they put messages out telling people to kill civilians wherever you are, then pledge allegiance to them...and people are doing it...all over the world

not in great numbers (other than Orlando) but still...it's happening. and it's getting worse. and it's scary

I don't want to die cuz some stupid fuck wants to impress ISIS

it makes me want to not go to public events where people gather...which is exactly what they want, i know

*sigh*

what the fuck is wrong with human beings that we actually seek to kill each other as a solution to ANYTHING? we fucking suck as a species

d

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We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

different story.
But here and now? Meh...

be saying the same thing, but about the American military.

Drone strike fatalities are 90% innocent civilians, 10% actual ISIS SUSPECTS.

I am not trying to be a "terrorist" sympathizer, but when we are blowing up towns and villages and families how are we to expect a group of human beings NOT to get radicalized. This Nat Turner movie is coming out, and it is about a violent faith based insurgency....they would be ISIS in this regard. They don't hate us for our freedom, they hate us because we are destroying them, for oil , resources, and political manipulation.

what's so bad is people think Trump is a monster because he said he wanted to kill ISIS' family members, but we are already doing that, and just regular family members. We need to reevaluate our entire role in our relationship to them, and our foreign policy agenda.

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they purposefully hide in civilian-dense areas to maximize casualties and keep the cycle going

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-strikes_us_561fafe2e4b028dd7ea6c4ff

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/15/90-of-people-killed-by-us-drone-strikes-in-afghani/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4NRJoCNHIs

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Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!

We don't play a part in destablizing and radicalizing that area. I mean that they turn on other Muslims who aren't down with their fundamentalism (because ALL Muslims are universally the same after all) is clearly an indication that they are just crazy.

Shit like that doesn't happen over here, even without the drone strikes. You so smart.

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The shyt was going to pop off eventually with or without our involvmeet

We ain't do shyt in Nigeria..

Algeria..

Egypt etc

It's way more complicated than drone strikes created ISIS


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religious fundamentalism is not new to the region.

neither is US intervention and manipulation.

YES, we are targeted because of our presence in these areas from a militaristic standpoint. However the reason why other places are targeted is because of failed occupations/interventions/manipulations in trying to arm people and have them turn on other nations on our behalf. Sometimes it works, except now the insurgency you armed takes it too far, or turns on you and you end up with the extremist factions. ISIS was not solely created by drone strikes, I don't want to imply that. However, I do want to re-contextualize the original assertion in this post, which was living in fear of ISIS.

In many ways people on the other side of the conversation have the same sentiment about our presence, and that only feeds into the radicalism. If we were to change our foreign policy agenda I believe it would help in subduing some of the radicalism. You will never wipe out an ideology, but it won't seem as attractive if we don't fuel them with obscenities on our behalf to recruit around. Other Muslims and areas are targeted as well, with no drone strikes, because it is based in their fundamentalist estimation of what a true "Muslim" is. So no, we are not the sole victims of ISIS, but I find the Muslims in nearby areas to ISIS to have the DOUBLE fear of ISIS and US, where they daily fight on this life or death matter. Americans for the most part are either oblivious or apathetic, until of course matters his close to "home".

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You make it sound like they don't have the ability to not seek to murder, just because the West has done XYZ over time.

I am not trying to say that it is a one to one correspondence as in our presence and their existence. They are already a faction, but our presence has only destabilized the area, armed them, and emboldened the recruitment. We seem to feel the fix is to bomb the shit out of them, whether Trump or Clinton, but that is what has gotten us into this pit. This is NOT the approach we should be taking. What they are doing is deplorable, but it is hard for us to make that argument and point fingers when we helped start it and our positions and "retaliations" are just as problematic.

People hate Trump for saying we should murder their family members, but we are already doing way worse than that.

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>I am not trying to be a "terrorist" sympathizer, but when we
>are blowing up towns and villages and families how are we to
>expect a group of human beings NOT to get radicalized. This
>Nat Turner movie is coming out, and it is about a violent
>faith based insurgency....they would be ISIS in this regard.

HORRIBLE analogy. do you realize all the horrifying shit ISIS is doing to people in Syria & Iraq, not just attacking western targets?

>They don't hate us for our freedom, they hate us because we
>are destroying them, for oil , resources, and political
>manipulation.

were the Yazidis they are trying to exterminate in Iraq & Syria trying to destroy them for oil? did the African migrants they decapitated in Libya politically manipulate them for resources?

ISIS is not the fucking Rebel Alliance man.

