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BigReg
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"Rednecks Rising: CNN Poll: Trump 44%, Clinton 39%"


  

          

Johnson (9%) and Jill Stein (3%)

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/index.html

All PRAISES DUE TO THE GOD KING, MEIN TRUMP.

  

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RE: Rednecks Rising: CNN Poll: Trump 44%, Clinton 39%
Jul 25th 2016
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stop being so wrong
Jul 25th 2016
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RE: stop being so wrong
Jul 25th 2016
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Yup. Still VERY problematic though
Jul 25th 2016
4
      I don't give a fuck if nobody else have healthcare
Jul 25th 2016
6
      Most Americans arent fans of Illegal immigration
Jul 25th 2016
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           but let OKP tell it. majority of Americans fighting FOR illegals to stay
Jul 25th 2016
34
      RE: Yup. Still VERY problematic though
Jul 25th 2016
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There's not enough noneducated whites for Trump to win (c) OKP
Jul 25th 2016
2
Folks in denial. Trump is reaching the angry white folks
Jul 25th 2016
5
You forgot won't take our Guns away and let gays in women bathrooms
Jul 25th 2016
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      That's Cruz. Trump loves the gays(c) and ain't care about bathrooms
Jul 25th 2016
11
           EXACTLY!!! Trump don't care so he making the states choose.
Jul 25th 2016
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                Texas don't matter though; it's always been insane + Repub stronghold
Jul 25th 2016
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                     lbj and anne richards were texans. so are the castro brothers.
Jul 25th 2016
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Real 'Merica has spoken for now but....
Jul 25th 2016
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You're black and vote & think as such
Jul 25th 2016
12
yeah, its not really about us tho...
Jul 25th 2016
19
let the chips fall where they may
Jul 25th 2016
10
When Clinton gets a bounce after the Democratic Convention....
Jul 25th 2016
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so if HRC does NOT get a post convention bounce, then what?
Jul 25th 2016
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      RE: so if HRC does NOT get a post convention bounce, then what?
Jul 25th 2016
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      I'm drinking a Tall Iced coconut milk macchiato
Jul 25th 2016
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           RE: I'm drinking a Tall Iced coconut milk macchiato
Jul 25th 2016
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                Why yall think I'm trolling because I hold an opposing view?
Jul 25th 2016
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                     bc you're too stupid to acknowledge strong points of opposing views
Jul 25th 2016
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                     OK. We'll see at Thanksgiving.
Jul 25th 2016
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                     RE: Why yall think I'm trolling because I hold an opposing view?
Jul 25th 2016
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      Debates+Advertising dollars will go a long way
Jul 25th 2016
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           Those ads wont work on Trump
Jul 25th 2016
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                Souljahboy TELLEM! Trump already cussed out the Pope
Jul 25th 2016
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                I think ads can work they just doing em wrong.
Jul 25th 2016
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                     ^^^^
Jul 25th 2016
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                     I roll my eyes every time I see a "Look at this proof Trump Lied" Story
Jul 25th 2016
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                     New York Businessman at a certain level = Having Russian Ties.
Jul 25th 2016
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                     the secret Demecrat is the way to go....
Jul 25th 2016
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                          After HRC/Bill was at his wedding and he's for gay marriage?
Jul 25th 2016
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                          Nah, Trump hurts Americans.
Jul 25th 2016
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                          way to go is to stop playing games and explain why dem policies are bett...
Jul 25th 2016
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USA! USA! USA!
Jul 25th 2016
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I'll be sipping lipton tea w/ kermit & bernie throughout the general
Jul 25th 2016
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sip on a beer like a real man - Dash
Jul 25th 2016
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exactly....Republicans were rejecting establishment more than anything.....
Jul 25th 2016
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DNC built an 8 ft wall around the convention... oh the irony
Jul 25th 2016
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Rednecks is a derogatory term so this post will get deleted
Jul 25th 2016
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oh shit... I hope they edit and dont ghost this thread
Jul 25th 2016
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Its been reclaimed. GET YOUR PEOPLE DEEJBORAM
Jul 25th 2016
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reading is fundamental...
Jul 25th 2016
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      Thanks for not dumping this post.
Jul 25th 2016
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      i for one am offended as hell
Jul 25th 2016
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      ya'll are a trip, i swear
Jul 25th 2016
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this is what i find disturbing
Jul 25th 2016
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they want their country back is what's going on
Jul 25th 2016
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AMERICA!!!!! Fuck YEAHHHHH!!!!
Jul 25th 2016
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We're still the same country who almost made Plain the VP, We still the
Jul 25th 2016
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lmao... if you hate Hillary, Blacks, illegals, NAFTA it was great conven...
Jul 25th 2016
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Revenge of the angry white man
Jul 25th 2016
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      yup...cosign word for word...
Jul 25th 2016
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      Read up above. I said the same shit. they said I'm trolling.
Jul 25th 2016
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           i peep'd...i said it in like 2 other post as well..it's not just 'Uneduc...
Jul 25th 2016
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           98% of white ppl HAAAATE BLM
Jul 25th 2016
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           bc u said far more than that
Jul 25th 2016
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      Was it "angry white men" who secured the Clinton firewall though?
Jul 25th 2016
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           angry white women
Jul 25th 2016
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           There are more poor white ppl than all blacks COMBINED
Jul 25th 2016
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           Ask yourself why Bernie wasn't able to connect with Latinos
Jul 25th 2016
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I do not *believe* these numbers
Jul 25th 2016
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*frowns* michael moore on 5-reasons-why-trump-will win
Jul 25th 2016
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all things we have been saying on here
Jul 25th 2016
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yea
Jul 25th 2016
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this has been the most well-balanced version of this
Jul 25th 2016
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for me? 5 is the 'hugest'
Jul 25th 2016
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Susan Sarandon got caught out there with that sentiment
Jul 25th 2016
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      yea, i really dont understand this sentiment
Jul 25th 2016
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1, 3 and 5
Jul 25th 2016
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co-sign to infinity
Jul 25th 2016
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Why are people talking about convention bump, like that's a good excuse....
Jul 25th 2016
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RE: Why are people talking about convention bump, like that's a good exc...
Jul 25th 2016
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Hilary needs to drop out
Jul 25th 2016
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Nate Silver now has Trump as more likely to win (link)
Jul 25th 2016
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whey ya at murph? (c) Future Fonzarelli
Jul 25th 2016
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tried to tell this place Clinton was a hard sell
Jul 25th 2016
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f*ck.
Jul 25th 2016
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Nate Siver is on point with most predictions too... this isnt good
Jul 25th 2016
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      i knowwwwwwww....hence my one word reply lol
Jul 25th 2016
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      calm down. it's too soon for predictions (c) murph
Jul 25th 2016
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      lmao
Jul 25th 2016
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      but during the dem primary he made 538 god
Jul 25th 2016
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      your in texas... Trump is winning there regardless
Jul 25th 2016
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      RE: lmao
Jul 25th 2016
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      It is. Nate said it himself right here:
Jul 25th 2016
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      RE: calm down. it's too soon for predictions (c) murph
Jul 25th 2016
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      nate went from almost 80-20 to 60-40 to this in less than a month
Jul 25th 2016
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           predictions are always a wild card with Trump...
Jul 25th 2016
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lol
Jul 25th 2016
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bruh, we all want Trump to lose....
Jul 25th 2016
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Anybody in Canada wanna wife a gently used moderator?
Jul 25th 2016
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lol
Jul 25th 2016
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haha
Jul 25th 2016
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Naturally, it's a non-adjusted poll
Jul 25th 2016
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RE: Naturally, it's a non-adjusted poll
Jul 25th 2016
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You write write for a living
Jul 25th 2016
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RE: Naturally, it's a non-adjusted poll
Jul 25th 2016
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You know that's not what he said right?
Jul 25th 2016
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      RE: You know that's not what he said right?
Jul 25th 2016
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just in case yall forgot...
Jul 25th 2016
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RE: just in case yall forgot...
Jul 25th 2016
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Lmao.. everyone knows this poll is for today and could change in a week
Jul 25th 2016
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Not that, but I'm a gotdamned STATISTICIAN
Jul 25th 2016
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what did you think about M. Moore's points?
Jul 25th 2016
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Fuzz the bullshit let's put some drinks on it.
Jul 25th 2016
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      Nigga, aint no way I'm betting on a presidential election
Jul 25th 2016
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good. murica deserves him
Jul 25th 2016
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So what happens if HRC doesn't get a Convetion Bump: She LOSES!
Jul 25th 2016
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let me go on record saying: Fu*k Bill, f*ck DWS, *uck HRC
Jul 25th 2016
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murph71
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1. "RE: Rednecks Rising: CNN Poll: Trump 44%, Clinton 39%"
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It's called a Convention Bounce.....

