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"Poll question: NWA's NIGGAZ4LIFE Album was a White Supremacist Wet Dream"


  

          

maybe it's cuz im a new dad but lord....

discuss amongst urselves

Poll result (19 votes)
i agree (12 votes)Vote
nah (7 votes)Vote
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when it first dropped, I swore they were taking the piss...
Aug 13th 2015
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im a nigga, u'z a nigga, we some niggas wouldnt u like 2 b a nigga too
Aug 13th 2015
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that was the album after Cube left?
Aug 13th 2015
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      i thought they had one LP or EP before NFL
Aug 13th 2015
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      100 mIles and running EP came out before
Aug 13th 2015
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      Cube was only on Straight Outta Compton
Aug 13th 2015
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I agree with this. They went ALL the way CB4
Aug 17th 2015
46
that album had some of Dre's best producing on it. that was my shit...
Aug 13th 2015
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yes. the lyrics though...
Aug 13th 2015
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And look at Dre now. So successful!
Aug 13th 2015
11
I think it's weird they make it look like Jerry Heller and Iovine were
Aug 13th 2015
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It's not weird if you know who runs that industry
Aug 13th 2015
8
Yea. I, for one, was *certain* Dre, as producer, would make Iovine...
Aug 13th 2015
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You don't remember all those bad bad things Dre said about Heller
Aug 13th 2015
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      LOL @ this
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           To be honest I didn't know Dre produced it.
Aug 13th 2015
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                Word.
Aug 13th 2015
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RE: I think it's weird they make it look like Jerry Heller and Iovine we...
Aug 19th 2015
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it's unlistenable.
Aug 13th 2015
10
lol...so many legit cringe-worthy lines
Aug 13th 2015
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i love it.
Aug 13th 2015
12
it doesnt love u though
Aug 13th 2015
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      I love this board.
Aug 13th 2015
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      i don't love to be loved back.
Aug 19th 2015
50
I don't think I've ever heard that album
Aug 13th 2015
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It was one of my favorite rap albums when I first got into the music.
Aug 13th 2015
18
These NIGGAZ4LIFE don't care.
Aug 13th 2015
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Beautiful Shit talk
Aug 13th 2015
20
That shit goes so hard, its a classic, if you don't like it you don't...
Aug 13th 2015
23
can u love blk ppl yet like this album?
Aug 13th 2015
27
I don't like West Coast Gangsta rap. Seriously the entire subgenre
Aug 14th 2015
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we'll if you're under 30 you kinda missed the movement, underneath...
Aug 17th 2015
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      to keep it real, they had 2 albums and only one with social commentary
Aug 17th 2015
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           it wasn't just the social commentary, a lot of the negative stuff too...
Aug 17th 2015
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           sounds like a white supremacist's wet dream
Aug 17th 2015
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                maybe so
Aug 17th 2015
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           Yeah let's be real: Cube was the driving force behind their social comme...
Aug 17th 2015
44
RE: That shit goes so hard, its a classic, if you don't like it you don'...
Aug 17th 2015
41
Quik, Eiht, Cube, D.O.C., Above the Law etc were all writing much better...
Aug 17th 2015
42
      RE: Quik, Eiht, Cube, D.O.C., Above the Law etc were all writing much be...
Aug 19th 2015
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many cringe worthy mmnts but bk in the early 90s we gave it mch burn
Aug 13th 2015
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some of Dre's best production
Aug 13th 2015
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this post has been sponsored by TOKP
Aug 13th 2015
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LOL @ this thread + your post & avy
Aug 14th 2015
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      lol
Aug 14th 2015
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      Lmao!
Aug 21st 2015
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I bought the tape with the money i received for graduating elementary sc...
Aug 13th 2015
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Very niggerish..............yet still very entertaining
Aug 14th 2015
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the title track was extremely important
Aug 14th 2015
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hmmmm.... i relistened to it... u might have a point
Aug 17th 2015
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Word up. They was kicking realism on that joint
Aug 17th 2015
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I couldn't understand why they went that route. Just cartoonish ignoran...
Aug 17th 2015
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RE: I couldn't understand why they went that route. Just cartoonish ign...
Aug 17th 2015
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And Ren head writer
Aug 19th 2015
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      RE: And Ren head writer
Aug 19th 2015
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      RE: And Ren head writer
Aug 20th 2015
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Jerry Heller also had them turn the volume up as well
Aug 20th 2015
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      gotta listen to massa
Aug 20th 2015
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Speech from Arested Development is co-signing me:
Aug 21st 2015
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RE: Speech from Arested Development is co-signing me:
Aug 21st 2015
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Dstl1
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1. "when it first dropped, I swore they were taking the piss..."
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felt like a parody album, almost.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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2. "im a nigga, u'z a nigga, we some niggas wouldnt u like 2 b a nigga too"
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3. "that was the album after Cube left?"
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when Cube left, I left.

