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Hitokiri
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"Joe Budden vs. Drake"
Thu Jun-30-16 05:47 PM by Hitokiri

  

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi720pAdZN0

This could get interesting...



Backstory is that Joe wasn't feeling Views and talked about it on his podcast. Drake got all Drake about it and has been throwing subliminals since then. So... here we are.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
All I heard was a shit ton of reverb
Jun 30th 2016
1
picking on a Canadian .. not very nice Joey
Jun 30th 2016
2
Did I miss something in the subliminals?
Jun 30th 2016
3
Very much...he made a whole episode about it. Really weird
Jun 30th 2016
4
This one seems pretty clear though, right?
Jun 30th 2016
5
      But that was after the podcast episode
Jun 30th 2016
7
      But that was after the podcast episode
Jun 30th 2016
8
Bad idea Joe
Jun 30th 2016
6
love it. i like when hip hop has real battles as long as they stay on wa...
Jun 30th 2016
9
how you drop a diss record over some wack production?
Jun 30th 2016
10
It's 10 times better than that shit Meek dropped..
Jun 30th 2016
11
      fixed
Jun 30th 2016
13
that podcast about views was weird as fuk
Jun 30th 2016
12
Hoe shit? From Joe Budden? HELL YOU SAY!!
Jul 01st 2016
14
      LOL
Jul 17th 2016
31
Wake (anutha one)
Jul 06th 2016
15
this trees falling in a forest mess lmao.
Jul 06th 2016
16
Lmfao. As sick as his rhymes are, this is true. n/m
Jul 07th 2016
22
RE: Wake (anutha one)
Jul 06th 2016
18
At least this was much better than the first
Jul 06th 2016
19
Wooo Now this one is heat
Jul 07th 2016
20
      RE: Wooo Now this one is heat
Jul 17th 2016
43
this shit is so corny.
Jul 06th 2016
17
Drizzy fan?
Jul 07th 2016
21
Drake "responds" with No Shopping
Jul 17th 2016
23
this is objectively very bad
Jul 17th 2016
25
Surprisingly very weak
Jul 17th 2016
37
damn killed him with the first 2 lines. effective and efficient.
Jul 17th 2016
42
That might be the worst verse I've ever heard
Jul 18th 2016
52
Zzzzzz. Beat is cool. Drake came basic as fuck.
Jul 18th 2016
57
Budden back at it "Afaid"
Jul 17th 2016
24
Joe murkin' him.
Jul 17th 2016
26
Good lord. Drake don't want it with THAT Joe Budden.
Jul 17th 2016
27
RE: Good lord. Drake don't want it with THAT Joe Budden.
Jul 17th 2016
29
Meh. Drake is taking it easy on Joe at the moment....
Jul 17th 2016
28
^OvO intern^
Jul 17th 2016
32
Not an intern just heavily objective
Jul 17th 2016
33
      He can easily outrap Joe?
Jul 17th 2016
35
      Joe hasn't won a rap battle on wax yet so that claim fails.
Jul 17th 2016
36
      WHAT?!!! He nuked the entire G-Unit
Jul 18th 2016
62
           He really did
Jul 25th 2016
85
      Lol
Jul 17th 2016
38
           Ionno, Pat Stay and Charron are pretty good...
Jul 17th 2016
40
      No shade. But how old are you?
Jul 17th 2016
39
           Well, well, well, well, over 30...
Jul 17th 2016
41
                Hmmm...interesting. I would think the same. But Joe isn't really...
Jul 17th 2016
44
                Drake fucked up
Jul 18th 2016
61
                     Those Drake pleas were already out before Joe rhymed.
Jul 18th 2016
74
                          They arent even listening to the diss records...lol
Jul 18th 2016
76
                umm, it happens all the time in rap homie
Jul 18th 2016
60
gotdamn that's a lot of excuses
Jul 18th 2016
59
Good Lawd.. This could be Amazing if Drake steps up
Jul 18th 2016
48
This place is so flip-floppish.. Joe Goes Hard
Jul 17th 2016
30
NO.
Jul 17th 2016
34
Joe rapping his ass off on that new one
Jul 18th 2016
45
yea that's my only issue with all of this
Jul 18th 2016
46
      is it really that weird though?
Jul 18th 2016
47
           there's no evidence of them being that cool tho
Jul 18th 2016
49
           RE: there's no evidence of them being that cool tho
Jul 18th 2016
53
                LOL @ the point of a "beef" not making sense a moot point
Jul 18th 2016
54
                are you dense? i mean, i know you snuggle Drake's balls on OKP...