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deejboram
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3. "stop being so wrong"
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Shit is sickening
When trump wins what will be your excuse?

He already got the nom.
What's your excuse for that?

Your last name ain't Gallup

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murph71
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9. "RE: stop being so wrong"
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Let's end this silly back and forth. It's what's being reported....FROM CNN WHO TOOK THE FUCKING POLL.....Read it yourself....



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Donald Trump bounces into the lead

By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director
Updated 6:33 AM ET, Mon July 25, 2016

(CNN) The bounce is back.

Donald Trump comes out of his convention ahead of Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House, topping her 44% to 39% in a four-way matchup including Gary Johnson (9%) and Jill Stein (3%) and by three points in a two-way head-to-head, 48% to 45%. That latter finding represents a 6-point convention bounce for Trump, which are traditionally measured in two-way matchups.

There hasn't been a significant post-convention bounce in CNN's polling since 2000. That year Al Gore and George W. Bush both boosted their numbers by an identical 8 points post-convention before ultimately battling all the way to the Supreme Court.

The new findings mark Trump's best showing in a CNN/ORC Poll against Clinton since September 2015. Trump's new edge rests largely on increased support among independents, 43% of whom said that Trump's convention in Cleveland left them more likely to back him, while 41% were dissuaded. Pre-convention, independents split 34% Clinton to 31% Trump, with sizable numbers behind Johnson (22%) and Stein (10%). Now, 46% say they back Trump, 28% Clinton, 15% Johnson and 4% Stein.

The poll also reflects a sharpening of the education divide among whites that has been prevalent throughout the campaign. Among white voters with college degrees, Clinton actually gained ground compared with pre-convention results, going from an even 40% to 40% split to a 44% to 39% edge over Trump. That while Trump expanded his lead with white voters who do not hold a college degree from a 51% to 31% lead before the convention to a 62% to 23% lead now.
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Beyond boosting his overall support, Trump's favorability rating is also on the rise (46% of registered voters say they have a positive view, up from 39% pre-convention), while his advantage over Clinton on handling top issues climbs. He now holds double-digit margins over Clinton as more trusted on the economy and terrorism. Trump also cut into Clinton's edge on managing foreign policy (50% said they trusted her more, down from 57% pre-convention).

The convention also helped Trump make strides in his personal image. A majority (52%) now say Trump is running for president for the good of the country rather than personal gain, just 44% say the same about Clinton. He's increased the share who call him honest and trustworthy (from 38% to 43%), and who would be proud to have him as president (from 32% to 39%). And nearly half now say he's in touch with the problems ordinary Americans face in their daily lives (46% say so, 37% did before the convention).
Despite Democratic criticism of the Republican convention's message as divisive, the percentage who say Trump will unite the country rather than divide it has increased to 42%, compared with 34% pre-convention.

Clinton's ratings on these same measures took a hit, though in most cases her drop-off was not quite as large as Trump's gain. Perhaps most troubling for the Clinton supporters gathering in Philadelphia this week: 68% now say Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, her worst rating on that measure in CNN/ORC polling.
Those positives for Trump come despite some sharply negative reviews for the convention itself. Almost 6 in 10 (58%) said the Republican convention spent too much time attacking Democrats, and 18% called Trump's speech "terrible," the highest by far since CNN started began the question in 1996. Still, 40% called the speech excellent or good and about half of voters (45%) said Trump's speech reflected the way they feel about things in the U.S. today; 48% said it did not reflect their views.


The public rendered a split decision on whether the convention made them more or less likely to back Trump, 42% said more likely while 44% said less so, but the shift in voter preferences suggests the "more likely" side carried more weight. And most came away feeling ready to decide about Trump's fitness for the job: 78% say they already know enough to know whether he'd be a good president. Another 20% think they need more information.

Two prominent convention speakers saw their stock rise post-convention as well. Favorability ratings for Trump's wife, Melania, climbed from 27% pre-convention to 43% post-convention, despite news that her Monday night speech contained passages lifted from Michelle Obama's 2008 Democratic convention speech. Vice Presidential nominee Mike Pence, whose Wednesday speaking slot was largely overshadowed following Ted Cruz's defiant stand on the convention stage, also bolstered the electorate's impression of him, landing at a 39% favorable rating overall, up from 26% pre-convention.
10 takeaways from Donald Trump's Republican convention.

Cruz's move, however, appears to have backfired. While 60% of Republican voters had a positive impression of the former presidential candidate before the convention, just 33% have one now.

The Trump campaign has claimed the visceral negative reaction to Cruz reflected the unity the party feels behind Trump himself. But the poll suggests a large share of Republican voters still need to be won over. The share of Republicans who say their party is "united now" climbed from 16% pre-convention to 24% post-convention, but about half (49%) say it's not united now, but will be by November, and there are still about a quarter who say the party won't unite at all. Further, 45% continue to say they'd prefer someone other than Trump as the nominee.

The CNN/ORC Poll was conducted by telephone July 22-24 among a random national sample of 1,001 adults. Results for the sample of 882 registered voters have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

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4. "Yup. Still VERY problematic though"
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Since that's a sample amount supposedly representing that big a section of the american population. Whatever way we explain it; bigotry, simply stupidity, people voting for their perceived self interests while knowing they are fucking their fellow man...its scary as fuck

  

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6. "I don't give a fuck if nobody else have healthcare"
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As long as me and mine are safe.
That's a huge sentiment in America right now

Even on OKP lots of excuses being made

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27. "Most Americans arent fans of Illegal immigration"
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and a lot of Americans are on some protectionsim shit right now.


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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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34. "but let OKP tell it. majority of Americans fighting FOR illegals to stay"
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Most Americans don't want DACA or them other programs


Living amongst these folk will give you new perspextive.
And don't be fooled by closeted liberal racist in Cali

LoL I bet some white OKPS be voting in line with Republican views but they'll never admit it

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18. "RE: Yup. Still VERY problematic though"
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Mon Jul-25-16 08:51 AM by murph71

          

>Since that's a sample amount supposedly representing that big
>a section of the american population. Whatever way we explain
>it; bigotry, simply stupidity, people voting for their
>perceived self interests while knowing they are fucking their
>fellow man...its scary as fuck


Nothing scary about it at all....This is politics....Except for the Obama era (which got a 1 point bump or so), campaigns have usually received a bump post Party Conventions...(Kerry and Mitt Romney didn't receive any bump at all)......