Amerikka's Most Wanted got all my West Coast money.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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5. "i thought they had one LP or EP before NFL"
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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26. "100 mIles and running EP came out before "
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7. "Cube was only on Straight Outta Compton"
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after that, they released the EP 100 Miles and Runnin where they were dissing him than released the full LP Niggaz4life where they kept dissing him and that was their last album...

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46. "I agree with this. They went ALL the way CB4"
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not what I was expecting after hearing "100 Miles and Runnin" and the first singles from that album.

like, on the title track: dudes was like, "yeah, we're saying this outrageous shit because you motherfuckers eat it up, fuck you"

  

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4. "that album had some of Dre's best producing on it. that was my shit..."
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9. "yes. the lyrics though..."
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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

  

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11. "And look at Dre now. So successful! "
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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6. "I think it's weird they make it look like Jerry Heller and Iovine were"
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altruistic benefactors in the NWA narrative and not exploitative businessmen

  

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8. "It's not weird if you know who runs that industry"
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The game has not changed.

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13. "Yea. I, for one, was *certain* Dre, as producer, would make Iovine..."
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look terrible. I am shocked.

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15. "You don't remember all those bad bad things Dre said about Heller"
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o aite Brewski

  

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21. "LOL @ this"
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>o aite Brewski

^^^ that made me laugh.

Yea I wasn't talking about Heller. I'm surprised they (supposedly, I haven't seen the movie yet obviously) painted Heller in such a positive light too. But you included Iovine in your statement. I mean, did you really expect Dre would co-sign and produce a movie that painted his business partner and possible lover in a negative light?

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24. "To be honest I didn't know Dre produced it."
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Obviously that's his guy so knowing that, it wouldn't make any sense not to portray him in a positive light.

  

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30. "Word."
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51. "RE: I think it's weird they make it look like Jerry Heller and Iovine we..."
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Why would he portray Iovine negatively?

Interscope is built on the back of death row and pac (and no doubt to an extent).... then when Dre left death row.. he immediately gave him another deal... and let him fail for years till eminem came around

Then GAVE him eminem.. the game.. etc..

These dudes have made billions together...

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10. "it's unlistenable."
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i for real only listened to it once and not ever again. LOL

fuck you.

  

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17. "lol...so many legit cringe-worthy lines"
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12. "i love it."
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-30-
You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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16. "it doesnt love u though"
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think about that

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22. "I love this board."
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50. "i don't love to be loved back."
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-30-
You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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14. "I don't think I've ever heard that album"
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18. "It was one of my favorite rap albums when I first got into the music."
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I was listening to this about 3 years before I became a legit Hip-Hop head, even.

The first side is much better than the second side, though. I'd even say those first three tracks (Prelude, Real Niggas Don't Die, Niggaz 4 Life) might be the most exciting first 12 minutes of any Hip-Hop album I can think of.

  

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19. "These NIGGAZ4LIFE don't care."
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Mufuckas wanna meet online and talk about Black upliftment then turn around and
support some shit like this because "it's art".

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20. "Beautiful Shit talk"
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it's buffoonery, but WELL EXECUTED buffoonery

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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23. "That shit goes so hard, its a classic, if you don't like it you don't..."
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like west coast gangsta rap

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27. "can u love blk ppl yet like this album?"
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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

  

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33. "I don't like West Coast Gangsta rap. Seriously the entire subgenre"
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does nothing for me.

  

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37. "we'll if you're under 30 you kinda missed the movement, underneath..."
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all the shit talking bravado, they used to say a lot of real shit.

Today people are up in arms about police being out of control like its something new, NWA was talking about that shit 25 years ago.

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38. "to keep it real, they had 2 albums and only one with social commentary"
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and even on that album i can only think of 2 songs: Fuck The Police and perhaps Dopeman... might have somewhat of a case for Express Yourself

am i wrong?

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43. "it wasn't just the social commentary, a lot of the negative stuff too..."
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they were really the first rappers to glamorize selling drugs and
and gun play and rappers across the country emulated that.

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45. "sounds like a white supremacist's wet dream"
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>they were really the first rappers to glamorize selling drugs
>and
>and gun play and rappers across the country emulated that.

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49. "maybe so"
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44. "Yeah let's be real: Cube was the driving force behind their social comme..."
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And when he left he took that with him

  

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41. "RE: That shit goes so hard, its a classic, if you don't like it you don'..."
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Nah...I would say this^^^^for albums like the Chronic, DoggyStyle, Music To Drive By, Death Certificate, Life Is Too Short, ect....

