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"Melissa Harris-Perry walks off her show citing lack of network support"
Sat Feb-27-16 10:07 AM by rdhull

  

          

http://theculture.forharriet.com/2016/02/melissa-harris-perry-walks-off-her-show.html#axzz41Nfl0kq8

Fans of Melissa Harris-Perry have lamented the frequent preemption of her eponymous weekend news show. It seemed that something was going on behind the scenes. Today the New York Times uncovered the depth of the discord between the Wake Forest professor and MSNBC.


The New York Times reports that MHP sent an email to her colleagues stating that she had been "effectively and utterly silenced." She says the network took over the slot to air election coverage. "Our show was taken — without comment or discussion or notice — in the midst of an election season," she wrote.

The full letter can be read on Medium.

Harris-Perry will not appear on the show this week because of her dissatisfaction with MSNBC's handling of the show and of her, personally.

I have stayed in the same hotels where MSNBC has been broadcasting in Iowa, in New Hampshire, and in South Carolina, yet I have been shut out from coverage. I have a PhD in political science and have taught American voting and elections at some of the nation’s top universities for nearly two decades, yet I have been deemed less worthy to weigh in than relative novices and certified liars.

“I am not a token, mammy, or little brown bobble head," she continued.

An NBC News spokesman said in a statement, “In this exciting and unpredictable presidential primary season, many of our daytime programs have been temporarily upended by breaking political coverage, including M.H.P. This reaction is really surprising, confusing and disappointing.”

Melissa Harris-Perry is important for the ways it intentionally amplified the voices of those who are poorly represented on the news shows in particular, and media generally.

Read more: http://theculture.forharriet.com/2016/02/melissa-harris-perry-walks-off-her-show.html#ixzz41Nh6HULy

  

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i was wondering what happened to Nerdland. Damn.
Feb 27th 2016
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yeah, it didn't really jump out at me until I read this
Feb 27th 2016
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      RE: yeah, it didn't really jump out at me until I read this
Feb 27th 2016
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           So now they're using this email that the NYT leaked as grounds to fire
Feb 28th 2016
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                Letter wasn't leaked to NYT. She asked her friend to post it on Medium.
Feb 28th 2016
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                     ahh, got it. I'm confusing different articles/blogs, my bad.
Feb 28th 2016
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Silenced a week before the SC primary?
Feb 27th 2016
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RE: Melissa Harris-Perry walks off her show citing lack of network suppo...
Feb 27th 2016
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TV is about ratings..and she wasnt getting them..
Feb 28th 2016
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RE: TV is about ratings..MSNBC wasnt getting them..
Feb 28th 2016
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      dont get me wrong..i fux with MHP heavily
Feb 28th 2016
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           She was only ever on weekends.
Feb 28th 2016
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           nah she had a shot during the week for a few weeks..
Feb 28th 2016
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                It was always
Feb 28th 2016
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           as a BernieBro, I'll just throw out the idea of the network censoring
Feb 28th 2016
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                the thing about bernie is...hes so left..the country aint ready for that
Feb 28th 2016
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                you see it...
Feb 28th 2016
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                     RE: you see it...
Feb 28th 2016
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                          except she covered the Iowa caucus
Feb 28th 2016
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                               RE: except she covered the Iowa caucus
Feb 28th 2016
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                                    nah, I think it's because she talks about BLM
Feb 28th 2016
29
thoughts by VBS
Feb 28th 2016
9
Just when she thought she'd arrived. Nope! Found out She's still Black!
Feb 28th 2016
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this is a terrible reply bruh
Feb 28th 2016
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      i almost didn't bother
Feb 28th 2016
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      And Yet...
Feb 28th 2016
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      Man, I swear. I have to slow stuff down so much
Feb 28th 2016
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      RE: Man, I swear. I have to slow stuff down so much
Feb 28th 2016
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      lol, that isnt how it read tho....
Feb 29th 2016
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           yup
Feb 29th 2016
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                Case is pretty horrible with the 1 liners
Feb 29th 2016
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                     Case is pretty dope with the One liners <--- Fixed it
Mar 01st 2016
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                          i owe you an apology... you were right all along
Mar 03rd 2016
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      It's not that out of place here
Feb 28th 2016
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LOL....
Feb 28th 2016
19
Lockup lol..even though that used to be my shit
Feb 28th 2016
20
LOL
Feb 28th 2016
23
LOL had no idea she was on weekends because i thought it was all Lockup
Feb 28th 2016
25
I love MHP but hasn't she been at like 3 universities in 5 years?
Feb 29th 2016
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yes. what's your point?
Feb 29th 2016
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Well, it demonstrates a pattern. She's used to getting fired.
Feb 29th 2016
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RE: Well, it demonstrates a pattern. She's used to getting fired.
Feb 29th 2016
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LOL. OKP gunna OKP. actually MHP being at different U's
Mar 03rd 2016
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      RE: LOL. OKP gunna OKP. actually MHP being at different U's
Mar 03rd 2016
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^Brand New
Feb 29th 2016
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      professors bounce around university's all the time
Feb 29th 2016
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      She's been tenure track, at least since U Chicago, this isn't the same
Feb 29th 2016
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           ionno the details
Feb 29th 2016
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      you mean, institutions aren't built for us
Mar 03rd 2016
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That's not abnormal for academics...
Feb 29th 2016
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      Pretty sure most people would leave Tulane for Wake
Feb 29th 2016
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      Dog, if you're a tenure track professor and you don't make tenure...
Feb 29th 2016
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           She was tenured at Princeton
Feb 29th 2016
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           Exactly! Blocked = Fired
Feb 29th 2016
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                its ok to be wrong bruh...
Feb 29th 2016
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                lol
Feb 29th 2016
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                Okay
Feb 29th 2016
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                you. are. not. smart
Mar 03rd 2016
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                     that's.ok.
Mar 03rd 2016
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           bruh, these universities shit all over Black professors tho
Feb 29th 2016
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           good read on why she left Princeton
Feb 29th 2016
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           Cornel West blocked her promotion to full professor at Princeton
Feb 29th 2016
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                man m so sick of Cornel West
Feb 29th 2016
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                ^^^ this. acting all like 'The Man' in this situation.
Feb 29th 2016
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                he think so highly of himself its disgusting...to feel beyond reproach
Feb 29th 2016
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                I stop fuzzing with CW after that. Even if they had beef to air her
Mar 01st 2016
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                Typical university politics
Feb 29th 2016
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                Wake Forest couldn't have broken the bank that badly.
Feb 29th 2016
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                     nigga did you really compare her salary to an ACC football coach?
Feb 29th 2016
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                     Ha
Feb 29th 2016
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                     She's a liberal arts professor. It's breaking the relative bank lol
Feb 29th 2016
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                     haha true. she's definitely in the academic 1% tho
Feb 29th 2016
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                     The IRS stuff seems to be more because she's a bamma with money/cc debt
Feb 29th 2016
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                     She's an alum, and a TV star teaching at a rich private school.
Mar 01st 2016
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                          What does any of that have to with Wake Forest breaking the bank?
Mar 02nd 2016
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might be coincidental but I really stopped liking the show about a year ...
Feb 29th 2016
42
prolly information overload...
Feb 29th 2016
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      yeah. I think you're right. Never thought about that
Feb 29th 2016
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      my wife started listening to talk radio
Feb 29th 2016
49
           Lol
Mar 01st 2016
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      i call that Rocitis
Feb 29th 2016
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Only thing I hate about shit like this is you aren't an Island; you have...
Mar 01st 2016
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Yup
Mar 01st 2016
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they weren't working anyway if she wasn't on the air...
Mar 01st 2016
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      but they were being paid, most likely. now they are not
Mar 01st 2016
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           Nah my ex did lighting for howard stern and trump on the apprentice
Mar 01st 2016
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I knew msnbc was going to phase out the coloreds post Pres. Obama
Mar 01st 2016
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You talking about Rachel Dolezal?
Mar 01st 2016
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      What else are any of us suppose to do?
Mar 01st 2016
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      Yeah, I heard that episode & for me MHP's explanation
Mar 01st 2016
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           ^^^ Her explanation on h&t left me side eyeing her even more.
Mar 01st 2016
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           nope. her explanation was just fine
Mar 03rd 2016
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She's going scorched earth. Refuses non disclosure agreement (link)
Mar 01st 2016
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Looks like she's trying to maintain and add to her brand.
Mar 02nd 2016
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juvenile? nah, I think its the perfect platform to expose the shenanigan...
Mar 02nd 2016
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      I like to error on the side of professionalism and maturity
Mar 02nd 2016
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           if she doesnt feel welcome at MSNBC then its a wrap for network TV
Mar 02nd 2016
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           i'm glad y'all are discounting and underestimating her.
Mar 03rd 2016
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           aljazeera is shutting down. OWN is riding wit tyler perry dramatics
Mar 03rd 2016
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           that response is steeped in sexism. but i'll let you cook.
Mar 03rd 2016
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           High quality sexism
Mar 03rd 2016
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Lol she wildin.I doubt another network picks her up after this
Mar 02nd 2016
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      She will prolly end up at NPR
Mar 02nd 2016
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           no she wont
Mar 02nd 2016
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           oh, you work there?
Mar 02nd 2016
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           Her brand/following ain't do much for her ratings
Mar 02nd 2016
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                MSNBC rating suck across the board tho...
Mar 02nd 2016
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                     you're clearly missing his point
Mar 02nd 2016
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                          she works for Wake Forest, her pockets are fine
Mar 02nd 2016
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                               context. its not abt reading from the teleprompter
Mar 02nd 2016
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                                    well, first and foremost she is a college professor
Mar 02nd 2016
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                                    It suggests she has shitty future-time-orientation, at the very least.
Mar 03rd 2016
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                                         or Maybe, just maybe some folks aren't scared shitless
Mar 03rd 2016
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                                              Agreed, she wasn't thinking much about the future impact.
Mar 03rd 2016
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                                              exactly... these people in here acting like MSNBC was the end game
Mar 03rd 2016
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                                                   Y'all are creating a false either-or.
Mar 03rd 2016
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                                                        probably because she is an on air personality with a strong opinion?
Mar 03rd 2016
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I support this theory so yall ready for more White lesbians
Mar 02nd 2016
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that was a harsh truth
Mar 02nd 2016
100
Damn, that is an astute analysis.
Mar 02nd 2016
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Yo, I've been saying this about MHP and others for several years now
Mar 03rd 2016
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Interesting
Mar 03rd 2016
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RE: I support this theory so yall ready for more White lesbians
Mar 03rd 2016
130
She wanted to be a part of that system what's the problem?
Mar 02nd 2016
103
I must be a brain washed corporate drone because I am sympathetic to
Mar 02nd 2016
105
yeah, you sound like a corporate drone...lol
Mar 02nd 2016
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I think that's the thing for me.
Mar 03rd 2016
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what kind of ratings does a weekend show on MSNBC get?
Mar 03rd 2016
132
yeah, that 'its not about race', but its about race got me too
Mar 03rd 2016
120
i wouldn't have burned the bridge here either.
Mar 02nd 2016
107
yeah..she smashed the whole watermelon in the workplace
Mar 02nd 2016
108
She's and academic, give me an article or a video
Mar 03rd 2016
109
She even used that Waiting to Exhale clip - like a mad ex-wife.
Mar 03rd 2016
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And it all suggests an air of entitlement. Like that show was hers
Mar 03rd 2016
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      did the show have her name on it?
Mar 03rd 2016
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      She didn't own the show: msnbc did.
Mar 03rd 2016
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           i get all that..
Mar 03rd 2016
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      the difference is, Black Entitlement actually stems from hard work
Mar 03rd 2016
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           The list of people who've had shows yanked from msnbc is long
Mar 03rd 2016
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           'Get out your cell phones folks!'
Mar 03rd 2016
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           and?
Mar 03rd 2016
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           Damali implied that something extra bad happened to MHP
Mar 03rd 2016
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           Rev al is allegedly possibly in some kinda comcast/nbc shakedown
Mar 03rd 2016
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           *dabs to this post*
Mar 03rd 2016
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*She's AN academic.
Mar 03rd 2016
144
MSNBC drops mhp, replaces her with bun B #trillOGland
Mar 03rd 2016
113
Bun B got a work voice like all the brothers on the job. LOL.
Mar 03rd 2016
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for the record, after she cried to not lose the show that time
Mar 03rd 2016
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      see, i almost...ALMOST compared it to Olbermann
Mar 03rd 2016
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           by the time youre on your 3rd network, it probably doesnt matter
Mar 03rd 2016
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Yeah, she Lost
Apr 16th 2016
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RE: Yeah, she Lost
Apr 16th 2016
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She took a stand did a whole lotta extra shit that...
Apr 16th 2016
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Nah
Apr 16th 2016
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      agree to disagree....and I was a huge supporter of her and her show..
Apr 17th 2016
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           Fair enough
Apr 17th 2016
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she did take a stance, no doubt, I can definitely support that
Apr 17th 2016
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      She wasn't silenced
Apr 17th 2016
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           RE: She wasn't silenced
Apr 17th 2016
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                No
Apr 17th 2016
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                RE: ???
Apr 17th 2016
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                     Which
Apr 17th 2016
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                          RE: Which
Apr 17th 2016
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                               So she
Apr 17th 2016
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                                    This is putting Joy in a bad position
Apr 17th 2016
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                                    Usually, an employer won't tell an employee they are about to be fired
Apr 17th 2016
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                                    RE: This is putting Joy in a bad position
Apr 17th 2016
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                                    MHP said she wasnt going to read cards and be a bobble head
Apr 17th 2016
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                                    More than likely this is all Joy and Chris Hayes have going for them
Apr 17th 2016
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                Ummm her day job is a professor
Apr 17th 2016
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                     When you go from selling out 20,000 seat arenas on World Tours...
Apr 17th 2016
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                          we just see it differently
Apr 17th 2016
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                               you cant convince people who put money over everything
Apr 17th 2016
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we already knew, look who was in here caping for her emotional ass
Apr 17th 2016
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She was beyond corny anyways..
Apr 16th 2016
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Lmao, she did have a tough ass lisp
Apr 17th 2016
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The fact is she didn't count here books and got set.
Apr 17th 2016
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you suck at this
Apr 18th 2016
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      Stop being so dramatic
Apr 18th 2016
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           thx... this is all i wanted
Apr 18th 2016
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                My attention? Really? Awwwww
Apr 18th 2016
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                     nah, a post without a misspelling.. lol
Apr 18th 2016
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CherNic
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1. "i was wondering what happened to Nerdland. Damn. "
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2. "yeah, it didn't really jump out at me until I read this "
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she hasn't been on the air for awhile