Here is how its best to look at it....U can have a cardboard cutout of a Republican Presidential candidate and they will be spotted anywhere from 42 percent to 45 percent from the jump. Because that's just the reality of our politics today....We are a heavily polarized, ideological country. Dems vs. Repugs....

Following these national polls early on will make your head explode ....Do yourself a favor. Just stick to the state polls and save yourself the trouble....

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2. "There's not enough noneducated whites for Trump to win (c) OKP"
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5. "Folks in denial. Trump is reaching the angry white folks"
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Some one that will come in and clean this shit up. Stop the mexican illegals from invading their country, stop the muslim terrorist threat, get those negroes back in check and shut down the complaining-ass women.

  

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7. "You forgot won't take our Guns away and let gays in women bathrooms"
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Protect our American values

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11. "That's Cruz. Trump loves the gays(c) and ain't care about bathrooms"
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Even during the GNC it was confusing; anti-gay rhetoric did great, but whatever pro-gay messages they could sneak in got a decent applause as well.

Dude is as thinly athiest as they come; while its been painted that evangelicals "came around" to trump it comes off like they had to talk themselves into the the far right candidate out of hope.

  

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14. "EXACTLY!!! Trump don't care so he making the states choose."
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States rights.
That's what these mad white ppl want.
NC don't want the feds fucking with their right to deny trans into opposite gender bathrooms.

Folks in Texas want to be self/state governed.
That's it, that's all

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17. "Texas don't matter though; it's always been insane + Repub stronghold"
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>Folks in Texas want to be self/state governed.
>That's it, that's all

Texas is Florida but with better PR.

  

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89. "lbj and anne richards were texans. so are the castro brothers. "
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writing off whole states as crazy is why extremism is flourishing here. that's playing their game, and they're happy to double down.

dems can't be talking out of one side of their mouth about states going purple and then just let rick perry and greg abbot win massive votes from latinos and women.

  

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8. "Real 'Merica has spoken for now but...."
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How long will this lead hold once the debates start and independent voters demand substance? Hillary gets a bounce in points as well after the convention so keep that in mind. Not saying Trump's fascism cannot win because look at this poll but this is long-term battle.

Do you think America is doomed and want to return to the 50's when white men could ignore everyone's voice but theirs? Vote for Trump if that is the case. You support Putin's preferred candidate and betray all "make America great" code they talked during the convention last week.

Do you America is on the right track and want to improve everyone's lives avoiding failed economic policies of yesterday? Vote for Hillary if that is the case.

The DNC is going to be lit. RNC was like a funeral with fascism and Hitler salutes. DNC is going to be positive vibes and a party with actual policy discussion.

  

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12. "You're black and vote & think as such"
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You think a 50 year old white guy in Ohio thinks living the 1950s Leave It To Beaver / Andy Griffith lifestyle is such a bad thing?

Especially when you have Muslims trucking down folks in France and shooting up County Bldgs and night clubs in the USA?

When will yall realize these battleground states ain't as progressive or cosmopolitan as NY and CA.

It's a loooooooot of mad white ppl out here
LOTS

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19. "yeah, its not really about us tho... "
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as much as we dont want America to return to some 1950s shit half of America prolly wouldnt mind it and thats scary.

After 8 years of a Black family in the WH I kinda expected it. Politics these days is disgusting because the racism has people ignoring reality to justify their anger.

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10. "let the chips fall where they may"
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13. "When Clinton gets a bounce after the Democratic Convention...."
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Mon Jul-25-16 08:16 AM by murph71

          


....There will be the hardcore Hilldawg crew throwing parades and saying I TOLD U SO just like the GOP is doing now...And they will both be wrong...

General polling and convention bumps mean as much as a 3 dollar bill....

State by state polling is what everyone should be paying attention to as well as demographic polling....This pissing contest going both ways is pretty silly....

People will drive themselves nuts jumping from poll to poll this early on...lol

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15. "so if HRC does NOT get a post convention bounce, then what?"
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She doomed?

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22. "RE: so if HRC does NOT get a post convention bounce, then what?"
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She will receive one...They mostly always do, sport....

Remember when McCain/Palin got their bump...?(http://www.gallup.com/poll/110107/republicans-enthusiasm-jumps-after-convention.aspx)...

Or when Obama got a very small, insignificant bounce
(http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/31/obama.mccain.poll/)...?

All this to say.....Have some tea and turn it down....

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24. "I'm drinking a Tall Iced coconut milk macchiato"
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Show me the results when the candidate did NOT receive a post convention bounce?

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29. "RE: I'm drinking a Tall Iced coconut milk macchiato"
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U don't care...Because u r just trolling at this point...U even dismissed the point of Trump getting a convention bounce, when the same outlet that did the polling (CNN), noted that it was a bounce...lol

I just pointed out that McCain/Palin (the most derided Presidential ticket in the history of politics, until Trump) got a very big bump while Obama's bump (to small to even mention) that same year was viewed as a BIG disappointment....McCain/Palin rose to a FIVE point lead over Obama/Biden.....

Listen...I get it....This is your way to have some fun. But I'm just going strictly by the numbers and history, nothing else. Could Trump actually win this entire damn thing? Sure....Low voter turnout from the Obama coalition can def. sink Clinton....

I just don't see that happening at this point....

But beyond that, go at it, dog....

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31. "Why yall think I'm trolling because I hold an opposing view?"
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You live in NYC
I live in Houston
But I spend much time in the rural areas of East Texas
Including Lake Sam Rayburn
Same County where James Byrd was dragged to death

I'm just giving yall the views I hear being out and about as well as the hunting forums I'm on.
I'm telling yall rural America is gonna rise up

They are MAAAAD

I don't think Blacks have that same fire in their belly to stand in line for 8 hours to vote for HRC as they did for Obama.

Again, we're only talking about a handful of states that matter
Ohio
Florida
Virginia
North Cackalacka
Cali and Texas are already settled.

Folk think the Mexicans in Arizona gonna rise up
But we'll see

Fuck polls and deal with REAL LIFE right now
Middle aged white PEOPLE don't give a fuk about gays or black ppl.
That's who is on the fence
Middle aged white ppl

Young folk leaning to HRC
HRC got whatever minorities on lock
Trump got NRA members on lock
It's a very small slice we dealing with here.

Going back to Romneys 47% comment

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36. "bc you're too stupid to acknowledge strong points of opposing views"
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thats why

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40. "OK. We'll see at Thanksgiving."
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And nice for you to bring out name calling.

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41. "RE: Why yall think I'm trolling because I hold an opposing view?"
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Because u attacked me for stating it was a Convention bounce, when all it really took was clicking on to the actual link the OP gave to prove that very point...

To me, that says u r more interested in being right about Trump than having a honest, mature discussion about this race...

U can type out all you want about how it is living in Texas, yadda, yadda, yadda....I'm more interested in the facts....

If u think Trump can win, bully for u...My aim was never to debate if u r right or wrong about Trump. Do u, dog....Just chill with all the other trolling bullshit.....