But that Niggaz4Life was really only good for its production...Beyond that, the lyrics was on some CB4 shit...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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42. "Quik, Eiht, Cube, D.O.C., Above the Law etc were all writing much better..."
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>like west coast gangsta rap

songs.
The production on EfilZaggin was spectacular, but the lyrics weren't enjoyable at all.

Let my love slide in and never slip out

  

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52. "RE: Quik, Eiht, Cube, D.O.C., Above the Law etc were all writing much be..."
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>>like west coast gangsta rap
>
>songs.
>The production on EfilZaggin was spectacular, but the lyrics
>weren't enjoyable at all.
>
>Let my love slide in and never slip out

I agree with all of this

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25. "many cringe worthy mmnts but bk in the early 90s we gave it mch burn"
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always into somethin was a fuckin anthem

  

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28. "some of Dre's best production"
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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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29. "this post has been sponsored by TOKP"
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34. "LOL @ this thread + your post & avy"
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thanks for the laugh my man

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35. "lol"
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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60. "Lmao!"
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31. "I bought the tape with the money i received for graduating elementary sc..."
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and to this day is one of the best hip hop i've heard. i haven't listened to the whole album in about 15 years, but i don't think a white supremacist would understand that album. i know you're fishing ,but the bait is pretty weak.

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32. "Very niggerish..............yet still very entertaining"
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I remember when it came out. Even as an impressionable pre-teen, I'm like "nah, this is way too much." I felt the cussin', disrespect to women, and overall ignorance was over the top. They made a whole album just to see how many "muthafucks", "bitch", "ho", "dick", "pussy" they could cram into one album. Misogynistic shoot-em up gangstas who didn't give not 1 fuck. That's all I got from the album.
When that album dropped, they were the hottest thing out and was heralded as one of the best rap groups. That album sold the most among whites.....so yeah....you COULD say a white supremacists dream album where they didn't have to do no talking 'cause N.W.A. did it for them.
The beats were bangin' and I am for free speech and all.......but nah, that album was and still is a hard listen. That album was just dumb shit spewing over more dumb shit with a few jokes as intermission.
My preference of street rap back then was Ice-T. His rhymes had a more authentic feel and didn't seem over the top. He was just reppin' himself and what he knew.

  

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36. "the title track was extremely important"
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maybe even a precursor to Sucka Nigga

  

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39. "hmmmm.... i relistened to it... u might have a point"
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48. "Word up. They was kicking realism on that joint"
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I call myself a nigga cuz my skin won't lighten...

  

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40. "I couldn't understand why they went that route. Just cartoonish ignoran..."
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I couldn't sit through it 20+ years ago, it just seemed like a total regression.

Let my love slide in and never slip out

  

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47. "RE: I couldn't understand why they went that route. Just cartoonish ign..."
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>I couldn't sit through it 20+ years ago, it just seemed like
>a total regression.


No Cube....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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53. "And Ren head writer"
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That dude had a sick mind. I love Kizz My Black Azz but some of the lyrics he is straight crazy for.

  

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54. "RE: And Ren head writer"
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The bitch is a stripper but thinks she's a star
Still rides the bus, can't afford a fuckin' car
Try to be the shit, needs a foot up the ass
Ya stanky stanky bitch get a new bus pass
I see her all the time gettin' kicks from hard dicks
Your pussy really stinks, who the fuck bought you drinks
At the club, waitin' till two
So you can have a niggas dick shoved in you
Yo, don't know the meanin' of cleanin' your cock
Ya burnt seven niggas, yo, around the block
You always leave a trail, cause your pussy, it smell
Fuckin' ho, ya need to quit thinkin' that you're the shit
Your stomach fulla nut and just flushed a baby
Ya dumb fuckin' bitch yo ya must be crazy
So get back in your place ya little bitch I ain't no sucka
Cause all my niggas fucked her

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57. "RE: And Ren head writer"
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He went even further on Shock of the Hour. Still my dude though. I rocked his EP and first two LPs

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55. "Jerry Heller also had them turn the volume up as well"
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they had a mission to accomplish for him and his handlers.

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56. "gotta listen to massa"
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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58. "Speech from Arested Development is co-signing me:"
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http://beansouptimes.com/arrested-developments-lead-singer-speech-thomas-shares-thoughts-on-straight-outta-compton/#sthash.bozT9UQJ.T5B3sXow.dpbs

Arrested Development’s Lead Singer Speech Thomas Shares Thoughts On “Straight Outta Compton”

“I applaud Ice Cube, Gary F Gray & Dr. Dre because they know how to tell a great story! The accurate portrayal of a Hip Hop producer’s heart…. wanting to make something special…well done. The vicious sharks that swim in music industry waters…greatly exposed. The acting, promotion and soundtrack… superb! In a country where excellence in black film on the big screen isn’t seen enough, it’s proudly exhibited here.