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Yes, I do. ISIS has its own agenda outside of the Western intervention. However WE in our actions help them push their fundamentalism via our military intervention. As a result, as they are further emboldened to take their position as well as look to convert or exterminate persons who either don't fit their narrative of "true Islam" or appear to be Western sympathizers. I feel that if the US weren't being so terrible in the region then it would help the peoples on that front make the West more defendable. Our role in ISIS can't be understated, nor ignored by Americans who now feel fear when we my many accounts are "terrorists" in and of our own right.

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we do so many things each day that are more likely to kill us than showing up at a public event.

and solving isis is a lot simpler than solving a lot of our other problems. if we don't foster hate here, then we don't grow terrorists here.

or driving on highways



way more likely to die from doing either one of those then getting murked by some Johnny Jihads

this is the society that has been created and developed...and i'm not sure
if it can be stopped from itself.

Not ISIS, not the Klan, not the police, not gangs, not the church, not politicians ... very little will change how I choose to spend my breaths.

But your fear is understandable. Wish you the best.

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i'll push through as well...i won't change the way i live, but i am scared.

d

There were 43 +additional+ shootings across US the day of the Orlando shooting


And yesterday, yes 24 hrs after, a militia/doomsday prepper/sovereign citizen punk shot his 3 neighbors in west virginia

With a (most likely legally-purchased) ar-15.


The scary part abt isis is who may/may not be behind them and who allows them to exist


And the Orlando guy, was part isis, part nypd roid cop, part repressed gay feelings, part mental illness, etc

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have you given yourself room to think bout other things?

but i have a tremendous amount of empathy for human suffering...it all affects me deeply...and as much as a part of me say i should avoid news reports about Orlando, Palestine, deplorable juvenile facilities, sex trafficking, other murders, rapes and genocides, to ease my own suffering..i can't and it feels selfish to just protect my own heart. i feel like i'm not supposed to, somehow. like the nature of us being human is to be connected to each other through all that we experience...and that maybe if it affected more people this way, less of that stuff would happen..that maybe this level of sensitivity is what we're all supposed to be like to honor life. (no not saying i'm some kind of ideal person..i'm definitely not)

i know, i'm weird. i'm still trying to figure out the right balance...

d

like they under hypnosis after hearing their rhetoric..blindly. Suicide bombing, maiming, massacring

yeah i don't understand how a person who never killed anyone before can just up and kill dozens..one after another...deliberately...

even if i somehow managed to kill one person, accidentally or purposely, i'd be a mess...20 or more? hell no...i just couldn't get through it...

d

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whenever you did these things to the least of my brothers you did them to me

You're four times more likely to be struck by lightning.

110 times more likely to die of food poisoning.

You're nearly twice as likely to be killed by a toddler.

So unless you get mortally worried about every single thing you pass on a daily basis, you can probably get on with your life without letting the tur'ists win.

Terrorism's main strength is its ability to make people entirely lose their sense of perspective. Don't fall for it. If you're going to worry about things, worry about heart disease and cancer.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Through out history there has been movements and idealogies that attracted crazy folks and gave them excuses to kill people.

30 years ago it would have been hidden messages in heavy metal records.

What's different now is access to guns and terrible mental health care.

Imagine if Charles Manson and his crew could have gotten a bunch of AR-15s?



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

crazy and imbalanced gonna crazy and imbalanced.

I can't allow that base level shit to affect me.

No one is promised tomorrow...I have greater fears like "When is the cable getting shut off?" and "Is that really my baby?"...you know....REAL LIVE NIGGA SHIT!

Anyway...jokes aside, I hear you but in the end...I guess you have to decide what you are willing to fear.

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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

I have to go through lower manhattan, then downtown brooklyn, then the hooooood. Once, my train makes it through downtown brooklyn, i feel safe....from terrorism that is.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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Frnaklin lol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

I feel you about getting to atlantic though

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

stuff is scary but you can't stop enjoying life. Taking reasonable precautions is one thing.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

do you mean like paying attention to where exits are and staying near them?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

whether its for something terror related, someone crazy, or random crime/acts of violence.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

i've travelled to numerous countries with travel advisories
and some places on that list are laughable.

you cannot predict a terror attack.


however, i think the u.s needs to be on a travel advisory list itself

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this dude wasn't about that life like that. he hated himself for practicing HISlam and kirked out. even from gun violence, folks are much more likely to get bagged by an ex boyfriend on some domestic shit, restraining order or nah.

that shit is routine. notice we don't even talk about al kie duh any more.