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25. "Debates+Advertising dollars will go a long way"
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Repubs started running against Hilary in 2013+Bernie Bros+Trump in reality tv show mode brought us here.

He's never gotten attacked directly before and he's got hella soundbytes of him talking shit about every big republican talking point along with the bigotry. Hilldawg's been under negative attack for years..can't really do worse like the GNC showed us. Nothing's happened to Trump...yet, so we will see.

  

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30. "Those ads wont work on Trump"
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its the debates... if he holds his owm during these debates we got problems.

The debates are where Hilldawg should show up and shpw out..

only problem ia her voice and her clothes...lol. Debates these days arent about the information. Its the delivery and who looks presidential.

Hilldawg should wipe the floot with him but I think we may see a W vs Kerry 2.0 where style points "trump" policy.


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32. "Souljahboy TELLEM! Trump already cussed out the Pope"
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America knows what this dude is about
Trump said PUSSY on national TV
Tall don't think Americans heard that?

Americans love that non-PC shit
Eating it up

Trump creates jobs
HRC promised to put an American industry out of business

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35. "I think ads can work they just doing em wrong."
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Saying Trump is unpresidential + racist isn't the way to go...that's what his base loves about him.

Saying he's a secret democrat who loves the gays, hasn't gone to church since he was 13, and has consistently hired immigrants to work in his hotels would do wonders. The dems need to get their swiftboat veterans, Willie Horton's on. Id even go as far as to hire GOP strategists and have them work on attacking him like the NYC democrat he was.

Hilary's weathered this storm for going on 4 years now and while its hurt her brand it can't get worse...we're coming off a week of people chanting for her death on national TV, LOL. Trump's never faced nasty; lets see how quickly the dems go there.


  

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39. "^^^^"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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42. "I roll my eyes every time I see a "Look at this proof Trump Lied" Story"
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No one cares.

I wonder if the Russian Stuff has legs or is too complicated to understand.




>Saying Trump is unpresidential + racist isn't the way to
>go...that's what his base loves about him.
>
>Saying he's a secret democrat who loves the gays, hasn't gone
>to church since he was 13, and has consistently hired
>immigrants to work in his hotels would do wonders. The dems
>need to get their swiftboat veterans, Willie Horton's on. Id
>even go as far as to hire GOP strategists and have them work
>on attacking him like the NYC democrat he was.
>
>Hilary's weathered this storm for going on 4 years now and
>while its hurt her brand it can't get worse...we're coming off
>a week of people chanting for her death on national TV, LOL.
>Trump's never faced nasty; lets see how quickly the dems go
>there.
>
>
>


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45. "New York Businessman at a certain level = Having Russian Ties."
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While the Chinese are making a play to be #1 for shady cash that runs NY Russian obligarchs have been running shit for decades.

Also I think we are at a weird place where the cold war between the US Govt/Russian govt doesn't translate to the public. Remember foxnews fawning over Russia/Putin when they went in on Syria? Russian hate is more nostalgic then anything that plays well with the US public unlike lets say N.Korea or S. Arabia.

Trump may be the father of all lies but you're right that painting him as a liar is old hat. The thing is that no one has really exposed him for what he is, a NYC democrat.

  

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46. "the secret Demecrat is the way to go...."
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unfortunately there are blue collar Dems who use that as a reason to vote for him but its risk/reward that will work.

hiring illegals tho.. that wont gain traction. GOP voters know the deal when it comes to politicians and illegal workers.

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50. "After HRC/Bill was at his wedding and he's for gay marriage?"
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Cruz and Rubio already tried that RINO tactic
Ain't work

Unless you can prove Trump hurts AMERICANS you don't stand a chance

HRC hurts Americans by...
TPP she voted for
Benghazi
Bailing out banks and auto industry
NAFTA
Obama care

You think white ppl give a shot Trump took out that ad against the Central Park Five?
Or he got caught discriminating against blacks in his rentals?

I honestly don't think your average undecided American really give a fuck about Blacks because if they did they wouldn't still be riding the fence.

My money is on Trump come November

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54. "Nah, Trump hurts Americans. "
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College scams
Hires illegal immigrants.
Bankruptcies that force the taxpayers to bail him out (IM SPINNING NIGGA).

Taking a broad view Trump=Hilary, its just the managed to rebrand himself as this far right republican in the past 2 years.

>Cruz and Rubio already tried that RINO tactic
>Ain't work

It didn't work because by that time Cruz/Rubio were playing snark catchup; Rubio was already 'gay' and Cruz's pops killed Kennedy...it's a clean slate and Hilary has nothing to lose because all her cards got pulled already. She's coming from behind with this demographic but unlike the other Republican nominees who pulled punches because they were afraid it would hurt them in the national elections there's nothing stopping Hilary...lets see how she plays this.

  

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92. "way to go is to stop playing games and explain why dem policies are bett..."
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we are in this hole because the public hears extremely loud and extremely frequent conservative propaganda.

running against that only goes so far, and running against trump, best case scenario, wins this election and hurts us down the road.

may be too late for even that unless they get their people out there and rock this convention on ideas, not "trump so crazy"

  

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16. "USA! USA! USA! "
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20. "I'll be sipping lipton tea w/ kermit & bernie throughout the general "
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People simply don't get it: This is an anti-Establishment period of American politics. Sanders would've wiped the floor with Trump -- now Clinton is in a dog-fight and because of unforced errors and fraud within the DNC - it's even more of a challenging race than it needed to be.

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23. "sip on a beer like a real man - Dash"
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107. "exactly....Republicans were rejecting establishment more than anything....."
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And I believe the same thing would've happened on the Democratic side if the DNC hadn't already planned for that.


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21. "DNC built an 8 ft wall around the convention... oh the irony"
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Trump and Fox are already hitting them over the "wall"

Its a sully story but this shit going to get traction and be repeated during the debates to show the hypocrisy of HRC and the DNC.

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26. "Rednecks is a derogatory term so this post will get deleted"
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Or at least history has shown as such

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28. "oh shit... I hope they edit and dont ghost this thread"
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43. "Its been reclaimed. GET YOUR PEOPLE DEEJBORAM"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llvrbbQrAyU


  

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49. "reading is fundamental..."
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..the previous post that was removed for using the term in a malicious manner (intentional or not). complaints were duly noted and action was taken for that post.

so far, not one person has complained about this post or the use of the term rednecks.

let's move on.


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51. "Thanks for not dumping this post."
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Good job!

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57. "i for one am offended as hell"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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105. "ya'll are a trip, i swear"
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33. "this is what i find disturbing"
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- Trump's new edge rests largely on increased support among independents, 43% of whom said that Trump's convention in Cleveland left them more likely to back him
- He now holds double-digit margins over Clinton as more trusted on the economy and terrorism.
- He's increased the share who call him honest and trustworthy (from 38% to 43%), and who would be proud to have him as president (from 32% to 39%).
- Mike Pence - a 39% favorable rating overall, up from 26% pre-convention.


wtf? did we watch the same convention?
seriously. what is going on here?

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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37. "they want their country back is what's going on"
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nothing shocking here.

  

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38. "AMERICA!!!!! Fuck YEAHHHHH!!!!"
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>
>wtf? did we watch the same convention?
>seriously. what is going on here?

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44. "We're still the same country who almost made Plain the VP, We still the"
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same country where what the Kardashians do are breaking news or make the front page on major news outlets. We have lost our fucking minds.
Im surprised people are so surprised.

