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Mynoriti
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"RIP The Nightly Show :("


  

          

Can't say i ever had it as must-watch like Colbert, but I had grown to enjoy and appreciate it.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/business/media/comedy-central-cancels-larry-wilmores-late-night-show.html?_r=0

In the midst of a wild and unpredictable presidential campaign, Comedy Central is upending its late-night lineup and canceling Larry Wilmore’s show.

The final episode of Mr. Wilmore’s 11:30 p.m. “The Nightly Show With Larry Wilmore” will be Thursday, the network announced on Monday.

Kent Alterman, Comedy Central’s president, said he informed Mr. Wilmore of the news late last week. The move, he said in an interview, was made for a simple reason: the show “hasn’t resonated.”

“Even though we’ve given it a year and a half, we’ve been hoping against hope that it would start to click with our audience, but it hasn’t happened and we’ve haven’t seen evidence of it happening,” Mr. Alterman said.

The awkward timing of the cancellation, just 12 weeks before the election, ultimately came down to a contract, Mr. Alterman said. Mr. Wilmore’s deal, along with those of several of the show’s other staff members, was set to expire in a few weeks and the network had to decide now whether to renew or cancel.

For the time being, Comedy Central’s 12 a.m. show, “@midnight,” will replace “The Nightly Show” at 11:30 p.m. “The Daily Show” with Trevor Noah remains at 11 p.m. Mr. Alterman said he hoped to name a full-time replacement for “The Nightly Show” some time next year.

The cancellation makes Mr. Wilmore, 54, an early casualty of a television late-night comedy slate that has been vastly reordered over the last two years. With the retirement of David Letterman, Jay Leno and Jon Stewart, and Stephen Colbert’s move from Comedy Central to CBS, a series of new hosts have stepped into the spotlight, including James Corden, Samantha Bee and Mr. Noah. Jimmy Fallon, the host of “The Tonight Show,” has most formidably filled the power vacuum left by his predecessors, with the highest ratings of any late night show.

While Mr. Stewart was the host of “The Daily Show,” Mr. Wilmore became a fixture as the program’s “senior black correspondent,” offering wry observations on racial issues. In May 2014, Mr. Stewart tapped Mr. Wilmore to get his own show, and Mr. Wilmore formally became Mr. Colbert’s successor at Comedy Central’s 11:30 p.m. slot when “The Nightly Show” premiered in January 2015.

“The Nightly Show” has been known for a signature segment, “Keep It 100,” (slang for always telling the truth, no matter the consequences) and for Mr. Wilmore’s often stinging commentary on race and this year’s election. (He called the election to find Barack Obama’s successor “The Unblackening.”) Though the late-show genre remains heavy on easygoing laughter, any one episode of “The Nightly Show” could occasionally go for prolonged stretches without a single joke, something that intrigued some critics but failed to attract a broader audience.

“I’m really grateful to Comedy Central, Jon Stewart, and our fans to have had this opportunity,” Mr. Wilmore said in a statement. “But I’m also saddened and surprised we won’t be covering this crazy election or ‘The Unblackening’ as we’ve coined it. And keeping it 100, I guess I hadn’t counted on ‘The Unblackening’ happening to my time slot as well.”

The move by Comedy Central is also the first concession that the transition from Mr. Stewart and Mr. Colbert — both pioneers of a certain kind of political comedy as media criticism and social commentary — to Mr. Noah and Mr. Wilmore has not gone as smoothly as the network had hoped.

Though Mr. Alterman strongly defended Mr. Noah’s iteration of “The Daily Show” — next month will be his first anniversary as host — both Mr. Noah and Mr. Wilmore have significantly trailed their predecessors when it comes to ratings.

“The Daily Show” had an average of 2.1 million viewers a night in Mr. Stewart’s final year as host, while Mr. Noah’s audience has averaged 1.3 million, according to data from Nielsen. Critical praise has also been lacking for Mr. Noah; this year, for the first time in 16 years, “The Daily Show” was not nominated for an Emmy in the best variety show category.

But Mr. Wilmore’s ratings have fallen off even more significantly, and he has lost more than half the audience that he inherited. In Mr. Colbert’s final year as host of “The Colbert Report,” he had an average audience of 1.7 million viewers, but in Mr. Wilmore’s first year, that viewership fell to an average of 922,000 viewers, according to Nielsen. This year, the total has fallen to 776,000 viewers a night.