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not having much to show for it. (c) mad

>that shit is routine. notice we don't even talk about al kie
>duh any more.

true..good point

d

>they put messages out telling people to kill civilians
>wherever you are, then pledge allegiance to them...and people
>are doing it...all over the world


Again, I feel as if there are more reports using ISIS and ISIL than actual ISIS and ISIL events. I am Black and Muslim and have not heard, been approached or anything involving this crap.
>
>not in great numbers (other than Orlando) but still...it's
>happening. and it's getting worse. and it's scary
I still feel Orlando was in no way an "ISIS" thing. I read an article yesterday (posted on #thatothersite) that showed during the 911 calls, and in his past history the man claimed everything from ISIS to the Taliban.
>
>I don't want to die cuz some stupid fuck wants to impress
>ISIS

I somehow do not feel like that will be an issue.
>
>it makes me want to not go to public events where people
>gather...which is exactly what they want, i know
>
>*sigh* Then don't let terror win, whether at home or abroad.
>
>what the fuck is wrong with human beings that we actually seek
>to kill each other as a solution to ANYTHING? we fucking suck
>as a species

Always have. The idea of slavery and genocide has been part of the human existence from ye olden times.

>
>d

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>Again, I feel as if there are more reports using ISIS and ISIL
>than actual ISIS and ISIL events. I am Black and Muslim and
>have not heard, been approached or anything involving this
>crap.

based on reports i've seen, their new MO is not to directly contact anyone and that they don't care if people are Muslim or not..they want anyone to commit acts in their name...and specifically in places like Australia, France, the US and Canada...

and after they put out that first directive via Facebook and twitter in 2014, attacks began the very next day..and their most recent missive was a month ago

the people that are curious about them and want to help them are the ones that seek out what they have to say, then potentially commit these acts.

>I somehow do not feel like that will be an issue.
>>

i hope you are right.

>Always have. The idea of slavery and genocide has been part of
>the human existence from ye olden times.

so basically, we've always sucked as a species lol

d

i feel a lot better.

it felt like i had a bunch of big brothers and big sisters looking out for me...haven't felt like this after making a post in a long time

truly appreciate every one of you that replied.

*bows*

d

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For example, we are more fearful of airline travel than automobile travel because we have less control over the outcome.

I think it is rational to be more frazzled by being killed by terrorist than a hoodlum with a gun even though the liklihood of getting killed by a kid with a gun is because if you spent enough time in the city you have an idea of things you can do to minimize or lessen that risk. These terrorist killings seem random af.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

The police trigger happy police officer on the other hand with the racist white people teeth is the guy you need to watch...

I racially profile racist white people all the time. All of you people that clutch your purses, suck your teeth, and carry guns are getting profiled. I'm quick to alert authorities upon encountering one of these people.

since you are way more likely to die at the hands of a black kid with a gun.


>The police trigger happy police officer on the other hand
>with the racist white people teeth is the guy you need to
>watch...
>
>I racially profile racist white people all the time. All of
>you people that clutch your purses, suck your teeth, and carry
>guns are getting profiled. I'm quick to alert authorities upon
>encountering one of these people.
>
>


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>since you are way more likely to die at the hands of a black
>kid with a gun.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5b6/t/569534449cadb69b288bedee/1452618828280/2015policekillingsunarmed.jpeg?format=1500w

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men

Despite making up only 2% of the total US population, African American males between the ages of 15 and 34 comprised more than 15% of all deaths logged this year by an ongoing investigation into the use of deadly force by police. Their rate of police-involved deaths was five times higher than for white men of the same age.

Paired with official government mortality data, this new finding indicates that about one in every 65 deaths of a young African American man in the US is a killing by police.

“This epidemic is disproportionately affecting black people,” said Brittany Packnett, an activist and member of the White House taskforce on policing. “We are wasting so many promising young lives by continuing to allow this to happen.”

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/

Key Findings:

Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths)

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population

Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015

Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be sentenced May 31.

102 of us were unarmed and killed by police last year.

The chances are slim as fuck bruh.

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>102 of us were unarmed and killed by police last year.
>
>The chances are slim as fuck bruh.
>
>

.. pulled over for racial profiling. The chances aren't as slim as you think since police pull us over and harass us far more than anyone else. Go read the data on stop and frisk where NYPD pulled over every black male in NYC ages 18-30.

police than other black people are you?


That's not what you really trying to say is it?


What them statistics you cited have to do with anything we talking about?


You want to rethink this one?





