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murph71
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"Trump names new campaign manager (hair on fire---SWIPE)"


          



So it looks like the news of his campaign manager Paul Manafort being on the Ukraine's dark money payroll to the tune of $12 million (he's being investigated by Ukraine campaign officials) was giving off too much heat....Captain Cheeto also just posted a WE ARE THE WORLD statement on Facebook to push back on his campaign's own internal polling that the public largely views him as racist.....

Yep, nothing to see here....

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Donald Trump shakes up campaign team
The struggling GOP nominee names a new campaign manager and CEO.

By Matthew Nussbaum and Kenneth P. Vogel
08/17/16 04:07 AM EDT


Donald Trump, whose presidential bid has been stumbling badly in recent weeks, is reshuffling his campaign’s senior leadership.

The Republican nominee tapped pollster Kellyanne Conway as campaign manager and Breitbart News Chairman Stephen Bannon as campaign chief executive, Conway confirmed to POLITICO early Wednesday morning.


The news was first reported by the Wall Street Journal.

Trump told the paper "I want to win” and "That's why I'm bringing on fantastic people who know how to win and love to win."

Campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who had been effectively running the campaign for the past two months, will stay on in his current position.

But the shakeup seems to represent a diminution of his authority at a time when Trump's campaign is sliding in polls versus Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, and has been badly damaged by a string of controversies stemming from Trump's own impolitic pronouncements.

Manafort, a veteran of several GOP presidential campaigns, had been brought aboard in late March to professionalize a shoestring campaign operation run by relative neophytes and powered largely by Trump's dominance of the news cycle through social media and mega-rallies.

Manafort emerged victorious from a power struggle with former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who was fired in June, but the Trump operation never came to resemble a traditional presidential campaign.

Manafort's associates privately conceded in recent weeks that he'd grown frustrated with his futile effort to instill message discipline in the candidate. And this week, things got harder for Manafort with a series of damaging stories about his past work for pro-Russian Ukrainian politicians and oligarchs.

Conway, who has long served as a pollster for Trump's running mate Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, has been working with the Trump campaign since July.

Conway described the campaign overhaul as an "expansion" of the existing team rather than a shakeup. She noted that Rick Gates, a close ally of Manafort, would be remaining in his role as a senior aide to the campaign.

"Rick is fabulous and he and Paul have built a solid operation,” she said in an email. The “expansion to accelerate our reach with just weeks to go.”

Bannon has been quietly advising people around the Trump campaign for months, sources around the campaign tell POLITICO.

While he has no apparent campaign experience, Bannon is nonetheless considered influential in conservative politics because of his ties to the Mercer family of mega-donors and his perch atop the conservative Breitbart News, which has been supportive of Trump’s campaign.


link: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-campaign-manager-kellyanne-conway-227097