Jul 18th 2016
55
                Fired first when?
Jul 18th 2016
56
                     on No Shopping. Drake's Budden diss was * IN * French's...
Jul 18th 2016
58
                     Drake can sing, act, rap and have ghost writers but Joe cant have a podc...
Jul 18th 2016
72
                     RE: Fired first when?
Jul 18th 2016
65
                RE: LOL @ the point of a "beef" not making sense a moot point
Jul 18th 2016
63
                     pssssssssst...
Jul 18th 2016
66
                lol@ benign
Jul 18th 2016
70
           Yeah its fucking weird. Cause real friends havent talked shit about him
Jul 18th 2016
50
                don't know what you're saying.
Jul 18th 2016
51
                     Drake fans have created an alternate universe for hip hop logic
Jul 18th 2016
64
                          RE: Drake fans have created an alternate universe for hip hop logic
Jul 18th 2016
67
                          this is just similar to the LL, Canibus rap beef
Jul 18th 2016
69
                          they can't stand it. that's when logic goes out the window.
Jul 18th 2016
68
                          i must of missed podcast being put in the 5 pilars of Hiphop meeting
Jul 18th 2016
71
                               So now Drake fans want rules and hip hop edicate?
Jul 18th 2016
73
                                    I was stanning for Joe on here way before Drake
Jul 18th 2016
75
                                         You sound... Afraid
Jul 18th 2016
77
                                         nygga u the one in here addressing Drake wtf
Jul 18th 2016
79
                                         now i'll be honest i don't recall the whole Drake/Kendrick thing that we...
Jul 18th 2016
78
                                              I ain't repeating myself
Jul 18th 2016
80
                                                   basically...like all of a sudden Budden isnt a calculated weirdo
Jul 19th 2016
81
Mickey Factz throws his hat in the ring
Jul 24th 2016
82
Joe Budden threatens to kill kids for knowing where he lives
Jul 24th 2016
83
lol why he do that?
Jul 25th 2016
84
Dude is named Mickey Factz. I'm just saying
Jul 25th 2016
86
should've signed to Star Trak the way u cling on(Klingon) shyt
Jul 26th 2016
93
When ya former homie who hid while you got snuffed disses you...
Jul 26th 2016
94
      he supposed to catch an ass whooping for a tour mate?
Jul 27th 2016
96
LL VS Canibus
Jul 26th 2016
87
You have a good point
Jul 26th 2016
88
Yeah BUT, LL lost his TV show over that silly ballet too.
Jul 26th 2016
89
huh?
Jul 26th 2016
90
      You know i meant battle ... LOL
Jul 26th 2016
91
           Man, ballet works fine there. What's this about losing his show over the...
Jul 26th 2016
92
           I was talking losing the show over the battle.
Aug 17th 2016
100
Yeah, but LL spit bars, was down to battle, & named names
Jul 26th 2016
95
Drake brought Eminem out in Detroit last night
Aug 17th 2016
97
seems more like a loss for Ebro and them
Aug 17th 2016
98
      Eminem is Joe's "boss" at Shady Records
Aug 17th 2016
99
           looks like a bitch move by Drake
Aug 17th 2016
101
           they're not playing on the same level or by the same rules
Aug 17th 2016
102
                I'm old... I just want the raps
Aug 17th 2016
105
                Joe's livelihood does not depend on Drake in any way. Stop.
Aug 17th 2016
107
           True, Em probably has obligations to fulfill to his Boss Jimmy Iovine
Aug 17th 2016
103
                Drake and Em already have a relationship
Aug 17th 2016
104
                     Jimmy would have both do an album together
Aug 17th 2016
106

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1. "All I heard was a shit ton of reverb"
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2. "picking on a Canadian .. not very nice Joey"
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3. "Did I miss something in the subliminals?"
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The supposed lines toward Budden on "4PM in Calabasas" felt like reaches to me.

