This post inspired after seeing the DRAM/Uzi Vert posts - hip-hop is having a great youth movement right now. Lots of new names popping up in the past year or two

I don't certainly don't love all the music itself, but between Yachty, Uzi, Thug of course, DRAM, Anderson.Paak, Isiah Rashad, Vince Staples, Goldlink, Kevin Gates, 21 Savage, Coustin Stizz, Desiigner, Dave East etc etc etc there are several "new name" rappers who are getting a decent following (also shoutout to Yo Gotti and Young Dolph putting out well received projects)

Not to mention female rappers carving out their own thing - Young M.A., Dreezy, Kamaiyah, Noname

And also older acts having more autonomy on their new albums - projects from YG, Schoolboy, Pusha, Vic Mensa, Gucci, Travis Scott, Chance, even Rocky and Ferg didn't feel like they had much "forced for radio/commerical play" compared to projects past.

Idk, I'm really happy about the energy and newness surrounding the scene. Feels like hip-hop is in a good place right now. Anyone else feel the same way?

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As far as making noise you aren't going to find as eclectic amount of different types of rap music and sounds coming out. While the OG Golden era was great for pure mc ability, its not hard to make the comparison that theres a MUCH wider variety/different types of sounds in rap music today then there ever was back then.

Aesop Rock, Lif, Boosie, J-Zone. Scarface, De La. J-Zone had a tweet recently about how much he prefers working in the Spotify era compared to the early aughts

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Like it's always been a male dominated art form, but an old head like me can remember Latifah, Monie, Isis, Yo-Yo, Lyte, Eve, Lauryn, Queen Pen, Kim, Foxie and probably a few others getting mainstream love and fandom.

Seems like all the females now are on the fringes/underground and haven't blown. Now we have Nikki, and for a hot second Iggy and no one else really getting consistent guest spots or spotlight shine for herself.
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"To Each His Reach"

Noname, Kodie shane and Nina Tech killin em on the low right now.

*bites fist*

https://soundcloud.com/stefflon-don-1/lock-arrf-stefflon-don-section-boyz-remix

Not like there are any big up and coming R&B stars outside your regular borderline 8th photocopy of Janet/Aaliyah

that seems to be female dominated. Most of the dudes on the R&B charts are actually rappers or wannabe rappers and the orgs that compile it have basically mashed rap and r&b together.

But Jill, Mary, Rihanna, Beyonce, AverySunshine, Jazmine Sullivan, Kehlani are all holding it down for the past couple of years.

At the very least they are more of a presence in the pop/R&b than in hip-hop.
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"To Each His Reach"

Even someone like Jazmine's been in the game for approaching a decade.


Kehlani belongs to the current class of Aaliyah acolytes, but without the a current era Timbo/Soulaquarians/Puffy they dont seem to have the same staying power as unfortunately a Chris Brown or Jeremih. And they don't have a solid singer/songwriter like Miguel where they dont have to rely on external producers/writers.


>that seems to be female dominated. Most of the dudes on the
>R&B charts are actually rappers or wannabe rappers and the
>orgs that compile it have basically mashed rap and r&b
>together.
>
>But Jill, Mary, Rihanna, Beyonce, AverySunshine, Jazmine
>Sullivan, Kehlani are all holding it down for the past couple
>of years.
>
>At the very least they are more of a presence in the pop/R&b
>than in hip-hop.
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>"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
>-unknown
>
>"To Each His Reach"

>I don't certainly don't love all the music itself, but between
>Yachty, Uzi, Thug of course, DRAM, Anderson.Paak, Isiah
>Rashad, Vince Staples, Goldlink, Kevin Gates, 21 Savage,
>Coustin Stizz, Desiigner, Dave East etc etc etc there are
>several "new name" rappers who are getting a decent following
>(also shoutout to Yo Gotti and Young Dolph putting out well
>received projects)

hip hop is youth culture, there will always be fresh blood. but in 2016 most of the popular alternatives are shitty, substandard or a derivative of something shitty or substandard

Anderson Paak has album of the year to me, but he definitely isnt Hip Hop
Goldlink is in my top 5 presently active rappers as well

https://soundcloud.com/nipseyhussle/state-of-mind-ft-y2

Seems like today you have cliques and crews, but no true groups out here. Even more two man crews like Gangstarr, Mobb, PR&CL would be cool to see nowadays.
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"To Each His Reach"

$hit

?