But from the perspective of the ancestors, they got some explaining to do. Centuries of struggle by our men, women and children who were thoroughly desolate with only one hope. The hope that through their perseverance, future generations would have it better than they did. Many died for that very reason.
That’s the African-American legacy.

It was just two weeks ago, we all were discussing how soiled America still is from the horrors of slavery and the following systematic racism.

Blacks for hundreds of years purposely portrayed in every advertisement, news article, play, TV show and movie as dangerous, vile, uncaring, simple, roguish brutes, with intelligence a tad higher than a monkey. Year after year, decade after decade, century after century… And here we are today – as white trigger happy cops shoot blacks. It doesn’t matter if they’re unarmed, cuz in the minds of so many, blacks are always armed with centuries of dangerous propaganda. And a lie can run around the world twice before truth can get her shoes on!

And in comes Hollywood pushing yet ANOTHER movie with that same ole narrative… “Straight Outta Compton!” With the convenient subtitle – “The worlds most dangerous group.”

Is that literal or it’s figurative? None of them came from the most dangerous of street life but Easy E. right? I often hear that they’re dangerous because of Cube’s defiant lyrics & fierce determination to speak “truth” to power. Ummm, that sounds honorable.

But I’m sure I can come up with a few more suggestions more appropriate than NWA. The Black Panthers for instance might be better suited for such an honor. With fierce determination they defied an entire system at risk of their very lives! They REALLY fought for justice and most paid the ultimate price. An epic bio pic that shows how these brave young men and women organized change for all races and genders, showing true devotion mixed with legal prowess… that’s a film suggestion! And can I get a witness that NWA’s “F** the Police” is only the prevailing anti-police brutality anthem BECAUSE the music industry championed it. It didn’t take the FBI long at all to see that NWA was ultimately a harmless group because their other songs & political savvy was thoroughly misguided and non-directional. As opposed to the earlier & less popular “F** the Pigs” that the Black Panthers often shouted as they persevered through police harassment as actual freedom fighters, not as drug dealers and pretend thugs. Historically there were activists that started as thugs but TRANSFORMED into purposeful revolutionaries.

I’ve heard some say, the title “most dangerous” is as far as MUSICAL groups are concerned…. Ummm wouldn’t PUBLIC ENEMY better fit that definition? But see a movie like that would simply be too dangerous, it might cause people to do more than ooo and aaah over the financial success of a music producer & rapper who made nice movies and headphones. It might cause REAL change.

NWA may be the most dangerous, but not because they fought against a racist and oppressive system… but because they were effective ambassadors of that very system! I like to call it white supremacy on wax! Who else could have done such a great job at spreading the age old message that blacks are morally sub-human? Many things white supremacists say about blacks is what NWA confirms in their most popular songs. And yes, in 2015 Twitter is going nuts praising the film and much of the hiphop world is bowing down to NWA as heroes in the genre. But I applaud a good number of blacks that “don’t believe the hype”!

Bio pics about rap artists are few and far between, but take notice to WHICH rap movies Hollywood green lights for major motion picture release? And have you ever thought about WHY these particular movies?

Biggie’s Notorious, Eminem’s 8 Mile, 50 Cent’s Get Rich or Die Trying and NWA’s Straight Outta Compton! Most of which come straight outta Jimmy Iovine’s & Dre’s storehouse of thuggery, and celebrate the “American Dream” thru gritty accounts of drug deals, crack addicted communities, strip clubs, friends that deceive each other and gun battles gone wrong. And then the inevitable transformation from rags to riches. As they live happily ever after (in their death though). Oh yeah, Biggie was about right, that if you’re black…you’re nobody til somebody kills you!

To quote Public Enemy… “Burn Hollywood Burn!” They’re pretty much about money and judging by this past weekends ticket sales… THEY’RE WINNING! Stay tuned for a Tupac, Ice T and whomever else da cap fits bio pic for us all to swoon over!

Feed us our illusions, Hollywood has no skin in the game, it’s just money to them. But don’t we as blacks literally have skin in the game?

It’s our SKIN that signals brainwashed cops to pull us over just because we didn’t use a turn signal. Or blow our brains out for trying to start our car while being questioned. Or get choked to death, spines snapped, or just walking home wearing a hoodie.

