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SoWhat
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"Jazmine Sullivan's 'Mascara' appreciation."


  

          

have you heard it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2nSh7QraY

i heard it for the 2nd time this weekend and i fell in strong like w/it.

here go the lyrics:

"Mascara"

Yeah my hair, and my ass fake, but so what!
I get my rent payed with it, and my tits get me trips to places I can't pronounce right
He said he'd keep it coming, if I keep my body tight

And them bitches stay mad 'cause I'm living the life
‘Cause I'm living the life, oh
Most people think I'm shallow
‘Cause I'm always dressed like I'm going out to the club,
But I gotta keep up 'cause there's new chicks poppin' up every day
And they want the same things

So I never leave the house without make-up on,
I keep mascara in my pocket if I'm running to the market
‘Cause you never know who's watching you
So I got to stay on, I got to stay on
I got to stay on, I got to stay on
Said I got to stay on!

No, I ain't got a job but, so what!
I don't need it when I'm getting everything that I want, and everything that I ask for
I wear that freakum dress for daddy then he give me more

And them bitches stay mad 'cause they working so hard
While I'm working so smart, oh
It's a small price to pay when you're
living this good and he keep me in the hills,
and he kept me out the hood
‘Cause there's new chicks poppin' up
every day and they want the same things

So I never leave the house without make-up on,
I keep mascara in my pocket if I'm running to the market
‘Cause you never know who's watching you
So I got to stay on, I got to stay on
I got to stay on, I got to stay on
Said I got to stay on!

Now, I know why you're looking at me like that
It ain't attractive when you're looking at me like that,
Girl, don't be mad 'cause while you're
cooking dinner for your broke nigga
You could be in the gym working
on your figure like me. So...

Don't I deserve to be privileged?
Don't I deserve to get the very best?
‘Cause it ain't easy being this fine all the time,
‘Cause if it was, then we all could do it
But we can't now no
So bitch don't kill my vibe, don't be
mad cause you coach class and I'm in that G5.
Beautiful girls run the whole world,
So I got to stay on!

So I never leave the house without make-up on,
I keep mascara in my pocket if I'm running to the market
‘Cause you never know who's watching you
So I got to stay on, I got to stay on
I got to stay on, I got to stay on
Said I got to stay on!

Oh...
Yeah, she drive the dope boys crazy
She knows, that all them hoes so jealous
'Cause that ass, will make a man leave home, uh
That's why she keeps her mascara on.

fuck you.

  

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was great til it came on with the kids in the car
Jun 29th 2015
1
what was the problem?
Jun 29th 2015
2
Really like those lyrics.
Jun 29th 2015
3
Me too
Jun 29th 2015
4
      real talk, it's changed my opinion on one woman in particular.
Jun 29th 2015
5
I love that song
Jun 29th 2015
6
Agreed
Jun 29th 2015
7
It's not only the lack of judgement, but the REALNESS of it.
Jun 29th 2015
8
      Definitely, like, she jumped into that line of thinking
Jun 29th 2015
10
Indeed.
Jun 29th 2015
9
Slept on album, bright start in the darkness
Jun 29th 2015
11
Brand New is excellent too.
Jun 29th 2015
12
pure shite. can't even believe y'all up in here rockin' w/ it too.
Jun 29th 2015
13
care to expound, or should we take
Jun 30th 2015
15
are you talking about the artistry or the message?
Jun 30th 2015
34
i had to play it twice to make sure that i heard it right
Jun 29th 2015
14
R&B album of the year. She should be getting more attention.
Jun 30th 2015
16
why do you think she doesnt? the album is great
Jun 30th 2015
21
      because she isn't white. If Adele made the same record it would do 10x
Jun 30th 2015
39
           RE: because she isn't white. If Adele made the same record it would do ...
Jun 30th 2015
51
lub her + nem syrupy vocals. album slappin. live vers. is een better.
Jun 30th 2015
17
Live version though. Gives me chills:
Jun 30th 2015
18
YES! I was singing that this morning
Jun 30th 2015
19
LOL @ the LHH soundtrack.
Jun 30th 2015
22
i kept waiting for the moral of the story--
Jun 30th 2015
20
thank you, Bloo. I was gonna respond to #15 but you summed it--
Jun 30th 2015
23
im just trying to understand--
Jun 30th 2015
24
      i don't think you're trying to understand
Jun 30th 2015
25
      RE: i don't think you're trying to understand
Jun 30th 2015
26
           to say what i said.
Jun 30th 2015
27
           lol
Jun 30th 2015
31
      RE: im just trying to understand--
Jun 30th 2015
32
           RE: im just trying to understand--
Jun 30th 2015
36
                well at least you're intellectually consistent.
Jun 30th 2015
37
The point of the song, or really the album, wasn't morality.
Jun 30th 2015
28
ah ok--
Jun 30th 2015
29
Exactly!
Jun 30th 2015
30
      Word. Alotta song throughout history have done this.
Jun 30th 2015
43
Exactly. It's all about perspective. Not right or wrong.
Jun 30th 2015
41
Why does it NEED a moral?
Jun 30th 2015
33
      well cause i would hope young women--
Jun 30th 2015
35
           some will, some won't.
Jun 30th 2015
38
           im not demeaning sex work--
Jun 30th 2015
40
                Ugh. Shut up.
Jun 30th 2015
42
                Again, WHY is it so important she call herself a hoe?
Jun 30th 2015
49
                     b/c women like the protagonist in this song must be dehumanized.
Jun 30th 2015
50
                          ah man, the jig is up!
Jun 30th 2015
52
           Reply #43. Do you feel like this about those songs?
Jun 30th 2015
44
                of course none of those things--
Jun 30th 2015
45
                     Ok, just don't remember you in posts about such songs.
Jun 30th 2015
46
really strong song off a really nice album
Jun 30th 2015
47
great song, unfortunately for me I seriously played it out when it dropp...
Jun 30th 2015
48

