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GameTheory
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"Whats up with religious people saying beastiality is next or something?"


          

Do ya'll really fear this?

I mean, its not like other species can consent or anything so you're effectively telling on yourselves at that point.

  

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Did the Japanese ape not prove them right!?!?!!!!
Jun 29th 2015
1
it's the talking point they've been given
Jun 29th 2015
2
it's really sad to see
Jun 29th 2015
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yo dog im about to fuck bitches and get money as a dog breeder.
Jun 29th 2015
4
2 birds / 1 stone - shocks (idiots) listenr + strips lgbt's of humanity
Jun 29th 2015
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irrational fear or deep secret desire
Jun 29th 2015
6
Morons too stubborn to take their L
Jun 29th 2015
7
Whats up with crazy religious people saying beastiality is next or somet...
Jun 29th 2015
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Religion is inherently crazy. You're being redundant
Jun 29th 2015
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      there are certainly degrees of crazy. you're somewhere on
Jun 30th 2015
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I'd think incestuous marriages would be the smarter argument.
Jun 29th 2015
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But there is a difference though
Jun 29th 2015
they're practically already legal
Jun 29th 2015
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Does nature consent to human animal sex?
Jun 29th 2015
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never change you psycho, I love you
Jun 29th 2015
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do you happen to have Anna Nicole Smith type proportions?
Jun 29th 2015
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ok, this cracked me the fuck up lmao
Jun 30th 2015
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Your dog can't consent. Period.
Jun 29th 2015
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So nature consents?
Jun 29th 2015
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      WTF are you even saying? A dog can't say "fuck me"
Jun 29th 2015
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           I am asking if nature consents to human and animal sex
Jun 29th 2015
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                Does nature consent to resurrection, Lestat?
Jun 29th 2015
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                Derp much?
Jun 29th 2015
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                     lol thats what i thought
Jun 29th 2015
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                          That's impossible as you do not think.
Jun 29th 2015
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                I LITERALLY don't think you're speaking english
Jun 29th 2015
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                That sounds like a 'No' is it?
Jun 29th 2015
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                     Nature doesn't "consent" to anything. Nature doesn't care.
Jun 30th 2015
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                          I'm not assigning intelligence to nature however it is greater than you
Jun 30th 2015
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                               Lmao
Jun 30th 2015
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                yes, nature does consent...it didn't stop dick from entering orifice...
Jun 30th 2015
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                     The act of penetration with an animal is useless, futile, wasteful, etc.
Jun 30th 2015
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                          Depends on the species.
Jul 02nd 2015
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                               I mentioned all that cross species stuff and no ape is out there
Jul 02nd 2015
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Why do ppl think that same gender loving ppl
Jun 29th 2015
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?? we're talking about humans and animals
Jun 29th 2015
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      I was responding to #10
Jun 29th 2015
           Ah well I wouldn't know. I'm not against gay people being together
Jun 29th 2015
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LOL at this simple & weak minded reasoning
Jun 29th 2015
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Get those chromosomes checked out-- you're short a few
Jun 29th 2015
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      LOL But you said this, Black Jesus
Jun 29th 2015
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           Why should I answer your questions?
Jun 29th 2015
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                answered what, why Ted is making you think about your orientation?
Jun 29th 2015
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                     you probably think Ashanti is just a really good singer
Jun 29th 2015
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                          You probably think Jesus is real & black lol. even I can't beat that lol
Jun 29th 2015
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                               Check mate was a couple moves back.
Jun 29th 2015
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next negro men will be dancing with white women on tv!
Jun 29th 2015
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      atillah doesn't understand black or racist references, like at all lol
Jun 29th 2015
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      RE: next negro men will be dancing with white women on tv!
Jun 29th 2015
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You are asking people who are unreasonable to be reasonable
Jun 29th 2015
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What religious people are you around that's saying this??...
Jun 29th 2015
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Many of my relatives Muslime and Christian
Jun 29th 2015
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Then they're some nuts, no disrespect
Jun 29th 2015
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unfortunately those nuts
Jun 29th 2015
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How is Fido going to sign a marriage contract?
Jul 02nd 2015
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vver heard of this new shit called twitter??
Jun 29th 2015
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because they eat da poo poo
Jun 29th 2015
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^^^^^^
Jun 29th 2015
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better questions why give their idiocy more attention? Aka who GAF
Jun 29th 2015
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Would you want to live I a world where that is considered normal?
Jun 29th 2015
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      What does that have to do with gay marriage??
Jul 02nd 2015
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           Don't care either way. I know where this train is headed.
Jul 02nd 2015
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RE: Whats up with religious people saying beastiality is next or somethi...
Jun 29th 2015
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Slippery slope is basically the conservative argument against everything...
Jun 29th 2015
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yeah it's not a thing humans are prone to at all
Jun 30th 2015
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      im sure this all made sense in your head
Jul 03rd 2015
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           Well now that the obvious has been stated-- what parts are off?
Jul 03rd 2015
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                you're doing exactly what i pointed out, but just in a more batshit way
Jul 03rd 2015
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                     Hey assuming the outcome of an exchange is my move.
Jul 03rd 2015
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ain't nobody studyin them.
Jun 29th 2015
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I saw a lady raped by a dolphin...
Jun 29th 2015
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She shouldn't have been dressed like Ariel
Jun 29th 2015
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      Hahahaha
Jun 29th 2015
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NO, but there are people that do.
Jun 29th 2015
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There's laws on the book to prevent it for a reason. Think about that
Jun 29th 2015
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Don't you get it yet?
Jun 30th 2015
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Say that shit Ted
Jun 30th 2015
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whoa!
Jun 30th 2015
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oh god.
Jun 30th 2015
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*searches frantically for the like button*
Jun 30th 2015
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Everything that was stated has been stated
Jun 30th 2015
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RE: Everything that was stated has been stated
Jun 30th 2015
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      Gotcha-- my misunderstanding.
Jul 01st 2015
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<3
Jul 01st 2015
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#A!
Jul 04th 2015
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My best guess is
Jun 30th 2015
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back when i was a xtian i was VERY bothered by the cynicism
Jun 30th 2015
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Yep
Jul 01st 2015
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because when people feel threatened
Jun 30th 2015
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The best thing about human nature is that it never changes
Jun 30th 2015
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^^says the guy who thinks jesus is lenny kravitz
Jun 30th 2015
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      Thanks Zaire
Jul 01st 2015
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           lol im not, so save the passive aggressive shit for Christian Mingle
Jul 02nd 2015
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I blame Dave
Jun 30th 2015
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Mo' monkey pussy fo' me! All i fucks is chimps and orangatangsssss
Jul 02nd 2015
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It may not be next, but it's still a spade that can be played
Jul 01st 2015
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Totally agree. And they say believers are too literal.
Jul 01st 2015
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Why?
Jul 02nd 2015
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      The Answer: Because of Love. And they can. They're attracted to Animals
Jul 02nd 2015
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           That's not what I asked.
Jul 02nd 2015
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                I gave you an answer. How about Human Depravity.
Jul 02nd 2015
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                     You're conveniently forgetting about consent.
Jul 03rd 2015
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                          Love for something require consent.
Jul 03rd 2015
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                               Human sex involves consent from BOTH sides.
Jul 03rd 2015
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                               That can be redefined . See the SCOTUSi
Jul 03rd 2015
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                               Can you expand on that?
Jul 06th 2015
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                               Perhaps that's what love is to him
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                    FYI, you don't sign a marriage contract to get married.
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                         Oh. It's different over there. My bad
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                              Well, I tried. You can keep the Backhanded Sarcasm.
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                                   When you learn to love the truth you'll appreciate its necessity
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                                        Dude, save all of the extra like you are above it all with me.
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                                             Perhaps that's your motivation when you post
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                                                  Praying for you.
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                                                       Start with yourself.
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                                                            You should start with yourself.
Jul 04th 2015
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                                                                                 I do start with myself.
Jul 04th 2015
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                                                                                      Praying for you.
Jul 04th 2015
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                                                                                      I see that confusion is your hashtag.
Jul 04th 2015
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                                                                                      Prayer from hate isn't the way to go Jerome
Jul 04th 2015
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                                                                                      Save the justification and get rigth with Jesus.
Jul 05th 2015
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                                                                                      Poor, sweet Jerome
Jul 05th 2015
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                                                                                      ^^ Proof of non Christian ways.
Jul 05th 2015
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                                                                                      You see my desire to help you as non-Christian
Jul 05th 2015
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                               Wrong again. Dumbass. CONSENT requires ALL PARTIES
Jul 03rd 2015
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                                    Love for something doesn't require consent.
Jul 03rd 2015
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Well... http://i.imgur.com/hwM778J.jpg
Jul 02nd 2015
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if they had the ability to apply logic they wouldn't be christians
Jul 03rd 2015
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So this is Christian thing? I'm just asking because the OP -
Jul 03rd 2015
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this dude cant help himself
Jul 03rd 2015
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Jesus Loves you.
Jul 03rd 2015
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      you made ANOTHER post questioning transgendered people
Jul 03rd 2015
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           They won't get it until years later
Jul 03rd 2015
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           I'm also sick and tired of the nonsense
Jul 03rd 2015
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                the pedophilia angle is also lamely trotted out
Jul 04th 2015
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           Why are you so unhappy and manic?
Jul 04th 2015
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                Jesus loves you. Praying for you.
Jul 05th 2015
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                     Yes, Jesus does love me. But you should stop lying.
Jul 05th 2015
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                          Accusations without proof aren't productive Jerome
Jul 05th 2015
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                          Praying for you.
Jul 05th 2015
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Maurice Bessinger types hate gays instead of Blacks now
Jul 04th 2015
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Exactly this.
Jul 06th 2015
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      Those preachers are into their short term earthly reward
Jul 06th 2015
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I just assume they like to fuck goats or something
Jul 04th 2015
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yep, they Larry Craig their shit
Jul 04th 2015
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Boogie Stimuli
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1. "Did the Japanese ape not prove them right!?!?!!!!"
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We're doomed!