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Bringing a Breitbart exec closer will surely calm the tire fire of hatre...
Aug 17th 2016
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RE: Bringing a Breitbart exec closer will surely calm the tire fire of h...
Aug 17th 2016
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      There's gonna be so many great books that come out of this
Aug 17th 2016
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      it makes zero sense. He already has the Breitbart crowd
Aug 18th 2016
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           Race war. Charlie Manson 2.0 stuff.
Aug 19th 2016
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What's his endgame? He doesn't listen so new hires are moot
Aug 17th 2016
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these are decisions from a guy who doesn't want to win
Aug 17th 2016
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RE: What's his endgame? He doesn't listen so new hires are moot
Aug 17th 2016
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This is all a money grab
Aug 17th 2016
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      RE: This is all a money grab
Aug 17th 2016
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      shit.. this makes perfect sense.
Aug 17th 2016
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      Shit. That's absolutely perfect
Aug 17th 2016
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      Yo give me six numbers any six will do
Aug 17th 2016
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Hilldawg LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 17th 2016
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the debates are gonna be EPIC lol.
Aug 17th 2016
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RE: the debates are gonna be EPIC lol.
Aug 17th 2016
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      Honestly, Clinton should be the one ducking debates
Aug 17th 2016
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      Yes and no. You right that at this point Clinton has nothing to lose
Aug 17th 2016
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      thrs so much ammo to use against him itll be like goin fishg in a bucket
Aug 17th 2016
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      cant wait to see her dusting her shoulder's off
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      RE: Honestly, Clinton should be the one ducking debates
Aug 17th 2016
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      Honestly, Clinton should be the one ducking debates
Aug 17th 2016
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           RE: Honestly, Clinton should be the one ducking debates
Aug 17th 2016
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lmao
Aug 17th 2016
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but the bathroom debate is really important
Aug 17th 2016
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RE: lmao
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Every past nominee of either party would kill to have the cakewalk
Aug 17th 2016
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winning this easy should set off alarms
Aug 17th 2016
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      ^ the wokest.
Aug 17th 2016
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      Lol. I'm not even on a conspiracy theory tip.
Aug 17th 2016
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      if it makes you feel any better, she's going to have a tough term.
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           No doubt. I've been saying the winner of this election will be a
Aug 17th 2016
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                i don't necessarily agree.
Aug 17th 2016
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                Lol, why can't you just discuss the topic without the needless
Aug 17th 2016
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                     i have no idea whether either candidate is going to be a one-termer.
Aug 17th 2016
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                          Oh, ok.
Aug 17th 2016
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                the GOP is a fucking disaster.. donald fucking trump is THEIR candidate....
Aug 17th 2016
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                     20 years of one party in the White House is not happening.
Aug 17th 2016
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      winters coming
Aug 17th 2016
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      bLAH blah and fucking blah nigga
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           i never ever said he will win, I said I was afraid he could win
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Kellyanne Conway is an insufferable hag
Aug 17th 2016
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What polls? Says who?
Aug 17th 2016
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RE: What polls? Says who?
Aug 17th 2016
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lol
Aug 17th 2016
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this brianna lady getting all the good clips
Aug 21st 2016
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      RE: this brianna lady getting all the good clips
Aug 22nd 2016
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Jill Stein/Ajama Baraka...CNN Green Party Town Hall...
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RE: Jill Stein/Ajama Baraka...CNN Green Party Town Hall...
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RE: Jill Stein/Ajama Baraka...CNN Green Party Town Hall...
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i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here
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      RE: i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here
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           but they should get to the point where they're a political party
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           Meaningless
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                there's quite a large gap between where their leaders are now
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                     I'm not implying
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                          i don't know what your original quibble was
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                               This
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           RE: i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here
Aug 17th 2016
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                RE: i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here
Aug 17th 2016
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                     RE: i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here
Aug 17th 2016
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Jill Stein tv/radio spots crack me up
Aug 17th 2016
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Green Party/left of center voters deserve better than Stein
Aug 17th 2016
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Jill Stein is tied with Harambe the Gorilla and losing to Deez Nuts
Aug 18th 2016
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      this is exactly what i was saying too.
Aug 18th 2016
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CNN:Clinton has narrow lead in new Pew Poll
Aug 19th 2016
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RE: CNN:Clinton has narrow lead in new Pew Poll
Aug 19th 2016
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Nate Silver: Clinton: 86.8 percent...Trump: 14 percent (Swipe)
Aug 19th 2016
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It's going to be interesting how the dems deal with 2017
Aug 19th 2016
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It was up to 89% a couple days ago.
Aug 19th 2016
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Ftr Obama won Nevada in 2008 and '12
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RE: Ftr Obama won Nevada in 2008 and '12
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It could be 99 and i still won't be comfortable till this shit is over
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      ^^^^
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      it was over 6 months ago family...yall think i was jus woofing??
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           Dude, in 3 months I'll be happy to go on about how right you were
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Manafort official resigns. I can't wait to watch the surrogates spin lol...
Aug 19th 2016
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worst campaign ever
Aug 19th 2016
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She would have had to work to beat Kasich. She would have dusted Cruz
Aug 19th 2016
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      RE: She would have had to work to beat Kasich. She would have dusted Cru...
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      I disagree with Cruz being less electable than Trump.
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           ^^^cruz wouldn't have said a tenth of the goofy shit trump has said
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           Policy-wise, he's as bad as, if not worse than Trump
Aug 19th 2016
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           RE: I disagree with Cruz being less electable than Trump.
Aug 19th 2016
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           Would probably be the lowest election turn out ever
Aug 19th 2016
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           U guys really don't seem to be grasping how much ppl hate HRC
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           Cruz is also hated by independents.
Aug 19th 2016
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           Im guessing Cruz would be behind or even with HRC in AZ, UT, and
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                He'd likely be losing in all swing states
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           RE: U guys really don't seem to be grasping how much ppl hate HRC
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           by party elites. As I said lol. Polls showing he's hated by the GOP
Aug 19th 2016
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                RE: by party elites. As I said lol. Polls showing he's hated by the GOP
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           Nah we get that. Problem is nobody likes Cruz. and Cruz hates the middle
Aug 19th 2016
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                I'm not talking about trump supporters. Follow along. I'm talking about
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                     Yeah, we just disagree
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                          If you're disagreeing with Cruz would be doing better in az, ut, and ga
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                               RE: If you're disagreeing with Cruz would be doing better in az, ut, and...
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                               LOL good job arguing with something no one said
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                                    this exchange is hilarious
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                                    thought i was still tripping
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           republicans been through goldwater 3.1 and goldwater 95 and goldwater xp
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           He's physically repellent. Plus everyone who knows him hates him
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is it me or did Edwards and Ryan have more a presence than
Aug 19th 2016
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Both candidates pick boring VP candidates on purpose
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      RE: Both candidates pick boring VP candidates on purpose
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      they woulda been the difference between begrudgingly casting your
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           VP picks are always strategic. A VP isn't gonna vitalize a campaign
Aug 22nd 2016
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                Yuuup. Palin got picked because McCain was suspect among conservatives
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"HEY BLACK PEOPLE, what do you have to lose?"
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stfu. damn.
Aug 22nd 2016
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of all the post to up..smh
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it's pretty funny to read through
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people were so sure..
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      LANDSLIDE
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           (c)LAbeathustlah
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                I had little faith in white America after 8 years of Obama
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this post took an interesting turn though
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B9
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1. "Bringing a Breitbart exec closer will surely calm the tire fire of hatre..."
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NOPE. This shit is about to get into warp-speed "off the rails" mode. Hold on to your butts.

  

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murph71
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2. "RE: Bringing a Breitbart exec closer will surely calm the tire fire of h..."
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>NOPE. This shit is about to get into warp-speed "off the
>rails" mode. Hold on to your butts.


It's wild...The Breitbart hire is NUTS when u really think about it...

Trump basically is saying I'M GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE CRAZY...ON THE ALTERNATIVE RIGHT CONSPIRACY THEORIES.....

Between this and Trump "unofficially" bringing on Roger Ailes to help him prep for the debates (think about THAT for one minute...The candidate that's beyond under the water with women in the polls is putting on the man who was engaged in a string of sexual harassment accusations and suits at FOX).

U can't make any of this shit up....

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3. "There's gonna be so many great books that come out of this"
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>Trump basically is saying I'M GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE
>CRAZY...ON THE ALTERNATIVE RIGHT CONSPIRACY THEORIES.....