>>since you are way more likely to die at the hands of a
>black
>>kid with a gun.
>
>http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5b6/t/569534449cadb69b288bedee/1452618828280/2015policekillingsunarmed.jpeg?format=1500w
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men
>
>Despite making up only 2% of the total US population, African
>American males between the ages of 15 and 34 comprised more
>than 15% of all deaths logged this year by an ongoing
>investigation into the use of deadly force by police. Their
>rate of police-involved deaths was five times higher than for
>white men of the same age.
>
>Paired with official government mortality data, this new
>finding indicates that about one in every 65 deaths of a young
>African American man in the US is a killing by police.
>
>“This epidemic is disproportionately affecting black
>people,” said Brittany Packnett, an activist and member of
>the White House taskforce on policing. “We are wasting so
>many promising young lives by continuing to allow this to
>happen.”
>
>http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/
>
>Key Findings:
>
>Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015,
>nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were
>responsible for these deaths)
>
>Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were
>identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely
>higher due to underreporting
>
>37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015
>despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population
>
>Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed
>whites in 2015
>
>Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person
>was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with
>a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric
>Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1
>of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew
>Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year
>in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on
>weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be
>sentenced May 31.
>


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>police than other black people are you?
>
>
>That's not what you really trying to say is it?
>
>
>What them statistics you cited have to do with anything we
>talking about?
>
>
>You want to rethink this one?

All I said was stop perpetuating conservative talking points. FYI that same category is 82.4 percent for white people killing white people and they make up a far, far, far, bigger amount of the population. Once again, you're better than furthering conservative narratives about black crime and violence.

When ISIS kills black people at the 7.6 percent clip that white people kill black people then I'll consider fearing them.

If ISIS starts killing black people and getting found innocent all across the country for the most part then I'll fear ISIS.

FUCK ISIS just so we clear.

SMH at people being scared of ISIS. Once again, you, black person, have a better chance of dying by police at a random racially profiled police stop than you do of dying at the hands of ISIS. Don't co-sign conservative logic that contributes to religious profiling and hurting communities thanks to fear mongering.

to the post above that said you have a better chance of being killed by a black person than by the police.

to defending someone furthering conservative myths about black people.


"53. "If you go this route then trigger happy police are nothing to be afraid ..."
In response to Reply # 51
since you are way more likely to die at the hands of a black kid with a gun."

What were you saying about a failure in response? All my points stand are backed up by facts. Email the authors of those articles your witty responses.

The fact that black people are more likely to be the victims of police brutality than white people has nothing to do with whether a black person is more likely to die at the hands of a young black person than the police.


She said she is afriad of being killed by ISIS. You said you should be more afraid of Police (presumably because they kill more black people than ISIS) and I pointed out by that line of reason we all should be more afraid of other black people since they kill more black people than ISIS or Police.

Whether that is a conservative talking point has nothing to do with whether it's true or not.


We really reached the point we are scared to talk about black on black crime even among black people?



>to defending someone furthering conservative myths about
>black people.
>
>
>"53. "If you go this route then trigger happy police are
>nothing to be afraid ..."
>In response to Reply # 51
>since you are way more likely to die at the hands of a black
>kid with a gun."
>
>What were you saying about a failure in response? All my
>points stand are backed up by facts. Email the authors of
>those articles your witty responses.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>The fact that black people are more likely to be the victims
>of police brutality than white people has nothing to do with
>whether a black person is more likely to die at the hands of a
>young black person than the police.
>
>
>She said she is afriad of being killed by ISIS. You said you
>should be more afraid of Police (presumably because they kill
>more black people than ISIS) and I pointed out by that line of
>reason we all should be more afraid of other black people
>since they kill more black people than ISIS or Police.

I'm making plenty of sense as ISIS does not kill people at the same rate as police and white people in general. When ISIS kills as many black people as the police or kills them at the same pace as white people kill black people then she should fear them. Next point...
>
>We really reached the point we are scared to talk about black
>on black crime even among black people?

You black, whoops I never knew that. Anywhoo, discussing black on black crime amongst ourselves feeds into the conservative myth about black people and violence that ignores systemic racism and white supremacy. The black on black crime stat is higher because politicians have rigged this system to disenfranchise us over the course of decades with policies, drugs, and other methods. We need more opportunity in the form of legislation that bridges the gap for lost potential in the form of human captial and investment into our communities over the course of many decades. Additionally, the prison industrial complex that robs our communities of lost potential needs to be dismantled completely. Right now black people are used as human fuel to fund industries like prisons that contribute to our decline. If no opportunities exist then some black people are going to make them through illegal means in order to survive.