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2. "it's the talking point they've been given"
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they're not supposed to think about it

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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3. "it's really sad to see"
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4. "yo dog im about to fuck bitches and get money as a dog breeder. "
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5. "2 birds / 1 stone - shocks (idiots) listenr + strips lgbt's of humanity"
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zaire
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6. "irrational fear or deep secret desire"
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i mean deep secret desire for good ol fashion non christian, sodom/gomorrah sex, not beastiality



well maybe


nevermind

  

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7. "Morons too stubborn to take their L "
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8. "Whats up with crazy religious people saying beastiality is next or somet..."
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Fixed it for you

  

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GameTheory
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15. "Religion is inherently crazy. You're being redundant"
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Lets be honest...you're no less crazy than they are.

  

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60. "there are certainly degrees of crazy. you're somewhere on "
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that spectrum as well.

  

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9. "I'd think incestuous marriages would be the smarter argument."
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Mon Jun-29-15 01:21 PM by Monkey Genius

  

          

'Two consenting adults,' etc.

No real argument against it besides, 'ew!' and, 'They shouldn't have children.'

Which was pretty much the old argument against gay marriages.

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"But there is a difference though"


  

          

>'Two consenting adults,' etc.
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>No real argument against it besides, 'ew!' and, 'They
>shouldn't have children.'
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>Which was pretty much the old argument against gay marriages.
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relatives shouldn't have children together for real though.


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13. "they're practically already legal"
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and the rules vary widely based on where you are

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10. "Does nature consent to human animal sex?"
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If it did then humans and animals would produce offspring correct?

This does not happen though therefore it can be argued that nature does not consent can it not?

Now that that's out of the way. I'm not sure whose "fearing" it as it's been around as long as just about anything else humans do with their bodies that gets them into trouble. It's the public acceptance of it that will come to pass as people are already doing it and I suspect some of them are over in LA right now turning down any movie that would show black people in a state of progress as opposed to struggling in the past and or present.

How is it done? By slowly getting people comfortable with it through media 'programming'. Ted, Bojack Horseman, Gun With Occasional Music, Family Guy, The Man Show, etc. All of these have portrayed human animal sexual relations as humorous and or normal, but not repulsive.

