's life hell for 4 years.

4 years of fucking with Romney would have been more attractive to Trump.

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58. "uh. trump clowned christie standing 1ft away from him. often."
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also trump has no idea what a secretary of state is



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36. "RE: Is anybody else downright frightened at these Trump cabinet pics?"
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This is how you initiate the piece-by-piece dismantling of the federal government. Appoint department heads who are opposed to the very existence of that department. Cut funding, phase them out, and then privatize everything. It's fucking appalling, and it's going to happen right before our eyes.

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44. "Part of me thinks that Trump really isn't picking most of these folks"
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I get the impression that Trump isn't really picking many of these Cabinet nominees but rather he is too lazy to give energy to finding good choices and is just letting Reince Priebus and other GOP hacks pick people.


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51. "Did Obama "pick" his cabinet in 2008? "
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i seem to remember a lot of folks being disappointed at the lack of diversity and a few Goldman Sachs retreads.

No one is draining the swamp in Washington.

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55. "mnuchin is the biggest gangster of them all"
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goldman sachs/alums are entrenched in pretty much every cabinet though.

  

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