IMO, I still don't hear barz

where the spitters at

cohesive projects, listenable albums, chart placement, etc...

that's all well and good

but I still don't hear the quotables

what verse from one of these young cats is going to blow me away

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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

>what verse from one of these young cats is going to blow me
>away
>
>?

what is the age cut off for this

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

"Yachty, Uzi, Thug of course, DRAM, Anderson.Paak, Isiah Rashad, Vince Staples, Goldlink, Kevin Gates, 21 Savage, Coustin Stizz, Desiigner, Dave East etc etc etc there are several "new name" rappers who are getting a decent following (also shoutout to Yo Gotti and Young Dolph putting out well received projects)

Not to mention female rappers carving out their own thing - Young M.A., Dreezy, Kamaiyah, Noname"

and new names

pick one from the list and refer me to their hottest barz

I'll let you know how excited I am about where hip hop is based on your reply

disclosure, Paak's album = one of the year's best, but obviously not an emcee

I heard the Isiah Rashad track with K. and plan on checking the project based on that

but there's a handful of names on that list that I'm not checking for

let me know

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and that goes for music/art in general

I have to be able to relate to it.

mumbling about cars and lean

= you missed me

putting together some ill wordplay with original similes and metaphors that display a deeper level of consciousness and critical thinking applied to your station in life

= I'm listening

in general

a talented emcee should be able to destroy the mic at will

IMO

anyway, this post isn't really about my opinion of what is and what isn't hip hop, blah blah blah...

post up the dopest track from any of the names given

and I'll let you know how excited I am about the current state/future of hip hop.

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it's also cadences, melodies, and prosody

now if the only thing you're interested in re: rapping is insane 90s/2000s type "bars" then that's one thing. that's fine. it's what you like. but just because you like it doesn't mean everyone else should. and it doesn't invalidate other styles of rapping where the focus is not on "bars"

rapping has expanded into more musical territory than the previously mentioned eras and that's what the kids today are focusing on. they aren't interested in blowing listener's minds with compound rhymes and potent similes. they want to ride the beat as well as they can and complement the instrumental with their rapping. and riding the beat these days is different from the past because the tempo and drum patterns are so different. there's more space for the rapper to work with and the instrumentals are generally more expressive compared to "bars" beats. it just takes a different kind of skill

Right, and again that's not what I said

K. can spit

All that melody rid the beat etc...is BS

Yall making me excuses for mediocre shit

There are artists that can do alladat

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mentioned a year or era of rap.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

IDK

I thought somebody would post some hot hip hop in here

Instead they want to write graphs rationalizing mediocre BS and tell me it's hip hop

I guess the future is melodic dumb shit over ill time signatures

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>All that melody rid the beat etc...is BS

"riding the beat is BS." i've officially heard it all

have fun in your time capsule

That is, hip hop always had all of those elements you listed

+ content

You trying to convince yourself or me, IDK

That it's okay to not have content today because the beats are some complex, or it's such a high level of skill to mumble rap with auto tune in double time...

That's what's BS IMO

IRT Drake

We've established these acts are teams nowadays

So off top, miss me with so and so is so talented because they rode a beat

...btw, feel free to post a link anytime you feel...

Is it too much to ask that one of the writers actually contribute substance?

C'mon

Yall calling the BS that's been posted so far hip hop is the problem

Trap

Mumble rap

Etc...

Call it that so I know not to check into the post.