  

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47. "lmao... if you hate Hillary, Blacks, illegals, NAFTA it was great conven..."
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and Hillarys biggest positive is also a negative. We have seen what her foreign policy record was a few years back and it wasnt that good.

Trump has no record so his tough talk gets the benefit of the doubt from a lot of Americans

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48. "Revenge of the angry white man"
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This shit isn't that complicated
fly over country is PISSED OFF and that means highly motivated to vote
angry white men feel this is their last stand
facts, figures, data, policy, none of that shit matters
Trump is speaking their language and connecting on an emotional level
Dems also did him a yuge (c) favor nominating the weakest candidate they could find
Bernie (who I'm not a fan of), Biden, Bloomberg, ANYONE ELSE, would be up in high double digits and wiping the floor with Trump
but instead we get one of the most unlikable untrustworthy candidates in generations

I'm with her, ONLY because the alternative is a threat to the security of this country
but all you "Hillary in landslide" cats better wake the fuck up
It's her election to lose, and right now she's losing
WAKE UP

  

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52. "yup...cosign word for word..."
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cept the Bernie part lol

i'm shocked @ people being shocked


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53. "Read up above. I said the same shit. they said I'm trolling."
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They also say ain't enough angry white men to cancel out the educated white men, blacks and mexicans.
In Ohio & Virginia?
I beg to differ.

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56. "i peep'd...i said it in like 2 other post as well..it's not just 'Uneduc..."
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white dudes either

even the dude Handle or whatever his name is referenced it and erybody jumped down his throat....I don't get it

there's alot of white dudes across the entire spectrum who ridin wit trump...even more who HATE Hillary

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58. "98% of white ppl HAAAATE BLM"
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HRC supports BLM
So, a good portion of white ppl won't vote HRC
murph talking bout educated white ppl
How many educated white ppl are down with BLM or give a fuk about police brutality on black ppl.

Again, outside of your artsy fartsy enclaves, white ppl STEAMING

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62. "bc u said far more than that"
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and you were actually responding to something

but by all means...being right > being factual

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55. "Was it "angry white men" who secured the Clinton firewall though?"
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>Bernie (who I'm not a fan of), Biden, Bloomberg, ANYONE ELSE,
>would be up in high double digits and wiping the floor with
>Trump
>but instead we get one of the most unlikable untrustworthy
>candidates in generations
>
>I'm with her, ONLY because the alternative is a threat to the
>security of this country

Let's not forget a large reason why Clinton won: She had near monolithic support from black voters in the early primary states. So - on one side - we have "angry white men" threatening to regress this country (via Trump) - on the other - we have #TheNewConformity electing a flawed candidate settling for a compromised Centrist because they rendered Bernie too old, white, progressive, "atheist" and not "Democratic enough" for their taste?

It's not so simple as just blaming this election on angry white men.



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59. "angry white women "
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for Hillary

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60. "There are more poor white ppl than all blacks COMBINED"
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Watch when Pat Robertson gets all the tpt to the polls in VA and Ohio and Florida

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63. "Ask yourself why Bernie wasn't able to connect with Latinos"
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For myself and a lot of others, as soon as the words "democratic socialism" came out of his mouth, we ran the other way as fast as we could.

You know who else said "democratic socialism?"

Castro
Chavez
Maduro
FARC
Correa
Kirchner
Morales

Hell to the fuck no. We came to this country precisely because of all of the above. It all sounded great when they said it just like Bernie did. Bitter real life experience taught us otherwise. College campus revolutionaries feeling the bern would be begging to come back after a week in any latin socialist paradise.

Another thing about my culture: we stick with the devil we know. We know Hillary is a scumbag. But compared to Trump she's the virgin mary.

  

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61. "I do not *believe* these numbers"
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It could be that I'm in denial - the way Karl Rove has been for several elections.

All I *KNOW* that Trump will win with WHITE MEN - who WILL go to vote.

But I can't believe that the combination of the white men who will not vote for him + white women + blacks + hispanics + asians + others don't outnumber white men in this country now.

I hope I'm right and these polls are flawed.

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64. "*frowns* michael moore on 5-reasons-why-trump-will win"
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i think at some point im going to have to turn off news about this election
and just wait and see what november brings
no need to add to the trauma i experienced watching the RNC.

"And if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic, then you obviously missed the past year of 56 primaries and caucuses where 16 Republican candidates tried that and every kitchen sink they could throw at Trump and nothing could stop his juggernaut. As of today, as things stand now, I believe this is going to happen - and in order to deal with it, I need you first to acknowledge it, and then maybe, just maybe, we can find a way out of the mess we’re in."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/5-reasons-why-trump-will-_b_11156794.html

Friends:

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I gave it to you straight last summer when I told you that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee for president. And now I have even more awful, depressing news for you: Donald J. Trump is going to win in November. This wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath is going to be our next president. President Trump. Go ahead and say the words, ‘cause you’ll be saying them for the next four years: “PRESIDENT TRUMP.”

Never in my life have I wanted to be proven wrong more than I do right now.

I can see what you’re doing right now. You’re shaking your head wildly - “No, Mike, this won’t happen!” Unfortunately, you are living in a bubble that comes with an adjoining echo chamber where you and your friends are convinced the American people are not going to elect an idiot for president. You alternate between being appalled at him and laughing at him because of his latest crazy comment or his embarrassingly narcissistic stance on everything because everything is about him. And then you listen to Hillary and you behold our very first female president, someone the world respects, someone who is whip-smart and cares about kids, who will continue the Obama legacy because that is what the American people clearly want! Yes! Four more years of this!

You need to exit that bubble right now. You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real. Trying to soothe yourself with the facts - “77% of the electorate are women, people of color, young adults under 35 and Trump cant win a majority of any of them!“ - or logic - “people aren’t going to vote for a buffoon or against their own best interests!“ - is your brain’s way of trying to protect you from trauma. Like when you hear a loud noise on the street and you think, “oh, a tire just blew out,” or, “wow, who’s playing with firecrackers?” because you don’t want to think you just heard someone being shot with a gun. It’s the same reason why all the initial news and eyewitness reports on 9/11 said “a small plane accidentally flew into the World Trade Center.” We want to - we need to - hope for the best because, frankly, life is already a shit show and it’s hard enough struggling to get by from paycheck to paycheck. We can’t handle much more bad news. So our mental state goes to default when something scary is actually, truly happening. The first people plowed down by the truck in Nice spent their final moments on earth waving at the driver whom they thought had simply lost control of his truck, trying to tell him that he jumped the curb: “Watch out!,” they shouted. “There are people on the sidewalk!”

Well, folks, this isn’t an accident. It is happening. And if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic, then you obviously missed the past year of 56 primaries and caucuses where 16 Republican candidates tried that and every kitchen sink they could throw at Trump and nothing could stop his juggernaut. As of today, as things stand now, I believe this is going to happen - and in order to deal with it, I need you first to acknowledge it, and then maybe, just maybe, we can find a way out of the mess we’re in.

Don’t get me wrong. I have great hope for the country I live in. Things are better. The left has won the cultural wars. Gays and lesbians can get married. A majority of Americans now take the liberal position on just about every polling question posed to them: Equal pay for women - check. Abortion should be legal - check. Stronger environmental laws - check. More gun control - check. Legalize marijuana - check. A huge shift has taken place - just ask the socialist who won 22 states this year. And there is no doubt in my mind that if people could vote from their couch at home on their X-box or PlayStation, Hillary would win in a landslide.