there was that story about her being approached in Iowa I believe, and feeling threatened

and I don't think she ever came back on the air TBH

kinda slick how they played it too

with the campaign coverage on saturdays and tamron's profile getting more exposure

I'm sure MHP will speak on it at some point

weird.

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4. "RE: yeah, it didn't really jump out at me until I read this "
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Yeah...I thought the same thing.

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6. "So now they're using this email that the NYT leaked as grounds to fire"
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her

and giving Joy Reid some profile, after having put her aside as well.

LOL, this year has really shown how ass the major US media outlets are

I got clowned in a post for saying something about Fox news

I really wonder if people can see that none of them are any different.

overall, MSNBC really needs to overhaul their on-air personalities

I can't sit through Chris Matthews incesseant chihuahua needling of his guests, before they can even answer his question

I imagine commercial breaks have him with an IV of coffee in one arm and doing lines of cocaine with the other hand...swear he's gonna have a heart attack on air

Rachel Maddows is about as interesting as live look ins on C-Span

I could go on...but if they want to raise raings, if we're suppose to believe that is what this is about

reshuffling the deck is not the way to get it done, IMO.

they need a new approach/on-air personalities to connect with our generation and youngers

similar to how NBC replaced Jay Leno with Jimmy Fallon.

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7. "Letter wasn't leaked to NYT. She asked her friend to post it on Medium."
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Friend being Jamil Smith.

  

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10. "ahh, got it. I'm confusing different articles/blogs, my bad."
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reading too much this week

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3. "Silenced a week before the SC primary?"
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>http://theculture.forharriet.com/2016/02/melissa-harris-perry-walks-off-her-show.html#axzz41Nfl0kq8
>
>Fans of Melissa Harris-Perry have lamented the frequent
>preemption of her eponymous weekend news show. It seemed that
>something was going on behind the scenes. Today the New York
>Times uncovered the depth of the discord between the Wake
>Forest professor and MSNBC.
>
>
>The New York Times reports that MHP sent an email to her
>colleagues stating that she had been "effectively and utterly
>silenced." She says the network took over the slot to air
>election coverage. "Our show was taken — without comment or
>discussion or notice — in the midst of an election season,"
>she wrote.
>
>The full letter can be read on Medium.
>
>Harris-Perry will not appear on the show this week because of
>her dissatisfaction with MSNBC's handling of the show and of
>her, personally.
>
>I have stayed in the same hotels where MSNBC has been
>broadcasting in Iowa, in New Hampshire, and in South Carolina,
>yet I have been shut out from coverage. I have a PhD in
>political science and have taught American voting and
>elections at some of the nation’s top universities for
>nearly two decades, yet I have been deemed less worthy to
>weigh in than relative novices and certified liars.
>
> “I am not a token, mammy, or little brown bobble head," she
>continued.

Tell 'em^^^

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5. "RE: Melissa Harris-Perry walks off her show citing lack of network suppo..."
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I always felt like she was under utilized at MSNBC anyway....Perry is capable of so much more....

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8. "TV is about ratings..and she wasnt getting them.."
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11. "RE: TV is about ratings..MSNBC wasnt getting them.."
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off top

reshuffling the same on air personalities, who also weren't getting ratings, doesn't address that issue

I would assume...

as an article pointed out, see my reply above, I'm not sure if it's in this link or something else I read

...that a presidental campaign cycle is a built in ratings boost for a news channel anyway.

i.e., I ain't buying it.

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12. "dont get me wrong..i fux with MHP heavily"
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but once they moved her show to weekends only she was doomed..i'm sure she has a nice fan base....she should do her own shit...

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14. "She was only ever on weekends."
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16. "nah she had a shot during the week for a few weeks.."
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i cant remember when exactly ..

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on the weekend. She guest hosted for Maddow sometimes but her show was always on the weekends.

