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FLUIDJ
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"Drones on US Civilians are next. Y'all know this right?"
Fri Jul-08-16 01:06 PM by FLUIDJ

  

          

This was the first time a robot designed for use in the battlefield was employed on a US Citizen on US soil, in a non-military situation. A precedent has been set.

Looking for the hidden agenda? There it is......
Trust.

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Old news. They're already linking the networks that exist now.
Jul 08th 2016
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12954...
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You got the juice now imcvspl
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      ^^^
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"hidden agenda" riiight
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RE: Drones on US Civilians are next. Y'all know this right?
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i think the better question is
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      RE: i think the better question is
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           ya i can see blowing up other explosives
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                RE: ya i can see blowing up other explosives
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                right on
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                I personally never saw a robot sent in to get a person over there...
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                     probably since the soliders have a decent choice
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Story, pic
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they've been using robots in civilian situations since 1972+...Ireland
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It's imminent at this point
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youll probably see munitions fired from a drone
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These "right conditions" are going to be set and carried out by whom?
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      nice
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           My fault, I was silly to waste waste common sense on this board.
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i can admit when i'm wrong
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& the bombing on MOVE in the 1980's will be the template they study.....
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definitely made me pause when they said they killed the dallas shooter w...
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pretty much a gaurantee another cop would have been shot
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Did people NOT think Drones would be used on US Civilians next?
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Ehh... while my sentiments are "Fuck this guy", this is a bad precedent
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yup, cuz all it takes is one "there's a nig with a gun" 911 call
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On US soil? Because this has been happening overseas
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Atillah Moor
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1. "Old news. They're already linking the networks that exist now."
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Live for today man. Go do good for someone today.

  

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2. "http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12954..."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12954133&mesg_id=12954133&listing_type=search#12954369

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FLUIDJ
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3. "You got the juice now imcvspl "
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13. "^^^"
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GriftyMcgrift
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4. ""hidden agenda" riiight"
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you're on the case gumshoe


stay woke

  

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5. "RE: Drones on US Civilians are next. Y'all know this right?"
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If we militarize the police why wouldnt they use military tactics?

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GriftyMcgrift
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6. "i think the better question is"
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why would a someone responsible for the lives of police officers and civilians not use whatever tools are available to him to prevent further harm from coming to said officers and civilians?


i think another good question since we are so hype about the "militarization" of police

what military situation have we ever driven a robot into a structure/room with a bomb attached to it?




lets get back to focus on legitimate problems stemming from this incident instead of the...

hidden agenda to get us used to robots with bombs attached to them...

  

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7. "RE: i think the better question is"
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Fri Jul-08-16 07:16 PM by double 0

          

According to the god malcolm nance this tactic has been used multiple times against suicide bombers and to explode ieds

Also doubt there is a hidden agenda.. People dont pay attention until something is right in front of their face.. So using robots overseas for this very sale tactic means nothing to them.. But using it in front of em on US soil.. Yes they will pay attention..

And I think we Should discuss the tactics regarding robots since police depts do also have access to drones. The open discussion on when and how these things are used has begun..

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GriftyMcgrift
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8. "ya i can see blowing up other explosives"
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Fri Jul-08-16 07:15 PM by GriftyMcgrift

  

          

interesting theyve been using it on actual people overseas


im all about cops should be cops and not the military


but im also all about them doing what they have to do to prevent further harm


*Edit*

and to clarify why it seems odd we'd use it on people overseas


there are much cheaper, easier and efficient ways of dealing with someone holed up in a building/room than with an expensive robot when in a war zone

  

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9. "RE: ya i can see blowing up other explosives"
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Fri Jul-08-16 07:20 PM by double 0

          

Robot is mad cheap.. Less than 10k... Its their purpose they are their for bombs and potential bomb situations..

If someone is in a bldg 200ft away and u can roll a robot with a bomb up to it I think thats easier than calling in a drone strike on said bldg

I also agree cops should be cops... But they need way better training to start..