But that is not how it works in America. People have to leave the house and get in line to vote. And if they live in poor, Black or Hispanic neighborhoods, they not only have a longer line to wait in, everything is being done to literally stop them from casting a ballot. So in most elections it’s hard to get even 50% to turn out to vote. And therein lies the problem for November - who is going to have the most motivated, most inspired voters show up to vote? You know the answer to this question. Who’s the candidate with the most rabid supporters? Whose crazed fans are going to be up at 5 AM on Election Day, kicking ass all day long, all the way until the last polling place has closed, making sure every Tom, Dick and Harry (and Bob and Joe and Billy Bob and Billy Joe and Billy Bob Joe) has cast his ballot? That’s right. That’s the high level of danger we’re in. And don’t fool yourself — no amount of compelling Hillary TV ads, or outfacting him in the debates or Libertarians siphoning votes away from Trump is going to stop his mojo.

Here are the 5 reasons Trump is going to win:

1. Midwest Math, or Welcome to Our Rust Belt Brexit. I believe Trump is going to focus much of his attention on the four blue states in the rustbelt of the upper Great Lakes - Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Four traditionally Democratic states - but each of them have elected a Republican governor since 2010 (only Pennsylvania has now finally elected a Democrat). In the Michigan primary in March, more Michiganders came out to vote for the Republicans (1.32 million) that the Democrats (1.19 million). Trump is ahead of Hillary in the latest polls in Pennsylvania and tied with her in Ohio. Tied? How can the race be this close after everything Trump has said and done? Well maybe it’s because he’s said (correctly) that the Clintons’ support of NAFTA helped to destroy the industrial states of the Upper Midwest. Trump is going to hammer Clinton on this and her support of TPP and other trade policies that have royally screwed the people of these four states. When Trump stood in the shadow of a Ford Motor factory during the Michigan primary, he threatened the corporation that if they did indeed go ahead with their planned closure of that factory and move it to Mexico, he would slap a 35% tariff on any Mexican-built cars shipped back to the United States. It was sweet, sweet music to the ears of the working class of Michigan, and when he tossed in his threat to Apple that he would force them to stop making their iPhones in China and build them here in America, well, hearts swooned and Trump walked away with a big victory that should have gone to the governor next-door, John Kasich.

From Green Bay to Pittsburgh, this, my friends, is the middle of England - broken, depressed, struggling, the smokestacks strewn across the countryside with the carcass of what we use to call the Middle Class. Angry, embittered working (and nonworking) people who were lied to by the trickle-down of Reagan and abandoned by Democrats who still try to talk a good line but are really just looking forward to rub one out with a lobbyist from Goldman Sachs who’ll write them nice big check before leaving the room. What happened in the UK with Brexit is going to happen here. Elmer Gantry shows up looking like Boris Johnson and just says whatever shit he can make up to convince the masses that this is their chance! To stick to ALL of them, all who wrecked their American Dream! And now The Outsider, Donald Trump, has arrived to clean house! You don’t have to agree with him! You don’t even have to like him! He is your personal Molotov cocktail to throw right into the center of the bastards who did this to you! SEND A MESSAGE! TRUMP IS YOUR MESSENGER!

And this is where the math comes in. In 2012, Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes. Add up the electoral votes cast by Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. It’s 64. All Trump needs to do to win is to carry, as he’s expected to do, the swath of traditional red states from Idaho to Georgia (states that’ll never vote for Hillary Clinton), and then he just needs these four rust belt states. He doesn’t need Florida. He doesn’t need Colorado or Virginia. Just Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And that will put him over the top. This is how it will happen in November.

2. The Last Stand of the Angry White Man. Our male-dominated, 240-year run of the USA is coming to an end. A woman is about to take over! How did this happen?! On our watch! There were warning signs, but we ignored them. Nixon, the gender traitor, imposing Title IX on us, the rule that said girls in school should get an equal chance at playing sports. Then they let them fly commercial jets. Before we knew it, Beyoncé stormed on the field at this year’s Super Bowl (our game!) with an army of Black Women, fists raised, declaring that our domination was hereby terminated! Oh, the humanity!

That’s a small peek into the mind of the Endangered White Male. There is a sense that the power has slipped out of their hands, that their way of doing things is no longer how things are done. This monster, the “Feminazi,”the thing that as Trump says, “bleeds through her eyes or wherever she bleeds,” has conquered us — and now, after having had to endure eight years of a black man telling us what to do, we’re supposed to just sit back and take eight years of a woman bossing us around? After that it’ll be eight years of the gays in the White House! Then the transgenders! You can see where this is going. By then animals will have been granted human rights and a fuckin’ hamster is going to be running the country. This has to stop!

3. The Hillary Problem. Can we speak honestly, just among ourselves? And before we do, let me state, I actually like Hillary - a lot - and I think she has been given a bad rap she doesn’t deserve. But her vote for the Iraq War made me promise her that I would never vote for her again. To date, I haven’t broken that promise. For the sake of preventing a proto-fascist from becoming our commander-in-chief, I’m breaking that promise. I sadly believe Clinton will find a way to get us in some kind of military action. She’s a hawk, to the right of Obama. But Trump’s psycho finger will be on The Button, and that is that. Done and done.

Let’s face it: Our biggest problem here isn’t Trump - it’s Hillary. She is hugely unpopular — nearly 70% of all voters think she is untrustworthy and dishonest. She represents the old way of politics, not really believing in anything other than what can get you elected. That’s why she fights against gays getting married one moment, and the next she’s officiating a gay marriage. Young women are among her biggest detractors, which has to hurt considering it’s the sacrifices and the battles that Hillary and other women of her generation endured so that this younger generation would never have to be told by the Barbara Bushes of the world that they should just shut up and go bake some cookies. But the kids don’t like her, and not a day goes by that a millennial doesn’t tell me they aren’t voting for her. No Democrat, and certainly no independent, is waking up on November 8th excited to run out and vote for Hillary the way they did the day Obama became president or when Bernie was on the primary ballot. The enthusiasm just isn’t there. And because this election is going to come down to just one thing — who drags the most people out of the house and gets them to the polls — Trump right now is in the catbird seat.

4. The Depressed Sanders Vote. Stop fretting about Bernie’s supporters not voting for Clinton - we’re voting for Clinton! The polls already show that more Sanders voters will vote for Hillary this year than the number of Hillary primary voters in ‘08 who then voted for Obama. This is not the problem. The fire alarm that should be going off is that while the average Bernie backer will drag him/herself to the polls that day to somewhat reluctantly vote for Hillary, it will be what’s called a “depressed vote” - meaning the voter doesn’t bring five people to vote with her. He doesn’t volunteer 10 hours in the month leading up to the election. She never talks in an excited voice when asked why she’s voting for Hillary. A depressed voter. Because, when you’re young, you have zero tolerance for phonies and BS. Returning to the Clinton/Bush era for them is like suddenly having to pay for music, or using MySpace or carrying around one of those big-ass portable phones. They’re not going to vote for Trump; some will vote third party, but many will just stay home. Hillary Clinton is going to have to do something to give them a reason to support her — and picking a moderate, bland-o, middle of the road old white guy as her running mate is not the kind of edgy move that tells millenials that their vote is important to Hillary. Having two women on the ticket - that was an exciting idea. But then Hillary got scared and has decided to play it safe. This is just one example of how she is killing the youth vote.