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15. "as a BernieBro, I'll just throw out the idea of the network censoring"
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anything deemed as anti HRC

from something as benign as encouraging the pro Bern demographic with Wake the Vote

to something as explicit as praising Bern's response to BLM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/12/30/melissa_harris-perry_praises_bernie_sanders_for_genuine_response_to_black_lives_matter.html

^^^have you seen Killer Mike eviscerating HRC's handling of the recent BLM protest? not too far off in comparison of content

my point being, it's really interesting given the timing

ahead of the HRC SC firewall primary, she's removed from her regular time slot

and the raionale is ratings, even though, I'd assume a presidential election cycle would be a built in ratings bump for a news network.

...hmmm...

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17. "the thing about bernie is...hes so left..the country aint ready for that"
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its gotta be baby steps... just like nobody going for no far ass right tea party shit...of i agree with erything bernie says..you and me...but the whole country isnt ready for that yet...gotta defeat these old tired crackas one mo time first..and then start pushing more left..

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21. "you see it... "
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her removal was strictly about making sure OUR voice isn't heard this election cycle.

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26. "RE: you see it... "
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Or I mean, she was upset about having to do election based shows. Then was pre empted for primary coverage, and became even more upset about it. Then leaked her disagreement with the network, then got fired.

  

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27. "except she covered the Iowa caucus "
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28. "RE: except she covered the Iowa caucus "
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that doesn't mean she was happy about it. Her email covered being pissed about this stuff. Having to fight to do a Beyonce segment. All this has been reported. It's a work disagreement that went too far. Not some vast silencing of Bernie or whoever. Hell MSNBC did a full hour with bernie last week. MSNBC is a trash network, but it's very clear from what's been reported, that it's a dispute that went too far.

  

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29. "nah, I think it's because she talks about BLM "
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and how race would effect the election.

I don't think MSNBC wants to have that convo.

They want sound bites and bullshit round ups of the election.

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9. "thoughts by VBS"
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http://verysmartbrothas.com/why-you-need-to-care-about-whats-happening-to-melissa-harris-perry/

  

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13. "Just when she thought she'd arrived. Nope! Found out She's still Black!"
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22. "this is a terrible reply bruh"
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she never gave off that vibe of "arriving"

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24. "i almost didn't bother"
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31. "And Yet..."
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30. "Man, I swear. I have to slow stuff down so much "
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I never said she was arrogant, uppity etc. So, NOOO Captian Obvious "she never gave off that vibe of "arriving", I'm pointing out that even though she had a show on LiBERAL News Network at the end of the say they folks at the top treated her less because she was black.

Man.. THIS PLACE!


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32. "RE: Man, I swear. I have to slow stuff down so much "
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>I never said she was arrogant, uppity etc. So, NOOO Captian
>Obvious "she never gave off that vibe of "arriving", I'm
>pointing out that even though she had a show on LiBERAL News
>Network at the end of the say they folks at the top treated
>her less because she was black.
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>Man.. THIS PLACE!


You should have titled it 'even at a liberal news station, shes treated less then' or something like that

the way it stands is that it seems like you were portraying her as expecting and thinking she deserved etc etc

  

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34. "lol, that isnt how it read tho...."
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35. "yup"
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40. "Case is pretty horrible with the 1 liners"
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81. "Case is pretty dope with the One liners <--- Fixed it"
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134. "i owe you an apology... you were right all along"
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33. "It's not that out of place here"
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>she never gave off that vibe of "arriving"

  

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19. "LOL...."
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Got this from Twitter....


New msnbc schedule:

morning joe
mid morning joe
noon joe
afternoon joe
maddow
late night joe
lockup

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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20. "Lockup lol..even though that used to be my shit"
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>Got this from Twitter....
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>New msnbc schedule:
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>morning joe
>mid morning joe
>noon joe
>afternoon joe
>maddow
>late night joe
>lockup

  

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23. "LOL"
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25. "LOL had no idea she was on weekends because i thought it was all Lockup"
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aside meet the press, and a couple of those murder shows

and lol@morning joe. aka daily trump

  

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36. "I love MHP but hasn't she been at like 3 universities in 5 years?"
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Princeton, Tulane and Wake Forest?


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37. "yes. what's your point?"
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38. "Well, it demonstrates a pattern. She's used to getting fired."
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If I defied my boss, I'm getting fired, just like most of us.
She does things on her terms and it works out for her and she seemingly lands on her feet every time. There's nothing wrong with that.

People have been fired for less, she'll be cool.

  

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50. "RE: Well, it demonstrates a pattern. She's used to getting fired."
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this made me laugh out loud^^^

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123. "LOL. OKP gunna OKP. actually MHP being at different U's"
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prob has nothing at all to do with that you stated

she could be visiting prof, on a fellowship, a writer in residence, got offered a better opportunity, etc

and worst case scenario, you know POC professors, especially those with leftist leanings have a very hard time gaining tenure

but Kanye Shrug

  

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142. "RE: LOL. OKP gunna OKP. actually MHP being at different U's"
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Homes,

We are talking about an actual person, not a theoretical leftist non-white woman scholar.

Regarding the past 5 years while she was at Princeton, Tulane & Wake Forrest--she wasn't a visiting professor, on a fellowship, or a writer in residence, as you suggest. She was an actual Faulty member.

Liberal-Arts Professors gain full professorship and academic tenure by publishing, teaching, research, and playing University politics. She has total of two books (04' & 11'), and writes think pieces for a leftist non-academic magazine. She spent three days a week off campus 1000 miles away at MSNBC. She also has very public feuds with members of the committees who decide her Academic future. Of course she was moving on...to whatever worked best for her.

There is nothing wrong with that, and she's making solid progression in careers each time. Who can be mad at that?

You're being defensive when there's no attack.

  

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39. "^Brand New"
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Maybe she isn't built for institutions (or institutions aren't built for her).


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41. "professors bounce around university's all the time "
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especially THESE days where a lot of universities are going adjunct instead of full time.

I only know this because my wife works in higher ed.

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43. "She's been tenure track, at least since U Chicago, this isn't the same"
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45. "ionno the details"
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but I would think she isn't being fired from all these places.

I can't see her getting fired from all those spots and hired at Wake Forest but again, I don't know all the details.

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124. "you mean, institutions aren't built for us "
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#declarativesentence

not a rhetorical question

  

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44. "That's not abnormal for academics..."
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She left Princeton because she wasn't going to be promoted to the highest level. Very normal

I don't know why she left Tulane. Bad fit, really loved Wake Forest?
Point is, her moving around isn't strange at all

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46. "Pretty sure most people would leave Tulane for Wake"
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Wake has that looooong money.

I interviewed for a position in their business marketing dept. recently.

They never filled the position but bruh... the money they were talking about and all the CEO's sons who go there. One would be a fool to stay at Tulane if Wake came knocking or had a position open.

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51. "Dog, if you're a tenure track professor and you don't make tenure..."
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That means you're fired.
She went from Princeton to Tulane...Tulane.

  

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52. "She was tenured at Princeton"
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She left after not being promoted to full professor. She could have stayed if she wanted, but she left for Tulane for a higher position

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56. "Exactly! Blocked = Fired "
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She (like many apparently) made an enemy with Daddy C. West, seemingly the same way she did at NBC.

Then, the way MSNBC has been shedding shows, she should have known they'd not be afraid to let her go, especially running a renegade show.

Maybe if she writes a new important book she can charge those Michelle Alexander speaker fees.

  

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64. "its ok to be wrong bruh... "
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it happens to all of us from time to time

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65. "lol"
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I was going to come in with a rebuttal. But there's no point.

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70. "Okay"
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125. "you. are. not. smart"
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141. "that's.ok."
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53. "bruh, these universities shit all over Black professors tho"
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my wife has been in higher education for 10+ years and the petty shit these old fucks do is disgusting.

I don't see it as a bad thing to end up at Wake Forest.

I agree tho, she probably doesn't play that game and it seems to work out for her so kudos for sticking to her beliefs.

it's just a job.

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54. "good read on why she left Princeton"
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http://diverseeducation.com/article/14824/

New Orleans — On the day that Dr. Melissa Harris-Perry resigned from Princeton University, she took to her Twitter account to let the whole world know.

“Today I submitted my resignation to Princeton effective July 1,” she wrote. “I’m joining the faculty of Tulane this fall!”

It’s no surprise that Harris-Perry, one of the nation’s most visible Black intellectuals, would Tweet about her new job. For the past few years, she has used social networking outlets — Twitter, blogs, Facebook — and television punditry to bring her lectures and message to an audience that extends far beyond the -privileged circle of the Princeton campus.

“My base is the San Francisco airport,” the Black studies scholar and political scientist says with a laugh.

Since making her debut on the national scene in 2006, the scholar has become a towering and trusted figure among progressives and liberals who appreciate her regular commentary on MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Show and her columns in The Nation.

She is a rising star in the academy, having been mentored by established scholars like Drs. Cathy Cohen and Maya Angelou.

“Melissa is a talented scholar who is committed to her scholarship,” says Cohen, the David and Mary Winton Green Professor of Political Science and the deputy provost for graduate education at the University of Chicago. She notes that Harris-Perry’s decision to leave Princeton is evidence that good scholarship can take place anywhere.

But there are detractors, too.