Insider 'You don't know how off the wheels this was' shit, how dog whistle politics started hitting human frequencies, lol.

  

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57. "it makes zero sense. He already has the Breitbart crowd"
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I really can't figure out even one way this could help him.

  

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62. "Race war. Charlie Manson 2.0 stuff. "
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4. "What's his endgame? He doesn't listen so new hires are moot"
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So switching up the team is a moot point unless its 'Turn this shit into gold' after he's gaffed.

Even the Roger Ailes hire made no sense; Trump has mastered the right wing media game...there is no more level ups he can pull off with the Foxnews crowd because he's already at Super Saiyen level with them.

When Foxnews used to throw as many jabs as MSNBC six months ago looking at the front page now it's all HILARY HILARY HILARY with no negative trump mentions.

It's everyone else he needs to pull into the vortex and he seems not to care. Is it just to feed his ego...apparently he loves the crowds and the rhetoric is why they are there for. Is scorched earth; trying to leave the Repubs and possibly the Dems (all that steal election shit) being forced to deal with new paradigms when running for national office?

I figure he would just kinda keep the show afloat at a respectable crazy level and then blame the dems for stealing thus saving face...his recent moves make no sense.

  

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6. "these are decisions from a guy who doesn't want to win"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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7. "RE: What's his endgame? He doesn't listen so new hires are moot"
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> Is it just to feed his ego...apparently he
>loves the crowds and the rhetoric is why they are there for.


This ^^^^^^

It's all an Ego Trip......

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18. "This is all a money grab"
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Breitbart + Trump + Ailes= "new" media outlet waiting in the wings after the election, which will "expose" and attack Hillary 24-7.

Might even be a TV channel, to the right of Fox (imagine that)

They're gonna get all that teabagger/Bundy/Oregon militia/duck dynasty/alt-right/white nationalist/stormfront/david duke money. ALL of it. And make Hillary's life a living hell.

  

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murph71
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19. "RE: This is all a money grab"
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>Breitbart + Trump + Ailes= "new" media outlet waiting in the
>wings after the election, which will "expose" and attack
>Hillary 24-7.
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>Might even be a TV channel, to the right of Fox (imagine that)


The TRUMP TV channel is already being discussed.....

Great post, btw.....

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21. "shit.. this makes perfect sense. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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24. "Shit. That's absolutely perfect"
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Good call.

  

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36. "Yo give me six numbers any six will do "
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Nice forecast

  

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5. "Hilldawg LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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hell she might even carry TExas...only 6 pts down at the moment..that would be like 3 grand slams in one game...

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8. "the debates are gonna be EPIC lol."
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9. "RE: the debates are gonna be EPIC lol."
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If they even happen...Trump is shook. Dude trying to find EVERY excuse not to debate....lol

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10. "Honestly, Clinton should be the one ducking debates"
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She really has nothing to gain from them. No one is going to watch her debate and change their mind.

Trump, on the other hand, has everything to gain. He can use the debates to either act an ass and try to destroy Clinton with his insults/attacks. Or he can do his best presidential impersonation to sway those Republicans who are most concerned about temperament.

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12. "Yes and no. You right that at this point Clinton has nothing to lose"
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but Clinton's a pro at this shit and the risk is low for her..how many times she had to sit in front of a bunch of Republicans talk shit to her face about what a shitty person she is and have to answer questions about her husband's penis. Trump ain't gonna have her frazzled like the amateurs on stage during the RNC runoffs.

TRUMP, on the other hand...The odds of him saying something off cuff and it playing horribly in real time are good . Its her chance to help bury him if he tries a presidential pivot and another Clinton scandal gets traction. I can see why she wants it, even though she could just play defense until the end.

  

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13. "thrs so much ammo to use against him itll be like goin fishg in a bucket"
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15. "cant wait to see her dusting her shoulder's off"
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while trump is talking

shit, the only reason i'm watching the debates is to see a complete utter meltdown
although at this point i cant stand to hear trump's voice
i immediately turn the volume to moot. i can barely stand to see the man (without wanting to throw up)
but for the debates, i will overcome my revulsion just to see what levels of stupidity will be reached

how low america has sunk

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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16. "RE: Honestly, Clinton should be the one ducking debates"
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Nah...Ducking debates is bad news for ANY candidate...

Clinton is playing this just right....While Trump was crying to the media about how the debate rules were unfair, Hilldawg was on some, I'M READY TO DEBATE. I ACCEPT ALL THE TERMS.

Besides, if Clinton were to follow your advice she would end up looking like Bush 1, who tried his best to avoid debating Bill Clinton, who he more often than not was leading in the poll...

Hilldawg don't want to end up looking like Papa Bush:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-10-05/news/1992279038_1_chicken-costume-original-chicken-chicken-george

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11. "Honestly, Clinton should be the one ducking debates"
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She really has nothing to gain from them. No one is going to watch her debate and change their mind.

Trump, on the other hand, has everything to gain. He can use the debates to either act an ass and try to destroy Clinton with his insults/attacks. Or he can do his best presidential impersonation to sway those Republicans who are most concerned about temperament.

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17. "RE: Honestly, Clinton should be the one ducking debates"
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>She really has nothing to gain from them. No one is going to
>watch her debate and change their mind.


lol...She has EVERYTHING to gain....It's not about making anyone change their mind on Clinton. It's about burying Trump....What Clinton is trying to do is show why Trump is a danger to the Oval Office...That he is temperamentally unfit....

U think Clinton is trying to sway Trump voters? ......It's not that simple...