The absolute best thing we can do is provide opportunity for our youth to take different routes to sustainable lifestyles that involve them having jobs and forming families. There are people in this world actively working on this. I know a dude in Detroit doing his part as well. Us adults pass on our knowledge in hopes that the next generation has it easier than this one.

All my points stand as accurate and I could've worded them better but I'm not on the clock at the moment.

>I'm making plenty of sense as ISIS does not kill people at the
>same rate as police and white people in general.


Not true. Homey ISIS killed like 18,000 people in the last couple of years. Bono harem has killed like 6000 black people in the last couple of years. The police it's probably like maybe 1000 people in the same time frame (with a majority being white).


>When ISISkills as many black people as the police or kills them at
>the same pace as white people kill black people then she should
>fear them. Next point...

Right. (And this is where I am beating my head against a wall) But you do understand that by that logic, you should be more fearful of black people since they kill more black people than ISIS and Police?

Can you not see that point? It's an extension of your logic?

Why are you more fearful of police than ISIS? By your own admission it's because they kill more black people than ISIS. If you follow that line of thinking to it's logical conclusion you should be more fearful of black people sense they kill more black people than ISIS or police.

Do you follow that? You don't seem to.



>>
>>We really reached the point we are scared to talk about
>black
>>on black crime even among black people?
>
>You black, whoops I never knew that. Anywhoo, discussing black
>on black crime amongst ourselves feeds into the conservative
>myth about black people and violence that ignores systemic
>racism and white supremacy.

So you refuse to talk about Black on Black Crime? You know it's possible to discuss Black on Black Crime that doesn't ignore systemic racism and white supremecy though?

Be a grown up. Learn to talk about tough subjects. You don't do anyone any good to throw your head in the sand at the mere mention of black on black crime.




The black on black crime stat is
>higher because politicians have rigged this system to
>disenfranchise us over the course of decades with policies,
>drugs, and other methods. We need more opportunity in the form
>of legislation that bridges the gap for lost potential in the
>form of human captial and investment into our communities over
>the course of many decades. Additionally, the prison
>industrial complex that robs our communities of lost potential
>needs to be dismantled completely. Right now black people are
>used as human fuel to fund industries like prisons that
>contribute to our decline. If no opportunities exist then some
>black people are going to make them through illegal means in
>order to survive.
>
>The absolute best thing we can do is provide opportunity for
>our youth to take different routes to sustainable lifestyles
>that involve them having jobs and forming families. There are
>people in this world actively working on this. I know a dude
>in Detroit doing his part as well. Us adults pass on our
>knowledge in hopes that the next generation has it easier than
>this one.
>
>All my points stand as accurate and I could've worded them
>better but I'm not on the clock at the moment.

All this can be true and we can still talk about the problem of young black people killing other young black people. Again, you serve no one any good being afriad to mention true statistics.



**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>>I'm making plenty of sense as ISIS does not kill people at
>the
>>same rate as police and white people in general.
>
>
>Not true. Homey ISIS killed like 18,000 people in the last
>couple of years. Bono harem has killed like 6000 black people
>in the last couple of years. The police it's probably like
>maybe 1000 people in the same time frame (with a majority
>being white).
>
>
>>When ISISkills as many black people as the police or kills
>them at
>>the same pace as white people kill black people then she
>should
>>fear them. Next point...
>
>Right. (And this is where I am beating my head against a
>wall) But you do understand that by that logic, you should be
>more fearful of black people since they kill more black people
>than ISIS and Police?
>
>Can you not see that point? It's an extension of your logic?
>
>Why are you more fearful of police than ISIS? By your own
>admission it's because they kill more black people than ISIS.
>If you follow that line of thinking to it's logical conclusion
>you should be more fearful of black people sense they kill
>more black people than ISIS or police.
>
>Do you follow that? You don't seem to.

You raise great points but I'm talking about coordinated ISIS attacks in the US that specificially target black people. To answer your question, police can pullover black people routinely for made up reasons. We can be killed at any time without repercussions towards police officers. I cannot under any circumstances be scared of ISIS when my people are dying for no good reason at the hands of police officers in the USA. The conservative gun toting white guy is more harmful to my daily living than ISIS.