Lastly as it was in the beginning so shall it be in the end. We humans are masters of sliding down the slippery slope.

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12. "never change you psycho, I love you"
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I'd bang you even if you were an animal

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22. "do you happen to have Anna Nicole Smith type proportions? "
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Cuz it's on if that's the case.

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58. "ok, this cracked me the fuck up lmao"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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GameTheory
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17. "Your dog can't consent. Period."
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So I don't care if the "parts fit" ...its not a viable argument.

  

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19. "So nature consents? "
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Mon Jun-29-15 01:43 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

I'm assuming you don't believe in anything greater than yourself that's capable of sentient thought so we'll just say nature, evolution, the natural order, etc.

And is an animal not one of natures creations?

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27. "WTF are you even saying? A dog can't say "fuck me" "
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Stop speaking in gibberish

  

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29. "I am asking if nature consents to human and animal sex"
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It's a yes or no question. I'm not sure where the confusion lies. Nature, evolution, the natural order, or whatever you want to call it is responsible for the animal's existence as it is for ours correct?

Therefore based on the fact that humans and animals can not create offspring does this mean that "nature" does or does not consent to the the act?

The reasoning being that if nature consented then it would be biologically possible for there to be another creature produced as a result.

I can't make it any simpler.

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33. "Does nature consent to resurrection, Lestat?"
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cuz if it doesn't your argument is very childlike, as usual


but go ahead and explain why nature allows for one ridiculous act such as bringing a guy back to life, but not to people sticking they dick into any and everything, like many of your christian brethren like to preach about but get caught for lol

  

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43. "Derp much?"
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You'd have answered the question by now if you had anything resembling cognitive thought.

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45. "lol thats what i thought"
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you & case and y'alls personal thoughts are always revealed thru cowardice


its why i love this place and only fuck with y'all

  

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47. "That's impossible as you do not think."
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53. "I LITERALLY don't think you're speaking english"
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The only reasons we can't mate is due to protein coatings and enzymatic pairings in our gametes. Thats it.

Nature doesn't have a "goal" in mind...theres only things that work and things that don't work and things that "kinda" work.

  

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55. "That sounds like a 'No' is it? "
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I mean you're doing all this typing for what really is a simple question.

If nature allowed for sex between humans and animals to produce offspring then it could be argued that nature allows or consents to the act.

That however is not the case so is it fair to say nature does not consent?

We are looking to nature because it's greater than the animal and if one does not believe in any sort of creator then nature is responsible for said animal. One could maybe even argue does the animal's body (proteins, enzymes, etc.) consent since the animal itself can not.

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66. "Nature doesn't "consent" to anything. Nature doesn't care. "
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Nature isn't some "thinking" entity.

its all chemicals.

The only reasons humans and dogs can't create kids is because proteins don't have the right spatial confirmation to allow it.

  

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68. "I'm not assigning intelligence to nature however it is greater than you"
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Is it not? Is it not a force we must adhere to more often than not?

How about does nature allow for it? If nature allowed for it that would mean it was ok to do right? However nature does not allow for it beyond the act of intercourse which is in a sense a violation due to the fact that absolutely nothing productive can come from the union of man and beast.

I don't really have a dog in this fight. The only point I'm making is that our natural environment does not sanction it therefore why should we? If you support it than by all means do you.


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76. "Lmao"
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>
>I don't really have a dog in this fight.
>
>

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59. "yes, nature does consent...it didn't stop dick from entering orifice..."
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in fact...i almost never does lol

not to mention the fact that cross-breeding is a thing that happens...it's how some species exist in the first place

if offspring is the determining factor of "nature's consent"

(sounds like a hippy rape kit btw)

then most human sex isn't consented to by nature

toss that whole fuckery of thought in the trash or keep that crazy locked up

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69. "The act of penetration with an animal is useless, futile, wasteful, etc."
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>not to mention the fact that cross-breeding is a thing that
>happens...it's how some species exist in the first place

Some like species correct? I.e. Horse and Donkey, Tiger and Lion, etc.

>
>if offspring is the determining factor of "nature's consent"
>
>(sounds like a hippy rape kit btw)

I Wouldn't know much about either subject.

>
>then most human sex isn't consented to by nature

That is a terrible jump in logic. The fact that humans may not be able to have children does not equal humans are not supposed to have children.

>toss that whole fuckery of thought in the trash or keep that
>crazy locked up

I'll do that if you stop by PetSmart on the way home since that makes just about as much sense.

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85. "Depends on the species."
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I'm not aware of anything else humans can breed with, but who the fuck knows... there might be an ape out there.

But Lions and Tigers can interbreed.
Donkeys, Ponies, Zebras and Horses can interbreed.
Cows and Yaks
Sheep and Goats (these even belong to different genera)

We cross breed plants ALL THE TIME.

So yeah, if you want to go down this route, nature absolutely consents to beastiality.

But that has *fuck all* to do with humans marrying humans unless you're fucked in the head.

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94. "I mentioned all that cross species stuff and no ape is out there"
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and personally I don't believe we should be trying to find it if it does in fact exist. Just-- no.

What do humans and humans have to do with humans and animals? Nothing-- you are correct.

The argument it seems breaks down along two lines those who view male to male sex as normal and those that don't.

Those who see it as normal will likely see little connection to beastiality.

Those who see it as abnormal are drawing what they believe to be a moral (or lack thereof) connection between both acts. To this group sex with animals is as depraved as men having sex with men in their minds and this mindset is often if not always tied to 'religion' for lack of a better word.

Why man to man and not woman to woman? Because a man can physically play the role of a woman i.e. receive pleasure via penetration whereas a woman can not truly play the mans role. A man can actually lay down and get fucked as if he were a woman. A woman can not penetrate a woman as if she were a man. The woman making finger puppets is in no way getting pleasure from her fingers. Make sense?

They say it's next or among the things that are next because public acceptance of male to male sex to them is a sign of an overall decrease in moral fiber within society. As that fiber weakens more depraved acts will become accepted.

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20. "Why do ppl think that same gender loving ppl"
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All of a sudden cannot reproduce.

You need sperm and ovum..period.



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23. "?? we're talking about humans and animals"
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not humans and humans.