esb225
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1. "was great til it came on with the kids in the car "
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I got a good life man

  

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2. "what was the problem?"
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fuck you.

  

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3. "Really like those lyrics."
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4. "Me too"
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I was struck when I paid attention. And I understood some of the women in my life a bit better.

fuck you.

  

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5. "real talk, it's changed my opinion on one woman in particular."
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6. "I love that song"
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and I love how sincerely she delivered the lyrics. No judgement, just a glimpse into that frame of thought. Her songwriting on that album, as a whole, was pretty strong.

http://soundcloud.com/forestbrooks

  

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7. "Agreed"
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fuck you.

  

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8. "It's not only the lack of judgement, but the REALNESS of it."
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I really appreciate it.

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10. "Definitely, like, she jumped into that line of thinking"
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and presented an understandable rationale for what the chicks who live like that move the way they do. Humanizing is the best way I can describe it.

http://soundcloud.com/forestbrooks

  

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9. "Indeed."
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I ride for the whole album.

  

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11. "Slept on album, bright start in the darkness"
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that is r and b

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12. "Brand New is excellent too."
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13. "pure shite. can't even believe y'all up in here rockin' w/ it too."
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and i'll save you snarksters the trouble, here:

"^^^ broke nigga"

there you go.

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15. "care to expound, or should we take"
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your little assed opinion? Shitty? Seems like it went over your head, player

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34. "are you talking about the artistry or the message?"
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14. "i had to play it twice to make sure that i heard it right"
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i bought the cd because of "let it burn" but that whole cd is dope as hell. i really like #HoodLove though

  

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16. "R&B album of the year. She should be getting more attention."
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21. "why do you think she doesnt? the album is great"
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39. "because she isn't white. If Adele made the same record it would do 10x"
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the numbers.

Jazmine doesn't have much of an image, and considering today's climate especially, the marketing just isn't there.

She's doing okay for herself. She just deserves more.

And it angers me.

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51. "RE: because she isn't white. If Adele made the same record it would do ..."
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>the numbers.
>
>Jazmine doesn't have much of an image, and considering today's
>climate especially, the marketing just isn't there.
>
>She's doing okay for herself. She just deserves more.
>
>And it angers me.

I have said this to so many people. It got strong critical reviews though.

  

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17. "lub her + nem syrupy vocals. album slappin. live vers. is een better. "
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Tue Jun-30-15 08:14 AM by 2.tears.in.a.bucket

  

          

.

♚♚♚♚

#BYLUG >>> https://goo.gl/1ooFp6

♚♚♚♚

screamin' mothafuck a 12 /
bitches ain't shit /
cops ain't neither /
they huntin' my people /

- i. rashad

♚♚♚♚

  

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18. "Live version though. Gives me chills:"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoZri7Y_3kA

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19. "YES! I was singing that this morning "
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Jazmine wrote the Love & Hip Hop Soundtrack... I love it


that and Hood Love




  

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22. "LOL @ the LHH soundtrack."
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but yes.

fuck you.

  

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20. "i kept waiting for the moral of the story--"
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the teachable moment, if you will

but this just seems like the celebration of hoe'ing

  

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23. "thank you, Bloo. I was gonna respond to #15 but you summed it--"
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up pretty nicely.

