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John Forte
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"Meaningful generational cut-offs"


          

I'm on the younger end of Gen X, and I don't think there's many differences between my cohort and the older millennials. We all grew up on Cosby, both MJs. We listened to the same hip-hop. We actually bought CDs and shit.


I think a lot of the generational cut-offs are kind of arbitrary. I think the following things are meaningful:

-People who grew up with the internet vs people who didn't. There's a generation gap between me and people who had email, search engines and fucking Napster in 6th grade.

-People who have had cell phones their entire social lives vs those who didn't

  

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When you really start thinking about your generation
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This is all true, but
Jan 14th 2016
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      ....because a 34 YO ain't a millenial.
Jan 14th 2016
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      As a 34 y.o. Gen X-er, gotta say I agree
Jan 14th 2016
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           If Britney Spears was out when you were in high school
Jan 19th 2016
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                Baby One More Time came out when I was a senior
Jan 19th 2016
39
I'm a millenial but the cut-off and age range always varies
Jan 14th 2016
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I think there's a legit lost generation pocket that a lot of us are par...
Jan 14th 2016
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Millenials are supposedly '82-'04
Jan 14th 2016
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I think this definition has shifted over time
Jan 14th 2016
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      Has Gen Y been split between Gen X & the Millenials? n/m
Jan 14th 2016
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the bama generation.....
Jan 14th 2016
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other potential cutoffs
Jan 14th 2016
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good one. rolling down windows was standard
Jan 14th 2016
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rap beefs
Jan 14th 2016
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lol knew this was you
Jan 14th 2016
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Typewriters
Jan 14th 2016
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Growing up with hip-hop as a mainstream pop
Jan 14th 2016
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^^^ Good one...
Jan 14th 2016
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beepers
Jan 14th 2016
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Surveillance
Jan 14th 2016
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theres really only 2 that matter for X/millenial
Jan 14th 2016
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Whether your main source of new music was Record Stores, MTV
Jan 14th 2016
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I'm trying to figure out the MTV delineation
Jan 14th 2016
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My first name...
Jan 14th 2016
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Man, I don't know which of those I would go to first.
Jan 14th 2016
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Yup
Jan 14th 2016
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Whenever the recipes for triceps pushdowns was lost.
Jan 14th 2016
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televisions with and without knobs and buttons (vs remotes)
Jan 14th 2016
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happy meals don't have cookies anymore?!?!
Jan 14th 2016
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nah man
Jan 14th 2016
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real.
Jan 14th 2016
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When did they stop frying the pies?
Jan 14th 2016
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For New Yorkers, tokens versus MetroCard
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or subway fare (price)
Jan 14th 2016
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Ice Cube, Ice T and LL Cool J.
Jan 14th 2016
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Kids only know Dr. Dre as the headphone guy
Jan 14th 2016
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Michael Jackson.
Jan 19th 2016
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participation trophies.
Jan 19th 2016
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The generations don't solidify until the next generation shows up.
Jan 19th 2016
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T Reynolds
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1. "When you really start thinking about your generation"
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that's how you know you old

all the old guys at work are intent on asking younger guys what generation they are of, complaining about all the millennial fuckboys © etc.

  

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John Forte
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4. "This is all true, but"
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I think I have more in common with a 34-year-old millennial, then that 34-year-old has with a 20-year-old millennial.

  

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5. "....because a 34 YO ain't a millenial."
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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T Reynolds
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12. "As a 34 y.o. Gen X-er, gotta say I agree"
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there is a shared experience and a general perspective of the world and society that has changed since the advent of social media, lived in a world before omnipresent surveillance

I haven't dealt with young folks to the point of really getting to know them outside of the realm of volunteer work, but there are plenty of ways we can relate to each other. I don't think it's so much an inability of our generations to understand each other as much as the older generation's knowledge that there was a way of life the younger generation could have no conception of. That memory is what creates those lines, rather than a different set of values or mode of behavior that often is assigned to other generations somewhat arbitrarily.

  

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John Forte
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36. " If Britney Spears was out when you were in high school "
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You're not Gen X

  

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39. "Baby One More Time came out when I was a senior"
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2. "I'm a millenial but the cut-off and age range always varies"
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I remember growing up I thought I was a gen xer, because they talked about them as youth. I didn't realize I was too young for anyone to give a fuck about.

But I got an email address in 7th grade.
Cell phone between 11th and 12th grade. (first of my friends to have one)

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veritas
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3. "I think there's a legit lost generation pocket that a lot of us are par..."
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Born around 1979-1985 or so.

We're not Millenials and we aren't Gen X.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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14. "Millenials are supposedly '82-'04"
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GenX '61-'81

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John Forte
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20. "I think this definition has shifted over time"
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I was born in 75 and I remember, in the 90s, being on the young end of Gen X. I think it used to end in 77 or 79. My little sister who was born in 80, Was definitely considered generation Y back then.

  

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24. "Has Gen Y been split between Gen X & the Millenials? n/m"
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32. "the bama generation....."
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"Get ready..for your blessing..."

  

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Selah
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6. "other potential cutoffs"
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automatic car windows as a standard feature (or maybe seatbelts)

all-cartoon (or kid-centric in general) tv networks



  

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9. "good one. rolling down windows was standard"
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I might still tell someone to "roll down the window" today.