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"I was responding to #10"


          

I was wondering why people who are against gay marriage say its because two same gender people can NOT reproduce. Does the ability to procreate magically disappear if one is LGBTQ.

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46. "Ah well I wouldn't know. I'm not against gay people being together"
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as a married couple.

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25. "LOL at this simple & weak minded reasoning"
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people been fuckin animals since forever sweetheart, even in your pathetic little cult lol


the media aint makin nobody fuck more/less animals, thats a pretty weak view you championin slick



Ted is part of the conspiracy??? lol that tinfoil hat is fittin a little too tight around feeble little noodle of yours

  

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26. "Get those chromosomes checked out-- you're short a few"
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>people been fuckin animals since forever sweetheart, even in
>your pathetic little cult lol

I said this already you R.I.F. dropout.


>the media aint makin nobody fuck more/less animals, thats a
>pretty weak view you championin slick

I didn't say that it was making anyone do anything. It's presenting something as comfortable and benign. Once you get into your winter years you'll have probably (hopefully) gotten your GED by then so come back and read what I posted after that. The post should still be there then.


>Ted is part of the conspiracy??? lol that tinfoil hat is
>fittin a little too tight around feeble little noodle of yours

No one said a conspiracy was in effect. But I'll let you cook you sorry excuse for anything sentient and capable of rational thought. And speaking of cooking the way one cooks frogs is to slowly turn up the heat over time-- this way the frog does not jump out of the water and dies comfortably.

That metaphor is likely lost on your feeble, dim witted, mind capable of nothing more than satisfying your need for food and sex, but perhaps there is someone out there who will get it.

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28. "LOL But you said this, Black Jesus"
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>How is it done? By slowly getting people comfortable with it
>through media 'programming'. Ted, Bojack Horseman, Gun With
>Occasional Music, Family Guy, The Man Show, etc. All of these
>have portrayed human animal sexual relations as humorous and
>or normal, but not repulsive.



and you feel like this is an intelligent stance on the matter??


like for real, read that out loud and try not to laugh



wait a minute, you believe you're gonna meet a black man called the king of jews by an apple tree, you'll believe anything lol


just was checkin to see if you would defend this shit and you did lol

  

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31. "Why should I answer your questions?"
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You haven't answered my one. Probably due to those aforementioned* missing chromosomes.

So stop wasting our time and go back to sucking on your 6th webbed toe.

*Aforementioned means said before or previously.

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32. "answered what, why Ted is making you think about your orientation?"
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only you can answer that sweetheart, not the media



but you can't even answer if you really think what you said is actually intelligible, which is telling



yeah, my 6th grade education lol. This coming from a nigga that follows white oppressions most symbolic book of slavery towards black people. you sure got me with that one lol

  

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41. "you probably think Ashanti is just a really good singer "
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That Zimbabwe is how to get to a location of some sort

That Dogon is a missing canine

And that Zaire is just a cool sounding name.

So spare me these paltry attempts at portraying yourself as knowledgeable of anything African. Let alone anything at all.

Class dismissed Nimrod.

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44. "You probably think Jesus is real & black lol. even I can't beat that lol"
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ashanti?


the movie ted?



thats all you can do to defend your faith?


no wonder you can't even get christian mingle pussy, you TOO pussy to even defend your own faith, much less you respond with ashanti?? lol



aint looking too good sport

  

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48. "Check mate was a couple moves back."
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You got Ruy Lopezed.

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39. "next negro men will be dancing with white women on tv!"
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40. "atillah doesn't understand black or racist references, like at all lol "
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dude thinks black people are wrong in not knowing the history of black jesus lol


how can you be double wrong tho

  

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56. "RE: next negro men will be dancing with white women on tv!"
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clutch the pearls!!!!! Where da white women ??

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11. "You are asking people who are unreasonable to be reasonable"
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thats pretty much it in a nutshell

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14. "What religious people are you around that's saying this??..."
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& if they are saying this why are you taking it so literal?

  

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18. "Many of my relatives Muslime and Christian "
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And they take it seriously.
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21. "Then they're some nuts, no disrespect "
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30. "unfortunately those nuts"
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have managed to isolate / are isolated along with

significant parts of our community.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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86. "How is Fido going to sign a marriage contract?"
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Or even be able to explain what his relationship with X is like?

I don't mean any disrespect to your relatives, but they're not thinking critically.

  

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37. "vver heard of this new shit called twitter??"
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cuz they makin themselves known allay/eryday on there, hell they got twitter poppin right now with this bullshit lol

  

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16. "because they eat da poo poo"
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42. "^^^^^^"
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24. "better questions why give their idiocy more attention? Aka who GAF"
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Bout that craziness

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stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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49. "Would you want to live I a world where that is considered normal?"
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Like having people teach your kids, serve your food, sign your paycheck, lead your country, and have animal intercourse as part of their daily activities?

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90. "What does that have to do with gay marriage??"
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Do you not want to live in a world where gay people can get married?

  

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95. "Don't care either way. I know where this train is headed. "
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But you are right the two, generally speaking, have nothing to do with each other. I think people that are linking the two are doing so along what they believe to be moral lines. See #94.

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34. "RE: Whats up with religious people saying beastiality is next or somethi..."
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Heaven's NAW!!!!

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35. "Slippery slope is basically the conservative argument against everything..."
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gun control, taxes, gay rights, etc...

if they have no reasonable argument for or against the matter at hand, they can just link it to whatever extreme nonsense they want to pretend it will lead to, then ask people to defend that instead.

"If two adults are in love and not hurting anyone, what's your reason for wanting to deny them basic rights?"

"What if if a man wanted to marry an ostrich? Would you support that?"

  

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73. "yeah it's not a thing humans are prone to at all"
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they didn't first bring Africans here as indentured servants

then took their personal rights to be treated equally

then took their children's rights to be treated equally

then made sure anyone of African ancestry in America could never be treated equally

nope-- no slippery slope there. Certainly not a pattern Americans could possibly fall in to.


I mean there was really just the gulf war

then the Iraq war

then Afghanistan

and now perpetual war in the Middle East.

You right-- I don't see it at all.