5. The Jesse Ventura Effect. Finally, do not discount the electorate’s ability to be mischievous or underestimate how any millions fancy themselves as closet anarchists once they draw the curtain and are all alone in the voting booth. It’s one of the few places left in society where there are no security cameras, no listening devices, no spouses, no kids, no boss, no cops, there’s not even a friggin’ time limit. You can take as long as you need in there and no one can make you do anything. You can push the button and vote a straight party line, or you can write in Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. There are no rules. And because of that, and the anger that so many have toward a broken political system, millions are going to vote for Trump not because they agree with him, not because they like his bigotry or ego, but just because they can. Just because it will upset the apple cart and make mommy and daddy mad. And in the same way like when you’re standing on the edge of Niagara Falls and your mind wonders for a moment what would that feel like to go over that thing, a lot of people are going to love being in the position of puppetmaster and plunking down for Trump just to see what that might look like. Remember back in the ‘90s when the people of Minnesota elected a professional wrestler as their governor? They didn’t do this because they’re stupid or thought that Jesse Ventura was some sort of statesman or political intellectual. They did so just because they could. Minnesota is one of the smartest states in the country. It is also filled with people who have a dark sense of humor — and voting for Ventura was their version of a good practical joke on a sick political system. This is going to happen again with Trump.

Coming back to the hotel after appearing on Bill Maher’s Republican Convention special this week on HBO, a man stopped me. “Mike,” he said, “we have to vote for Trump. We HAVE to shake things up.” That was it. That was enough for him. To “shake things up.” President Trump would indeed do just that, and a good chunk of the electorate would like to sit in the bleachers and watch that reality show.

(Next week I will post my thoughts on Trump’s Achilles Heel and how I think he can be beat.)

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66. "all things we have been saying on here"
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68. "yea"
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but he's at least acknowledging that the math MAY still work out to save the day even if he doesn't believe it will...

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67. "this has been the most well-balanced version of this"
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acknowledge that the math may work out

but also acknowledge that math plays out in predictable ways when obvious trends are showing themselves...

1 is huge

2 i think is going to be less huge than 1 but still should also be acknowledged by the Hypnotized HIll-hawks

3 is going to be less and less huge as the D-Day approaches

but this is how you have the discussion...acknowledge the strong points of the opposition and THEN speak your point

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70. "for me? 5 is the 'hugest' "
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>1 is huge
>
>2 i think is going to be less huge than 1 but still should
>also be acknowledged by the Hypnotized HIll-hawks
>
>3 is going to be less and less huge as the D-Day approaches


mainly because i think there are many who openly want to see trump win (even among those you would least expect), there are many who secretly want him to win (they agree with him, just too embarassed to say it out loud, or because they want to see hillary lose to prove some type of point), and then there are those with the anti-establishment mentality- *this* would start the revolution! shake things up! down with the establishment! things will get so bad there will have to be a people's revolution!

so ya. i really am starting to believe that number 5 is the biggest threat- especially because this is a demographic you probably cannot identify, and whose minds are already made up.
i really hope they are a minority

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71. "Susan Sarandon got caught out there with that sentiment"
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/29/susan-sarandon-trump-might-be-better-for-america-than-hillary-clinton.html


>those with the anti-establishment mentality- *this* would
>start the revolution! shake things up! down with the
>establishment! things will get so bad there will have to be a
>people's revolution!

While I like my dystopian entertainment like any other geek, I know rationally that as a minority in America it can get bad; one of the easiest wins to appease his base is to pull the Att. general from all those police brutality cases, etc.

Even beyond that It's an American problem because we've never REALLY faced REAL hardship so its easy to almost romanticize a shitty future.

Its something a pretty big titties successful white actress can say but not deal with the repercussions, or a firmly middle class single white 'bernie or bust' can say because his jobs safe for the near future.

  

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73. "yea, i really dont understand this sentiment"
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>Even beyond that It's an American problem because we've never
>REALLY faced REAL hardship so its easy to almost romanticize a
>shitty future.

i dont think people understand what revolution actually means
in early july i spent my country's independence day celebration monitoring my fb to find out if my family and friends were okay,
because for 4 days of that week, there were gunshots and rpgs in the fuckin capital city
>250 people died, the week after i have friends calling for bodies to be collected, i have friends who are journalists- so of course- when 3 journalists died in the midst of this shit, it was the r.i.p posts

i literally do not understand. revolution typically means war.
i remember the night a neighbour and i spent crouched on her living room floor
listening to a barrage of gunshots- and the minute the rpgs started.
democracy is something to cherish and protect.

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72. "1, 3 and 5"
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and I really think 3 is more important than we want to admit.

People hate Hillary. HATE, HATE, HATE her...

A good number of Trump voters are only voting for him because of Hilldawg

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69. "co-sign to infinity"
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I already know it's coming down to 5 to 6 states
and I'm telling everyone I know to vote for Hillary
but we underestimate pissed off motivated middle america at our peril

  

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65. "Why are people talking about convention bump, like that's a good excuse...."
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These people who continue to be wrong when estimating Trump's support and analyzing polls. They've lost all credibility with me.

According to their forecasts a few months , Clinton should be blowing Trump out if the water at this point. With or without a convention "bump".

A couple of months ago the sentiment was, just wait until she secures the nomination. Then the polls while turn. Wait until Obama endorses. Wait until Sanders endorses....

If Clinton doesn't get a post DNC bump, there's going to be more "wait until..." talk. Soon they will realize Trump is really moving the movement

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95. "RE: Why are people talking about convention bump, like that's a good exc..."
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People are talking about bumps because CNN, who administered the poll, reported on the bump...lol....Blame CNN.

This has nothing to do with people being wrong about Trump. There's one to two people on this site who believe that Trump will get blown out....Other than that, most folks have gone back and forth and stated that this will indeed be a tight race....

No need to create a straw man to make a point. If u think Trump will pull it out, say it and state your reasons....People will have their own thoughts on why Trump won't win...That's how debate goes.....



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74. "Hilary needs to drop out"
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And do what's best for the country. We cannot risk a Trump presidency.

  

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75. "Nate Silver now has Trump as more likely to win (link)"
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http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

43% vs 56% for Trump. Has Ohio, FL, and Penn swinging Trump's way

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76. "whey ya at murph? (c) Future Fonzarelli"
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whey ya murph when 538 didn't back ya?
whey ya at murph when you tried to say I attacked ya?
whey ya at murph when ya said trump couldn't win this?
whey ya at murph when I'm all up in ya bidness?

Chrump!
Chrump!
Chrump!

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77. "tried to tell this place Clinton was a hard sell"
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I really dont see the Dem convention giving her a bump. Who the hell is on the fence with Hillary?

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78. "f*ck."
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the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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79. "Nate Siver is on point with most predictions too... this isnt good"
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80. "i knowwwwwwww....hence my one word reply lol"
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i am legit shook

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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83. "calm down. it's too soon for predictions (c) murph"
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LoL
When you in this deep in politics you usually know more than your average bear.

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85. "lmao"
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you know that nigga looking for a link to descredit Nate.

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87. "but during the dem primary he made 538 god"
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So now he's a heretic.

But yes, a Clinton presidency will fuck my lifestyle and livelihood up so I'm gunning for Chrump

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93. "your in texas... Trump is winning there regardless"
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96. "RE: lmao"
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>you know that nigga looking for a link to descredit Nate.