For weeks she received scathing hate mail after a four-minute television segment on MSNBC in which she attempted to provide historical context for Michael Vick’s mistreatment of dogs, the severity of his punishment and her belief that Vick deserved a second chance.

Even Harris-Perry believes she fumbled that interview.

“People went crazy about those damn dogs,” she says. “My goal was not to defend Vick nor to condemn him, but to try to understand our very different national reactions to him” that surfaced along racial lines.

While some academicians have a difficult time distilling complex theories into quick sound bites, Harris-Perry is a pro, says Dr. Marc Lamont Hill, a professor of education at Columbia University.

“I think Melissa is one of the most significant public intellectuals of our generation,” says Hill, who is also a regular commentator on cable news shows and considers Perry a friend. “Melissa has demonstrated that being an intellectual is more than just being a pundit. She engages in cutting edge academic scholarship with a very strong media presence.”

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Scholars say that Harris-Perry’s biggest contribution to the field is explaining how Black people negotiate the dueling identities of being both minorities and Americans in a country where racism is very much a part of the dominant culture. Her research on Black women trains a spotlight on a group that is often marginalized because of racism and patriarchy.

While teaching at the University of Chicago in the early 2000s, Harris-Perry had a courtside seat to witness the political ascension of President Barack Obama. His dramatic rise to national prominence brought about her own, as she was often asked to appear on local Chicago television as an expert on his 2004 run for the U.S. Senate.

She has become an ardent defender of Obama, placing her squarely at odds with other Black intellectuals like Princeton’s Dr. Cornel West, who has questioned Obama’s policies toward the poor and the Black community. She dismisses charges that Obama’s support in the African-American community is beginning to wane.

“It’s profoundly overstated to say that Black people are disappointed with Obama,” she says.

Problems at Princeton

At Tulane, Harris-Perry has been tasked with creating a new center focused on the study of race, gender and politics in the American South. It’s a job that was specifically created with her in mind.

And the offer came at the right time.

After five years at Princeton, she says that she was starting to feel isolated from the very people she writes about.

“I’m an empiricist. I study Black communities, but I lived in Princeton,” says Harris-Perry, who relocated to New Orleans last November and has been commuting to the Princeton campus ever since. She started venturing to The Crescent City to conduct research in the years following Hurricane Katrina. She fell in love with the city and the people and eventually met her husband, James Perry, a lawyer and community activist who waged an unsuccessful bid for mayor in 2010.

When Harris-Perry graduated from Duke University with a Ph.D. in political science in 1999, she had six job offers. She spent seven years at the University of Chicago before Princeton came calling. In 2006, she was offered a tenured joint appointment in political science and African-American studies at the ripe age of 31. Her first book, Barbershops, Bibles, and BET: Everyday Talk and Black Political Thought, published in 2005, won the W.E.B. Du Bois Book Award from the National Conference of Black Political Scientists and the 2005 Best Book Award from the Race and Ethnicity Politics Section of the American Political Science Association.

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When she landed at Princeton, West lauded her decision to join the Ivy League institution, praising her as “one of the most talented intellectuals of her generation.”

“She brings sophisticated quantitative skills, a sense of history and a synthetic imagination. That’s rare among social scientists, and that’s why I’m so thoroughly excited and inspired that she’s here,” he said at the time.

But relations between Princeton and Harris-Perry hit an impasse last year after she was denied promotion from associate to full-professor. Harris-Perry says she received support for her promotion from the political science department, but noted that several faculty members in the African-American studies department were ultimately responsible for blocking her advancement. It was then that Harris-Perry came to the realization that Princeton, with all of its prestige and benefits, was not a good fit for her.

“Princeton is a good gig,” she says, sipping coffee in the restaurant of the W Hotel in downtown New Orleans, seemingly comfortable in her newly adopted city. “Black folks work hard for a gig like that. But I suppose that part of why I feel free is that I no longer have anything to prove.”

Dr. Eddie Glaude, Jr., the chair of the African-American studies department, declined to comment on Harris-Perry’s promotion, saying it was a personnel matter.

“I believe Professor Harris-Perry is brilliant, and I wish her the best,” said Glaude.

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It wasn’t just the denial of a promotion that readied Harris-Perry’s exit from Princeton, but a chance to do ground-breaking research in a city that is being rebuilt.

“I see New Orleans as ground zero for social justice,” she says. “Having grown up in the South, one of my pet peeves is the belief that all progressive politics is in D.C. and New York. Progressive politics is harder in the South. Gender politics is harder in the South. Interracial politics is harder in the South, but the South is highly underappreciated.”

At Tulane, Harris-Perry will bring her celebrity status and credibility to an institution that has experienced rapid growth after Hurricane Katrina. The university received nearly 44,000 applications for 1,630 freshman slots, and it is bursting at the seams as officials struggle to accommodate the renewed interest. “We can’t handle any more students,” says Dr. Michael Bernstein, provost and senior vice president for academic affairs at Tulane. “The quality of our students is going way up and we’re very proud of that.”

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Bernstein says Harris-Perry’s presence will likely draw additional interest to Tulane.

“Melissa is so visible in her own right, she will bring a lot of visibility to the university,” he says. “She is well-respected and highly regarded, and we see her as a welcome addition to our community.”

Harris-Perry’s center will be housed in the Newcomb College Institute, an interdisciplinary academic clearinghouse designed to enrich the educational experience of women at Tulane. Initially, she will be responsible for raising money and laying a foundation for the center’s work.

“I really want to build an institution that is bigger than me,” says Harris-Perry, who says the center is still in the planning stages. “My vision is not so much a focus on elite scholarship but to learn about the lives, struggles and efforts of the most ordinary women — Southern women of color. I want to hear from that 55-year-old Black woman who is a school leader fighting for charter schools. She has something to say but no platform to say it.”

As an outsider, Harris-Perry knows that she has much to learn about New Orleans and its people.

“I’m not a New Orleanian,” she says. “I’m not founding this center with the hope of giving people the answer. The best empirical research takes place when the researcher shuts up.”

Harris-Perry, who gives dozens of speeches each year, isn’t showing any signs of slowing down. She has just finished work on her second book: Sister Citizen: A Text for Colored Girls Who’ve Considered Politics When Being Strong Wasn’t Enough, which is scheduled to be published later this year by Yale University Press. Several years ago, she enrolled as a Master of Divinity student at Union Theological Seminary in New York City, but is unsure if she will finish the program because of the relocation. “If anything I am a better student than anything else,” she says, adding that she enrolled at Union because she wanted to better understand the role of the Black church in political movements.

There is one thing, however, that she will likely miss about teaching at an Ivy League school. “The thing I probably will miss the most is sitting next to some old White guy on the plane who asks, ‘What do you do?’ and seeing his reaction when I say, ‘I’m a Princeton University professor.”

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55. "Cornel West blocked her promotion to full professor at Princeton"
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She had a dual appointment in Af Am Studies and Political Science. Poli Sci approved her promotion from associate to full professor ; Af Am rejected her. The beef between MHP and West had already turned toxic at that point and basically split the department in half.


Wake Forest broke the bank to poach her away from Tulane.

  

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58. "man m so sick of Cornel West "
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>
>She had a dual appointment in Af Am Studies and Political
>Science. Poli Sci approved her promotion from associate to
>full professor ; Af Am rejected her. The beef between MHP and
>West had already turned toxic at that point and basically
>split the department in half.
>
>
>Wake Forest broke the bank to poach her away from Tulane.

  

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62. "^^^ this. acting all like 'The Man' in this situation. "
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peace & blessings,

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69. "he think so highly of himself its disgusting...to feel beyond reproach"
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That sob is dangerous


>peace & blessings,
>
>x.
>
>www.twitter.com/poetx
>
>=========================================
>I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
>focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
>
>not having much to show for it. (c) mad

  

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73. "I stop fuzzing with CW after that. Even if they had beef to air her"
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out like that definitely wasn't cool.

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59. "Typical university politics"
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the old heads always get in the way of progress.

and West is a proud hater...lol

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60. "Wake Forest couldn't have broken the bank that badly."
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Considering all of those stories about her being in the arrears with the IRS.

That sounds like I'm hating, I'm not it's a testament about $ and higher ed and education v. sport...a brilliant mind like hers is struggling to pay taxes, while Dave Clawson earns over $2M yearly to coach their mediocre football team.

  

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61. "nigga did you really compare her salary to an ACC football coach?"
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yeah, you hatin...lol.

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63. "Ha"
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Curtis Johnson at Tulane made well over 1M yearly too.

  

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66. "She's a liberal arts professor. It's breaking the relative bank lol"
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I doubt she got that much more money. Probably just more flexibility and freedom

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67. "haha true. she's definitely in the academic 1% tho"
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Gotta imagine that with an endowed chair and her own program at a pretty ritzy private institution, she's clearing north of 200k in just her university salary.

  

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68. "The IRS stuff seems to be more because she's a bamma with money/cc debt"
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She talked about it a bit on Heben and Tracy's podcast. Got a taste of the Limousine liberal lifestyle and was trying to keep up with the joneses.

  

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71. "She's an alum, and a TV star teaching at a rich private school. "
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Cmon.