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GriftyMcgrift
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10. "right on"
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Fri Jul-08-16 07:25 PM by GriftyMcgrift

  

          

ya i can see the application you right
did a little reading too, interesting


*edit*

after reading i see it too stems from improvisng by soldiers

so back to the OP


no agenda here, people doing what they have to do to get shit done and save lives

  

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14. "I personally never saw a robot sent in to get a person over there..."
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not to say it's never happened. I've seen TONS of IEDs get probed and/or detonated by robots...Johnny 5 lookin jawns. I've also seen drone strikes and they're pretty precise.

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GriftyMcgrift
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15. "probably since the soliders have a decent choice"
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of tools to get it done, the robot being used that way really only comes into play when they have to really improvise things.

  

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11. "Story, pic"
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http://fortune.com/2016/07/08/dallas-shooting-robot-explosive/

http://dronecenter.bard.edu/police-robots-in-the-u-s/

Looks kinda like Johnny #5



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12. "they've been using robots in civilian situations since 1972+...Ireland "
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Fri Jul-08-16 07:45 PM by double negative

  

          

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelbarrow_(robot)

i mean, granted this is a new use but, robots have been in use for a second


not sure how to feel about it since I really see it as just another technological advancement thats up there with night vision, thermography, smart bombs, guided munitions, better bullet proof vests, information warfare, etc


what DOES fuck me up is the the fact that after all this time there doesnt seem to be an emphasis on creating AND ACTUALLY USING non-lethal solutions (i.e. you wont be dead but you will be incapacitated)

what DOES fuck me up and I believe that this is implied in this post is the fact that we keep throwing military grade level weaponry at the police WITHOUT actually spending the time and money to properly train the people. its like getting a handgun without training; you will end up going to the gun first instead letting the gun be the absolute last option.

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16. "It's imminent at this point "
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A few years on this very board "military experts" where arguing that a situation like this was impossible.

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17. "youll probably see munitions fired from a drone"
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Fri Jul-08-16 08:32 PM by GriftyMcgrift

  

          

in mexico before the us due to several factors


and honestly, i dont see many situations where they are gonna use a drone to shoot a missle at someone (in the US)

it would have to be sparse but hey if the conditions are right and it saves lives so be it.

  

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24. "These "right conditions" are going to be set and carried out by whom? "
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The same country that manages to kills 500 people on the streets every single year without a trial is magically going to determine who to kill on the streets with unmanned drones or blow up with robots justly, transparently and without bias.
It's like you haven't been paying attention at all.

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25. "nice"
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put something in quotes i didnt even say very nice

so I havent been paying attention? thats what you got from my statement?

congratulations, you misquote me then you have to be condescending.

why the hell do I even reply? And you think I'm gonna spend another minute trying to have a legitimate discussion with you?

have a great day

  

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26. "My fault, I was silly to waste waste common sense on this board."
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19. "i can admit when i'm wrong"
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this bothers me as well.

i won't equate what happened in Dallas to targeted strike with a UAV, but i recognize the future implications.

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18. "& the bombing on MOVE in the 1980's will be the template they study....."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE

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20. "definitely made me pause when they said they killed the dallas shooter w..."
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like they couldn't just flash bang the shit out of him then go in?


The way they do it all the time

  

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21. "pretty much a gaurantee another cop would have been shot"
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or injured

and i think they had had enough that day

  

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22. "Did people NOT think Drones would be used on US Civilians next?"
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23. "Ehh... while my sentiments are "Fuck this guy", this is a bad precedent"
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Would've rather he was taken to trial, and given they falsely fingered another guy as a suspect, this is scary as fuck.

  

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27. "yup, cuz all it takes is one "there's a nig with a gun" 911 call"
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and these mofos come in weapons hot, not even trying to figure out what's what...a la Rice, Crawford, etc, etc.

Now, they're just going to send ED-209 in and not even bother putting their lives at risk (TM)

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28. "On US soil? Because this has been happening overseas"
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