Man alleges ageism after getting banned from Starbucks for asking teen barista on date
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SPOKANE, Wash. -- A 37-year-old man says he was banned from a Starbucks in Washington state after asking a 16-year-old barista out to dinner, CBS Spokane affiliate KREM reports.
The man, who was not identified by KREM since he has not been charged with a crime, said he was at Starbucks in Spokane last week and wrote a note asking out a barista.
“I was flirted with by a barista. For some reason she thought I was funny. Said I was funny. So I gave her a note to see if she’d be interested in dinner,” the man wrote in a Facebook post.
He said that when he went back the next day, a police officer told him he was banned from the Starbucks.
Spokane police said businesses are allowed to refuse service to people for as long as they see fit. But the man says he’s facing discrimination due to his age.
“I know the female Starbucks barista was of legal age to date,” the man said. “I broke no laws. I merely took a chance with my heart. I’m tired of hearing the word ‘creep’ as any black person or gay person is tired of hearing certain words. I have a whole webpage dedicated to age gap love.”
He asked his friends on Facebook to call Starbucks and complain -- but the request was met with opposition.
Many people took to the Spokane Starbucks’ Facebook page to praise the store for barring the man from the location.
“I have never been so proud to be a Starbucks customer!” one user wrote. “As a teen I had to deal with similar issues working in a restaurant as a hostess. It is an uncomfortable position no girl want to be put in. Thank you so much for supporting your employees.”
A Starbucks spokesperson said, “We have no tolerance for any such inappropriate behavior or harassment, and we will continue to support our store partners and local authorities investigating the situation.”
>Spokane police said businesses are allowed to refuse service >to people for as long as they see fit. But the man says he’s >facing discrimination due to his age. > >“I know the female Starbucks barista was of legal age to >date,” the man said. “I broke no laws. I merely took a >chance with my heart. I’m tired of hearing the word >‘creep’ as any black person or gay person is tired of >hearing certain words. I have a whole webpage dedicated to age >gap love.”
6. "His picture and information needs to be put on blast." In response to Reply # 0
And that lame ass, bizarro attempt at role-reversal/victim psycology/ equating racially charged language with being called a "creep" pisses me the fuck off.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Jan-03-17 06:29 AM
10. "Prolly why this post went wood " In response to Reply # 8
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Jan-03-17 09:04 AM
12. "Maybe they made a New Years resolution to be less skeevy?" In response to Reply # 11
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
15. "Underage teenage girls is Starbuck guys thing" In response to Reply # 14
If the JRennolds post was. "I only fucks with high school girls. Check out my page dedicated to older men and teenage girls" rather than some dude contemplating going on a date with a girl who is legal, it would have gone a bit different.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Jan-03-17 03:28 PM
19. "Isnt 16 legal in his state?" In response to Reply # 15
Seems like the other post had folks pointing that out as the only thing that mattered.
If it's illegal then sure, there is a difference but IMO it's too close to even call.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
24. "if you have to check state laws before taking your girl on vacation" In response to Reply # 19
she's underage. 18 is old enough to go to war. of coruse there's some level of creepiness to being over 30 dating an 18 yr old, but they are consenting adults.
And again, Older men with teenage girls is Starbuck guys thing, to the point that he's some kind of advocate for it. It's quite different than what was going on in that post
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Do you think this site is a safe space that gives cover to or excuses creep culture? And do I need to define any of those words?
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
32. "Old dude does something technically legal and he's to be lambasted" In response to Reply # 30 Tue Jan-03-17 04:12 PM by MEAT
Because he's a stranger at Starbucks. Folks here playing moral gymnastics to excuse their own technically legal ideas.
If you gonna not pretend the parallels aren't closer than parking spaces I can keep elaborating.
It's every few weeks that someone posts up a technically legal Instagram link and the responses are just as telling as a website that a creep references.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Jan-03-17 03:36 PM
23. "You think it's better to ask a bunch of strangers online if it's OK...." In response to Reply # 20
To date an 18 year old vs passing a note directly to a 16 year old?
and half of the responses online said just smash, don't date...
Both are wrong as fuck IMO.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
25. "Folks in here becoming willfully dense all of a sudden. " In response to Reply # 23
It was jokes when it's some grown ass man across the country passing notes to a "legal" teenager. But when it's folks here there's sudden blinders to the myriad of similarities
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Jan-03-17 04:51 PM
36. "it's ok until it's in the news" In response to Reply # 25
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
35. "I think he was trying to stunt more than genuinely ask ppl for advice." In response to Reply # 23
At any rate that backfired.
But regardless of that. Yes, I think there is a pretty big difference between consensually dating an 18 year and creeping out a 16-year-old service worker enough that they had to ban dude from her job.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Jan-03-17 04:59 PM
37. "it's always creepy if she isn't interested" In response to Reply # 35
or is it cool until it's not cool?
Just trying to understand when it becomes creepy.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
39. "The banning seems overboard" In response to Reply # 35
>At any rate that backfired. > >But regardless of that. Yes, I think there is a pretty big >difference between consensually dating an 18 year and creeping >out a 16-year-old service worker enough that they had to ban >dude from her job.
If he had a past of harassing young barista's at the store, I understand getting law enforcement involved.
Otherwise, initiating a creepy encounter isn't illegal. She could've ignored him the next day, another barista could've said "Leave her alone you creepy fuck" and it woulda been handled.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Wed Jan-04-17 08:03 PM
46. "He looks like he got bodies in the backyard" In response to Reply # 9
I see why they banned him.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Jan-03-17 03:30 PM
21. "dude said he broke no laws...." In response to Reply # 16
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
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