  

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95. "What does any of that have to with Wake Forest breaking the bank?"
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C'mon

  

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42. "might be coincidental but I really stopped liking the show about a year ..."
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I used to watch it religiously. Gave me a good glimpse of American current affairs and it was refreshing seeing her and her guests.
can't tell when last I watched it. Something shifted for me.

  

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47. "prolly information overload..."
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I used to watch these shows but I tapped out years ago. Just got tired of to feeling helpless and hearing how bad Shit is all the time.

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48. "yeah. I think you're right. Never thought about that"
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49. "my wife started listening to talk radio"
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and she came in on some doomsday Shit one afternoon and I knew it was time to turn that shit off.

she is the last person to be on some "oh noes, all is lost"

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72. "Lol"
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57. "i call that Rocitis"
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74. "Only thing I hate about shit like this is you aren't an Island; you have..."
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Even if justified, power moves like this involves other people's livelyhoods.

  

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76. "Yup"
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fuck you.

  

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78. "they weren't working anyway if she wasn't on the air..."
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whoever was working specifically for her. if someone was drawing a check from msnbc to do lighting or whatever, they'll just work whatever projects are in her time slot.

  

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80. "but they were being paid, most likely. now they are not"
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83. "Nah my ex did lighting for howard stern and trump on the apprentice "
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No work, no pay. It's hourly not salary for just about everyone on set.

Unless they're working for msnbc salaried in which case they'll keep on working on whatever goes in her time slot.

A few writers, or the producer on her show might be the exception but if they haven't been doing the show.... They had notice.

  

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75. "I knew msnbc was going to phase out the coloreds post Pres. Obama"
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I was off MHP show when she caped for that lyin ass white woman BUT the way msnbc handled this is piss poor. Also, goodt Brian Williams shade @ "certified liars" lol.

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77. "You talking about Rachel Dolezal?"
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I listened to Trace's podcast, which someone up top mentioned earlier, and Melissa talked about that and people's negative reaction to how she approached that situation. She basically said she was, unwittingly, superimposing her own stuff with coming from a mixed background and having siblings that are 100% white and some that are 100% Black, and all her feelings around that.

  

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79. "What else are any of us suppose to do?"
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She basically
>said she was, unwittingly, superimposing her own stuff with
>coming from a mixed background and having siblings that are
>100% white and some that are 100% Black, and all her feelings
>around that.


We should bring our background into evaluating these issues. ain't no other way to do.


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82. "Yeah, I heard that episode & for me MHP's explanation"
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didnt make sense & was borderline coddling yt nonsense lol b/c white mothers/siblings with Black/biracial kids have racial privileges over Black moms w/ Black/biracial kids. Like, that 1 time your white sister fought the racist yt child for calling you a nigger don't change systems & structures & how individuals experience and benefit from these systems and structures. That lying ass white woman can have ALL the Black biracial children and the fact remains that she is a lying ass white woman who is the mother of Black biracial children.

I think it's necessary for yt parents to live in the truth that they can't empathize w/ their children of color when it comes to experiencing racism b/c it's not an experience they go through. They can be sympathetic b/c duh, when your kid hurts...you hurt but yeah, yt people don't experience racism so there feelings aren't all that important lol.

It highkey REALLY shocked me that light-skinned/biracial Black people weren't the most upset at that lying ass white woman. She was infiltrating they shit & it was quite the tepid reaction to her shenanigans from that contingent or I missed it?? lol w/e

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84. "^^^ Her explanation on h&t left me side eyeing her even more. "
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126. "nope. her explanation was just fine"
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you sound like many folk, Black and White, who try to impose their social experience as a singular racialized body being interpolated by WSCP, on those of us who are not, move forward chankleta

that doesn't "forgive" her giving Bird Brain a platform and coddling her while in the moment.

  

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85. "She's going scorched earth. Refuses non disclosure agreement (link)"
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Talkin bout it. Going to be leaking emails

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11143790/melissa-harris-perry-tweets-msnbc

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86. "Looks like she's trying to maintain and add to her brand. "
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Using twitter in this manner is juvenile.
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89. "juvenile? nah, I think its the perfect platform to expose the shenanigan..."
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I wonder why they didn't have that non disclosure in the contract she signed when she started her gig.

seems odd to ask for it AFTER things went sour.

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90. "I like to error on the side of professionalism and maturity "
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She's salty, but other Networks will take notice that she's an emotional brat if she can't get her way - justified or not. Something like this may prevent her from getting another gig on network or cable news. She'll be on TVOne

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92. "if she doesnt feel welcome at MSNBC then its a wrap for network TV"
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I think she realizes it's over and instead of trying CNN or...

hell, there isn't anywhere else to go since all these stations are owned by 2 or 3 companies.

TVONE, OWN, NPR or AlJezeera?

It's Huffpo pieces and academia from here on out.

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117. "i'm glad y'all are discounting and underestimating her."
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i can't wait for her to prove you wrong.

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121. "aljazeera is shutting down. OWN is riding wit tyler perry dramatics"
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oprah said funkdat 24/7 happy wellness eatpraylove programming, I need some ratings and ad dollars


tavis got banished to PBS


npr, despite talking that liberal talk got called out on lack of diversity behind the scenes and dropped one of their few 'black' shows


not owning any media outlets is a issue.

even these online sites like theRoot aren't black owned.



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116. "that response is steeped in sexism. but i'll let you cook."
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128. "High quality sexism"
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87. "Lol she wildin.I doubt another network picks her up after this"
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This ain't a good look for a professional.

  

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88. "She will prolly end up at NPR "
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but I'm not mad at her one bit. Release all that good info.

IMO she is staying true to her brand and I love it.

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91. "no she wont"
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93. "oh, you work there? "
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94. "Her brand/following ain't do much for her ratings "
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Which I think this is what it boils down to. Shit is a business. I think she chose to forget/ignore that factor.




  

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96. "MSNBC rating suck across the board tho..."
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I dont think her show was about ratings as much as it was about trying to add some diversity during Obama's term.

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97. "you're clearly missing his point"
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you said "she is staying true to her BRAND"

dude is saying her BRAND aint gon help her pay the bills

her BRAND cant come close to writing those MSNBC checks she was cashing

as he said, "its business"

few of us think that way out the gate

and that right there is why we're always one step behind our competition

  

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99. "she works for Wake Forest, her pockets are fine"
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Maybe TV isn't what she thought it would be so she is moving in a new direction?

DJ said her brand/following wasn't bringing in ratings and my point was MSNBC ratings are trash so maybe it wasn't really about ratings to begin with.

I think they jumped on the new young voice of color and now that it's election season and Obama is on his way out they are moving on from race based political discussion.

not sure how this is proof of how we stay a step behind. I guess she could keep her head down and read the teleprompter but some people have more options and can say FUCK YOU and find another avenue to continue doing something they believe in.

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101. "context. its not abt reading from the teleprompter"
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setting everything ablaze via twitter as you walk out the door is not a good look professionally, in any industry, especially one as nationally visible as hers.

which is what was said above
which is what this conversation (string) was about

no ones saying be step and fetch it
no ones saying dont say anything at all
however the exit she chose was a childish one

if she knew better
she would do better
its obvious she doesn't

  

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104. "well, first and foremost she is a college professor"
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and a lot of college professor's act a fool, especially when they are tenure.

I think she realized she wasn't built for TV and went scorched earth. If she wants another TV gig it's a bad look. However, if she is content with Academia she is probably being viewed as a hero right now.

I wonder what Wake thinks of this fall out

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127. "It suggests she has shitty future-time-orientation, at the very least."
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The only time this kind of bridge burning makes sense is if someone seriously wronged you: theft, assault, vicious public lies, that kind of thing. Her beef, which is a legitimate beef, is that she was being sidelined with no real explanation from the msnbc brass. That doesn't rise to the level of handling this the way she did.

  

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129. "or Maybe, just maybe some folks aren't scared shitless"
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about losing their "careers" 24-7 like some of y'all

just a thought

  

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131. "Agreed, she wasn't thinking much about the future impact."
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We don't disagree there.

Edit: What about this situation justified her storming off in this dramatic fashion? She's not entitled to that job and its their prerogative to preempt her in the middle of a wacky election season, if they wish. I agree that not giving her much explanation is bad on their part, but I presume she was still getting salary for that time.

She doesn't have the right to be on msnbc's air.

  

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135. "exactly... these people in here acting like MSNBC was the end game"
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IMO this was some extra shit and not her life's work.

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138. "Y'all are creating a false either-or."
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Either she stays and remains unhappy OR she goes out and pulls the dining room table linens with her on the way out the door.

How about just quietly resign? You know, like what the rest of us do when we want to quit a job, but we haven't really been wronged?

  

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140. "probably because she is an on air personality with a strong opinion?"
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you guys act like she is filing papers at a gig.

Her job is talking on air and filing people up...

Bill O'Reilly went ape shit when someone talked in the background on his set.

it's what they do... they are sensational, dramatic people.

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98. "I support this theory so yall ready for more White lesbians"
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https://imixwhatilike.org/2016/02/29/melissa-harris-perry-and-the-fall-of-the-negro-whisperers/

<----

Soundcloud.com/aquil84

(HIP HOP)
http://aquil.bandcamp.com

  

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100. "that was a harsh truth"
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102. "Damn, that is an astute analysis. "
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**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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110. "Yo, I've been saying this about MHP and others for several years now"
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people looked at me like I had worms coming out of my head. It's on point 100%.

