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Ron Burgandy
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Thu Aug-25-16 01:35 PM

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"I think I'm done with theroot.com"


  

          

This is one of the dumbest pieces I've read in a while and frankly this type of attitude would lead to less diversity in Hollywood....

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2016/08/no-zendaya-in-spider-man-homecoming-is-not-the-progress-were-looking-for/

You stay classy okayplayer!!

  

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you do realize that's half of a point-counterpoint deal right?
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RE: you do realize that's half of a point-counterpoint deal right?
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uhhh, but you do realize this IS part of the plan
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RE: uhhh, but you do realize this IS part of the plan
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      if we limited think-pieces to only those worthy....
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the movie has just started filming
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I kinda agree with the article
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There's a good point about the roles that WOC are cast into
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in superhoero movies that just women in general
Aug 25th 2016
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hes right
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Selah
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Thu Aug-25-16 03:20 PM

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1. "you do realize that's half of a point-counterpoint deal right?"
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http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2016/08/yes-zendaya-in-spider-man-is-the-mary-jane-we-all-hope-for/

the quality of the writing in totality notwithstanding, what is your issue with what was said?

i agree that taking traditionally a white characters and making them black (or the reverse) isn't as cool as developing NEW well rounded characters of color. i agree that its lazy to do it that way, and that we shouldn't trip over ourselves to celebrate when that happens

i agree that it's bass-ackward for us to get mad at "whitewashing" characters (all the voice actors in an animated movie about minority being white for example) but boogaloo when it happens in our "positive" direction

  

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Ron Burgandy
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Thu Aug-25-16 03:27 PM

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2. "RE: you do realize that's half of a point-counterpoint deal right?"
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We can agree that developing new characters would be ideal and also not celebrating when they race bend characters. But I also think there is no reason to complain about Zendaya getting the part....I don't recall seeing the production company using this as a marketing tactic to drive Black people to the theater to support this film. Why can it not be that she earned the part based on her talent and not the production company pandering to minority viewers???

You stay classy okayplayer!!

  

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legsdiamond
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Thu Aug-25-16 03:28 PM

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4. "uhhh, but you do realize this IS part of the plan"
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to get more black seats in the theater

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Ron Burgandy
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Thu Aug-25-16 03:31 PM

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5. "RE: uhhh, but you do realize this IS part of the plan"
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Even if that's the case, is this worthy of a think piece? We want representation on the big screen and when we get it people still complain....I agree we shouldn't go out and "boogaloo" either but this is really nothing to bitch about.

If anything it's counterproductive and will cause production companies to say screw it and continue with business as usual.

You stay classy okayplayer!!

  

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Selah
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Thu Aug-25-16 04:05 PM

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8. "if we limited think-pieces to only those worthy...."
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Thu Aug-25-16 04:06 PM by Selah

          

there would be very little internet left

did you check the response-record post?

THAT is just as bad

so....

if your real point is you only want quality content, then yeah - you prolly *should* stop reading theroot.com, then okayplayer.com, then....

  

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Selah
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Thu Aug-25-16 03:41 PM

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7. "the movie has just started filming"
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>....I don't recall seeing the production
>company using this as a marketing tactic to drive Black people
>to the theater to support this film.

this is marvel getting ahead by dropping unconfirmed rumors to see how folks will react

>Why can it not be that
>she earned the part based on her talent and not the production
>company pandering to minority viewers???

it could be that theoretically (she won off her talent), however we have a track record of this type of behavior being exactly that (pandering)

  

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legsdiamond
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3. "I kinda agree with the article"
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I would prefer if she was his new love interest.

I remember the fast and furious broad being mad at black actors "stealing" white roles when changing popular white characters to black ones.

I didn't agree but i think it was mostly her wording. Made it sound like white actors were struggling for roles.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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flipnile
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Thu Aug-25-16 03:36 PM

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6. "There's a good point about the roles that WOC are cast into"
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Almost always the "love interest" of the white man that's the lead of the show.


  

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Selah
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Thu Aug-25-16 04:07 PM

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9. "in superhoero movies that just women in general"
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except, so far, for amanda waller and wonderwoman (the latter of which will have HER lover-sidekick too..eat THAT dudes )

  

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Brotha Sun
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Thu Aug-25-16 05:56 PM

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10. "hes right"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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