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Frank Longo
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"Queen of Katwe is a film that needs your support."


  

          

http://shadowandact.com/2016/09/23/review-mira-nairs-queen-of-katwe-is-disneyfied-black-girl-magic-opens-today/

If you haven't seen it yet, it's a warm and lovely film. But that's not why you should see it. Not by itself.

You should see it because Disney put up the money to make a film set in Africa. A film with an all-black cast-- not a white character to be found (the first in Disney history, if I'm not mistaken, and an exceedingly rare example among *any* major studios). A film with TWO black female leads, which, again, exceedingly rare among major studios.

People across the board acknowledge the problem with diversity in Hollywood still present today. Well, here's a film about black women with an all-black cast, directed by a woman of color, financed by a major studio. But money talks.

We're a couple of weeks into release and it's not doing well at the box office. To present a comparison, a lot of people have been speaking against Birth of a Nation, and it's *still* made more in its opening weekend than Queen of Katwe in its entire release to date. Birth of a Nation will make its money back. Queen of Katwe will not.

And Disney will believe that an all-black film about black women is not financially viable, regardless of what the film is about. They want *evidence*-- dollars in the pocket. And they've given us a terrific movie, so it'd be such a goddamn shame if that's the lesson that they take from this. But that's the way the industry still works, sadly.

I can't tell you how to spend your money. I've been tweeting about this film for the last two weeks, begging people to see it. Everyone I know who's seen it has found it to be a delightful film. I think if it made more money that Disney could've pushed Lupita Nyong'o and maybe even David Oyelowo in an Oscar campaign-- but if the film makes no money and no one sees it, then they won't give a shit and it'll slide through the awards season cracks like so many terrific films do.

I just really liked this movie, and I'd love to see more films like this. If you feel the same way, seek it out before it inevitably quickly leaves theaters. You've probably got a week. It's in 1000+ theaters now, so odds are it's playing somewhere near you. Go check it out, and bring your family. You'll be glad you did.

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All the black folk boycotting BOAN shoulda went and seen this
Oct 12th 2016
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All black female cast, set in Africa, about chess.
Oct 12th 2016
2
YEP
Oct 12th 2016
3
You're doing the most, right here.
Oct 13th 2016
16
      these fools got me heated again
Oct 13th 2016
17
It was really good, gonna see it again this weekend.
Oct 12th 2016
4
I actually thought that starting with limited release was smart.
Oct 12th 2016
5
taking the family this weekend
Oct 12th 2016
6
Pretty solid flick for the whole family & no white saviors!
Oct 12th 2016
7
Thanks I was considering
Oct 12th 2016
8
Its great. This should be up for Oscars towards the end of the year
Oct 12th 2016
9
i bought tix to this and walked into BOAN
Oct 12th 2016
10
^^underrated title^^
Oct 13th 2016
18
the marketing for this film was terrible/non-existent
Oct 12th 2016
11
I saw 2 or 3 commercials.
Oct 13th 2016
13
I have. Maybe all in all about 10 times over the last 2 months, or so.
Oct 13th 2016
14
I went to see this the day it opened....
Oct 13th 2016
12
How empty was the theatre?
Oct 13th 2016
15
I really enjoyed this movie.
Oct 16th 2016
19
I'll support more Black movies when they make shit I want to watch
Oct 16th 2016
20

legsdiamond
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1. "All the black folk boycotting BOAN shoulda went and seen this"
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But it's chess not checkers so...

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Buddy_Gilapagos
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2. "All black female cast, set in Africa, about chess. "
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I hope Disney doesn't see the poor box office from this and go "welp, this is why we can't make black movies".

Thanks for bringing attention to this. I've heard good things about it and will make an effort to see. Maybe try and take my nieces.

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lfresh
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Wed Oct-12-16 11:04 AM

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3. "YEP"
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but hey folks are distracted in the only black movie they care to see

figures

folks tell on themselves regularly
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soulpsychodelicyde
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Thu Oct-13-16 08:12 AM

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16. "You're doing the most, right here."
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C'mon.

  

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lfresh
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17. "these fools got me heated again"
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mainly up doing this to up the post though
lol
fuck them though
bunch of assholes
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no_i_cant_dance
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Wed Oct-12-16 11:21 AM

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4. "It was really good, gonna see it again this weekend. "
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Disney didn't really have much faith in it tho w/ the amount of initial screens + weak promo.

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Frank Longo
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Wed Oct-12-16 11:28 AM

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5. "I actually thought that starting with limited release was smart."
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Many studios do that with films they think won't make a big debut-- usually due to subject matter/lack of stars-- but could develop box office once word of mouth starts to spread. It's been successful for a lot of movies in the past.

The problem is that the per-screen averages for this weren't as high as you'd like to see when using that strategy. So instead of expanding to 2 or 3 thousand theaters, they went a little north of 1 thousand and waited. And I suppose are still waiting, as the numbers really aren't improving, sadly.

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jdub1313
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Wed Oct-12-16 11:37 AM

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6. "taking the family this weekend"
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5 tickets plus popcorn/drinks is about a hunna, but need to support.

the wife and i might catch BOAN, and we might not. i'm kinda indifferent on it now. my main concern was that i wanted it to be good and judging from the reviews i'm gonna have to see it for myself. shocker, lol.

  

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GOMEZ
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Wed Oct-12-16 12:17 PM

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7. "Pretty solid flick for the whole family & no white saviors!"
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In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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ToeJam
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8. "Thanks I was considering"
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BigReg
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9. "Its great. This should be up for Oscars towards the end of the year"
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one of the best ive seen this year

  

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Riot
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10. "i bought tix to this and walked into BOAN"
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might buy more tix and take my niece, if its still playing in a few weeks


but yea odd/sad the twitter warriors and outrage machine throwing darts at BOAN said not a peep abt this



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18. "^^underrated title^^"
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kayru99
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Wed Oct-12-16 11:42 PM

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11. "the marketing for this film was terrible/non-existent"
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I don't think i've seen a single ad, of *any* sort for this film.

  

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legsdiamond
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Thu Oct-13-16 07:33 AM

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13. "I saw 2 or 3 commercials. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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14. "I have. Maybe all in all about 10 times over the last 2 months, or so."
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12. "I went to see this the day it opened...."
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I loved it.

It may be a bit long for young kids to sit through, but I'd take them anyway...


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legsdiamond
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15. "How empty was the theatre? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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grape
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19. "I really enjoyed this movie."
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20. "I'll support more Black movies when they make shit I want to watch"
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I have no desire to see this flick. Make a movie I want to see and I'll be there. Until then I'm giving this flick the Tyler Perry treatment: Nope nevah evah.

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