___________________________________________________________


DJTB YOMM

  

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112. "Interesting "
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130. "RE: I support this theory so yall ready for more White lesbians"
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Does everyone forget it WAS The WHITE LESBIAN who even brought her on the network..

Rachel birthed MHP and C Hayes.. She brought them in to cover for her and their success on Maddow got them their own shows..

But contrast the difference between Hayes & MHP from that point....

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103. "She wanted to be a part of that system what's the problem?"
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______________________________________

Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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105. "I must be a brain washed corporate drone because I am sympathetic to "
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MSNBC.

MSNBC rating are down so they are making decisions to get better ratings like cutting underperforming shows and focusing on the election.

She disagreed with that direction, which is cool. It bees like that (but you really going to war over a beyonce video?!?!)

But it takes it to a whole nother level to air out that grievance in public with the letter she wrote. To me that's unprofessional but I won't ding her for that because it's her choice to decide whether she cares if she is perceived as professional (though it probably makes it just that much more harder for another PoC to get a show but whatever).

But to bring in the whole thing about "being a mame" and to cast it in terms of a racial struggle frames it as an affront on all

black people (and yet she won't come out and say it's motivated by her race). It feels like she is pulling us into something that is more akin to a contract dispute than a racial injustice.

I was hoping she would land at BET or a black network or maybe even NPR but who is really going to touch her after such a public airing out?

I guess I am just saying it could have paid to chillout and realize that shows get canceled all the time. Find a situation that works for you. No need to burn bridges.

But again, that's the corporate drone in me.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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106. "yeah, you sound like a corporate drone...lol "
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I could see if this was a regular gig but she was hired to talk about race.

Not sure why you shrug at the Beyonce topic. Police officers and plenty of white people reacted to the video and San performance.

IMO this is no different than Fox News trying to tell Bill O'Reilly not to talk about David Duke or a performance by a white artist that touched a nerve with America.

Now if all MHP had was this show then I could see your point but people who have shit to fall back on or don't play that game have a tendency to say "fuck you" when they feel like their job is shitting on them.

Gotta remember she has Wake Forest, summers off, spring break, fall break,and every holiday known to a liberal college.

Its real easy to walk away from a gig when you have other sources of income.

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114. "I think that's the thing for me. "
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>IMO this is no different than Fox News trying to tell Bill
>O'Reilly not to talk about David Duke or a performance by a
>white artist that touched a nerve with America.

I would imagine that happens all the time. I don't think any of these shows have complete editorial control and autonomy. And if they do it's because they have the ratings to support it.

When your ratings are down it's hard for me to imagine a network NOT telling you where to focus.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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132. "what kind of ratings does a weekend show on MSNBC get? "
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especially one with a Black host who focuses primarily on race based topics?

no snark, I think MSNBC has shirty ratings when compared to other news networks.

but I also think Case One was right. She thought she arrived due to being popular but she was nothing more than a young Black face for the Obama angle.

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120. "yeah, that 'its not about race', but its about race got me too"
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107. "i wouldn't have burned the bridge here either."
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I might leave the show but I'd not have aired out the folks @ MSNBC without some proof. At least she acknowledged her ego is playing a role in her decision making here.

fuck you.

  

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108. "yeah..she smashed the whole watermelon in the workplace"
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>MSNBC.
>
>MSNBC rating are down so they are making decisions to get
>better ratings like cutting underperforming shows and focusing
>on the election.
>
>She disagreed with that direction, which is cool. It bees like
>that (but you really going to war over a beyonce video?!?!)
>
>But it takes it to a whole nother level to air out that
>grievance in public with the letter she wrote. To me that's
>unprofessional but I won't ding her for that because it's her
>choice to decide whether she cares if she is perceived as
>professional (though it probably makes it just that much more
>harder for another PoC to get a show but whatever).
>
>But to bring in the whole thing about "being a mame" and to
>cast it in terms of a racial struggle frames it as an affront
>on all
>
>black people (and yet she won't come out and say it's
>motivated by her race). It feels like she is pulling us into
>something that is more akin to a contract dispute than a
>racial injustice.
>
>I was hoping she would land at BET or a black network or maybe
>even NPR but who is really going to touch her after such a
>public airing out?
>
>I guess I am just saying it could have paid to chillout and
>realize that shows get canceled all the time. Find a
>situation that works for you. No need to burn bridges.
>
>But again, that's the corporate drone in me.
>
>
>**********
>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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109. " She's and academic, give me an article or a video "
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not a twitter rant in email form. I'm cool with her burning that place down, I have no issue with her being angry or showing emotion but she's communicating with MSNBC like she's an ex, which making her valid ass points look petty because of the medium and tone.
Bad look all around.
She got swept out just like a lot of negros are about to be as Obama's term comes to an end. She's not going to be the last one in tears...

  

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111. "She even used that Waiting to Exhale clip - like a mad ex-wife."
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Lol

fuck you.

  

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133. "And it all suggests an air of entitlement. Like that show was hers"
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to keep forever, like her and General Electric took vows before G_d.

Which is weird because she's stated a number of times in different interviews over the last 4 years that she understands that she'll be on the air as long as the're willing to let her be on the air. It's a weird turn on her part.

  

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136. "did the show have her name on it? "
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I think it was her show and the last thing she wanted was to continue doing it while talking about shit she didn't want to talk about or being censored.

I think she knew it wouldn't last forever but didn't expect them to box her out like they did.

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137. "She didn't own the show: msnbc did."
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And I'm not saying she didn't have grounds to be unhappy. Pissed, even. I would be mad in her position, too. But just because you're mad, that doesn't mean it's always appropriate to lash out. That's what I meant about her exhibiting poor future-time-orientation further up.

Again, going out guns blazing only is justifiable if your bosses did something so bad that you might have grounds for legal action, or something like that. That is definitely not the case here.

  

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139. "i get all that.. "
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but at the same time plenty of on air personalities have acted a fool when beefi ng with a TV station.

IMO it's only a bad move if she wants to be on TV for the rest of her life.

however, I think she is like "fuck TV, fuck them yts, I'm going back to academia"

and if so, it doesn't damage her future earnings.

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143. "the difference is, Black Entitlement actually stems from hard work"
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so i'm good w/that. she has right to feel entitled.
folks who are just born white and reap those privileges, do not.

every Black man & woman who has worked twice as hard to get half as much had damn well better feel entitled to what the fuck ever they want.

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145. "The list of people who've had shows yanked from msnbc is long"
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and full of people of all stripes.

Rev. Al got banished to a half hour early on Sundays a few months ago and took it like a champ.

They took Phil Donohue's show off in the mid 2000's and people are still angry about that. Ashley Banfield got cancelled and was MIA for about 12 years until she got back on CNN, recently.

Almost forgot about Cenk Ugyar, too. And Roman Farrow is gone too, I believe.

And I have a suspicion Chris Hayes is about to get the ax. He was Much better as the opener to Melissa's closer one weekend mornings, anyway.

And you're not entitled to a show you don't own on a network you don't own. You can be as worthy as the day is long, but that's not entitlement.

  

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146. "'Get out your cell phones folks!'"
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>and full of people of all stripes.
>
>Rev. Al got banished to a half hour early on Sundays a few
>months ago and took it like a champ.
>
>They took Phil Donohue's show off in the mid 2000's and people
>are still angry about that. Ashley Banfield got cancelled and
>was MIA for about 12 years until she got back on CNN,
>recently.
>
>Almost forgot about Cenk Ugyar, too. And Roman Farrow is gone
>too, I believe.
>
>And I have a suspicion Chris Hayes is about to get the ax. He
>was Much better as the opener to Melissa's closer one weekend
>mornings, anyway.
>
>And you're not entitled to a show you don't own on a network
>you don't own. You can be as worthy as the day is long, but
>that's not entitlement.

  

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so fucking what that some people had a show yanked and didn't go ham like she did.

Yall act like she burned the building down. She sent out a few tweets.

Gotdammit!!!

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148. "Damali implied that something extra bad happened to MHP"
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and therefore she was in the right to respond the way she has. I'm saying that's not really true - this kind of thing happens all the time.

And I'm saying all this as a big fan of MHP, who's been consistently annoyed that she's been pre-empted way too much the last 3 or 4 months.

But I also recognize that it's "their" network and "their" air - they can do this if they want and have a legit reason, which they do.

  

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150. "Rev al is allegedly possibly in some kinda comcast/nbc shakedown"
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Keep me on payroll or else

He's much worser than anybody they fired so far



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149. "*dabs to this post*"
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144. "*She's AN academic."
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113. "MSNBC drops mhp, replaces her with bun B #trillOGland"
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http://sharetv.com/watch/1048938



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115. "Bun B got a work voice like all the brothers on the job. LOL. "
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Good stuff though.