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4. "Very much...he made a whole episode about it. Really weird"
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Like he really wants that shit to be about him. Smh

Plus this was a really weak diss. Was hungrier when he was going at Hov back in the day

  

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5. "This one seems pretty clear though, right?"
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https://twitter.com/IamAkademiks/status/730498707645464576

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7. "But that was after the podcast episode"
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where Joe went ranting about how he was being dissed on 4PM....he kept going at him in that podcast at in tweets so....

But the starting clearly feels like Joe was reaching

The line Joe says about poking people...who really was poking who? Joe was LOOKING for this to happen..hes trying to hard to make it happen

IF Drake roasts him.....he has a lot to gain as far as lyrical rappity rap shit goes. If Joe wins....the battle...he's not gonna win the war cause Drake is too popular and everyone will just expect him to win the battle anyways cause its on rappity rap shit lol

Its interesting.

  

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8. "But that was after the podcast episode"
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where Joe went ranting about how he was being dissed on 4PM....he kept going at him in that podcast at in tweets so....

But the starting clearly feels like Joe was reaching

The line Joe says about poking people...who really was poking who? Joe was LOOKING for this to happen..hes trying to hard to make it happen

IF Drake roasts him.....he has a lot to gain as far as lyrical rappity rap shit goes. If Joe wins....the battle...he's not gonna win the war cause Drake is too popular and everyone will just expect him to win the battle anyways cause its on rappity rap shit lol

Its interesting.

  

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6. "Bad idea Joe"
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He's still a great MC, but lord knows he's got so much silly shit he's done that wouldn't play well if Drake brought it up on wax.

  

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9. "love it. i like when hip hop has real battles as long as they stay on wa..."
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10. "how you drop a diss record over some wack production? "
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11. "It's 10 times better than that shit Meek dropped.."
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Outside looking in, your sig appears disrespectful to your people as it's three or four of yall not two.

  

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13. "fixed"
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>Outside looking in, your sig appears disrespectful to your
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12. "that podcast about views was weird as fuk"
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Thu Jun-30-16 08:02 PM by SeV

  

          

Like that nygga was screaming the whole time

Anyway I'm conflicted because I fuks with joey just as hard as I do Drake

But this seems forced

Like I'm sure he wrote this right after the podcast

And what makes it even weirder is I'm sure Joe is a bigger Drake stan than most nyggas out there(including myself)

Anyway u can't rant and scream about a nygga for a whole hour on a podcast then call him sensitive if he sends a shot

This just screams give me ur attention please

And I also think him linking up with Tory Lanez is calculated too

But im all for it

The track got bars

Shyt is layered with em

I luv it

It's funny he pulled an B Rabbit 8 mile and brought up Drake fukin Tahiry 1st

Even tho it's kinda some ho shyt to drag her name into this

Can't wait to hear that French track tho

French been sitting on that for like a month n half already

I doubt Drake going to go back n forth with him tho




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14. "Hoe shit? From Joe Budden? HELL YOU SAY!!"
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YOU, SIR...MUST APOLOGIZE FOR BESMIRCHING THE NAME OF THE MOST HONORABLE AND DEFINITELY NOT EMOTIONAL JOE BUDDEN!!!

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>YOU, SIR...MUST APOLOGIZE FOR BESMIRCHING THE NAME OF THE
>MOST HONORABLE AND DEFINITELY NOT EMOTIONAL JOE BUDDEN!!!
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15. "Wake (anutha one)"
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Joe is "Back to backin'" him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZa58XBXNEk

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16. "this trees falling in a forest mess lmao."
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22. "Lmfao. As sick as his rhymes are, this is true. n/m"
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18. "RE: Wake (anutha one)"
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"No really, we want a Party album
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19. "At least this was much better than the first"
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20. "Wooo Now this one is heat"
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Should have just came with this one off top.