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people lay out their case, trying to convince you of something, and you just stand on your imagined moral high ground, wave your hand dismissively, and say, "next"

but i'm stubborn and need the mental exercise

>That is, hip hop always had all of those elements you listed

i agree. they just aren't valued as highly as they are now

>+ content

i disagree. plenty of great rap songs out there with no-to-minimal "content" (i assume you mean meaningful lyrics)

here's one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRNT_t0-miQ

>You trying to convince yourself or me, IDK

i'm trying to convince you. i know what i like about modern rap

>That it's okay to not have content today because the beats are
>some complex, or it's such a high level of skill to mumble rap
>with auto tune in double time...

it's always been ok to not have content. see: the hundreds of great club/party/let's do drugs/sex rap songs from all eras of rap

and for the record the raps aren't in double time. they are pretty standard eighth notes and eighth note triplets over 120-144 bpm instrumentals that have snares only hitting on the 3 count. they just sound like double time because of the placement of the snare. and it's not easy to rap over those beats. there is a lot of space to consider, the snare is kind of meaningless, you generally have to leave the 1 count blank as a breather or use it as an exclamation point on the previous bar, there is a lot happening rhythmically with the instrumental that you have to be aware of because rapping against the grain will be very noticeable, etc.

>That's what's BS IMO

i get this. ideally all songs would have some kind of underlying meaning or message that the listener could benefit from. however that's just not practical

>IRT Drake

why are you bringing this up?

>We've established these acts are teams nowadays

what?

>So off top, miss me with so and so is so talented because they
>rode a beat

riding a beat well is fundamental to rap. if you can't ride a beat then you can't rap

here's someone doing it poorly over a traditional beat:
https://youtu.be/xdcBfj_EBuU?t=2m11s

he refuses to respect the instrumentation and just raps in boring eighth notes for some other beat that may or not be playing in his head as he raps this. this is a terrible performance


here is someone rapping poorly over a trap beat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeYVwmOZgxo

he's way ahead of the beat, uses a repetitive cadence, and he also doesn't respect the instrumentation. also a terrible performance


now here is someone rapping well over a trap beat:
https://youtu.be/pgBWelhhxmY?t=35s

he's in the pocket, works WITH the instrumental, rapping around and over the sounds in order to accentuate them, and occasionally leaving a lot of space for the beat to breathe. he uses long notes when singing, and very short staccato notes when rapping. that's contrast. this contrast is further enhanced by the fact that he establishes the singing/rapping phrases early in the verse by doing one or the other for multiple bars then puts them closer together (meaning in back-to-back bars or even the same bar) starting at 1:01

this is a good rap performance in a strictly musical sense. of course he's not saying anything meaningful and the rhyming/rhyme structure is poor but he's not trying to do either of those things because he doesn't value them and he knows that the listener doesn't value them. what is valued most highly is the musicality of the rapping and how it blends with the instrumental

>...btw, feel free to post a link anytime you feel...
>
>Is it too much to ask that one of the writers actually
>contribute substance?

maybe. not every artist has public enemy aspirations. some rappers just want to make music for people to dance to. some don't

here's a young rapper rapping about something over a trap beat:

https://youtu.be/G9QHHXwaNuA?t=6m53

note the variety of rhythms, the rhyme schemes, the leitmotif found at the end of each verse, and the fact that the verses are from opposing points of view

>C'mon
>
>Yall calling the BS that's been posted so far hip hop is the
>problem

THIS is the problem. you aren't the hip hop police. no one is. rap has moved beyond the ideals of the past and is doing something different. that's a good thing. i can't believe a fan of rap music would want it to do the same thing for 30+ years and wither away into stagnant obscurity. that's not progress. music should be constantly evolving

>Trap
>
>Mumble rap

another tidbit: they aren't mumbling. it's extreme slant rhyming combined with dropped consonants at the ends of words. it's a southern thing and it seems like every new rapper is southern or using southern rap techniques