She's going for those suburban moms and college educated whites (who she is already leading in the polls with). More importantly, she wants to give Trump the opportunity to play himself in front of millions of traditional Republicans....

Remember, Republicans writing someone else's name on the ballot or just staying home is just as powerful as some GOPer's flipping to Clinton....

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14. "lmao"
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what's crazy is that we wouldn't even know about this shit if he weren't trump's campaign manager. 4 years into a war and in Ukraine, hostile annex from russia and significant electoral meddling from US officials, not to mention thousands killed and there still hasn't been one good hour long in depth treatment of the situation by any of our 24 hour news channels.

  

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22. "but the bathroom debate is really important"
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110. "RE: lmao"
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20. "Every past nominee of either party would kill to have the cakewalk"
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Hillary's about to have. Even Reagan's 1984 landslide couldn't have been this easy for him.

I used to think it would wind up close, but it's been obvious since the Khan thing that it won't be.

In fact, I sort of feel like this isn't right. Winning the general election of the presidency shouldn't be this easy. It's not even really about her, anymore. It's basically Trump vs. The Media, at this point.

  

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23. "winning this easy should set off alarms"
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I have a feeling we are about to double down on some wars...

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25. "^ the wokest."
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https://joeyscazzola.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/hillarysatan.jpg?w=616

fuck you.

  

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26. "Lol. I'm not even on a conspiracy theory tip."
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I just think winning this way, almost by default, is something she should not feel....happy?, good? about. Or have any kind of pride in it. But I get it, she's wanted to be president since forever, so those cognitive dissidents (c) Stacey Dash won't bother her but so much, but still.

If I were her there'd be a sliver of me that would be pissed off at Donald Trump for turning my victory into a circus shitshow.

  

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27. "if it makes you feel any better, she's going to have a tough term."
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she'll face an obstructionist Congress like Obama and since she will have won after such a farcical election the obstructionists will feel like they have some duty to challenge everything she does. so she might get it even worse than Obama.

fuck you.

  

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28. "No doubt. I've been saying the winner of this election will be a "
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one-term president. The 2020 election will be more consequential and tone-setting for the mid-to-longterm future than this one. This realignment that we're going through will probably be alot more stark and better understood in 4 years' time than it is now.

  

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29. "i don't necessarily agree."
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but - sure. if that makes it easier for u to sleep at night then right on.

fuck you.

  

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30. "Lol, why can't you just discuss the topic without the needless "
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snarky mustard? This is just a regular election discussion.

And for the record, a good fap session with the help of shesfreaky.com at 11:45 PM makes me sleep like a baby afterwards.

  

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31. "i have no idea whether either candidate is going to be a one-termer."
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i'm not interested in discussing it b/c i find that kind of shit pretty boring. i don't want to play armchair politico. i'm not a policy wonk nor a wannabe-cable-news-talking-head.

so i'd rather make fun of you ppl and your discussion.

feel free to ignore it.

fuck you.

  

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32. "Oh, ok."
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38. "the GOP is a fucking disaster.. donald fucking trump is THEIR candidate...."
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Hilldawg getting two terms and the next prez will be latino after that... this shit aint no puzzle

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39. "20 years of one party in the White House is not happening."
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Actually, no. This realignment that's happening will mean that the GOP and the Democratic Party as we understand them today won't mean the same thing in the future. The near future. That Bernie revolution was not some random one-off fluke. The Bernie Bros are going to represent what the Democratic Party used to represent. So you might be right, there might be a Democrat in office for the next 4 cycles, but the real election will be at the primary level, and there will be real ideological differences between the major Democratic candidates (neoliberals vs. social democrats/leftist populists, etc.) Sort of like when one conference is superior to the other and teh real championship happens before the Super Bowl/World Series/NBA Finals.

You're dreaming if you think we're going to have 20 years of blissful, coherent, unified one-party rule. Even if one party does win continually, it will still effectively feel like a two or three party system with all the bitter contentiousness that goes along with that.

  

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33. "winters coming "
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m5Cj7-XCo8

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34. "bLAH blah and fucking blah nigga"
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you was leading the way with trump gon win or he could win...or its gonna be close....lmao..yall niggas...WRONG...blah blah blah..i been told u niggas from the git...aint no puzzle...hilldawg landslide....

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37. "i never ever said he will win, I said I was afraid he could win"
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but it def looks like he isnt trying to win.

I wouldnt be surprised at al if either happened.

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35. "Kellyanne Conway is an insufferable hag"
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good luck with that

  

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40. "What polls? Says who?"
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https://youtu.be/bd_GOEMz3og

  

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41. "RE: What polls? Says who?"
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That was GREAT.....

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42. "lol"
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I'm just so incredibly relieved. I'm not even following this shit anymore.

  

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104. "this brianna lady getting all the good clips"
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"white. we checked" lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBD6-hNTLFE

  

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105. "RE: this brianna lady getting all the good clips"
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Wtf at the burning car comment, first thing he thinks of? Really?

  

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43. "Jill Stein/Ajama Baraka...CNN Green Party Town Hall..."
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Watching this reminds me that It would be cool if the Green Party was actually running folks the public could take seriously. We need to break up that DEM/GOP tug of war....

Instead we got Stein, the anti-VAX-er and Baraka being asked about his past comments calling Obama an "Uncle Tom President....

Baraka said he stands by his statement, BTW...Nice...

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44. "RE: Jill Stein/Ajama Baraka...CNN Green Party Town Hall..."
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>
>Watching this reminds me that It would be cool if the Green
>Party was actually running folks the public could take
>seriously. We need to break up that DEM/GOP tug of war....
>
>Instead we got Stein, the anti-VAX-er and Baraka being asked

http://www.snopes.com/is-green-party-candidate-jill-stein-anti-vaccine/

>about his past comments calling Obama an "Uncle Tom
>President....
>
>Baraka said he stands by his statement, BTW...Nice...