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96. "im sure this all made sense in your head"
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>they didn't first bring Africans here as indentured servants
>
>then took their personal rights to be treated equally
>
>then took their children's rights to be treated equally
>
>then made sure anyone of African ancestry in America could
>never be treated equally
>
>nope-- no slippery slope there. Certainly not a pattern
>Americans could possibly fall in to.
>
>
>I mean there was really just the gulf war
>
>then the Iraq war
>
>then Afghanistan
>
>and now perpetual war in the Middle East.
>
>You right-- I don't see it at all.

  

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98. "Well now that the obvious has been stated-- what parts are off?"
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In that illustration?

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102. "you're doing exactly what i pointed out, but just in a more batshit way"
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the point is 'slippery slope' is too often used as a tactic, mostly by conservatives or religious types to ignore matter at hand, and the go-to excuse to resist social change every time it's even suggested.

So when someone suggests someone with a mental illness will have to take an extra step before purchasing an AK47, the conversation turns to the inevitably of the government taking all our guns away, so somehow by supporting a common sense background check, you ultimately support tyranny.

Same shit with the phony inevitability of bestiality. People bringing it up are only doing so because they don't have a reasonable argument against gay marriage, so the next best thing is to make it seem like if you support, A, you now somehow support B because B is coming.

But of course, instead of addressing my actual point, you dropped a bunch of examples of just shit that's happened, and asked me to point out what is and isn't true. Bestiality is next because, what about the slave trade and the wars in the middle east? lol.
i suppose you're trying to argue that there IS such thing as a slippery slope, when it was never my point that there is no such thing, or that something can't lead to something else. my point is that more often than not, it's a bullshit tactic, only really pulled out to divert from or ignore the thing they can't argue against.\

Please don't reply though. I can already tell this is a waste of time.

  

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104. "Hey assuming the outcome of an exchange is my move. "
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And since you asked that I not respond I of course now have to based on GP.

I actually agree that it is used a lot and it's not always applicable as your Illustration pointed out. I just think to not weigh it is also equally presumptuous.

I stated this already but the people who say it's next or otherwise forthcoming are doing so (I would guess) based on their views on morality and when it comes to issues of that nature the "slippery slope" is perhaps more the crux of the argument when orienting from that perspective.

Some would say that when it comes to issues of personal ethics or rationalizations it is easy and perhaps more often than not that we humans will push what we would consider to be our boundaries if consequences related to the overstepping of those boundaries are removed.

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36. "ain't nobody studyin them."
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fuck you.

  

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38. "I saw a lady raped by a dolphin..."
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it's possible.

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51. "She shouldn't have been dressed like Ariel "
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Swimming around looking all seductive n shit under the sea

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52. "Hahahaha"
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>Swimming around looking all seductive n shit under the sea


lol

  

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50. "NO, but there are people that do."
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They think it will be okay to marry relatives and all types of fuckery. I've got more important things to do than rally against something that already passed.

  

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54. "There's laws on the book to prevent it for a reason. Think about that"
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.
.
.
"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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57. "Don't you get it yet?"
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The fire and brimstone preachers who are secretly sleeping with multiple people in their congregations.

The anti-gay campaigners who are sending underarmour pxts to young boys and going on dates to the nail salon.

Men choking out their daughters.

When you're that depraved and struggling that hard to maintain a public veneer that's consistent with your message, it's easy to imagine the rest of society is the same as you or worse.

Especially when you combine those traits with hypocrisy, condescension and a judgemental attitude.

If you're warped enough your worldview warps with you, and it can be strong enough to warp those who follow you.

It's a sad state of affairs.

Just IMO though.

  

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62. "Say that shit Ted"
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>The fire and brimstone preachers who are secretly sleeping
>with multiple people in their congregations.
>
>The anti-gay campaigners who are sending underarmour pxts to
>young boys and going on dates to the nail salon.
>
>Men choking out their daughters.
>
>When you're that depraved and struggling that hard to maintain
>a public veneer that's consistent with your message, it's easy
>to imagine the rest of society is the same as you or worse.
>
>Especially when you combine those traits with hypocrisy,
>condescension and a judgemental attitude.
>
>If you're warped enough your worldview warps with you, and it
>can be strong enough to warp those who follow you.
>
>It's a sad state of affairs.

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63. "whoa!"
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fuck you.

  

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65. "oh god."
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Tue Jun-30-15 11:15 AM by Mike Jackson

          

that makes all of the sense, doesn't it?

  

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70. "*searches frantically for the like button*"
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"To Each His Reach"

  

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71. "Everything that was stated has been stated "
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In the Judeo Christian books.

>The fire and brimstone preachers who are secretly sleeping
>with multiple people in their congregations.

The Bible refers to such as wolves in sheeps clothing. So trying to connect this to anything Judeo Christian is a waste.

>
>The anti-gay campaigners who are sending underarmour pxts to
>young boys and going on dates to the nail salon.

We know what Judeo Christian writings say about this as well. Again a futile statement.


>Men choking out their daughters.

Those that harm children not favorably looked upon by the same writings.


>When you're that depraved and struggling that hard to maintain
>a public veneer that's consistent with your message, it's easy
>to imagine the rest of society is the same as you or worse.

A lot of folks have planks in their eyes but try to remove specs of dust from the eyes of others. Again this is written.


>Especially when you combine those traits with hypocrisy,
>condescension and a judgemental attitude.

So sex with animals is cool in your book?

>If you're warped enough your worldview warps with you, and it
>can be strong enough to warp those who follow you.

Your are trying to point at something that says the exact same things you just typed and call it mistaken.

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77. "RE: Everything that was stated has been stated "
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>In the Judeo Christian books.
>
>>The fire and brimstone preachers who are secretly sleeping
>>with multiple people in their congregations.
>
>The Bible refers to such as wolves in sheeps clothing. So
>trying to connect this to anything Judeo Christian is a
>waste.
>
>>
>>The anti-gay campaigners who are sending underarmour pxts to
>>young boys and going on dates to the nail salon.
>
>We know what Judeo Christian writings say about this as well.
>Again a futile statement.
>
>
>>Men choking out their daughters.
>
>Those that harm children not favorably looked upon by the same
>writings.
>
>
>>When you're that depraved and struggling that hard to
>maintain
>>a public veneer that's consistent with your message, it's
>easy
>>to imagine the rest of society is the same as you or worse.
>
>A lot of folks have planks in their eyes but try to remove
>specs of dust from the eyes of others. Again this is written.
>
>
>>Especially when you combine those traits with hypocrisy,
>>condescension and a judgemental attitude.
>
>So sex with animals is cool in your book?
>
>>If you're warped enough your worldview warps with you, and
>it
>>can be strong enough to warp those who follow you.
>
>Your are trying to point at something that says the exact same
>things you just typed and call it mistaken.