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43. "RE: Wooo Now this one is heat"
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>Should have just came with this one off top.


Nah...u want to save your heat.....Joe did it right....

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17. "this shit is so corny. "
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doesn't help he's rapping over illmind 2006 beats.

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23. "Drake "responds" with No Shopping"
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http://www.audiomack.com/song/jblrocks/no-shopping-ovo-sound-radio-rip

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25. "this is objectively very bad "
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37. "Surprisingly very weak"
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42. "damn killed him with the first 2 lines. effective and efficient. "
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52. "That might be the worst verse I've ever heard"
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No lie

  

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57. "Zzzzzz. Beat is cool. Drake came basic as fuck."
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The "I'm what you almost was" angle couldn't have been more generic.

  

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24. "Budden back at it "Afaid""
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https://soundcloud.com/joebudden/afraid

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26. "Joe murkin' him. "
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Joe fairly wears his criticisms, but THAT muthafucka can RAP his ass off.

now, we all know this won't matter to Drake's fans (and it may not matter to Drake but he leaped so it surely does), but Joe is tearin his ass up.

  

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27. "Good lord. Drake don't want it with THAT Joe Budden."
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29. "RE: Good lord. Drake don't want it with THAT Joe Budden."
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>Filthy


Nah...He don't...Budden ain't fuckin' around....

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28. "Meh. Drake is taking it easy on Joe at the moment...."
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Drake has more than enough ammo to deal with Joe Budden but it's pointless because it's Joe Budden. I fucks with Joe's music but dissing Drake is the worst thing for him to do. Joe retired from touring, releases music, and podcasts. He's turned into a social media personality that occasionally raps.

It's lame as fuck to diss an artist that sold 1.2 mill their first week out of jealously that the artist is not pushing the culture forward. Joe sounds like the madd rapper in this instance.

  

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32. "^OvO intern^"
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Drake is taking it easy because Drake can't out rap Joe. No worries though, in the court of public opinion Drake won't lose amongst the female and heartbroken male demographic.

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33. "Not an intern just heavily objective"
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>Drake is taking it easy because Drake can't out rap Joe. No
>worries though, in the court of public opinion Drake won't
>lose amongst the female and heartbroken male demographic.

I know more of Joe's bars if anything but fuck facts, right?

Drake can easily out rap Joe it's pointless because it's Joe Budden. Joe's self depricating nature in his rhymes comes back to bite him if Drake really wanted to make a legit diss record.

Joe ranted for over three hours about Drake and released three diss songs. None of these diss songs really hit as hard as they should. This song is overshadowed by two times. Joe is coming across like old ass KG sitting in the stands injured. He's still in the league but a shell of his former self at this point.

  

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35. "He can easily outrap Joe?"
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Word? He's taking his time because he needs the right ghostwriter to compete with Joe in this type of rap. He can't mess with Joe in battling just like Joe can't mess with him in pop music.

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36. "Joe hasn't won a rap battle on wax yet so that claim fails."
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>Word? He's taking his time because he needs the right
>ghostwriter to compete with Joe in this type of rap. He can't
>mess with Joe in battling just like Joe can't mess with him in
>pop music.

Joe has Tsu Surf on his side so your ghostwriting allegations go out the window. Drake has the most popular diss record of the last decade while you bullshitting. Drake's prequel diss record is better than any of these songs. It pains me to say this Joe's looking bad out here after these disses.

  

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62. "WHAT?!!! He nuked the entire G-Unit"
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**********
I should put that in a song

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The avatar is old. And, no, that hat was not a groovy style back then, either.

  

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85. "He really did"
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Did we forget?

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38. "Lol"
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>Word? He's taking his time because he needs the right
>ghostwriter to compete with Joe in this type of rap.


He's calling around Toronto now trying to find
Dizazter and Daylyt and any other battle rapper
willing to help.




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40. "Ionno, Pat Stay and Charron are pretty good..."
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>>Word? He's taking his time because he needs the right
>>ghostwriter to compete with Joe in this type of rap.
>
>
>He's calling around Toronto now trying to find
>Dizazter and Daylyt and any other battle rapper
>willing to help.