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45. "RE: Jill Stein/Ajama Baraka...CNN Green Party Town Hall..."
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>Props to Baraka

uh huh....

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47. "i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here"
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and there's a lot i admire about the party, stein, and baraka

but at a certain point they aren't doing anyone any favors by refusing to budge on the bullshit, especially by doubling down when they're challenged on it....and at the expense of the framing/issues that they really can lead on.

they need to take a hard look in the mirror, because the libertarians had a BATSHIT convention and sport a BATSHIT wing among their membership. yet they tend to stay the course and have a solid/young core of sane people who swear by their flawed ideology. they're going to pick up more this cycle because gary johnson ain't gonna fuck it up.

the greens can't even get to that point. and it's a tragedy.

  

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48. "RE: i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here"
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>they need to take a hard look in the mirror, because the
>libertarians had a BATSHIT convention and sport a BATSHIT wing
>among their membership. yet they tend to stay the course and
>have a solid/young core of sane people who swear by their
>flawed ideology. they're going to pick up more this cycle
>because gary johnson ain't gonna fuck it up.
>
>the greens can't even get to that point. and it's a tragedy.


Hopefully the Greens will never get to a point where they are Republicans with a different name like the Libertarians.

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49. "but they should get to the point where they're a political party "
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....at least...that would be a good start

  

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53. "Meaningless"
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if they end up like Dems and Libs

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55. "there's quite a large gap between where their leaders are now"
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and the center right group you're implying they'd become by just *trying*

it isn't even a concern. environmental issues are important and people recognize that there's a lack of emphasis there in american politics, but the fucking *green* party can't get with the program. the houston convention was supposed to highlight some of that, but it was lost in the circus. the valley and gulf coast are fucking ready to talk about environmental/economic disasters because shit has been wrecking those regions recently. the valley in particular is also RIPE for leftist organizing because it's blue as fuck but the dems have given up on the state, so people aren't being represented. baraka has *excellent* points to make on every issue, but he can't resist sniping at political/intellectual celebrities. it's meaningless already.

BLM is a more relevant leftist movement than the greens and they're brand-new AND not a real party. the socialists (who have a loose, sometimes incoherent, organization in this country) have had just as much electoral success recently.

time for the greens to act like a party. selling out isn't something they have to worry about.

  

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58. "I'm not implying"
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>and the center right group you're implying they'd become by
>just *trying*

the Greens will become a center right group. I am saying if they follow the path that the Libertarians are on it would be a waste of time since they would become Dems with another name the same way Libs are Republicans with another name.

>it isn't even a concern. environmental issues are important
>and people recognize that there's a lack of emphasis there in
>american politics, but the fucking *green* party can't get
>with the program. the houston convention was supposed to
>highlight some of that, but it was lost in the circus. the
>valley and gulf coast are fucking ready to talk about
>environmental/economic disasters because shit has been
>wrecking those regions recently. the valley in particular is
>also RIPE for leftist organizing because it's blue as fuck but
>the dems have given up on the state, so people aren't being
>represented.

I agree


baraka has *excellent* points to make on every
>issue, but he can't resist sniping at political/intellectual
>celebrities. it's meaningless already.
>

It comes with the territory

>BLM is a more relevant leftist movement than the greens and
>they're brand-new AND not a real party. the socialists (who
>have a loose, sometimes incoherent, organization in this
>country) have had just as much electoral success recently.
>

True the Greens have work to do but the Lib is not the group they need to follow.

>time for the greens to act like a party. selling out isn't
>something they have to worry about.
>

Down the road it could be a problem

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59. "i don't know what your original quibble was"
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i obviously never meant that taking note of how the libertarians salvaged this cycle meant abandoning the green's platform or values.

i meant that the public image of the libertarian party is relatively strong right now because the candidates promote their party's values without amping up the volume of their fringes. stein has argued for positions that are both unpopular and unprogressive. it's extremely telling that they're not resonating when this country is ready to hear out viable leftist candidates.

  

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61. "This"
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"they need to take a hard look in the mirror, because the libertarians had a BATSHIT convention and sport a BATSHIT wing among their membership. yet they tend to stay the course and have a solid/young core of sane people who swear by their flawed ideology. they're going to pick up more this cycle because gary johnson ain't gonna fuck it up."

It comes across like you are downplaying how bad the Libertarians are, as you go after the Greens.


>i obviously never meant that taking note of how the
>libertarians salvaged this cycle meant abandoning the green's
>platform or values.
>
>i meant that the public image of the libertarian party is
>relatively strong right now because the candidates promote
>their party's values without amping up the volume of their
>fringes. stein has argued for positions that are both
>unpopular and unprogressive. it's extremely telling that
>they're not resonating when this country is ready to hear out
>viable leftist candidates.

The public image is strong because they are Republicans with another name. They didn't stop the fringes at the convention.

A few people are ready to hear viable leftist candidates, not that many.

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50. "RE: i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here"
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>Hopefully the Greens will never get to a point where they are
>Republicans with a different name like the Libertarians.


How about they get to the point where they don't come off as bat-shit crazy?

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52. "RE: i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here"
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What's sane about the Dems, Repubs or Libs ?

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54. "RE: i'd love for the greens to have solid ground here"
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Well for starters, they don't think that Wi-Fi waves may be bad for kid's brains....

Stein is kind of wacky....