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7. "rap beefs"
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are you more Drake vs. Meek Mill

Hov vs Nas


Biggie vs Pac


or Bridge Wars?

  

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26. "lol knew this was you"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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8. "Typewriters"
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I had a manual typewriter, then an electric with that swiveling head. I can't imagine anyone younger than 30 having any real connection to typewriters.

Tuning Televisions. Even before flatscreens, in the 2000s and late 90s, tvs didn't have tuning knobs. No one born in the Clinton years could really know what that was about, and furthermore, really appreciate flat screen tvs like older folks.

Answering the question "When. I. First. Heard. Criminal. Minded. 'daaamn where was I?" Alot of those seminal hip hop albums exist in a old school rap fog to many youngsters without clear deliniations or chronology, much like 50s music and doo wop was for our generation. It seems like Melle Mel, Run DMC, LL, KRS, Slick Rick all came out in some endless summer in the 80s to them.

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10. "Growing up with hip-hop as a mainstream pop"
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21. "^^^ Good one..."
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I remember our local black station refusing to play hip-hop. It paved the way for the "Hot hip-hop & R&B" station in the early 90s.

  

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11. "beepers"
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=======================================
Coolin...

  

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13. "Surveillance"
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did you grow up in a time when pepole could get away with a lot of shit

or nah

  

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15. "theres really only 2 that matter for X/millenial"
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did you grow up with ubiquitous Internet and was 9/11 news or history.

The lost gap had gradually increasing internet in their house growing up (goddammit my Mom picked up the phone and kicked me off AIM) and were HS or college age during 9/11.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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16. "Whether your main source of new music was Record Stores, MTV "
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or the Internet.


>I'm on the younger end of Gen X, and I don't think there's
>many differences between my cohort and the older millennials.
>We all grew up on Cosby, both MJs. We listened to the same
>hip-hop. We actually bought CDs and shit.
>
>
>I think a lot of the generational cut-offs are kind of
>arbitrary. I think the following things are meaningful:
>
>-People who grew up with the internet vs people who didn't.
>There's a generation gap between me and people who had email,
>search engines and fucking Napster in 6th grade.
>
>-People who have had cell phones their entire social lives vs
>those who didn't
>
>


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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22. "I'm trying to figure out the MTV delineation"
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I was going to say there's some type of split between the generation that watched MTV solely for music and or dance shows and the ones who watched it mostly for cartoons, reality shows, etc.

  

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17. "My first name..."
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My generation = "Oh like Keenan Ivory Wayans?"
Next generation = "Oh like Kenan & Kel?"

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19. "Man, I don't know which of those I would go to first."
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Probably Keenan Ivory Wayans because I never watched Kenan and Kel as a show. I definitely watched the first couple seasons of All That. In Living Color was (obviously) first for me and my mom called the cast members by name

But they both existed in my world at the same time.

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35. "Yup"
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>My generation = "Oh like Keenan Ivory Wayans?"
>Next generation = "Oh like Kenan & Kel?"

My generation = "Oh like Radio Raheem?"
Next generation = "Oh like Raheem DeVaughn?"

Lions don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhuYIr1J1zc

  

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18. "Whenever the recipes for triceps pushdowns was lost."
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http://www.goldmansachs.com/our-thinking/pages/millennials/index.html?cid=PS_01_18_07_00_02_15_01

^^^ This brings a formal distinction in ages between baby boomers, Gen Xers, and Millenial Fuckboys (c)

  

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23. "televisions with and without knobs and buttons (vs remotes)"
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two mcdonalds related ones

pre/post fried pies

pre/post happymeals with cookies inside

finally

pre-post black-and-white tvs (when was the last time you saw a non-color TV?)

  

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28. "happy meals don't have cookies anymore?!?!"
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30. "nah man"
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no cookies

a go-gurt tube or a mini orange

another change is they now have a little teeny-tiny thing with like 5 fries in it (instead of a full "small")

for "health reasons"

  

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29. "real."
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>pre/post fried pies

https://digife.com

  

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33. "When did they stop frying the pies?"
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There are dozens of us! Dozens!

  

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25. "For New Yorkers, tokens versus MetroCard"
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27. "or subway fare (price)"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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31. "Ice Cube, Ice T and LL Cool J. "
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Cool rappers versus TV Personalities.


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34. "Kids only know Dr. Dre as the headphone guy"
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And Jordan as the shoe guy.

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37. "Michael Jackson."
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Pre/post 'Wacko Jacko'...we remember him b4 he was mostly a punchline

Pre/post darkness...we remember when he was dark(er).

...our parents remember him b4 Thriller, of course. That's meaningful but irrelevant to this discussion as we don't really remember him b4 Thriller even though we were alive then.

fuck you.

  

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38. "participation trophies."
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pre/post.

fuck you.

  

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40. "The generations don't solidify until the next generation shows up."
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Whatever the youngest defined generation is will usually be treated as an all encompassing group until the next generation is makes itself clear.

I was born in 79, and was always considered part of Gen X. But Gen X seemed fluid and always shifting to refer to the youngest generation, until it was clear that Millennials were separate.

In our era the biggest separation between Gen X and Millennials is with technology - on whether you are a digital immigrant or digital native. Your age when 9/11 hit is another big separator for Americans.

  

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