Nope...Nate is my man 50 grand.....

It's as if y'all just started paying attention to this election shit....

Y'all were the same folks running around with your heads on fire when McCain/Palin went up on Obama/Biden by five points after their convention bounce....lol

RNC Convention= Bounce...

DNC Convention = Bounce....

By the time we hit Sept thats when the polls will start to come back down to earth for both parties....I said it when Clinton was leading by 9 points a month ago and I'll say it again. These polls will drive u crazy in the summer months....They are moot in July-August....

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90. "It is. Nate said it himself right here:"
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-trump-gets-convention-bounce-drawing-polls-to-dead-heat/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

Some great context for how convention polling bounces work and have historically worked.

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98. "RE: calm down. it's too soon for predictions (c) murph"
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Hey Troll....calm the fuck down.....

And read this: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-trump-gets-convention-bounce-drawing-polls-to-dead-heat/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

Nate Silver going into details about the current polls....

(Also, u seem to be mistaking me for someone who said this would be a blowout or that Trump shouldn't be taken seriously)...

U still haven't been able to tell me what I've been wrong about other than Trump coming out of the Republican primary, a matter that 99.9 percent of folks were dead wrong about...

I said Trump would get a bounce and that folks like yourself would run around screaming the world is coming to an end....lol....And I was right...

The same will happen after the DNC convention....And there will be people on the Right screaming TRUMP WAS A MISTAKE....

But again, I'm saying all this with the understanding that u r a troll...

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91. "nate went from almost 80-20 to 60-40 to this in less than a month"
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no one has any fucking idea what is going on. need to play less demographic games and hillary needs to start trying to win an election.

  

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94. "predictions are always a wild card with Trump..."
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but Silver is pretty accurate...

and races always tighten as they get closer to an election. Not surprised its close but a,little surprised he is winning in current simulations

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81. "lol"
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I really wanted to be wrong on this

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Coolin...

  

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86. "bruh, we all want Trump to lose.... "
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but its hilarious how some couldnt even have a discussion on how she might lose or why she is a shitty candidate.

if Teump wins this will be the biggest upset since Cleveland won a title.

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82. "Anybody in Canada wanna wife a gently used moderator?"
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I cook and clean.

  

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84. "lol"
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Coolin...

  

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102. "haha"
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88. "Naturally, it's a non-adjusted poll"
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Trump has gotten the typical polling boost post-convention so it's going to be skewed until next Monday when the post-DNC polling numbers come out. The link below, also from Nate, explains it very clearly (he terms it "now-cast vs "polls-plus"):

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-trump-gets-convention-bounce-drawing-polls-to-dead-heat/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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97. "RE: Naturally, it's a non-adjusted poll"
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>Trump has gotten the typical polling boost post-convention so
>it's going to be skewed until next Monday when the post-DNC
>polling numbers come out. The link below, also from Nate,
>explains it very clearly (he terms it "now-cast vs
>"polls-plus"):
>
>http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-trump-gets-convention-bounce-drawing-polls-to-dead-heat/?ex_cid=2016-forecast


But they don't want to read that part of it....lol

Niggas just want to be RIGHT...lol

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114. "You write write for a living"
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I do statistical analyses daily.
I understand about confounding and EMM in various forms of modelling

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104. "RE: Naturally, it's a non-adjusted poll"
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>Trump has gotten the typical polling boost post-convention so
>it's going to be skewed until next Monday when the post-DNC
>polling numbers come out. The link below, also from Nate,
>explains it very clearly (he terms it "now-cast vs
>"polls-plus"):

The polls are going to be skewed in either direction for the next few weeks following both conventions. Either way, the shit is way too close for comfort.


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99. "You know that's not what he said right?"
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The more correct way to say it would be "Trump would likely win if election were held TODAY"

That difference may sound slight except for the fact that Nate still has Clinton pegged to win.


May sound like excuse copping but does anyone else here remember McCain leading Obama immediately after the GOP convention in 2008? If I recall correctly it was a much wider margin.


But yeah, everything is different this time because it's Donald Trump.


>http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now
>
>43% vs 56% for Trump. Has Ohio, FL, and Penn swinging Trump's
>way


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100. "RE: You know that's not what he said right?"
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>May sound like excuse copping but does anyone else here
>remember McCain leading Obama immediately after the GOP
>convention in 2008? If I recall correctly it was a much wider
>margin.

Good luck having any debate of substance with some of these folks....Niggas r treating this election like it's the NBA Finals....lol

And yes...McCain/Palin got a pretty big bump after their convention.....Also Obama only got a 1 point bump. And people were freaking out then.....

>But yeah, everything is different this time because it's
>Donald Trump.

Trump is def. a wild card though......But again, it's tough having any kind of convo or debate when u have folks showing the attention span of a Yorkie Terrier....

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101. "just in case yall forgot..."
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this poll is due to the GOP convention.






just in case yall forgot.

cause you know...

yall don't know how polls work

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103. "RE: just in case yall forgot..."
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>this poll is due to the GOP convention.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>just in case yall forgot.
>
>cause you know...
>
>yall don't know how polls work

Not u too, Legs....

So wait a minute...That's how we r getting down?....

People on some, I TOLD U SO, CLINTON GONNA LOSE off of a highly credible Nate Silver forecast and then side-step the part when dude says THIS IS A CONVENTION BUMP AND I STILL HAVE CLINTON AS THE PROJECTED WINNER....lol

Are we in some alternate universe now where we can't have nuanced, mature discussions? Like...come on dog....lol

Y'all wild...

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110. "Lmao.. everyone knows this poll is for today and could change in a week"
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Yall funny as shit

in here trying to remind people how polls work like we dont know that shit already.

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113. "Not that, but I'm a gotdamned STATISTICIAN"
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>in here trying to remind people how polls work like we dont
>know that shit already.

I've been gettin statistics work off OKP for YEARS
LoL
this nigga tryna explain Bayes Theorem to me and shit
LOLOLOLOL

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111. "what did you think about M. Moore's points?"
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u holding the opposite opinion of these numbnuts doesnt mean you arent more concerned about being right as well

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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106. "Fuzz the bullshit let's put some drinks on it. "
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You right and I am wrong, I buy you two rounds* of your go to drink at your favorite watering hole (I am pretty sure Applebees got gift cards).


I win you buying two jamesons at Rock & Reilly's NYC.

What's up, ready to put some dollars on it?!?!?!

deejboram says you got it to spend.


*legal stipulation - and I know Johnny Walker blue ain't your go to drink but to put some hard rules on it two drinks with a max dollar value of 40 dollars.



>this poll is due to the GOP convention.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>just in case yall forgot.
>
>cause you know...
>
>yall don't know how polls work
>
>


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109. "Nigga, aint no way I'm betting on a presidential election"
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108. "good. murica deserves him"
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112. "So what happens if HRC doesn't get a Convetion Bump: She LOSES!"
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http://politics-by-the-numbers.blogspot.com/2016/07/convention-bumps.html

Only candidate in the last 50 years to NOT get a convention bump was McGovern and he got SLAUGHTERED by Nixon in 72

So, yall Hillbots better hope and pray this chick gets a bump!

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115. "let me go on record saying: Fu*k Bill, f*ck DWS, *uck HRC"
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as a staff, political party and as a motherloving crew!

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