Joe's friends with Guntitles so if it comes to a rap battle his ghostwriters are better. Side note: Guntitles 30s Diz and Day on any battle rap platform. Diz is fucking trash, b.

  

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39. "No shade. But how old are you? "
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I'm just curiously thinking about how rap fans are responding to this battle.

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41. "Well, well, well, well, over 30..."
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Joe is thirsty for attention and pulling stunts to keep his name circulating. No artist with any integrity disses another artist out of jealously due to uninspired music selling.

  

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44. "Hmmm...interesting. I would think the same. But Joe isn't really..."
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trying to blow up off this.

He just seems like a rapper rapping. I don't listening to his music. Just the podcast. But he seems to be doing just fine (better than a lot of people who claim rapping as a profession) without this beef.

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61. "Drake fucked up"
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I know he is teflon with his fan base but anyone who is a fan of rap knows damn well Drake might have bit off more than he can chew.

but even if Joe murks him Drake fans will cop a million pleas about how Drake let him win.

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74. "Those Drake pleas were already out before Joe rhymed. "
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76. "They arent even listening to the diss records...lol"
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busy typing out pleas for why Drake already won

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60. "umm, it happens all the time in rap homie"
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and Drake fucked up by taking the bait.

joe got nothing but raps and time these days...

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59. "gotdamn that's a lot of excuses"
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48. "Good Lawd.. This could be Amazing if Drake steps up"
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30. "This place is so flip-floppish.. Joe Goes Hard"
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34. "NO."
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45. "Joe rapping his ass off on that new one"
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But that doesn't mean anything because the content of the diss is ducking weird. All he's ever been saying really well is that he's disappointed in Aubrey that he can't be critical of his album, he's still see's himself as a friend to him, he wants to hang out, your not a tough guy but Jpe is but I won't hurt you cause we are friends, the people around you aren't friends I'm your friend, I didn't like your album but I'm still your friend, hahaha it's all fucking weird.

  

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46. "yea that's my only issue with all of this"
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His angle is just mad weird


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47. "is it really that weird though?"
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this whole thing, far as i can tell, stemmed from Budden critiquing Views on his podcast, and saying that while it was kew that he expected more from Drake and plus they homies (or were homies) so he can say that and he was coming from a place of Drake being the guy that can keep moving rap forward so he was especially disappointed that Views was weak.

THEN, from that, Joe heard No Shopping in a IG clip French Montana had posted and heard he was dissed. So, Drake actually dissed first but the song didn't come out (yet). Joe's perspective was "okay you already dissed me whenever the song drops or even if it never drops, so i'm just gonna come out and diss you first (at least publicly - excluding the IG post i mean).

now Joe just wants to battle so he keeps dissin' Drake trying to get him to jump. that's a little corny i suppose but the origin of Joe's first diss wasn't to me - he was just responding to what Drake already did cuz Drake was in his feelings about his former mentor/buddy/whatever's critique of his album.

  

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49. "there's no evidence of them being that cool tho"
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Joe interviewed him back when he was on the cusp of blowing up and Drake showed him love

Other than that it seems like they just got an industry relationship

Never heard Drake shout him out in songs or interviews

Drake shows him love whenever they in the same venue and they've messed with the same chiks

Jor did a whole roll out for that podcast and hulk Hogan'd for a whole hour

Thats a bit much for a critique

All that 'I love dude' and 'that's my nygga' talk is sugarcoat'n fake shyt

He dissed the nyggas work because Drake ain't make an album he wanted to hear from him

Drake dissed him as he should have

And that's what Joe wanted him to do from the gate


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53. "RE: there's no evidence of them being that cool tho"
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U guys r overthinking this...It's hip hop...

If u know someone disses u, u get back at them. It's really that simple. Joe gave a benign critique of a very soft Drake album on a podcast ...Drake, as usual, got in his feelings and answered back ON RECORD....So Joe wanted to make sure he got his "beef" with Drizzy (after hearing the track) out there first because he's seen how today's music fans only care about popularity and would have rode your boy's dick not knowing the full story...