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46. "Jill Stein tv/radio spots crack me up"
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She has that calming voice and her adds go something like:
"Donald Trump says mean things...
And Hillary Clinton? Shes a dishonest, warmongering, putrid cretin. She really is the scum of the earth. Theyre both bad. So why not consider an alternative..."

  

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51. "Green Party/left of center voters deserve better than Stein"
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Like, I'm not averse at all to voting for someone who's really liberal/progressive (especially as a Cali resident), but she's just a joke of a candidate.

Last nationally prominent Green Party candidate that was worth a damn was Peter Camejo.

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56. "Jill Stein is tied with Harambe the Gorilla and losing to Deez Nuts"
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no, really
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/291759-poll-jill-stein-tied-with-harambe-trailing-deez-nutz-in-texas

  

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60. "this is exactly what i was saying too. "
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they had a "convention" here. the issues in texas are obvious and the solutions align well with what the greens aspire to be.

there's an opportunity. but the green figureheads can't see out of their small circle to take it.

  

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63. "CNN:Clinton has narrow lead in new Pew Poll"
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how the fuck does she have a narrow lead? It's not like anything changed the last few days.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/18/politics/pew-research-center-poll-2016-election/index.html

Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton has a narrow nationwide lead against her Republican rival, Donald Trump, in a four-way match-up that includes third-party candidates, according to a new poll released Thursday.

The Pew Research Center survey finds that if the election were held today, 41% of those surveyed would support Clinton, 37% would support Trump, 10% would back Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson and 4% would back Green Party candidate Jill Stein.
Additionally, women surveyed back Clinton over Trump 49% to 30%, respectively, while men support Trump 45% to 33%.
Nevada poll: Clinton, Trump neck-and-neck

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66. "RE: CNN:Clinton has narrow lead in new Pew Poll"
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>how the fuck does she have a narrow lead? It's not like
>anything changed the last few days.


It's just Pew being Pew....They have always shown a tighter race between Clinton/Trump.....

It's best to just go by the individual state polls instead of the national ones.....Or Nate Dogg Silver will do....

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64. "Nate Silver: Clinton: 86.8 percent...Trump: 14 percent (Swipe)"
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Trump has now gone from 13.2 percent to 14 percent in the cumulative chances (from the polls) of who would win the election RIGHT NOW....The latest Pew poll bumped him up less than a percent.....(http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/)

In other words, I'm not going to say the homie LAbeathustla is right on target with his prediction that its going to be a blowout (Let's wait until after Labor Day), but it's getting close to night-night...

BTW....To put this entire race into perspective, the fact that's scaring Republicans isn't just one or many polls showing Clinton ahead...It's what states Clinton is doing well in...

Nevada (usually Republican): Clinton 42/Trump 40
Georgia (usually Republican): TIED
Arizona (usually Republican) TIED

These^^^are poll numbers that I never thought I'd see in my lifetime....

link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/az/arizona_trump_vs_clinton-5832.html

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65. "It's going to be interesting how the dems deal with 2017"
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Assuming its a blowout and the Trump factor gets them control of the senate. It's going to be obstructionist as fuck simply because the Repubs are going to be working for those congressional seats in the midterms.

Do they stay the progressive path, or do they go centrist in hops of pulling more rational repubs disgusted by what's been happening

  

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68. "It was up to 89% a couple days ago."
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I'm guessing the change was due to Georgia going from slightly leaning blue to slightly leaning red (though he has GA at close to 50/50 right now).

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69. "Ftr Obama won Nevada in 2008 and '12"
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73. "RE: Ftr Obama won Nevada in 2008 and '12"
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I meant Utah...my bad.....

There are polls showing Clinton ahead of Trump there....

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70. "It could be 99 and i still won't be comfortable till this shit is over"
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75. "^^^^ "
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79. "it was over 6 months ago family...yall think i was jus woofing??"
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85. "Dude, in 3 months I'll be happy to go on about how right you were"
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until then imma stay paranoid

  

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67. "Manafort official resigns. I can't wait to watch the surrogates spin lol..."
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Trump's flunkies spent the last few days arguing that this wasn't a "shake up", that they are just expanding the campaign team, and that Manafort still has his same high position within the campaign.

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/19/490621159/trump-campaign-chair-paul-manafort-resigns

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71. "worst campaign ever "
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Thank goodness cause Clinton would have had a rough go of it against kasich or Cruz

I can't wait for the debates to see trump absolutely lose it

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72. "She would have had to work to beat Kasich. She would have dusted Cruz"
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Cruz is less electable than Trump. She might not be keeping it as close in place like GA and possibly AZ, but she would have won all the other battleground states.

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74. "RE: She would have had to work to beat Kasich. She would have dusted Cru..."
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>Cruz is less electable than Trump. She might not be keeping
>it as close in place like GA and possibly AZ, but she would
>have won all the other battleground states.


Yep...To all this^^^^

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76. "I disagree with Cruz being less electable than Trump."
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People strongly dislike him, but his not repugnant like Trump. He at least has the demeanor and manner of a presidential candidate. Republicans wouldn't be jumping ship over Cruz. It would be easier for them to swallow their convictions and vote for an undesirable candidate.

He wouldn't win, but he'd get something close to Romney/McCain numbers vs Clinton

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77. "^^^cruz wouldn't have said a tenth of the goofy shit trump has said "
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Remember that polls were way closer until trump had a string of nutty shit starting with going after the Khans, none of that happens with Cruz

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80. "Policy-wise, he's as bad as, if not worse than Trump"
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I think I've said it before on here, policy-wise, Trump's ideas are like promising Condos on Mars by 2017: they're so ridiculous they aren't worth being taken seriously. A lot of the stuff Cruz proposes is just as repugnant and even more dangerous. He might not have Trump's temper or propensity for saying stupid shit, but his ideas are faaaaaaaaaaar to the right of anything that could be considered mainstream. Clinton would end up hammering him on that.