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118. "for the record, after she cried to not lose the show that time"
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sniffling and sobbing and apologizing,
I was done. the show fell off after that




I don't really think it was a 'burning bridges' move with the tweets tho. she is in media. olbermann has burned every bridge twice and he still finds a way back.


it is interesting how her, dyson, alotta other bighead negroes getting pushed aside as Obama is stepping down



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119. "see, i almost...ALMOST compared it to Olbermann"
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but he's white

and a man

so i left it alone

but even Olbermann didnt burn bridges in public BEFORE he got his new gig

he wasnt afraid to throw a jab or two after he got his new spot tho

most of his bridge burning was behind the scenes

just saying

  

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122. "by the time youre on your 3rd network, it probably doesnt matter"
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whether its behind the scenes or not


but yea the game aint fair


considering the show requires very little production, she coulda(&still could) been building it on BET for the past 4 yrs



pretty sure its a ton of stations that are airing basically nothing at 10am-noon on saturdays



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151. "Yeah, she Lost"
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I'm assuming from this morning

Joy Reid took her spot, and there's a whole lotta black people on her show

L

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152. "RE: Yeah, she Lost"
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Taking a stand is a L ?

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154. "She took a stand did a whole lotta extra shit that..."
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...took away from the message she wanted to get across.
In my books that's an L.

  

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she called them out and walked away from the buyout. That's a W

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156. "agree to disagree....and I was a huge supporter of her and her show.."
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...*shrug*

  

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157. "she did take a stance, no doubt, I can definitely support that"
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to be clear, I'm all for having a voice and using it as an agent of change

but her stance was that she was being silenced

she wouldn't kowtow

etc...

and since this 'stance' I haven't heard one peep from her

i.e. she has been completely silenced

base, it's something I've learned as an adult

and I would expect an educated adult like MHP to know as much

have a plan

don't react out of emotion in a business environment

what she did felt very reactionary (whether or not it was morally right or wrong is beside the point IMO)

and she obviously had no plan for continuing to be a voice that is heard

i.e. she should have had a contingency plan before walking off

what struck me about seeing Joy in her Sat time slot, is that MSNBC probably would have brought MHP back to regular programming as well

but she jumped out the window

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160. "She wasn't silenced"
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>to be clear, I'm all for having a voice and using it as an
>agent of change
>
>but her stance was that she was being silenced
>
>she wouldn't kowtow
>
>etc...
>
>and since this 'stance' I haven't heard one peep from her
>
>i.e. she has been completely silenced

Somebody posted an interview she did right after all of this went down.

>
>base, it's something I've learned as an adult
>
>and I would expect an educated adult like MHP to know as much
>
>have a plan

What would she gain, staying on a show they canceled without telling her ? I think her plan was to force the Exec's hand since thy were doing the passive aggressive thing.

>don't react out of emotion in a business environment
>
>what she did felt very reactionary (whether or not it was
>morally right or wrong is beside the point IMO)

According to the interview she gave, they would not come straight out and say your show is canceled and we no longer need your services, they were playing games.

>and she obviously had no plan for continuing to be a voice
>that is heard
>
>i.e. she should have had a contingency plan before walking
>off

She still has twitter and she can do a podcast, it's not that bad. Sitting in front of a camera and reading news would be awful given what she was doing with her show.

>what struck me about seeing Joy in her Sat time slot, is that
>MSNBC probably would have brought MHP back to regular
>programming as well
>
>but she jumped out the window

That show was not coming back. MSNBC is trying to be FOX News lite just like CNN.

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161. "RE: She wasn't silenced"
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and your counter is a twitter account and a podcast

I'm saying, compared to the national platform she had at MSNBC

her contingency plan of twitter and podcasts

= L

and FTR, I don't use twitter and her podcasts haven't made it onto my radar

= silenced.

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163. "No"
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I'm saying she has options.

If you don't use twitter or you did not hear the podcast, that means she is silenced for you, not everyone who does.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/anotherround/melissa-harris-perry-on-her-split-with-msnbc-i-am-not-a-civi#.mgY8wwQ6M

http://www.npr.org/2016/03/09/469837015/msnbc-fires-host-melissa-harris-perry-over-controversial-memo

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164. "RE: ???"
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>I'm saying she has options.
>
>If you don't use twitter or you did not hear the podcast, that
>means she is silenced for you, not everyone who does.
>
>http://www.buzzfeed.com/anotherround/melissa-harris-perry-on-her-split-with-msnbc-i-am-not-a-civi#.mgY8wwQ6M
>
>http://www.npr.org/2016/03/09/469837015/msnbc-fires-host-melissa-harris-perry-over-controversial-memo


When you go from the viewership numbers of MSNBC to whatever numbers your "out of the trunk" podcast can/will do then you've essentially been silenced.

MSNBC has over 300,000 total daily viewers
I doubt her podcast gets 3,000 per day (which is basically her choir)


I think she could have and should have played the game a little better to keep her voice out in the limelight.

  

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166. "Which"
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>
>
>When you go from the viewership numbers of MSNBC to whatever
>numbers your "out of the trunk" podcast can/will do then
>you've essentially been silenced.

viewership numbers of MSNBC is nothing if she is just reading the news.

>MSNBC has over 300,000 total daily viewers
>I doubt her podcast gets 3,000 per day (which is basically her
>choir)

A choir that is getting more from her than a large MSNBC audience would if she was just sitting there reading the news.

>
>I think she could have and should have played the game a
>little better to keep her voice out in the limelight.
>

Played better how. Playing the game without signing the non-disclosure would give her the same result, fired. Playing the game better by signing the non-disclosure or staying on the team would end with her unable to talk about how MSNBC did her dirty or reading the news.

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168. "RE: Which"
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> viewership numbers of MSNBC is nothing if she is just reading
>the news.

Sit there and wait until AFTER this presidential election stuff ($$$$) is over and then assess the situation. It seems like she wanted to be in a Meagan Kelly position being a moderator at the debates or something.


>A choir that is getting more from her than a large MSNBC
>audience would if she was just sitting there reading the
>news.

And now, Joy is sitting there "reading the news".
But, I've seen Joy on sooo many things giving her opinion and not just "reading the news" that it makes me feel like MHP was short sighted and didn't wait things out.
MHP could have been in Joy's shoes.



>Played better how. Playing the game without signing the
>non-disclosure would give her the same result, fired. Playing
>the game better by signing the non-disclosure or staying on
>the team would end with her unable to talk about how MSNBC did
>her dirty or reading the news.

You are speaking of the fallout.
I'm talking about before it even reached that point.
She needed to laylow and let the presidential stuff blow over and then assess the situation.
MSNBC didn't "do her dirty".
They are a news channel that makes money by selling ad space.
Her show did not garner the premium for ad rates so she kept getting pushed into a corner.
That's why Locked Up Abroad was shown in heavy rotation instead of her.
She needed to amass more viewers so she could command a premium for her ad rates.
That didn't happen so MSNBC made a conscientious business decision.

Maybe they had focus groups and MSNBC viewers wanted less of what MHP was discussing and more "regular news"?

I don't know,but she should have given things more time to play out.

Just think, she could be doing everything she's doing now AND have 300,000 MSNBC viewers as a backup.
instead, she only has what she does now.

  

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170. "So she "
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>
>Sit there and wait until AFTER this presidential election
>stuff ($$$$) is over and then assess the situation. It seems
>like she wanted to be in a Meagan Kelly position being a
>moderator at the debates or something.

wait until next year on the off chance they toss her some crumbs ?
I believe she wanted to continue to do Nerd land and MSNBC wanted nothing to do with her.

>
>And now, Joy is sitting there "reading the news".
>But, I've seen Joy on sooo many things giving her opinion and
>not just "reading the news" that it makes me feel like MHP was
>short sighted and didn't wait things out.
>MHP could have been in Joy's shoes.
>

Even with Joy showing up on other shows and reading the news she is still doing less than what she was doing on her own show.
MHP saw the writing on the wall. When a company says indirectly they want to get rid of you, it means they want to get rid of you.


>
>You are speaking of the fallout.
>I'm talking about before it even reached that point.
>She needed to laylow and let the presidential stuff blow over
>and then assess the situation.
>MSNBC didn't "do her dirty".
>They are a news channel that makes money by selling ad space.
>Her show did not garner the premium for ad rates so she kept
>getting pushed into a corner.
>That's why Locked Up Abroad was shown in heavy rotation
>instead of her.
>She needed to amass more viewers so she could command a
>premium for her ad rates.
>That didn't happen so MSNBC made a conscientious business
>decision.

It was already at that point when they changed things what identified the show as MHP Nerd land. The decision was already made. Cancelling her show without telling her is dirty. Ignoring her when she ask about the show is dirty. Telling her to read the news is dirty.
Chris Hayes has been doing terrible in his time slot since he got it, so if this really comes down to ratings and money he would have been gone before her. She was on the weekends in the mornings, Chris is sitting in a primetime spot 5 days a week.

No, MSNBC got rid of MHP and moved AL because Obama is on his way out.

>Maybe they had focus groups and MSNBC viewers wanted less of
>what MHP was discussing and more "regular news"?

I doubt it, they can get more regular news anywhere, how many people are getting up on the weekends to watch more regular news.

>I don't know,but she should have given things more time to
>play out.

More time means wait until next year. They are going to stay with the political news all the way through the election.

>Just think, she could be doing everything she's doing now AND
>have 300,000 MSNBC viewers as a backup.
>instead, she only has what she does now.

So stick around and get treated like trash so that 300,000 people could watch her read the news and go on other shows to give her opinion. Accept crumbs over freedom.

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171. "This is putting Joy in a bad position"
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>wait until next year on the off chance they toss her some
>crumbs ?
>I believe she wanted to continue to do Nerd land and MSNBC
>wanted nothing to do with her.