Whether they are friends or not is moot....Joe Budden, even on his most dislikable, asshole days, is a emcee....Pure and simple....He's doing him....

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54. "LOL @ the point of a "beef" not making sense a moot point"
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Yeah. Just say you don't like Drake already and stop trying to make Joe's reasoning not weird and made up.

FYI the Pusha lines in that second verse are FIRE. Only real shit he's said in the whole battle so far. But to be fair, from the understanding from everyone in our city, Drake and OVO didn't say nothing to Pusha because of the relationship with Ye. Which there was already tension there because of other things between the 2 camps.

  

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55. "are you dense? i mean, i know you snuggle Drake's balls on OKP..."
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but c'mon. let whatever relationship you have w/ them OVO dudes and your city not cloud your vision.

>Yeah. Just say you don't like Drake already and stop trying
>to make Joe's reasoning not weird and made up.

made up? dog, you must be missing the point that Drake fired first. Joe just got out in front of the bullet before it could hit since it was on French's song that wasn't out til now.

so while it looks like Joe's just antagonizing Drake to start a beef, all he's doing is merely responding.

  

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56. "Fired first when?"
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if your supposed to be a "friend" or someone you are cool with, and you publicly state or say to our common circle of friends, that the next man is slipping on the job .....thats firing first.

All for clicks and streams? C'mon bruh.

Joe is not a journalist, stop pretending he was doing his job. He's fucking calculated and he knew what he was doing. Talk about being dense.

  

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58. "on No Shopping. Drake's Budden diss was * IN * French's..."
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IG video like a month ago.

so Budden dropped his Drake diss (Making A Murderer?) as a response, it just happened that he did it before French and his people put the song out (which just premiered on OVO radio this weekend I think).

Drake fired first, it just doesn't look like he did to the public who aren't aware of the IG video (which I believe French took down).

edit: don't know what Budden not being a journalist has to do with responding to someone who dissed you.

  

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72. "Drake can sing, act, rap and have ghost writers but Joe cant have a podc..."
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65. "RE: Fired first when?"
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Come on man...U smarter than this....

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63. "RE: LOL @ the point of a "beef" not making sense a moot point"
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>Yeah. Just say you don't like Drake already and stop trying
>to make Joe's reasoning not weird and made up.



Dog...I like the Drake from his first two to three albums....But truthfully, I don't have any issues with Drake himself other than him getting pissy during that whole Kendrick flap...

Other than that, I gave him dap for destroying Meek Mill (that was some surgical shit...)...He spanked that boy...lol

My real critique has always been with Drake's fans who thinks he walks on water....

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66. "pssssssssst..."
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>My real critique has always been with Drake's fans who thinks
>he walks on water....

Heinz is one of those.

  

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70. "lol@ benign"
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Nygga dedicated a whole podcast to trashing that album complete with a roll out of IG clips.

He doesn't ever record his podcast btw but he just happened to record this one

He knew what he was doing.

He's a rapper 1st

This ain't elliot Wilson critiquing an album

This is another rapper shyt'n on ur hard work and questioning your heart, skill and dedication for an hour

A whole show

Not no 5-10 minute segment on some 'yea I ain't feeling it.. could've been better etc etc

It makes it even worse if they were actually cool like he says because that shyt should've been done personally

That's like one of ur writing homies u got a personal relationship with writing a think piece on how shytty ur latest article is and linking em up on all the hiphop blogs

And then turned around and said yea I'm only doing this cause I want u to write better

U wouldn't feel no way?

So yea Drake addressed him in that French song

Which is what Joe wanted so he could get this shyt off his chest and promote himself

He dropped that Fab/Tory Lanez single the same time he did MAMPT1

He's more calculated than yal give him credit for

He baited him with the podcast because he couldn't come out the blue dissing him without being called a crazy ass hater trying to get attention

If u listen to his podcast he's let that be known how calculated he is and has praised Drake for being the same way

This shyt is well thought out

He's had roll outs for all these diss records complete with album art

He's been waiting for this moment







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50. "Yeah its fucking weird. Cause real friends havent talked shit about him"
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in public....if they had an issue with his music..and some have, they say it in person. TO HIM. In that interview with Zane he talked about Theo (his photographer and now good friend in the OVO camp) that when they recorded Hotline Bling he didnt see it. He didn't go out and made podcast episodes and post tweets about it regardless of the outcome.