None of what you said has anything to do with the OP's statement about what others are saying and where that's coming from. I'm not playing pin the Gospel on the (fake) Christian. I'm pinning the underlying issues that influence certain public statements.

Just IMO though.

  

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81. "Gotcha-- my misunderstanding."
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78. "<3"
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130. "#A! "
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61. "My best guess is"
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Some people are just ignorant and with education they will change....
but there is a contingent of people out there who are aggressively pro-authority and hung up on rigid social mores who are like that because they know inside of themselves, unlike the most of us, is something that if not carefully contained are 100% capable of crazy shit like bestiality. They project that shit on to others because honestly it's their baseline and the rules are the only thing keeping the hulk in box.

If by some magic wand all the societal rules on earth were gone tomorrow most people wouldn't ever try to fuck a koala bear. Why would gay people marrying cause that? Makes no sense.
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64. "back when i was a xtian i was VERY bothered by the cynicism"
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w/in the faith as related to human nature. the idea that we are all wretched ppl who can only be made better via God and w/o Him we will wallow in our filth. as if we are incapable of anything other than decadence w/o God.

it was like the faith wanted me to hate myself and that i could only love myself via God.

i now understand that's just the teaching of the denominations to which i was exposed and a good number of xtians don't believe that - at least not to the extreme i was taught.

fuck you.

  

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79. "Yep"
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I firmly believe religion and the military are for people who don't know how to live without moral codes dictated to them

They really don't know what to do with themselves otherwise
And yes they really do need them

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67. "because when people feel threatened"
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they resort to the "slippery slope" defense

  

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72. "The best thing about human nature is that it never changes "
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People talk a lot of nonsense about moving forward when the truth is we are moving in circles.

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74. "^^says the guy who thinks jesus is lenny kravitz"
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bible beaters and their simple, meaningless analogies


worser than barber shop smart+/-dumb niggas

  

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82. "Thanks Zaire"
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Our discourse has shown me just how ugly I can be and personally I rather not be that way as it is my natural bent. So if I'm not using my negatives to help others i.e. turning negatives into positives than I rather not use them.

I regret that we've had such a volatile exchange and I'm stepping away from it.

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92. "lol im not, so save the passive aggressive shit for Christian Mingle"
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you can't show your true colors and then pretend you are not what you've acted on



but that IS the christian way

  

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75. " I blame Dave"
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“Hey, dog, we’re going to go to the club, pick up some girls, you trying to roll?” “No, man, I’m cool.” “I’m going to stay home, dog, chill with my monkey.”

time is money, money is time
so i keep 7 o'clock in the bank and gain interest in the hour of God
I'm saving to buy my freedom, God, grant me wings, I'm too fly not to fly _ Saul Williams

  

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91. "Mo' monkey pussy fo' me! All i fucks is chimps and orangatangsssss"
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80. "It may not be next, but it's still a spade that can be played "
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.
.
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"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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83. "Totally agree. And they say believers are too literal."
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84. "Why?"
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You're going to need to qualify why people fucking animals can be reasonably compared to people marrying people.

You're going to need to qualify this quite well, Rev. Really quite well.

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88. "The Answer: Because of Love. And they can. They're attracted to Animals "
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You can't tell people that their love for something is unnatural, especially since this is not an isolated issue.

Check this out: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/14/denmark-s-bestiality-problem-it-s-legal.html



>You're going to need to qualify why people fucking animals
>can be reasonably compared to people marrying people.
>
>You're going to need to qualify this quite well, Rev. Really
>quite well.


And there are LAWS on the books that makes having sex with an animal illegal. If no one was doing it, then there would be no need for the law.
.



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"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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89. "That's not what I asked."
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I didn't say anything about the existence of beastiality - of course it exists and always has; I asked you why you think it's a relevant topic to bring up when discussing homosexual marriages.

Why do you feel that a human marrying a human is comparable to a human fucking an animal?

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93. "I gave you an answer. How about Human Depravity. "
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>I didn't say anything about the existence of beastiality - of
>course it exists and always has; I asked you why you think
>it's a relevant topic to bring up when discussing homosexual
>marriages.
>

I don't think the lifestyle or act of same-sex is the direct correlation. What I do believe is relative is the notion of if people are doing something that they are happy and or love doing then it's ok. So yeah, Some People LOVE animals more than humans and some believe that they are wired to love animals sexually. Some people think we evolved from animals, so the issue is not that off. And some people think that it doesn't matter who has sex with what as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Human Depravity

>Why do you feel that a human marrying a human is comparable to
>a human fucking an animal?
>

I never said that. So you can hold that one for the next guy. But If a human wanted to have sex with an animal that he/she loves, based on the (What happens in my bedroom is my business attitude) everything should be OK. Right?





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"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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97. "You're conveniently forgetting about consent."
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A human has to consent to sex whether hetero or homosexual, male or female.

Animals lack the communicative abilities to explicitly consent to sex.

Therefore sex with animals is almost always effectively rape and should not be talked about in the same breath as consensual relations between two adult humans.

Rape and sex are not the same thing.

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99. "Love for something require consent."
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being born with a predisposition doesn't require consent.

  

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100. "Human sex involves consent from BOTH sides."
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Beastiality can only assume consent from *one* side so is not a love union resulting in sex; it's rape. Rape IS depraved.

Sticking to humans, if you love a woman and fuck her without her consent, it's rape. The difference is it's possible to get a woman or man's consent, it's not possible to get a dog's or a goat's consent.