And while Cruz might not have engendered a #neverCruz movement in his own party, he's not very popular amongst the GOP leadership and his colleagues in Congress. You probably wouldn't get the "Republicans staying home" phenemenon, but I don't think he'd get McCain or Romney numbers. He'd be somewhere in the middle of their numbers and Trump's.

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82. "RE: I disagree with Cruz being less electable than Trump."
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Cruz is Barry Goldwater 2.0 just waiting to happen...LANDSLIDE.....

Too much of a social conservative...He's the guy known for shutting down the government...

Clinton would be up 6 to 10 points on him just like she is (at the moment) on Trump...And it could be argued that it would be worse because Trump has been able to get some of the non ideological voters who could care less about gay marriage and the like...

Cruz is poison...But I wish he would have won. He's much more consistent than Trump...

Kasich is the only one that would have beaten Clinton out of that clown car....

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86. "Would probably be the lowest election turn out ever"
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88. "U guys really don't seem to be grasping how much ppl hate HRC"
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Like I said above, trump going way down in the polls is a recent thing. He was neck and neck and even ahead after the GOP convention. Trump has BEEN repulsive and he still was basically tied with Clinton because republicans and independents hate her

Cruz wouldn't have said all the shit trump said and when ppl talk about GOPs hating Cruz they are talking about other elected officials and GOP insiders. I can't stand Cruz but I kno he would have ran a much tighter campaign.

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90. "Cruz is also hated by independents."
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Seriously, he plays solely to the religious right and radio show crazies. The Republicans ***might*** have been able to swollow their pride and vote for him, but he would have stunk with independents.

>Like I said above, trump going way down in the polls is a
>recent thing. He was neck and neck and even ahead after the
>GOP convention. Trump has BEEN repulsive and he still was
>basically tied with Clinton because republicans and
>independents hate her

Trump was only close for part of July; from when the FBI made their ruling to the convention. And it's debatable whether he really even received a convention bounce. It's also debatable if he was ever really ahead for those brief few days as well. The rest of the time, HRC was ahead.

>Cruz wouldn't have said all the shit trump said and when ppl
>talk about GOPs hating Cruz they are talking about other
>elected officials and GOP insiders. I can't stand Cruz but I
>kno he would have ran a much tighter campaign.

He wouldn't be a lose cannon, but he has a similarly repugnant personality (as said below, in the most boring way possible) and he would have gotten hammered on the issues.

I personally wish Cruz had won the nomination. It would have shown the GOP that running to the far right is a losing proposition. They're not going to learn anything if Trump loses.

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94. "Im guessing Cruz would be behind or even with HRC in AZ, UT, and "
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GA right now? According to y'all

Lol

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96. "He'd likely be losing in all swing states "
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And Trump will likely still win GA and AZ

Utah is a bit of a different phenomenon. Alot of Mormons are uncomfortable with him demonizing a religion, even if right now it's just Islam. Plus they love Mitt who's a nevertrumper

  

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91. "RE: U guys really don't seem to be grasping how much ppl hate HRC"
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Nah...it's not that at all...

We just know that Cruz is hated even more than Clinton...BY HIS OWN PARTY...lol....

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93. "by party elites. As I said lol. Polls showing he's hated by the GOP"
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Electorate? Did I imagine him winning primaries? The GOP electorate has shown they don't care about the opinions of the Washington elites

Cruz is regarded as a true conservative

Cruz for a fact would have Utah and Georgia locked up. Are any of you going to argue that point?

Yeah saying Cruz wouldn't be in a better position right now than trump is just quite...idiotic? Yeah that's the best word I can think of lol

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98. "RE: by party elites. As I said lol. Polls showing he's hated by the GOP"
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>Electorate? Did I imagine him winning primaries? The GOP
>electorate has shown they don't care about the opinions of the
>Washington elites



As someone else said better than me, the same people who love Trump within the electorate HATE Ted Cruz...To them he is just another slimy politician...

>Cruz is regarded as a true conservative

The GOP base don't care about that shit anymore...They look at Cruz and his kind as using them....Trump's ascendence was a big middle finger to the TRUE CONSERVATIVES....

>Cruz for a fact would have Utah and Georgia locked up. Are any
>of you going to argue that point?

He would win all the states Repugs usually win but lose all the Swing States....

>Yeah saying Cruz wouldn't be in a better position right now
>than trump is just quite...idiotic? Yeah that's the best word
>I can think of lol

Cruz is poison.....He presents an entirely different set of problems...His own party hates him, he's too much of a social conservative and he doesn't turn on the working class (like Trump...)

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92. "Nah we get that. Problem is nobody likes Cruz. and Cruz hates the middle"
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and Trump's appeal to his supporters is much bigger than he's not Hillary. They truly believe he's their voice. They believe in him on the same level as the rest of the country despises/fears him

Cruz is a true believing right wing nut who has no intention of moving to the middle. Once you put Cruz on the national stage, he'd turn most people off. Aside from policy, he's just hard on the senses all around. He'd get more establishment support (reluctantly), but hatred and mistrust of Hillary wont be enough. It would be enough for Kasich, or Ryan for sure. With Cruz, alot of people would just disengage.

