This is a question for people grinding to live off their talent(s) in a creative field

A dream that you worked on for years and one day you woke up & realized you had to reassess your plans? What made you give up and put your lofty ambitions to rest?

If no, more in general - when hustlin and sweating to get where you «need to be» - When do the scales tip from being persistent & determined to just straight up foolish? 28? 45? Never?

Edit: Obviously this depends, nobody's trying to be a struggling rapper in their late 40s... While having dreams of being a music producer in your late 30s aint *AS* bad

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when you're doing/sounding/creating the same as you did the previous year(s) ... you aint going no where.

but if you're constantly progressing in your craft's ability. you owe it to yourself to keep going.

Somehow you're bound to improve if you stay working at your craft for years, at least a little bit by bit. Does that mean you should just keep going forever?

but at the end of life, you want to minimize regret.

someone in your ear telling you need to quit that shit? fuck them.
you think you one-record away from the BIG ONE? go for it.
you aint getting no sleep, cause you up all night making beatz? those are the breaks.

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they will quote Will Smith on how "being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity" n shit.ANY

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... is necessary to a certain degree?

To me it seems like people who DONT have the chops / talent / ability are the ones who quote Will Smith, M Ali and Napoleon Hill the hardest - while the really naturally gifted people are the ones struggling with self doubt and are getting in their own way a whole lot. The latter being the group of people who - at least talent wise - are the ones who actually has a shot.

Rap was for him, and he even said "God wouldn't have blessed me with this talent if I wasn't meant to become a famous Rapper." Yet, he nearly quit college, and he never had ANY success as a rapper. He would do the typical showcases where he had to sell tickets for $10 a piece, and he'd have 7-8 people at each show. And he wasn't horrible, but just didn't have it.

It's really a tough thing to say. I think the issue is that most people I know who aspire to use their "talent" are always in the same damn lane...rapper, singer, actor/actress, maybe producer. For those who dream of being a lawyer, I can't say that's "unrealistic" although it's extremely difficult. With a lot of talent/image based fields, it's not just about how hard you work, or how "lucky" you are, with whatever "luck" means.

So to answer your question, yeah, you basically have to be realistic. But then, hearing Fetty Wap, Bobby Shmurda and Trinidad James say that they STARTED rapping within the same damn year of making the biggest hits of the last few years...makes me wonder why folks will go 15 years thinking they'll still make it.

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Is only laughable if he aint make it. Thats some shit early era Kanye would say and people would find it motivational cos he eventually had the success to back the pretentious crazy talk all the way up.

How does the saying go? People will kill you over time with tiny little phrases like 'be realistic'. Lol

But yea there's definitely levels to it

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he definitely didn't have any "it" quality to him at alllll...it was all just bland, rip off Field Mob style rap that wasn't even enough personality to grab you. But yeah, if Kanye had said it, it would be monumental

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I seriously doubt they're grinding and studying rap or singing or whatever 5-10 hours a day for years. I mean if someone was to do that and dedicate their life to it, they might not become a pop star like fetty wop or Ciara, but they could probably make money producing, ghost writing being a session musician, back up singer, part of a broadway cast etc. Plenty of people do it and happily because they love music so much and can't imagine doing anything else and it's not about the fame.

YES.

reach a certain level of success in order to be successful. Like, if they aim to be Halle Berry, anything short of being a star in a Top 5 grossing film is a failure to them. But it's true, most of them don't put in the work they really need to put in.

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Unless you got mouths to feed and real responsibility you should be taking care of.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson


"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're

honest assessment.

i'd be glad to let you know if you're wasting your time or not.

all this 'hypothetical posting' aint gonna help nobody understand shit.

It should be about enjoying what you do. The question is if someone told you you will name achieve fame or fortune from your art, would you still do it?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson


"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're

i figured if he wanted to just have fun doing whatever, he wouldn't even be this torn enough to make a post about it.

his dream, it seems, is to become successful at it. right?

Its not so much a DONT GIVE UP type question, I'm just curious as to when and why people threw in the towel along the(ir) way.

I know I'm talented enough, and tbh I might care a bit too much about quality - which is a good thing on one side, while it also fucks with you and your enjoyment of creating it cos ur own product rarely / never live up to your idea of «good enough».

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>much about quality - which is a good thing on one side, while
>it also fucks with you and your enjoyment of creating it cos
>ur own product rarely / never live up to your idea of «good
>enough».
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Or pretty or smart etc

Yea, I thinks its fair to say I am talented. And this is not a «God gave me all this talent it would be a sin to let it go to waste!» thing, but yeah I'm definitely talented ENOUGH. I've been given many enough opportunities along the way and a few people I really look up to and respect have told me this and I believe them, kinda wish I'd believe em more at times (peace 2 all my self-doubting, struggling artist brothers & sisters out chea). Not being arrogant I just put it out there in response to the previous poster, I just wanted to make it clear I wasn't in this post looking for sympathy daps or anything

What does Malcolm glad well call it? The 10000 hour rule? Basic premise is people who succeed are generally doing something 5-10 for hours a day for a decade or more.

I had no idea about this. But pro baseball umpires literally have to do 10 years in the minor league before they get to the majors. They ump basically every day from February (preseason) to October or November. Then like 1% make the cut. Once they do they make 6 figures. But few will stick it out making 20-30k for 10yrs getting in the 10000 hours.

Anyway a lot of success is about being the one who's willing to grind it out. I've met plenty of people who make a living as fine artists. It's not so much talent but really hard work. A lot of them keep regular hours and are grinding 7/8/9/10 hrs and really treat it like a business and most have as much or more formal training as lawyers.

Great answer.

dude

...shit in the the every day..."

...gotta make that leap... but feel like I'm waiting on someone to yell, "Jump!"

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Please jump.

Those lil currents of «holy shit I really need to step my focus / game up» should be utilized and taken advantage of to THE FULLEST.

give up on your dreams

if you give up, just put a gun to the doom,
Because life is long.

If you don't wannabe a 40 year old rapper,
Become a ghostwriter or something similar
that gives you that fire

Or, «co-sign» for my heathens

realistic.

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Is definitely gonna change a few things lol

once you're responsible for another life, it isn't solely about you any more...need to put the kid's needs in front of your own.

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

and it really, really hit that it was not ever going to happen.

not making it past the first cut on my 8th grade team really should've been a heads up, looking back, but you know
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

or, like 90% of the shots you do take, in my case.

#BallisLife

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

up until 30?

Or was it like a side-dream that you figured you could pick up at a later time and suddenly one day it hit you that the ship had sailed?

but if you are smart you will adjust that bitch over time.

my issue is I never had ONE dream.

I have pretty much done everything I dreamed of besides becoming rich.

and I will never give that dream up, lol...

right now I'm dreaming about starting my own business and I'm getting the ball rolling.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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