  

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51. "don't know what you're saying."
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i'm saying if someone disses you then clapping back at them isn't weird.

this is what happened here.

what caused the original diss? cuz Joe said he didn' enjoy Drake's album and Drake got in his feelings about that so he talked shit about him on No Shopping.

  

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64. "Drake fans have created an alternate universe for hip hop logic"
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shit is amazing.

it's hip hop, these fools giving the definition of friends and shit.








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67. "RE: Drake fans have created an alternate universe for hip hop logic"
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>shit is amazing.
>
>it's hip hop, these fools giving the definition of friends and
>shit.


It makes a lot of sense though....This is a new era of hip-hop....The old receipts have been burned to a crisp...

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69. "this is just similar to the LL, Canibus rap beef"
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where Canibus went in on LL and LL fans were talking about records sold and lip licking and shit.

Drake fans have the passive aggressive shit down to a science. Somehow Drake won this round. I don't know how but Drake fans will tell us.

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68. "they can't stand it. that's when logic goes out the window."
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71. "i must of missed podcast being put in the 5 pilars of Hiphop meeting"
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Same nyggas that called Drake all kinds of pussy and passive aggressive for mentioning Kendrick in interviews

On some it's just a podcast when Joe dedicate an hour shyt'n on his work


Double standards is crazy
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73. "So now Drake fans want rules and hip hop edicate?"
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I guarantee if Drake's diss record was flames you wouldnt give a shit about a podcast

Joe got in that ass... lol

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75. "I was stanning for Joe on here way before Drake"
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Miss me with that

My issue is with yal double standards

Let's stay focused

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77. "You sound... Afraid"
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Lets talk about friendship
lets talk about double standards
lets talk about anything but these gotdamn darts Joe is throwing at Drake.

Drake needs to move on cause he prolly wont win this battle



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79. "nygga u the one in here addressing Drake wtf"
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Man get gone lol

Nyggas is weird yo





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78. "now i'll be honest i don't recall the whole Drake/Kendrick thing that we..."
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but i think we're talking about two different standards, not double standards.

first of all, Drake was throwing 'bliminals. then when asked he was kind of shitting on Kendrick. (again, this is my shaky memory chiming in here)

Joe coming right out and saying it. also, he loves Drake, he just asking him to be better and Drake got mad.

it's more like apples and oranges to me.

either way, Drake got mad a peer said his album could be better (didn't say it was wack...just that it could be better) and decided to diss. Joe fired back.

  

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80. "I ain't repeating myself"
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Joe knew what he was doing

I'm a fan

Like I kno how he moves

The podcast was a diss

He's not naive

It's crazy that yal r being that way

Like back on 2010 when he was video blogging his reactions to emcee rankings and was saying Meth ain't spitting like that anymore and was ranked too high. He got ran up on by the Wu (which most of yal was saying was warranted) he was naive.

Ever since he's been very careful on how he addresses rappers and their work

He knew what he was doing

And got the reaction he wanted.






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81. "basically...like all of a sudden Budden isnt a calculated weirdo"
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so odd to me.

  

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82. "Mickey Factz throws his hat in the ring"
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https://soundcloud.com/mickey-factz/eye-witness-produced-by-nottz

  

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83. "Joe Budden threatens to kill kids for knowing where he lives"
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https://twitter.com/ComplexMusic/status/757361567453351936

https://twitter.com/KarenCivil/status/757364511275745280

  

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84. "lol why he do that?"
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86. "Dude is named Mickey Factz. I'm just saying"
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93. "should've signed to Star Trak the way u cling on(Klingon) shyt"
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And I ain't worried about a fight

U only swing on chiks..



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94. "When ya former homie who hid while you got snuffed disses you..."
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I don't get hip hop anymore.

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96. "he supposed to catch an ass whooping for a tour mate?"
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Because they wasn't homies






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87. "LL VS Canibus"
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This is so similar to that beef

Canibus is on the track with LL and says a line like "LL give me that mic on your arm" of course im paraphrasing....