Why did MSNBC want nothing to do with MHP but they brought another Blackface in and is dealing with her just fine?
Could it be MHP was too radical or does Joy have that passiveness that MSNBC is looking for?




>Even with Joy showing up on other shows and reading the news
>she is still doing less than what she was doing on her own
>show.
>MHP saw the writing on the wall. When a company says
>indirectly they want to get rid of you, it means they want to
>get rid of you.

But why did MSNBC want to get rid of MHP just to put another Blackface in her spot?
What happened?
I don't get the sense that MHP = Malcolm X and Joy = Lawrence Otis Graham at all.



>It was already at that point when they changed things what
>identified the show as MHP Nerd land. The decision was already
>made. Cancelling her show without telling her is dirty.
>Ignoring her when she ask about the show is dirty. Telling her
>to read the news is dirty.
>Chris Hayes has been doing terrible in his time slot since he
>got it, so if this really comes down to ratings and money he
>would have been gone before her. She was on the weekends in
>the mornings, Chris is sitting in a primetime spot 5 days a
>week.
>
>No, MSNBC got rid of MHP and moved AL because Obama is on his
>way out.
>


Usually, an employer won't tell an employee they are about to be fired until the employee is in the conference room and the final check has already been cut.
And if you're in a position like MHP the employer will do things like gradually give others your workload and responsibilities to make it less of a shock to the rest of the team when you're actually gone.
I don't see this as dirty.
It is just business.
MSNBC knew this was MHP's "night job" just to make some extra cash so she wouldn't be hard up for money when they let her go.



>>Maybe they had focus groups and MSNBC viewers wanted less of
>>what MHP was discussing and more "regular news"?
>
>I doubt it, they can get more regular news anywhere, how many
>people are getting up on the weekends to watch more regular
>news.
>
>>I don't know,but she should have given things more time to
>>play out.
>
>More time means wait until next year. They are going to stay
>with the political news all the way through the election.
>
>>Just think, she could be doing everything she's doing now
>AND
>>have 300,000 MSNBC viewers as a backup.
>>instead, she only has what she does now.
>
>So stick around and get treated like trash so that 300,000
>people could watch her read the news and go on other shows to
>give her opinion. Accept crumbs over freedom.

I see things differently.
MSNBC doesn't owe anyone anything.
MHP doesn't owe MSNBC anything but she DOES owe Black folks something by being in a position to be the VOICE and SPREAD THE WORD even if it is only one paragraph NOW vs an entire book previously.

I just think a little of something is better than none of a lot.
I'm only thankful that Joy was able to fill that void and not some WASP.
Being on MSNBC made it convenient for me and other Black women to hear MHP. not we have to go signing up for podcasts and the like to hear what she has to say. Essentially putting her book on the highest shelf instead of at eye level.


I'm glad we can have discussions about this and stay respectful.
That has not been happening here for me lately.

  

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172. " Usually, an employer won't tell an employee they are about to be fired"
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= I quit before you can fire me

if MSNBC was still cutting checks, I don't she what she gained by walking

and having seen Joy in MHP's timslot this weekend

a couple of topics like Confirmation, and the Jackie Robinson doc

with the majority of guest commentators being black

yeah, it really didn't feel that much different from a MHP show

IMO

we can pretend this some moral victory

but to me, in hindsight looks like MHP got in her feelings and didn't think this through

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173. "RE: This is putting Joy in a bad position"
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>
>Why did MSNBC want nothing to do with MHP but they brought
>another Blackface in and is dealing with her just fine?
>Could it be MHP was too radical or does Joy have that
>passiveness that MSNBC is looking for?
>

Joy Reid was already there, she had a show before they ended it. In the podcast interview that MHP did, she said the parent company signed or agreed to diversity so that the Comcast GE merger would go through. So they have to put on a few POC.


>
>But why did MSNBC want to get rid of MHP just to put another
>Blackface in her spot?
>What happened?
>I don't get the sense that MHP = Malcolm X and Joy = Lawrence
>Otis Graham at all.
>

Pressure from MHP's noisy exit.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-melissa-harris-perry-msnbc-diversity-minorities-20160304-story.html


>
>
>Usually, an employer won't tell an employee they are about to
>be fired until the employee is in the conference room and the
>final check has already been cut.
>And if you're in a position like MHP the employer will do
>things like gradually give others your workload and
>responsibilities to make it less of a shock to the rest of the
>team when you're actually gone.
>I don't see this as dirty.
>It is just business.
>MSNBC knew this was MHP's "night job" just to make some extra
>cash so she wouldn't be hard up for money when they let her
>go.
>

That might be true if she were the only with a show taken off the air, but they ended several shows without playing games and making the host drag it out of them. They didn't just give others her workload, they ripped her name off the door and turned her away when she showed up at the office ready to work.


>
>I see things differently.
>MSNBC doesn't owe anyone anything.
>MHP doesn't owe MSNBC anything but she DOES owe Black folks
>something by being in a position to be the VOICE and SPREAD
>THE WORD even if it is only one paragraph NOW vs an entire
>book previously.
>

MSNBC is part of Comcast which makes some of its money from Public airwaves. So MSNBC owes a lot of people more than 24/7 white faces.
MHP would be selling those Black folks out if she shut up and took it or turned into a hand puppet.

>I just think a little of something is better than none of a
>lot.
>I'm only thankful that Joy was able to fill that void and not
>some WASP.
>Being on MSNBC made it convenient for me and other Black women
>to hear MHP. not we have to go signing up for podcasts and the
>like to hear what she has to say. Essentially putting her book
>on the highest shelf instead of at eye level.
>

Crumbs are not doing us any good. Look at the Democrats, we accepted crumbs from them and ended up with the DLC and Bill Clinton.

>I'm glad we can have discussions about this and stay
>respectful.
>That has not been happening here for me lately.

Thank you. It is a thing on this board where disrespect is more important then the discussion. I had one person tell me he was just in a thread I was replying in, just to act like a fool and be a clown, not to respond to the topic.

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legsdiamond
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176. "MHP said she wasnt going to read cards and be a bobble head"
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She got into trouble with MSNBC because she wanted to talk about the Vehicle Formation performance and the backlash and when producers said no she did it anyway.

Joy isn't MHP. Not saying she weak but more than likely she needs the gig and doesn't have a problem readingcards and doing whatever the network wants.

MHP is on some black rebel Shit and this is why she left.

I think the critique of MHP by some black folk is correct too. MSNBC wanted her because Obama was in office. Now that he is on his way out they no longer want/need MHP.

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175. "More than likely this is all Joy and Chris Hayes have going for them"
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if your dream is to do TV then more than likely you will deal with whatever is thrown at you unless you are a ratings king.

MHP kinda fell into a TV gig. She bounced anytime she felt she wasn't getting a fair shake in academia and always landed on her feet.

I give her props for making sure SHE controlled her message

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165. "Ummm her day job is a professor "
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Which she is still doing just fine and if you follow her on any aspect of social media you will see that. Plus she is still an indemand public speaker. So yeah she may not be on a national television show but that does not mean she is silenced. She maybe silenced for you but that is because you only checked for her on that show and none of the other outlets she already had and still has. I respect her for her decision and think the network did her dirty in many ways. They wanted to make sure she knew her place and she let them know that she can't be bought. Salute.

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167. "When you go from selling out 20,000 seat arenas on World Tours..."
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>So yeah she may not be on a
>national television show but that does not mean she is
>silenced. She maybe silenced for you but that is because you
>only checked for her on that show and none of the other
>outlets she already had and still has.

to doing 100 person speaking engagements at your mother's monthly book club at Barnes and Noble
Unfortunately, you've been silenced.

MSNBC allowed her to be heard by those that don't actively seek (or remember to seek) her out.
For example, 45 year old white mothers of three from Kansas.

Her viewership has been greatly been compromised.
Yes, she still has a nice tenure track position where she can effect 300 souls 1 hour at a time every Monday, Wednesday and Friday
But she had upwards of 100,000 souls all across the country every time her segment came on MSNBC.

It's like going from Creflo Dollar to your local pastor at a storefront church. The message is real and the same, but the number of lives you reach is not.

  

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169. "we just see it differently"
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numbers aren't the end all be all for me
she had to do what she needed to do to be true to herself
and i appreciate her for that
not many people are able to do that
i don't at all believe her story is finished
and if it is....i am still grateful what she added to the landscape
plus best believe her leaving in such a public way is and will continue to impact networks decisions when it comes to diversity


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174. "you cant convince people who put money over everything"
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to see it as anything but an L. These people only 1 revenue stream so they don't understand how you turn down a tv gig and a fat check.

These people actually think MSNBC putting other black people on a show proves she fucked up.

It was never about Black people, it was about content.

I envy people, especially black people who say "fuck your money, I'm not doing that shit"

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162. "we already knew, look who was in here caping for her emotional ass"
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153. "She was beyond corny anyways.."
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with her dumb ass lisp.

yupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyup

  

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158. "Lmao, she did have a tough ass lisp"
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177. "The fact is she didn't count here books and got set. "
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178. "you suck at this"
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179. "Stop being so dramatic"
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180. "thx... this is all i wanted"
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181. "My attention? Really? Awwwww"
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182. "nah, a post without a misspelling.. lol"
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