"I've come to the conclusion that working with women is just better"
for me. I think I would say in general as a man, it can be better working with women.
I've spent alot of my career working for older white men and that has been the pits for me (however, my wife always thrived working for older white guys, especially older jewish guys).
The boys club is real and black men aren't necessarily in that club (they can be but it's a certain type of black dude (i.e., jock-type).
It might be sexist to say but women colleagues tend to be more collaborative, less ego driven and even nurturing.
However, there is one huge exception. The childless driven careerist who had to fight her way through the boys club. That woman scares me. The same goes for the childless male boss but they are rarer (There was this one gay dude boss I know and he was brutal).
All that being said, the hardest I ever had to work for was a woman of color who lived for work and set out to get me fired when I wasn't willing to work like her.
What say you? Do you have any generalizations about who you like to work for?
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79554 posts
Thu May-12-16 10:18 AM
6. "huh? are you suggesting they should have black mentors? " In response to Reply # 2 Thu May-12-16 10:21 AM by legsdiamond
maybe they had Black mentors in college and they are trying to get out of their comfort zone?
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79554 posts
Fri May-13-16 10:37 AM
50. "but you side eyed your brother for his HBCU and working with a black jud..." In response to Reply # 14
at least that's how it read.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
3. "I don't like working anywhere without a decent balance" In response to Reply # 0 Thu May-12-16 10:27 AM by veritas
Too many men and they end up on some bullshit, but same is true (from my experience) with too many women.
A 60/40 split or better one way or the other keeps everyone honest.
Edit: and preferably a split with a relatively equal power balance too. All one gender (more often, but not exclusively men) in positions of power with all the other gender as support staff is no good either.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79554 posts
Thu May-12-16 10:17 AM
4. "I can work with anyone as long as they aren't an asshole" In response to Reply # 0
and I can work with them too.
my only struggle is the robot who doesn't show emotion at all. I can't read them, they never laugh, small talk, etc.
Those people scare me.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
5. "I've mostly worked directly under women" In response to Reply # 0 Thu May-12-16 10:28 AM by Cenario
i've had them all from power tripping man haters to having a great relationship with lightweight to direct flirting.
I def prefer to work WITH women but it has nothing to do with the actual work. Although I find offices with alot of women tend to have some petty beef that doesn't really exist with male counterparts.
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>The childless driven careerist who had to fight her way through the boys club. That woman scares me.
I guess the grass is always greener. As a woman who has worked in orgs with mostly woman, it can suck as well. All decisions aren't a personal slight because I'm a woman. Yes, I respect your opinion and will truly consider your feedback and offer empathy, but just cause we gals don't mean I need this Oprah-style meeting with you at lunch because I'm not doing what you want as the PM. Group think is real where ever you are and it impacts the company culture.
A female friend who has a pretty mellow personality recently told me her female boss brought up her lack of emoticons and exclamation points in email correspondence during a 90-day review. She didn't know how to take her emails and specifically requested she use more: WTF.
17. "i had an older black female boss once.." In response to Reply # 0
by far my most awful experience her and I were the only minorties at the top she micro managed to make sure our stuff was on my point and was not a team player that didn't work in the environment we were in I ended up quitting...
20. "I disagree. Man to Man relationship works at the job if you " In response to Reply # 0 Thu May-12-16 11:26 AM by Crisco
have respect. I prefer working for men because I know I can approach at anytime if I feel something needs to be discussed. Whether it be work related or an attitude adjustment. If I sense my male Boss is not happy with me I have no problem pulling him to the side and asking him what's up. If I have a female boss I have to wait for her to be having a good day. Women are more emotional.
That being said I've had good male and female bosses. But anytime I had a sh*tty boss that was a micro Manager, Or a mean idiot it was always a woman.
If I had a company I would higher all straight males, IN my age range or younger that have a zest for life. Drama free work environment for sure.
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23. "RE: I disagree. Man to Man relationship works at the job if you " In response to Reply # 20
> If I >sense my male Boss is not happy with me I have no problem >pulling him to the side and asking him what's up. If I have a >female boss I have to wait for her to be having a good day. >Women are more emotional.
30. "RE: OKMen that prefer Female Bosses yall are not players are u?" In response to Reply # 28
>I'm thinking dudes that like working for females are probably >the one woman at a time types or the I can't get laid types. > >And dudes like me that are basically players see their female >boss and think, C'mon Ma, you know you want to smash. LOL > >Therefore giving off the aura of shouldn't you be in my >kitchen cooking me and sandwich instead of bossing me around. > > >I know, I know....Shut up Crisco
31. "If you had your way you would work with a bunch of zesty young mens." In response to Reply # 28
>I'm thinking dudes that like working for females are probably >the one woman at a time types or the I can't get laid types. > >And dudes like me that are basically players see their female >boss and think, C'mon Ma, you know you want to smash. LOL > >Therefore giving off the aura of shouldn't you be in my >kitchen cooking me and sandwich instead of bossing me around. > > >I know, I know....Shut up Crisco
According to you, that's the key to a "drama free" environment. So I'll just say I don't really understand your way of thinking.
33. "Nah you said Zesty I said a Zest for life meaning positive " In response to Reply # 31
attitudes. Get it right
I've worked in all male IT departments where all the dudes where about having fun. And then this one dude with depression and anxiety issues joined the group and F*cked it all up. Started dragging people to EEO for discrimination BS that he conjured up in his head from peeps joking with him.
Hence Dudes that have all their faculties and no worries in the world are the best ones to work with.
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38. "you have got to be gay or something" In response to Reply # 28
because all of this posturing when you're not even cute to probably 85% of the female population is just disconcerting.
>And dudes like me that are basically players see their female >boss and think, C'mon Ma, you know you want to smash. LOL > >Therefore giving off the aura of shouldn't you be in my >kitchen cooking me and sandwich instead of bossing me around.
someone needs to check you basement/backyard because this kind of disconnect with reality has got to be clue to some real deep issues.
29. "I've always worked in departments where I'm the only" In response to Reply # 0
Or one of a handful of men and I've had all good experiences. I don't chalk it up to gender tho...just my keeping to myself and not sharing personal details with coworkers.
I got close to one female coworker once but I had to dead the friendship about a year ago.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79554 posts
Fri May-13-16 10:33 AM
49. "blows the whistle... " In response to Reply # 46
goes to the replay monitor...
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