Given that all beastiality is in effect rape, it is entirely incomparable to consensual sex between humans and the two need never be compared - they are not part of the same slippery slope. One is an act of love between two humans willingly engaging with each other, however off-putting it may be to those on the outside - the other, even if regarded as an act of love by the human side, is abuse.

You can try all you like to compare the two, but you're only shining a light on your own prejudice.

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106. "That can be redefined . See the SCOTUSi"
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You need to pay more attention to what has happened and the illegal action that the SCOTUS took.

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.
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"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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141. "Can you expand on that?"
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Why does the SCOTUS ruling have an impact on consent required from both sides of a sexual relationship meaning that homosexuality and beastiality are suitable for comparison?

Have they legalised rape without us noticing? I'm fairly sure they haven't, but humour me and inform if you believe they have?

Because unless they've legalised homosexual rape under the guise of consensual marriage this has absolutely nothing to do with beastiality (as we've established - always rape) unless you're worryingly broken in your view of humans or you're just trying to whip up further controversy in order to divide humanity even further.

People loving people is a good thing; isn't that what you spend your days teaching?

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107. "Perhaps that's what love is to him"
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A one sided affair where so often the other side doesn't reciprocate.

Perhaps he's afraid that those who also suffer that fate will be allowed to enter marriage contracts with parties that are unable to sign any other contracts in law because they can neither read or consent.

Apprently SCOTUS allowing two mentally capable parties to sign a contract and have that recognised by the authorities is legally the same as allowing contracts where even the human side's mental capacity is questionable.

Just IMO though.

  

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110. "FYI, you don't sign a marriage contract to get married. "
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You sing a Marriage Liscense. Marriage contracts are legal documents regarding property and conditions. But I'll let you cook, since I've officiated and planned a few weddings and you haven't.


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and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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111. "Oh. It's different over there. My bad"
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Switch the words around and my point is the same. Someone who knows how to understand the principle of what I said can help you out if you're confused again.

Good to see you turning from your lies about not dealing with me. Learning to love the truth is a good first step. Many hugs await at the end of the journey.

Just IMO though.

  

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112. "Well, I tried. You can keep the Backhanded Sarcasm. "
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>Switch the words around and my point is the same. Someone who
>knows how to understand the principle of what I said can help
>you out if you're confused again.
>
>Good to see you turning from your lies about not dealing with
>me. Learning to love the truth is a good first step. Many hugs
>await at the end of the journey.


^^ This was totally unnecessary.


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and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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113. "When you learn to love the truth you'll appreciate its necessity"
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>^^ This was totally unnecessary.

Not to you, not yet. But I'll help you out buddy.

Just IMO though.

  

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114. "Dude, save all of the extra like you are above it all with me."
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Your nature is still what it is and you can't help yourself. You don't know what Love is. But I've been praying for you and I see the Lord is trying to redeem you, but you have to come all the way and stop with the Cattiness and Confusion.
I know that prayer can change people. So, Just like Jesus, I'm going to keep asking the Father to forgive you, because you don't know what you are doing when you try to come at me. You only hurt yourself.

But it's gonna be alright.




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"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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116. "Perhaps that's your motivation when you post"
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>Your nature is still what it is and you can't help yourself.
>You don't know what Love is. But I've been praying for you and
>I see the Lord is trying to redeem you, but you have to come
>all the way and stop with the Cattiness and Confusion.
>I know that prayer can change people. So, Just like Jesus, I'm
>going to keep asking the Father to forgive you, because you
>don't know what you are doing when you try to come at me. You
>only hurt yourself.
>

And that's ok. You can't help but see your own motivations in others when they're trying to help you, so you can't take it at face value. All that dislike for me bubbling up because you're hurting for love. It's all hugs Jerome, I'm here to help. I know it's going to take a long time, but I won't give up. Then you'll learn to genuinely pray for others. We're going to get there fam, don't you worry.

Just IMO though.

  

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117. "Praying for you. "
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and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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118. "Start with yourself."
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Self love is key.

We gotta keep you focused. I'm not crying about how people talk to me on the board. We need to help you be happy.

Just IMO though.

  

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126. "You should start with yourself."
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Praying for you.

  

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127. "I do start with myself."
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That's why I genuinely try to help you. Not like your hate fueled name calling and side stepping deflection.

But Jerome, if you need the last word, if you're really hurting for a win in your life, drop me another "praying for you" so I know how defeated and out of real thoughts you are.

Try to sneak in any more cheeky lies and I'll have to shine the truth on them as per usual though. We have to help you learn to love the truth again so I'm not letting any of your unproven claims go.

Have a hug and a smile.

Just IMO though.

  

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128. "Praying for you."
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129. "I see that confusion is your hashtag. "
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I pray that God will deliver from your double-minded confusion and shady tendencies. You are very crafty, but that mess has no bearing on me. I just hope that you will find away understand that Jesus died for your sins and that he wants you to live better and not in agreement with your current ways of living and treating people.

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and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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132. "Prayer from hate isn't the way to go Jerome"
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>I pray that God will deliver from your double-minded
>confusion and shady tendencies. You are very crafty, but that
>mess has no bearing on me. I just hope that you will find away
>understand that Jesus died for your sins and that he wants you
>to live better and not in agreement with your current ways of
>living and treating people.
>

My current ways of living include a marriage bourne of a relationship more than ten years deep and good relations with my parents. No kids out of wedlock. You hate that and that's why I want to bring love back into your life, to cleanse all these unproven lies you spin about me and likely others here.

Trying to get some hugs and happiness for you fam.

Just remember, when the truth gets too hard you can tap out with praying for you. But any lies you spin I'll cleanse with the truth backed by facts, not hate filled innuendo.

Hugs Jerome.

Just IMO though.

  

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134. "Save the justification and get rigth with Jesus."
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It's time for you to be honest and move forward with real life. Hopefully you will find peace and give your life to Christ and stop defecting your misery at me. You will find that Jesus never followed anyone around, never caused confusion for anyone, never lied one anyone, and never told anyone that it was alright to sin. You have done all of the aforementioned. And you need to surrender to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and repent for your sinful actions.

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with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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136. "Poor, sweet Jerome"
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RE: Save the justification and get rigth with Jesus.