>Etc...
>
>Call it that so I know not to check into the post.

then why the fuck are you all up in this one? you're not the torch holder for the forgotten ideals of the rap of yore, man. you're just some asshole on the internet like everyone else

yeah, we definitely not hearing the same thing

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i honestly pity you a little. you're missing out really great music right now. i hope someday you come around to it

you can save your pity fam, it's not that serious

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>now if the only thing you're interested in re: rapping is
>insane 90s/2000s type "bars" then that's one thing. that's
>fine. it's what you like. but just because you like it
>doesn't mean everyone else should. and it doesn't invalidate
>other styles of rapping where the focus is not on "bars"

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

Instead of deflecting from the topic, you could just post an example.

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If you're looking for 80s and 90s style "barz", you aren't going to find it in most of these artists anyways.

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>If you're looking for 80s and 90s style "barz", you aren't
>going to find it in most of these artists anyways.

You're adding words I didn't say.

In your opinion, the best verse, song, whatever you want it to be...

from the names given

GO

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There's a lot of names there. Put a few in the YouTube search bar and click on the first results. It isn't that hard

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but ok.

a few of my favs from the names listed:

uzi vert:

with my crew: https://soundcloud.com/liluzivert/12-wit-my-crew-x-1987-produced-by-fki

lil boat:

keep swimming: https://soundcloud.com/770rd/intro-just-keep-swimming-prod-burberry-perry-1

and

not my bro: https://soundcloud.com/770rd/not-my-bro-prod-ducko-mcfli

vince:

war ready w/ dre 3000: https://soundcloud.com/vince-staples-official/war-ready

im tired of copying and pasting links now.

its okay if you don't like this shit.

Damn, that shouldn't have been that hard

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I get that these new kids aren't spitting that Kendrick heat but damn...

wtf were they so scared of? lol

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

But I can see why there weren't any examples so far

Kwesi tried, and I appreciate it

but c'mon

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and I see why they didn't link shit up cause these dudes aren't rapping.

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Sir Jon Lee - https://soundcloud.com/sirjonlee

Quentin Miller - https://soundcloud.com/quentinmiller/going-back-prod-nickxmiles

Jace - https://soundcloud.com/two-9/jace-eastside-jace-prod-by-chuck-inglish

Noname - https://soundcloud.com/noname/all-i-need-feat-spzrkt

Kinfolk - https://soundcloud.com/azureee/newkinfolk-ft-dayvid-michael-1-oak

Remy Banks - https://soundcloud.com/worldsfair/remy-banks-q44-feat-aap-twelvyprod-by-p-on-the-boards

Wiki - https://soundcloud.com/wikset/14-crib-tax

Migos - https://soundcloud.com/alan-the-chemist/jabroni-feat-migos-mac-miller

J. Stalin - https://soundcloud.com/empire/j-stalin-selling-crack-1

Robb Bank$ - https://soundcloud.com/robbbanks/on-me

Goldlink & sugg Savage - https://soundcloud.com/ciscero-breh/na-na-na-feat-goldlink-and-sugg-savage

Chaz French - https://soundcloud.com/chazfrench/the-vent-1

as much as yall hate the Migos - https://soundcloud.com/migosatl/commando-prod-by-og-parker-x-deko

That it.

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Dude already stated he hates this type of music. Why should I waste my time hand selecting stuff and trying to convince him otherwise?

It's not like he had nothing to work with. There were a handful of names in the OP that he could have sampled from if he wanted to test them out for himself

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

cuz he doesn't like that type of music. plus these dudes aint rappin to be your favorite rapper's favorite rapper. so they're not coming with bars on some 90s densely worded, 8 min track.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Vince is cool with me, not a huge fan but I did check his previous project

The others, I can see the reason for the deflection

Mumble rap about cars and lean

w/o auto tune those are just singers who can't sing

From the op I was expecting different.

