Bill Clinton knocks ‘awful legacy’ of last 8 years
Donovan Slack, USA TODAY 10:07 a.m. EDT March 22, 2016

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/21/bill-clinton-knocks-obamas-awful-legacy/82094792/

Former President Bill Clinton, stumping on behalf of his wife in Washington state on Monday, urged people to vote for Hillary Clinton “if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us.”

It was not initially* clear if it was an unintended gaffe or something he meant to say, but it didn’t take long for Republicans to seize on it and post the clip to YouTube. Here’s the full quote:

“I literally from the time I met her 45 years ago ‘til we talked yesterday, she is the best change-maker I have ever known. She always finds a way to make something good happen, to make people feel empowered, to buy people into the process, to make democracy work the way the framers intended for it to work.

Now, if you don’t believe we can all grow together again, if you don’t believe we're ever going to grow again, if you believe it’s more important to re-litigate the past, there may be many reasons that you don’t want to support her.

But if you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that when we were practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash, then you should vote for her because she’s the only person who basically had good ideas will tell you how she’s going to pay for them, can be commander in chief and is a proven change maker with republicans and democrats and independents alike.”

*Update: An aide to Bill Clinton says the legacy he was referring to was Republicans' obstructionism.

"When Republicans controlled the White House, their trickle-down approach drove our economy to the brink of a collapse. After President Obama was elected, Republicans made it their number one goal to block him at every turn," spokesman Angel Urena said in a statement. "That unprecedented obstruction these last eight years is their legacy, and the American people should reject it by electing Hillary Clinton to build on President Obama's success so we can all grow and succeed together."

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some of it was because he played the saxophone on Arsenio & got his dick sucked in the white house

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It was shoddy wording but he clarified afterwards.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/21/politics/bill-clinton-hillary-obama-legacy/


I doubt that he intentionally meant to take shots at Obama, mainly because they have been running on his record.

And GOP's obstructionism has been awful.


It's one of those things where if you want to dislike him you will read it one way, and if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt you will take his clarification at face value.




>Bill Clinton knocks ‘awful legacy’ of last 8 years
>Donovan Slack, USA TODAY 10:07 a.m. EDT March 22, 2016
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>http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/21/bill-clinton-knocks-obamas-awful-legacy/82094792/
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>Former President Bill Clinton, stumping on behalf of his wife
>in Washington state on Monday, urged people to vote for
>Hillary Clinton “if you believe we’ve finally come to the
>point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight
>years behind us.”
>
>It was not initially* clear if it was an unintended gaffe or
>something he meant to say, but it didn’t take long for
>Republicans to seize on it and post the clip to YouTube.
>Here’s the full quote:
>
>“I literally from the time I met her 45 years ago ‘til we
>talked yesterday, she is the best change-maker I have ever
>known. She always finds a way to make something good happen,
>to make people feel empowered, to buy people into the process,
>to make democracy work the way the framers intended for it to
>work.
>
>Now, if you don’t believe we can all grow together again, if
>you don’t believe we're ever going to grow again, if you
>believe it’s more important to re-litigate the past, there
>may be many reasons that you don’t want to support her.
>
>But if you believe we can all rise together, if you believe
>we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful
>legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years
>before that when we were practicing trickle-down economics
>and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the
>crash, then you should vote for her because she’s the only
>person who basically had good ideas will tell you how she’s
>going to pay for them, can be commander in chief and is a
>proven change maker with republicans and democrats and
>independents alike.”
>
>*Update: An aide to Bill Clinton says the legacy he was
>referring to was Republicans' obstructionism.
>
>"When Republicans controlled the White House, their
>trickle-down approach drove our economy to the brink of a
>collapse. After President Obama was elected, Republicans made
>it their number one goal to block him at every turn,"
>spokesman Angel Urena said in a statement. "That unprecedented
>obstruction these last eight years is their legacy, and the
>American people should reject it by electing Hillary Clinton
>to build on President Obama's success so we can all grow and
>succeed together."
>
>


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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is running on BHO's record.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

if she were down on BHO there's no way she'd agree to a cabinet position.

like i don't expect Sanders to accept a position in HRC's cabinet - but i guess that could happen too. *shrugs*

fuck you.

BO wasn't POTUS 8 yrs ago.

fuck you.