Likewise, in the demographic most important to Comedy Central — young men — he has not made a dent. In recent months, Mr. Wilmore has started even started losing to the show that’s on after his, “@midnight.”

Mr. Wilmore’s most visible role in the last year may have been his turn as host of the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner. But reviews for his act were decidedly mixed and the exposure did not result in a ratings bounce.

Mr. Alterman said that he had hoped that there would be a ratings surge — particularly around the political conventions — and that the decision to cancel “The Nightly Show” was a recent one.

“We were hoping that we would get a turnaround along the way including the wild, wild two weeks of the conventions.,” he said. “We just haven’t seen it on any level from the general conversation to ratings to any sort of traction on social media platforms.”

That stands in contrast, he said, to what the network has seen regarding Mr. Noah. Calling the perception that Mr. Noah is struggling “a myth,” Mr. Alterman pointed to the show’s strong performance on Hulu — though he is not allowed to disclose figures, he said.

Mr. Noah’s show is the No. 2 late-night show among young adults ages 18 to 34, Mr. Alterman said, and his ratings have grown among 18–to-24-year-old men. Mr. Alterman said he “couldn’t be happier” with Mr. Noah’s performance.

“In the last couple of weeks — leading up to the conventions and especially the conventions — we feel like Trevor got to a whole new level in terms of having a strong voice and point of view,” he said. “It’s been no surprise to us. We expected him to take time to find his rhythm and find his way.”

It’s unclear whether Mr. Wilmore will stay on with Comedy Central — “We haven’t even addressed that,” Mr. Alterman said — but he is involved in other projects. In addition to developing ABC’s Emmy-nominated comedy “black-ish,” he is an executive producer for HBO’s upcoming comedy “Insecure.”

  

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i skip The Daily Show and watch Wilmore, so for me this sucks.
Aug 15th 2016
1
Trevor grew on me. It took a while
Aug 15th 2016
2
      Trevor is bad but...
Aug 15th 2016
14
           Oliver's style might too much for every day
Aug 15th 2016
16
                basically Oliver and Bee were the best for carrying the torch....
Aug 16th 2016
25
"“@midnight,” will replace “The Nightly Show” "
Aug 15th 2016
3
I can't fuckin stand Chris Hardwick
Aug 15th 2016
7
      Me either
Aug 15th 2016
18
           i like the show but it's the ultimate in fluff
Aug 15th 2016
21
Shitty lead in did him in.....
Aug 15th 2016
4
Even though I didn't love the show, this is wack.
Aug 15th 2016
5
Jessica Williams for sure
Aug 15th 2016
9
      I felt like both Robin Thede and Grace Parra had settled in
Aug 15th 2016
22
It just wasn't very good.
Aug 15th 2016
6
not surprised...
Aug 15th 2016
8
I feel like they should have given him until the election.
Aug 15th 2016
10
he simply wasnt funny to me.... his keep it 100 bit was so corny
Aug 15th 2016
11
he doesnt seem like the type to say he keeps it 100.
Aug 15th 2016
13
This sucks but Im surprised it made it this far
Aug 15th 2016
12
No one was watching but it was good to have different guests on late nig...
Aug 15th 2016
15
shocked that noah is doing better/good enough. samantha bee took
Aug 15th 2016
17
It just wasn't funny
Aug 15th 2016
19
it was a great show that had issues with tone/segments
Aug 15th 2016
20
That show was seasonal like Summer Ale.
Aug 15th 2016
23
yo Larry, it's over my nigga
Aug 16th 2016
24
oh shit...lol
Aug 16th 2016
27
Sad I don't get to see Robin Thede anymore.
Aug 16th 2016
26
The fact that nobody posted about the final episode proves the point.
Aug 19th 2016
28

PROMO
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1. "i skip The Daily Show and watch Wilmore, so for me this sucks."
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i blame Comedy Central and Trevor Noah.

  

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2. "Trevor grew on me. It took a while"
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Stewart's Axelrod interview a couple months back reminded me he's still nowhere near Stewart's level, but I think his show has improved. I've even warmed up to most of his correspondents

I normally watch about 80% of Daily Show and 30-40 of Wilmore. Stewart/Colbert i never missed.

  

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14. "Trevor is bad but..."
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I know Comedy Central are mad as fuck they didn't get to sign John Oliver to take over the Daily Show.