  

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95. "I'm not talking about trump supporters. Follow along. I'm talking about "
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All the numerous GOPrs who were willing to swallow it and vote for him becuz they hate Clinton. I'm talking bout where the party was during their convention. before he withheld his endorsement of Ryan, McCain and ayotte and before he attacked the Khans. None of them wanted trump but he was the candidate against the hated HRC

Those ppl stay in place if trump doesn't make the gaffes of the last two weeks. Cruz wouldn't have made those gaffes so he woulda still had that "support". Millions of ppl on both sides will be holding their noses when they vote for president in November. The stink of trump just got to be too much, Cruz wouldn't have got that stinky lol

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97. "Yeah, we just disagree "
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No more circles necessary lol

  

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100. "If you're disagreeing with Cruz would be doing better in az, ut, and ga "
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Than trump. Then you're a lost cause lol. But there's a lot of ppl in this post who have no idea what they are talking about so ur in "good" company.

Toodles. This site is still wack I see.

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101. "RE: If you're disagreeing with Cruz would be doing better in az, ut, and..."
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Who said Cruz wouldn't do well or better than Trump in the states u named?

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102. "LOL good job arguing with something no one said"
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and clinging to some point that has little to do with your main point which was:
"Clinton would have had a rough go of it against kasich or Cruz"

when people pointed out what ways you were wrong about Cruz, and how Cruz would be losing in all swing states, suddenly your point became "but would Cruz be losing GA?!"

>Toodles. This site is still wack I see.

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103. "this exchange is hilarious"
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>and clinging to some point that has little to do with your
>main point which was:
>"Clinton would have had a rough go of it against kasich or
>Cruz"
>
>when people pointed out what ways you were wrong about Cruz,
>and how Cruz would be losing in all swing states, suddenly
>your point became "but would Cruz be losing GA?!"
>
>>Toodles. This site is still wack I see.
>
>Peace. don't forget your ball
>
>
>
lmao..

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106. "thought i was still tripping"
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89. "republicans been through goldwater 3.1 and goldwater 95 and goldwater xp"
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cruz wouldn't have lost on policies alone. just like they're not going to lose the house on policies, even though they're ridiculous policies.

if he lost it would have been because he ran a terrible campaign too. he goes rogue as much as trump, but always in a boring way.

  

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84. "He's physically repellent. Plus everyone who knows him hates him"
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Add someone almost equally upsetting to the senses in Carly Fiorina, while he woudln't say all the crazy shit Trump says, he doesn't have any energy behind him Trump has. He's only liked by evangelicals and talk radio hosts.

He'd probably make tranny bathrooms his number one issue. Followed by emails/benghazi, etc...

And while Cruz isn't necessarily unpopular among uneducated whites, still, compared to Trump he's just another Washington suit. These yokels have found their champion in Trump. I don't see Ted being able to harness that anger and nationalism on near a level that Trump has.

I think it would be a wash.

  

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78. "is it me or did Edwards and Ryan have more a presence than "
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Pence and Kaine? I kno Palin was obviously her own shit show/"star" but kaine and pence really seem to be non MF factors in this race. No one would really be able to take attention away from trump but I really feel like Castro or Warren would have been garnering way more attention and energy than kaine has...maybe that's the point tho. He probably helped her lock up VA tho

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81. "Both candidates pick boring VP candidates on purpose"
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Neither wanted to be out-shined in any way by their choice.

Warren or Castro wouldn't have done boosted HRC in any real significant way. You can't have two women on the ticket, and she would've completely outshined Clinton as a public speaker/attack dog. And while I thought Castro was going to end up as VP, they don't really need him to mobilize the Latino vote against Trump. If Cruz or Rubio was on the ticket, then he would be there. But Trump vileness sells itself to Latino voters.

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83. "RE: Both candidates pick boring VP candidates on purpose"
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>Neither wanted to be out-shined in any way by their choice.


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99. "they woulda been the difference between begrudgingly casting your"
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Vote versus excitingly casting your vote and getting 10-20 more people to get out and vote with u. Things work out a lot better when people are excited about the candidate. See 2008 election for reference

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108. "VP picks are always strategic. A VP isn't gonna vitalize a campaign"
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VP picks are always strategic to play against your perceived weaknesses; its why Biden was the textbook old white man when Obama made him the VP. Now we love him but before he was a cynical ass choice in '08

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/us/politics/24veep.html

Trump already has his base so going for someone thats more mainstream conservative was a no brainer.

Hilary's gonna do her numbers, good and bad, no matter what, so might as well get someone that's not a minority/not offensive so she can grab people running from the GOP train who cannot find themselves voting for Trump even if they hate hilary

  

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109. "Yuuup. Palin got picked because McCain was suspect among conservatives"
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and maybe to try to clip some of the pissed off hillary supporters. especially women

As a bonus, she added excitement because she had a crazy high approval rating as Gov at the time. On the surface she seemed like a great choice.

  

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87. ""HEY BLACK PEOPLE, what do you have to lose?""
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THAT is the epitome of Breitbart doublespeak, tacit racism. Fuck this fuck.

  

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107. "stfu. damn."
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here. watch this and stfu about Trump already. it's fucking over. sheesh.

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/22/12582836/donald-trump-john-oliver-last-week-tonight

fuck you.

  

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111. "of all the post to up..smh"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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112. "it's pretty funny to read through "
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114. "people were so sure.. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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115. "LANDSLIDE"
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116. "(c)LAbeathustlah"
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though we all hoped he was right

legs and denny were the only ones who really thought Trump could win

  

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117. "I had little faith in white America after 8 years of Obama"
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113. "this post took an interesting turn though"
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and it was before the debates so clearly most of us still had the mind of maybe she could win.

We still aren't totally clear on the role Manafort is playing in this. Clearly he was installed in the Trump campaign by the Russians but what was he doing while he was campaign chair?

  

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