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2008 b/c Obama wasn't POTUS yet.

yes, he did throw shade on his wife's opponent - as any good husband who supports his wife's political campaign would do during a primary season. since that time WJC, HRC and BHO have forgiven/forgotten as evidenced by HRC working in BHO's administration in a cabinet position and BHO's (soft) endorsement of HRC's current presidential campaign (as sitting POTUS usually avoids outright endorsement of a presidential campaign for anyone other than his VP).

fuck you.

This ain't about checkers and the outright obvious. He's using the classic passive subliminal attack.
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who is running in part on BHO's accomplishments as POTUS which means Bill would not seek to throw BHO or his legacy under any bus as Hillary is not seeking to distance herself from BHO or his legacy.

fuck you.

And a campaigning Bill will say anything for a vote.


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is a stand against the GOP obstructionism that is the GOP's legacy over the last 8 years.

fuck you.

credits to President Obama.
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not necessarily - as i said earlier several ppl and groups have created legacies over the last 8 years, not just President Obama. when 'the world' refers to a 'legacy of the last 8 years' they're not necessarily referring to Obama's. which is why context matters. the context here is that Bill was campaigning for his wife who is a Democrat who served in Obama's administration and is currently running in part on her achievements as part of that admin and on the admin's achievements, generally. that admin and President Obama himself dealt w/a seemingly unprecedented amount of obstruction from the GOP-controlled Congress over the last 8 years. that obstructionism is the GOP's legacy over the last 8 years and that is the 'awful legacy' to which Bill referred.

fuck you.

that pops in your head.I guarantee the name will be Barack Obama.

Ask someone those there thing and then ask them to give you a name.

"the awful legacy of the last eight years"

"the seven years before that when we were practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash”

and those are the words Bill Clinton used.

fuck you.

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You are petty and not capable of acknowledging that you may be wrong about something.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I see Bill's statements as being backhanded and sly. You don't. Ok. But I give you the benefit of the doubt. You should know better.

Yo

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And sadly, they seem to be succeeding so far. Vex posted the video last night in the AIPAC thread, apparently untroubled by the elephant watermark in the corner.

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fuck you.

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to make your point.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

and we all know what he indirectly meant. He said it in such a way that he can easily deny the slight backhand and if needed, he made it easy to distance Hillary from Obama, while making her look like a better agent of change.


But go on an cook for Bill.

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b/c if he had he'd be referring to his wife's most important professional work since she was part of Obama's administration and is directly tied to his legacy. and she's running on her work in the Obama administration and Bill is supporting her run and is campaigning for her. he would not throw shade on her work when he's out there working on her behalf.

the very suggestion is ludicrous. it didn't happen.

fuck you.

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as he didn't name any particular person. he referred to a series of events.

several ppl and groups have created legacies w/in the last 8 yrs. the Chicago Blackhawks, for example. the org has won the Stanley Cup 3 times since 2009. the San Francisco Giants have won the World Series 3 times since 2010. Serena Williams has won 12 or so major tennis titles since 2008. and the list goes on.

point - the world is not JUST talking about Obama's legacy over the last 8 yrs. if any person refers generally to some 'legacy' over the last 8 yrs they're not necessarily referring to PBO. here President (Bill) Clinton referred to a legacy other than President Obama's.

fuck you.

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>point - the world is not JUST talking about Obama's legacy
>over the last 8 yrs. if any person refers generally to some
>'legacy' over the last 8 yrs they're not necessarily referring
>to PBO. here President (Bill) Clinton referred to a legacy
>other than President Obama's.

While Drumpf dominates election coverage the world is considering how the last eight years have bequeathed a legacy of angry, ignorant, extremism.

Nevertheless, a person who regularly throws rocks then tries to hide hands may indeed find it easy to attach meaning that's not in Clinton's words. Easy to believe others are guilty of the same motivations that drive their actions.

Just IMO though.

I wouldn't put it pass Bill Clinton to run against Obama's record if he thought that would be advantageous. But they have already made the decision that the best way to run would be on his record.

I'd also might buy this if this were a more conservative crowd and it was private enough where he thought he could get away with taking shots at BHO in a way to give his wife an advantage. But that's not the case because in that very same quote he is taking a shot at GWB.

There are a million ways to knock Bill Clinton. I don't think this a very strong one.

I am "caping" for what I think is the truth.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

She has to uphold the good, but play to the ignorant based that 's on the republican fence.