I'm glad he's on HBO because his show is hilarious but her was the perfect fit to replace Stewart imo.

  

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Mynoriti
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16. "Oliver's style might too much for every day "
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Someone here compared his style to Lewis Black's, in that Oliver kind of talks AT you in a way. And I really love his HBO show but once a week is enough.

That said, I guess he'd be different in the Stewart/Noah role since it's the Daily show writing staff. He did great during Stewart's hiatus but I can't say I remember specifics

  

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25. "basically Oliver and Bee were the best for carrying the torch...."
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Trevor Noah's problem for me is that he gives everything a little too much respect. His congeniality needs to be dialed back...especially in an election year. Stewart's gift, to me, was that he was very good at calling someone out hilariously while coming off totally logical and correct. A lot of his reactions mimic our own somewhat.

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3. ""“@midnight,” will replace “The Nightly Show” ""
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7. "I can't fuckin stand Chris Hardwick"
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This is some bullshit.

  

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18. "Me either"
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I wish I knew when the vote for Geek King went down, because I woulda voted against him. Dude is trash

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21. "i like the show but it's the ultimate in fluff"
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there's no content at all there, and the guests that are truly witty enough to shine with their format seem to be popping up less and less frequently.

  

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4. "Shitty lead in did him in....."
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I figured it'd be difficult replacing Colbert AND Stewart at the same damn time essentially.....and I figured if there had to be a fall guy initially if the ratings dropped to far......it would be Wilmore.

  

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5. "Even though I didn't love the show, this is wack."
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Mon Aug-15-16 12:59 PM by Hitokiri

  

          

First Chocolate News (which was fucking hilarious and ahead of it's time), now I lose Robin Thede? Fuck this shit.


Larry was always a little too conservative for me like... he was liberal, but would still entertain notions like police being killed as comparable to black and brown folks be killed by police. And I hated him trying to be hip with shit like Keep It 100, and his rap hands.

But yet again, Comedy Central is willing to give a Black person a chance, but will cut them loose quick as hell...

And Trevor Noah is STILL wack to me.

Give Robin the show! Or even Franchesca Ramsey... Shit, give it to Jessica Williams like they should've done with the Daily Show.

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9. "Jessica Williams for sure"
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she's the shit

I can't say i was ever crazy about Robin Thede. Maybe I didn't see enough of her. I dunno

  

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22. "I felt like both Robin Thede and Grace Parra had settled in"
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with the way the show was going

it was the dudes who were falling off and basically giving up on making their on-screen time worth watching...but i don't mean it as harshly as that probably reads

  

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6. "It just wasn't very good."
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I stuck with it and watched it through the whole run but it became apparent pretty quickly that the show didn't have what it takes.

  

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8. "not surprised... "
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it wasn't funny.

and neither is Trevor

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10. "I feel like they should have given him until the election."
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That always seems like a signature moment for shows like his. After that, they could make their decision accordingly.

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11. "he simply wasnt funny to me.... his keep it 100 bit was so corny"
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13. "he doesnt seem like the type to say he keeps it 100."
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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12. "This sucks but Im surprised it made it this far"
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15. "No one was watching but it was good to have different guests on late nig..."
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Same think with W. Kamau Bell's FX show. It wasn't great but there's a type of guest who will get booked that won't ever be on The Daily Show

  

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17. "shocked that noah is doing better/good enough. samantha bee took"
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the crown

from what clips ive seen

all the rest dont have the jokes or the commentary



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19. "It just wasn't funny"
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If it was funny, people would've watched.

  

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20. "it was a great show that had issues with tone/segments"
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Mon Aug-15-16 06:39 PM by rob

  

          

but i watched every episode, even when i didn't check for the daily show, really will miss it. and i hope they all find more outlets for their voices.

a lot of the staff were trying to make jokes that didn't fit the topic or to cover when they didn't know what they were talking about, which is what real people do, but not interesting enough for late night. and they usually gave no fucks about relating to/deferring to the guest on the panel.

franchesca ramsey is a star and probably (even more than larry) the closest to striking the balance of what the show could have been.

  

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23. "That show was seasonal like Summer Ale."
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24. "yo Larry, it's over my nigga"
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27. "oh shit...lol"
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26. "Sad I don't get to see Robin Thede anymore."
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