"Samples that came from unexpected sources?" Fri Dec-11-15 03:51 PM by Rjcc
aka the "You Gotta Listen To the WHOLE Song When Diggin'" post.
This post is dedicated to that corny 80's pop song that sourced a banger, or the huge vocal jazz artist who decided to do ONE deep funk song that one time.
My first submissions:
Bucks Fizz - My Camera Never Lies (actual loop for the sample is at 2:21, not the beginning)
anybody deep into music enough to even imagine a way to sample anything by Phillip Glass is, IMO, a mad genius.
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out? Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then? They don't want to call for peace then.
PoppaGeorge Member since Nov 07th 2004 10384 posts
Fri Dec-11-15 03:51 PM
4. "I've listened to some Phillip Glass stuff back in the 80's" In response to Reply # 2
he was always just a weirdo that made music for other weirdos as far as I was concerned. I never thought to try sampling his material.
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out? Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then? They don't want to call for peace then.
PoppaGeorge Member since Nov 07th 2004 10384 posts
Fri Dec-11-15 04:06 PM
8. "By volume, pretty much" In response to Reply # 5
but I'd still put El P's range of sample material against Dilla's any day.
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out? Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then? They don't want to call for peace then.
28. "it's just the Give it To Me Baby bass notes slowed down and chopped" In response to Reply # 17
They're open on the front of the record. The piano stuff comes from a Keith Jarrett record.
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43. "that song came on the ipod Friday while in the car with the wife" In response to Reply # 17
I told her to guess the sample and she couldnt of course. When I told her she still couldnt get it. I spent like 30 minutes trying to hum it and piece it together for her and she couldnt hear it. That shit is genius.
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Dj Joey Joe Member since Sep 01st 2007 13770 posts
Sun Dec-13-15 12:19 PM
48. "I Think It's About How He Chopped & Composed It" In response to Reply # 43
>I told her to guess the sample and she couldnt of course. >When I told her she still couldnt get it. I spent like 30 >minutes trying to hum it and piece it together for her >and she couldnt hear it. That shit is genius.
I've always been a fan, but what made he different is wasn't what he sampled but the fact that he would sample & compose what something different or in a way nobody would've thought of doing; and then make it banging not experimental.
What also got my brain warped was when he sampled Janet Jackson's "Come Give Your Love To Me", a hard pop joint with basically no break or easy to loop parts but he takes guitar stabs and vocals and turns it into another piece. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He-M8JsNUk4
After those joints, everybody had to up their chopping game or stay lazy cause it was no longer about finding the dopest loop, it was about how you find bits and turn it into a beat.
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37. "there's open instrumental parts all over that record" In response to Reply # 31
It takes a serious level of timing to do because the hi hats are still on time and don't clash.
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Dj Joey Joe Member since Sep 01st 2007 13770 posts
Sun Dec-13-15 01:37 PM
50. "Maybe Cause He Heard Pete Rock Sample It First As An Interlude" In response to Reply # 31
I don't know why everyone is awe over that sample when Pete Rock sampled it first as an interlude back in 1994 on the song "In The House" https://youtu.be/4QoUrxqoXes?t=4m28s
I will say J-Dilla used more of the sample but to me I always thought it was a loop when Pete first did it, this is the 4th time Jay found and sampled the same tune that Pete did and it ended up on a song, remember Que-D.'s "Rock Box"?
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now or never Member since Oct 27th 2004 3821 posts
Fri Dec-11-15 03:54 PM
6. "seals and crofts - sweet green fields" In response to Reply # 0
you'll recognize it about 10 secs in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ1__DzD15M ----- No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. (c) HL Mencken or some other motherfucker.
-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Fri Dec-11-15 04:59 PM
16. "25 years later, I heard the Wynton track that "Hot music" came from" In response to Reply # 0
That shit low key blew my mind. If I went through Wynton's track for 5 hours on repeat to find something to chop, I still don't think I coulda caught that and made it into what they did with it. It's ridiculous.
i used to go about 45 seconds before the sample comes in and loop it so folks will be dancing then all of a sudden it's frenetic jazz and the sample comes in and folks go nuts
that's my favorite thing to do. for a second ppl are like 'wtf?!?' then go nuts
22. "RE: Skain's Domain" In response to Reply # 18
I wanna get booked at some big ass west side NY club just to do this.. lol
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is this truly the reason? what about before when sometimes albums were literally composed of bits and pieces from other songs?!?!?! so now is more expensive than before?
or maybe people are lazy to dig in the crates
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47. "RE: $$$$$$" In response to Reply # 46 Sun Dec-13-15 02:12 AM by RobOne4
in the late 80's and early 90's nobody was clearing (paying) for samples. They were just doing it. It all changed in 91 after Biz Markie was sued for sampling Alone Again for his song Alone Again. From then on artists were responsible for getting the okay for all samples used. But artists kept on doing it. They figured if they sampled obscure songs and only cleared the obvious and popular songs they would be fine. But even then it gets dangerous because if you are caught after the fact the price tag is definitely going to cost more than the original clearance fee would have been. Now with the internet it is definitely easier to get caught. Also prices have gone up. Before just some of the bigger names were expensive. I think Barry White was one of the most expensive at one time. But the big names. So find an obscure artist or group and you were good. Not anymore. Everyone is expensive. Record labels dont make money selling records anymore so gotta find other avenues or revenue.
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49. "the real reason is because it's hard to do" In response to Reply # 42
The cost of sampling isnreally just a scapegoat for not having it in you do it properly.
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PoppaGeorge Member since Nov 07th 2004 10384 posts
Mon Dec-14-15 01:14 PM
60. "nah, technology has made sampling waaaaay easier today" In response to Reply # 49
Back inna day you really needed to have an ear for it an patience to chop up your samples right. Nowadays the shit chops it up for you.
If you've ever had to chop up a sample by ear -only- you know how difficult it can be to get it *jusssst right*. I used to have one of these samplers back inna day:
I can sample anything and get it right every time.
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out? Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then? They don't want to call for peace then.
-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Sun Dec-13-15 07:20 PM
54. "You realize how many artists have put out great songs" In response to Reply # 42
in the last ten years that didn't make their album? Or even wondered why some artists had great mixtapes and wack albums? Sample clearance is a HUUUUUUGE, huge issue.
53. "Primo is probably the all-time king of this" In response to Reply # 0
Sampling that Hoagy Carmichael somg for "Bring it On" was pretty vicious, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Mon Dec-14-15 07:18 PM
67. "Well at most tributes, they play all the songs that are sampled by the" In response to Reply # 66
artist as well...keeps the energy up to. So they were probably confused at first, but they love ODB too...those type crowds love 90's Hip Hop just as much as the Soul
PoppaGeorge Member since Nov 07th 2004 10384 posts
Mon Dec-14-15 10:31 PM
74. "ionno... I kinda always thought that one was pretty obvious" In response to Reply # 72
As soon as I hear "what do we get for $10???" I knew exactly where that came from.
Even the rest of the song was pretty obvious to anyone that grew up through the funk era of the 70's/early 80's ("Firecracker" by Mass Production).
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out? Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then? They don't want to call for peace then.
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