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besides Vince Staples that shit was hot garbo...

that shit isn't even rap tho... not sure what it is but that is not rap music.

I can see why kids like it tho.. its just mumbling over beats and it's easy to sing along to but nah...

not for me.

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Jay IDK - God Said Trap: https://soundcloud.com/jayidk1/god-said-trap-king-trappy-iii-prd-by-gamebrand-jay-idk-skhyehutch?in=jayidk1/sets/jay-idk-subtrap

Mick Jenkins - Drowning: https://soundcloud.com/redbullsoundselect/mick-jenkins-drowning-feat-badbadnotgood

Chance the Rapper (feat Young Thug and Lil Yachty) - Mixtape: https://soundcloud.com/chancetherapper/mixtape-feat-young-thug-lil-yachty?in=chancetherapper/sets/coloring-book

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https://youtu.be/kqnXZUqDbSc

Montana of 300 - Panda Remix: https://youtu.be/DV8CiRlVTkU

Chance and Mick: https://soundcloud.com/dailyhiphopsounds/grownasskid

PNB Rock - No Time: https://soundcloud.com/pnbrock/pnb-rock-no-time?in=pnbrock/sets/rnb-3

Vince Staples - All Nite: https://youtu.be/8zGVJaFwOyo

Travis Scott & Kendrick - Goosebumps: https://soundcloud.com/hood_rap/travis-scott-goosebumps-ft-kendrick-lamar

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Wasn't too crazy about the follow up ep

But the badbadnotgood jawn is a good look.

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ain't nothing new there

an emcee freestyling over the roc beat drinking hen, smoking blunts, and trying to look tough

LOL

only thing new is a bitch calling bitches bitches

LOL, c'mon

thanks for the Grown Ass Kid post though

Mick's verse on there is almost worth this post

I can rock with Vince, that jawn goes

+1 is Travis Scott an emcee?

serious question

I been heard antidote, obviously

I wouldn't put him in a hip hop post

another can't sing w/o autotune singer, IMO.

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>ain't nothing new there
>
>an emcee freestyling over the roc beat drinking hen, smoking
>blunts, and trying to look tough
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>LOL
>
>only thing new is a bitch calling bitches bitches
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>LOL, c'mon

i just posted songs i liked and thought were ill. not groundbreaking.

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>thanks for the Grown Ass Kid post though
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>Mick's verse on there is almost worth this post
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>I can rock with Vince, that jawn goes

both of those are fire. check out Jay IDK's first project too. he just dropped a new one i havent heard yet, but he came out the gate with a concept project that actually worked.

>+1 is Travis Scott an emcee?
>
>serious question
>
>I been heard antidote, obviously
>
>I wouldn't put him in a hip hop post

even if he's not a rapper, he and his music is clearly hip-hop. i dont think that's debatable.

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smfh

y'all dont know what hip hop is...

none of this shit y'all listed is hip hop

thats the problem...just call it something else

if you dont have a DJ the shit aint hip hop

point blank

lil yachty is hip hop? lol...FOH

uzi vert says he wont rap over a gang starr beat (which some would consider the EPITOME of hip hop beatmaking) and its hip hop smfh

JUST CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE ALREADY DAYUM

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

>pick one from the list and refer me to their hottest barz
>

This is my personal favorite song of his:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiR4pC1foNQ
(that whole Shyne Coldchain album is flames)

He has the last verse on this song and kinda
steals the show... quite a feat next to Earl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FcDXL5Aw0o

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There is a lot of good music and ideas out.

but there is not a GREAT music... classic "feeling" music that we reminisce about from 90s

Lot of great singles though definitely

we are back in the 60s in my opinion just for Hip Hop

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i love the wave these kids are on and doin it themselves and bringin new energy to the scene.

I'm almost totally unmoved by any of what I'm hearing, but that's ok. I had my time and I treasure it amd will continue to listen to the older music more or less exclusively.

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