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24. "im just trying to understand--"
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is it ok to call a chick that behaves like that a hoe?

if not, why?

  

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25. "i don't think you're trying to understand"
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and i'm not interested in helping you.

fuck you.

  

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26. "RE: i don't think you're trying to understand"
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>and i'm not interested in helping you.

then why'd you reply to me?

  

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27. "to say what i said."
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fuck you.

  

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31. "lol"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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32. "RE: im just trying to understand--"
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Is it ok to call a man who behaves like (insert stereotype) a nigga?

if not - why not?

You might want to look into WHY you want/need to call her one.

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36. "RE: im just trying to understand--"
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>Is it ok to call a man who behaves like (insert stereotype) a
>nigga?

sure

or thug, goon.... or even ruffian if you're feeling aristocratic

  

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37. "well at least you're intellectually consistent."
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I completely disagree, tho.

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28. "The point of the song, or really the album, wasn't morality."
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It was a snapshot of all these characters and their thought processes. Songs like Mascara, Brand New and #HoodLove are just her jumping into minds of these characters and expressing how they think. No more, no less.

http://soundcloud.com/forestbrooks

  

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29. "ah ok--"
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she's a different character in each song?

thats kinda dope

  

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30. "Exactly!"
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I think she said "Forever Don't Last" and "Masterpiece" were the most personal. The rest of the album was pretty much just her exploring different characters and writing from their perspectives. That, to me, is what's humanizing. I'll probably never agree with the character from Mascara, but the women who live like that are human and there is a thought process behind what they do. So, it's cool to hear that perspective expressed...to me, at least.

http://soundcloud.com/forestbrooks

  

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43. "Word. Alotta song throughout history have done this."
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Van Halen's "Runnin With The Devil" and Christopher Cross' "Ride Like The Wind" immediately came to mind.
Jimi's "Hey Joe" even.

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41. "Exactly. It's all about perspective. Not right or wrong."
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33. "Why does it NEED a moral?"
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Also, a few of us in here learned some shit, therefore - the whole song is a teachable moment - you may not like what it's teaching, but that don't mean there ain't a lesson.

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bloocollar
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35. "well cause i would hope young women--"
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would want to be more than that

being a hoe isnt something to aspire to

mainly because it depreciates the older a chick gets

  

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38. "some will, some won't."
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Also, Bartending doesn't particularly age well. Neither does waitressing, by and large, or police/fire/emt work.

Where's the outrage for those professions?

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40. "im not demeaning sex work--"
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especially when its an honest transaction

i wouldnt want any one in my family to do it but i recognize thats the influence of society's values

the chick described in the song though wouldn't classify herself as a hoe

chicks like that are first and foremost delusional

  

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42. "Ugh. Shut up."
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Just...ugh.

  

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49. "Again, WHY is it so important she call herself a hoe?"
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50. "b/c women like the protagonist in this song must be dehumanized."
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it's bothersome that the songwriter explores this woman's world and the woman's perspective on it w/o judgment b/c tramps like this must be kept in their place or else other women or young girls might not get the message that this woman is a hoe and not human. it doesn't matter that the song doesn't encourage anyone to join this woman nor does it praise this woman it merely presents her and her viewpoint w/o judgment - hoes MUST BE derided at every opportunity. if we can't cast stones at hoes then the world might fall apart.

fuck you.

  

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52. "ah man, the jig is up!"
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Damn, SoWhat!

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44. "Reply #43. Do you feel like this about those songs?"
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Being a killer on the run isn't something to aspire to.
How about being a drug dealer, cap peeler, etc.?
8 Ball & MJG came out talkin about pimpin and pushing a woman's head into the wall "until I hear that crackin sound".
Was that something to aspire to?
Tyler and OF was rappin bout rape.
Why does Jazmine get the judgment tho?

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45. "of course none of those things--"
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should be aspired to

and she's being judged because this post was about her song

  

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46. "Ok, just don't remember you in posts about such songs."
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Never really known you to have a problem with male whoring either.
Gonna be interesting to see in the future.


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47. "really strong song off a really nice album"
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...i like how she went IN on each song....i had "Mascara" on repeat for awhile though....

"yes, sometimes my rhymes are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hos should know i'm tryin to correct it"- hiphopopotamus

  

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48. "great song, unfortunately for me I seriously played it out when it dropp..."
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Months ago. Like I listened to so much back then that I kinda skip it now. Great sounding song and like others said I like that she wasn't judgy with it ( at this Q and A I went to with her here she stated it was inspired by looking at certain women on Instagram and just thinking how much goes into the upkeep) and yes she killed/kills it live

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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