LL took offense to it and eric sermon had canibus change his verse.

but Ll dissed Canibus on his verse and never changed it. after that canibus made the dis song and the beef was on.. in the end LL never was phased by the battle because he was selling more records.

I see this playing out the same way.. drake will still be drake after this..

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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88. "You have a good point"
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This is very similar. One major difference is LL struck first on some sneak shit.

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89. "Yeah BUT, LL lost his TV show over that silly ballet too."
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90. "huh? "
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91. "You know i meant battle ... LOL"
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92. "Man, ballet works fine there. What's this about losing his show over the..."
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I have never heard that before.

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100. "I was talking losing the show over the battle. "
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never heard that one before.

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95. "Yeah, but LL spit bars, was down to battle, & named names"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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97. "Drake brought Eminem out in Detroit last night"
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he's destroying Joe Budden mentally

  

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98. "seems more like a loss for Ebro and them"
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being that they started the rumor
that Em was going to go t Drake

I dont think Joe has even made mention of Em
throughout the "beef"

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99. "Eminem is Joe's "boss" at Shady Records"
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standing on stage with his rival of the moment has to hurt

  

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101. "looks like a bitch move by Drake"
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instead of responding on wax he brings out Em on stage?

this dude is always doing weird shit when someone bodies him on a track.

if Joe's diss record was half ass Drake would have went in on dude.

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102. "they're not playing on the same level or by the same rules"
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Drake dissed Meek because it was an easy win
Joe Budden is a desperate rapper whose livelihood depended on a Drake response. If Drake responds to your dis record, that makes you relevant again and gives you more chances to go back and forth
He's choking the life out of him slowly by ignoring him publicly, taunting him with DMs and bringing out his benefactor on stage

meanwhile Budden is giving the middle with his arm around a dude way beneath Drake https://twitter.com/JuChainz/status/765761708967260163

  

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105. "I'm old... I just want the raps"
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podcast, DM's, Twitter beef... not interested.

if it aint on wax... it aint real

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107. "Joe's livelihood does not depend on Drake in any way. Stop."
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>Drake dissed Meek because it was an easy win
>Joe Budden is a desperate rapper whose livelihood depended on
>a Drake response.

It doesn't though.

In fact a Drake response wouldn't affect Joe all that much either way. Joe has a particular lane that really isn't going to move a whole lot either way.

I don't really see him being "desperate to stay relevant" or how his livelihood somehow depends on Drake responding. In fact I don't see how Joe's initial barrage could be construed as any of the above to anyone familiar with his career.

If you were someone who just sees him as a has been who did that one song over a Just Blaze beat a decade ago then I could see how you could arrive at that conclusion.

If Drake responds to your dis record, that
>makes you relevant again and gives you more chances to go back
>and forth
>He's choking the life out of him slowly by ignoring him
>publicly, taunting him with DMs and bringing out his
>benefactor on stage

LOL man Drake isn't choking the life out of anyone. Joe *might* be able to pull a slight bump in interest over more Drake responses but that wouldn't be anything significant. But Drake isn't "choking the life" out of anyone, slowly or otherwise.

  

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103. "True, Em probably has obligations to fulfill to his Boss Jimmy Iovine "
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Jimmy runs apple music
Drake is Apple Music's Marquee artist
Drake calls Jimmy Jimmy calls Em


do you think Diddy is mad that
French has a song with Drake right now
when Drake was dissing diddy all through 4pm in calabassas

these new rapper alliances are weird

same with sports

I think with rap and sports the fans are more
caught up and attached to it than they are

its a win for Joe havent listened to his music since
mood muzik 3 but now ppl are talking about him again
i still probably wont check for his new album tough

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104. "Drake and Em already have a relationship"
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He had him on one of his biggest hits and brought him out at the first OVO fest. i don't think he needed Jimmy to call anyone.

If Jimmy could tell Eminem what to do, it definitely wouldn't be this lol it would to get your ass back in the studio

  

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106. "Jimmy would have both do an album together"
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