>>>We really reached the point we are scared to talk about
>>black
>>>on black crime even among black people?
>>
>>You black, whoops I never knew that. Anywhoo, discussing
>black
>>on black crime amongst ourselves feeds into the conservative
>>myth about black people and violence that ignores systemic
>>racism and white supremacy.
>
>So you refuse to talk about Black on Black Crime? You know
>it's possible to discuss Black on Black Crime that doesn't
>ignore systemic racism and white supremecy though?
>
>Be a grown up. Learn to talk about tough subjects. You don't
>do anyone any good to throw your head in the sand at the mere
>mention of black on black crime.

I can speak on any subject but usually the person that brings up black on black crime is white and trying to covertly slander me. They use the number to literally mean 90 percent of 30 million people kill each other and this is why I don't like talking about it. The second I come with some truth serum spitting facts to refute their 'cism then they shut up.

>The black on black crime stat is
>>higher because politicians have rigged this system to
>>disenfranchise us over the course of decades with policies,
>>drugs, and other methods. We need more opportunity in the
>form
>>of legislation that bridges the gap for lost potential in
>the
>>form of human captial and investment into our communities
>over
>>the course of many decades. Additionally, the prison
>>industrial complex that robs our communities of lost
>potential
>>needs to be dismantled completely. Right now black people
>are
>>used as human fuel to fund industries like prisons that
>>contribute to our decline. If no opportunities exist then
>some
>>black people are going to make them through illegal means in
>>order to survive.
>>
>>The absolute best thing we can do is provide opportunity for
>>our youth to take different routes to sustainable lifestyles
>>that involve them having jobs and forming families. There
>are
>>people in this world actively working on this. I know a dude
>>in Detroit doing his part as well. Us adults pass on our
>>knowledge in hopes that the next generation has it easier
>than
>>this one.
>>
>>All my points stand as accurate and I could've worded them
>>better but I'm not on the clock at the moment.
>
>All this can be true and we can still talk about the problem
>of young black people killing other young black people. Again,
>you serve no one any good being afriad to mention true
>statistics.

I love solutions to solving these problems. We as a race lack collective capital to solve this issue. History is filled with corpses of our leaders that tried to bring us together. I brought up a solution earlier. How do you feel we as a community can solve this problem.

>You raise great points but I'm talking about coordinated ISIS
>attacks in the US that specificially target black people. To
>answer your question, police can pullover black people
>routinely for made up reasons. We can be killed at any time
>without repercussions towards police officers. I cannot under
>any circumstances be scared of ISIS when my people are dying
>for no good reason at the hands of police officers in the USA.
>The conservative gun toting white guy is more harmful to my
>daily living than ISIS.


We get it. Cops kill more black americans than ISIS. You say that repeatedly and I am not contesting that.

But the point I repeatedly keep asking is since Black Americans kill more Black Americans than Cops, shouldn't you be more concerned at dying at the hands of a black person than dying at the hands of cops?



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

the atrocities committed by groups of unequal sizes.

~~~~~~~~
A bad Samaritan averaging above average men (c) DOOM

Then again, I actually witnessed a suicide bomber trying to take out two buddies of mine while they were in a tower. I guess being in that type of environment had helped *shrugs*.



Since 1976

your complacency..so you cant see it coming etc




>Then again, I actually witnessed a suicide bomber trying to
>take out two buddies of mine while they were in a tower. I
>guess being in that type of environment had helped *shrugs*.
>
>
>
>Since 1976

witness the destruction.

talk about it.

type about it.

this is what ISIS wants.

...

what do you want?

>witness the destruction.
>
>talk about it.
>
>type about it.
>
>this is what ISIS wants.
>
>...
>
>what do you want?

I refuse to let it change the way I live my life in any way. They are a fringe group still and the best way to combat them is not to fear them and to continue to embrace your fellow man. You have to be pretty desperate to associate with them, let alone in the way you're describing.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

There are a lot of angry, disenfranchised youth out there. There's also a lot of misinformation.

When there's no healthy outlet for frustration and no perception of progress in the many injustices in this world the mentally vulnerable are liable to crack.

These people aren't given anything bigger than themselves to participate in while feeling they have the same rights and levels of ownership as all the other participants. So what would it ever mean to them to tear those things down for others?

It's not ISIS, because white people are losing it and shooting shit up as well. Christians are doing dirt in Africa. Just because the mechanics and media that feed into their delusions are more subtle and insidious doesn't make it any less dangerous.

Engage these youths meaningfully and educate them better. It's got to be far more constructive than hand wringing fear. I suppose it's more boring to discuss though, so the cycle as it is now will continue.

Just IMO though.

One teaspoon of Super AIDS in your butt and you're dead in three years.