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My guess is it won't work in the general & they plan on playing it like the GOP did with W in 08

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he referred to the awful legacy of the last 8 years. he later clarified - the awful legacy to which he referred was the Congressional obstructionism thrown @ Obama. i agree - that shit was awful. and it happened during the last 8 yrs.

fuck you.

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in order to support the point you're trying to make.

instead you have to twist his actual words and imbue them w/a meaning that's not there.

fuck you.

"But if you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that when we were practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash, then you should vote for her because she’s the only person who basically had good ideas will tell you how she’s going to pay for them, can be commander in chief and is a proven change maker with republicans and democrats and independents alike.”
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notice he also referred to GOP's action BEFORE the last 8 yrs - the 7 yrs of 'trickle down economics'.

again - context is key.

fuck you.

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fuck you.

you read and write at a 7th grade level bro


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>*Update: An aide to Bill Clinton says the legacy he was
>referring to was Republicans' obstructionism.
>
>"When Republicans controlled the White House, their
>trickle-down approach drove our economy to the brink of a
>collapse. After President Obama was elected, Republicans made
>it their number one goal to block him at every turn,"
>spokesman Angel Urena said in a statement. "That unprecedented
>obstruction these last eight years is their legacy, and the
>American people should reject it by electing Hillary Clinton
>to build on President Obama's success so we can all grow and
>succeed together."

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this move would be inconsistent and detrimental to Hillary's 2016 campaign. she's closely aligned herself with Obama and his legacy and says she (claims) to continue building on the progress he's made.

you're suggesting that Bill is either unaware of or unwilling to cooperate with this strategy and is intentionally or unintentionally in conflict w/ the Clinton campaign.

or, he was referring to Republican antics over the past 8 years. one scenario seems far more likely than the other.

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Man listen. Hillary is trying to grab the last stragglers of the republican party that are on the fence. She'll let Bill toss all of the light shade that he wants as long as it's not here. But she will take the votes. Believe that.


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Show me a politician that will not turn on anyone during a campaigning? Name One?



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She's not gonna sacrifice the base she's assembling for a handful of Republican stragglers.

9 times out of 10, politics makes perfect sense. You rarely see a candidate o off the track.

And I feel like I need to add a disclaimer...I'm not in Hillary or Bernie's camps.

Did you not see Black folks support her over Bernie even though Bernie was more in line with the needs of the African-American base?

I guess not. But hey. I see it plainly and clearly.

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diminish w/o sliding over to Bernie or Trump, etc.

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especially since Obama's approval rating among Dems is very high right now.

>Man listen. Hillary is trying to grab the last stragglers of
>the republican party that are on the fence.

Bill's comments would be considered more than "light shade" if truly directed at Obama.

>She'll let Bill
>toss all of the light shade that he wants as long as it's not
>here. But she will take the votes. Believe that.

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And when Bernie Drops out not one Dem is going to cross over to the republicans.
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Black folks are BRAND LOYAL for Clinton not matter what. NO MATTER WHAT! There is History to back this up playa. So they will just overlook the matter. But the fence riders - the ones that are republican and hate Obama the man, but are afraid of Trump's crazy may cross over to help push Hillary. They are not going to support Bernie.

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>Black folks are BRAND LOYAL for Clinton not matter what. NO
>MATTER WHAT! There is History to back this up playa. So they
>will just overlook the matter. But the fence riders - the ones
>that are republican and hate Obama the man, but are afraid of
>Trump's crazy may cross over to help push Hillary. They are
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

pretty much. i have to assume Case is just replying to keep the dialogue going in this post

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the back of your mind so you're not caught off guard in the off-chance things do go that route. but presenting it as fact when the logic and facts overwhelmingly say otherwise is where you're losing me.

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He could have been talking about the BS of the Republicans and he could have been tossing some shade on Obama. I choose to look at the side that's not the most obvious to everyone.
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I assumed he was talking about the deliberate Republican obstructionism documented since Day One of Obama's Presidency.

He wouldn't intentionally tick off millions of Obama's supporters and Republicans know this.

I wouldn't doubt if they tried to make a commercial of that soundbite but they know it was interpreted incorrectly if anyone believes he was criticizing the Obama legacy when Hillary has pretty much been lock step with the President's accomplishments during her own campaign.

Nothing to see her folks.