BUT SOMEBODY BLACK KEEPS PROUDLY DELIVERING THESE MOVIES TO HOLLYWOOD.

There’s gotta be a point where we WEIGH the pains we feel from years of being mis-represented against the joy we feel seeing another black thug soliloquy on the big screen! The pain lasts for years, the joy last 2 and a half hours. You do the math.

There’s gotta be a breaking point when we make a critical decision. Directionless expression or real freedom? I know, I know… no one screams when Scorsese does a gangster film, why pick on rappers? Because Jewish people aren’t making these movies WHILE simultaneously getting shot down in the streets by their own kind, arrested in astronomical rates and their rappers literally getting assassinated like they were in a Middle East war zone!

When is enough… ENOUGH!?

Consciousness didn’t start with NWA, J. Cole, Kendrick Lamar’s “To Pimp a Butterfly”, nor ‪#‎blacklivesmatter‬.

It’s been in full effect since slavery and we must keep our eyes on the prize to reach the finish line!
On the big screen, these rappers are portrayed as bigger than life heroes and even somehow “freedom fighters”! But TRUE heroes like Julian Bond, Garvey, Harriet & Parks deserve a bio pic, because they served US all! But would we support it?

It NEVER was enough to have a conscious song or two on an otherwise “white supremacist” gangsta record. It’s not enough to have things “go in cycles”… (people say that to me all the time about music)
It’s about standing on the shoulders of those that stood before us until we get out from the ditch that hides our humanity!

Our values are so backwards that fathers, mothers, educators, intellectuals & activists don’t fill today’s memes and murals. Instead it’s Tupac, Biggie, NWA and maybe a Jay-Z. The murals you see painted in the ghettos, (I’ve even seen em in the outskirts of Africa!) Memes of these rappers floating around on the Internet and interviews at the end of albums with their “prophetic” words. 3D holograms of them in front of wooing crowds. Supposed martyrs packaged and shrink wrapped in a CD. “Heroes” of the people – celebrated, applauded, jailed and assassinated, with a level of admiration that you’d think they died because of political resistance or activism, but no. It’s simply a petty beef or a record executive hungry for more money.

We have so lost our way, that we celebrate their temporary success – in lieu of our own lasting success.

Behind the riches of every Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, Easy E. or Suge Knight are quiet little Jewish & White guys in polo shirts that are even richer than them.

They play golf and listen to Bach while they count their money. Meanwhile we wallow in these decadent, century old stereotypical, blaxploitation flicks and albums, their kids fly in private jets and vacation in Belize. Our kids suffer just walking to school.

Yes, Straight Outta Compton is very good and yes, these men have immense talent, but Italian mafioso refused to sell crack to their own communities. They insisted on separating their families from their illegal business.

We sell this “crack music” to our little kids and we infest the whole world with it!
It is NOT just entertainment. We are getting killed in real life. We influence Africa, South America and everywhere there’s poor people that need inspiration. It has never been simple entertainment and it has far out reached the block…. it’s racist propaganda. And it hurts the soul of humanity!

And by the way ITS NOT HONEST, it’s not what we see in the hood. It’s an embellishment of it, it’s “reality” on steroids, it’s someones story on performance enhancers! And the things that destroy these communities has become a Satanic virus, packaged and shipped out to every other community to infect those that were previously healthy.

That’s my problem with NWA – not the music (it’s brilliant) NWA endorsed the worse traits of the hood, promoted these traits and to justify their lust for fame they revised their purpose claiming it’s a noble freedom of speech movement.

And many have bought that revisionist history, poured it in our glasses & ummm that kool aid taste sweet! White supremacy is happy, blacks got our thug heroes and the world keeps on turning.
So, sit and eat your popcorn, sip a Coke, enjoy a well-deserved break from lifes stress.
I know I did. I also know I made Ice Cube, Dr. Dre Gary Gray and a host of white dudes a bit richer! I’m alright with that. May God bless em.

But even as I’m entertained by the film, I know that unless we change our dynamics and moral infrastructure as black people, WE really are the entertainment. The silly blacks that can’t realize the difference between an Arnold Schwarzenegger fiction and a propaganda missile aimed at the very demise of our freedom, dignity and culture.

GIL scott was right….The revolution will not be televised it will be screened in a theater near you.
Two thumbs up.”

-Speech Thomas

- See more at: http://beansouptimes.com/arrested-developments-lead-singer-speech-thomas-shares-thoughts-on-straight-outta-compton/#sthash.bozT9UQJ.T5B3sXow.dpuf

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59. "RE: Speech from Arested Development is co-signing me:"
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>The silly blacks that
>can’t realize the difference between


"brothas and sistas keep messin' up...."

  

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