^^ See what happens when your hate gets a hold of your keyboard? Your spirit can't keep your words straight,

>It's time for you to be honest and move forward with real
>life. Hopefully you will find peace and give your life to
>Christ and stop defecting your misery at me.

Misery is the man calling me Devil Seed. That's why I'm here to help you let it all out and come to terms. Take all the time you want, or just tap out with another "praying for you." The choice is yours my friend.

>You will find
>that Jesus never followed anyone around, never caused
>confusion for anyone, never lied one anyone, and never told
>anyone that it was alright to sin. You have done all of the
>aforementioned.

Lying like this isn't loving yourself Jerome. Loving yourself starts with living up to the same standards as everyone else, and that's with the proof you always ask of them. If it's a lie when they don't offer any proof, it's likewise a lie when you do the same. Get your internal logic right and really start loving yourself with it. You'll find so much healing there for you.

>And you need to surrender to my Lord and
>Savior Jesus Christ and repent for your sinful actions.
>

I did that long before you did the same. Learn to love and you'll learn to love the truth of what I said.

God bless you and have a hug.

Just IMO though.

  

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138. "^^ Proof of non Christian ways. "
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And proof of total obsession with me. It's rather sick.
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God raised him from the dead,
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139. "You see my desire to help you as non-Christian"
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Sun Jul-05-15 10:29 PM by Ted Gee Seal

  

          

>And proof of total obsession with me. It's rather sick.

And your hateful name calling and accusations as Christian.

You can't address the truth of my statements. That's ok. This is a process. You can keep pouring out the emotion from the hardness of your heart. Jesus heals when you really appeal to Him and his wisdom, not your hatred of me.

Of course I'm obsessed with helping lost Christians whose conduct doesn't help them express the love that Jesus offers. Jesus' love is for all! That includes you. That's why I stick with you and show you where you err, not hatefully call you names and make up accusations.

I know you can't address the truth of these statements, so you'll stick to unproven slander, or fall back onto "praying for you". That's alright. But I'm going to shine the light of truth no matter what lies you throw at me.

Have a blessed evening Jerome.

Just IMO though.

  

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103. "Wrong again. Dumbass. CONSENT requires ALL PARTIES"
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How friggin retarded can you consistently be on here?

Its absurd how many times you keep falling prey to the same rhetorical flaws

  

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105. "Love for something doesn't require consent."
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But you're such a hater.. Enjoy your hater life.

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87. "Well... http://i.imgur.com/hwM778J.jpg"
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http://i.imgur.com/hwM778J.jpg

  

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101. "if they had the ability to apply logic they wouldn't be christians"
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108. "So this is Christian thing? I'm just asking because the OP -"
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never mentioned a particular religion. So that means you are just assuming and you are assuming that Christians are incapable of logical or critical thought.

Surely, that's not the over-reaching argument that you are making



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109. "this dude cant help himself"
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115. "Jesus Loves you. "
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and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
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119. "you made ANOTHER post questioning transgendered people"
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Im glad it got deleted. I hope every time you make a post questioning LGBT life it gets deleted

Im done coming at you foul in response, I just hope your bullshit isn't allowed to run rampant much longer

lol at wanting to talk on the phone, you're possibly the most insincere character on here

  

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120. "They won't get it until years later"
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the same "The Bible condones slavery, so you are violating my religious rights" crap converted to the Gay community 40 years later

we all should know that there are no rights for persecuting and infringing on the rights of others

see people against woman's suffrage, for anti-miscegenation laws, separate but equal, and slavery, all fought against at one point by some uneducated bigot hiding behind religious dogma to protect an ignorant, logically indefensible and unpopular opinion.

What's amazing to me is a lot of the same ignorant fools that claim Pres. Obama's 53 year old birth certificate is a forgery and can't be trusted are convinced a book several thousand years old is 100% truth and hasn't been altered by man for personal benefit.

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121. "I'm also sick and tired of the nonsense"
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...about the person can be homosexual but not act on the urges for a same sex relationship

that is the biggest load of horseshit knowing that they are born gay

If they think it's a choice they are unicorn, loch ness monster believing flat earth logic denier

when did they decide to be straight?

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122. "the pedophilia angle is also lamely trotted out"
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and it's also bullshit

the only valid one is polygamy IMO, consenting adults

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131. "Why are you so unhappy and manic?"
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One minute you don't want me to talk to you, but then you seek my attention in every way possible. You're acting like a bitter ex-girlfriend. Someone who hates their ex but can't get enough of seeking his approval.

As for the Transgender Artical /OP-Ed in the Wall Street Journal; it was written by Dr. McHugh, a celebrated and recognized former psychiatrist in chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital, and he's smarter than you. But you can argue with him, not me. Write him and tell him how wrong he is. Or you can just take a non biased veiw and look at matter for more than one junk filled angle.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

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and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
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133. "Jesus loves you. Praying for you."
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135. "Yes, Jesus does love me. But you should stop lying."
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You have never prayed and are not praying for me. But you will have to answer to God for that lie. Be Careful what you say about what your actions.
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"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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Ted Gee Seal
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137. "Accusations without proof aren't productive Jerome"
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>You have never prayed and are not praying for me. But you
>will have to answer to God for that lie. Be Careful what you
>say about what your actions.
>.

If this is the case, we can say you're lying when you pray for me too. We have as much proof as you do. And we know you're not careful about what you say about your actions. You're constantly complaining when people follow your unloving approach to dialog here.

But see, there's an opportunity here for you to carefully consider what you say and how your actions are misaligned to your claims. You can learn to love the truth, starting today. There's a whole new level of happiness and living waiting for you on the other side.

You can do it, buddy!

Just IMO though.

  

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140. "Praying for you."
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123. "Maurice Bessinger types hate gays instead of Blacks now"
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less universal social stigma right now, but it will be looked at with the same disgust in a few years

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/29/us/sauce-is-boycotted-and-slavery-is-the-issue.html

the article also dovetails in the battle flag issue quite nicely

history has a way of revealing the truth

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142. "Exactly this."
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People need to make sure they're on the right side of this one... history will NOT be kind to the people clawing for any justification to keep minority groups downtrodden.

I certainly wouldn't want my legacy to be of the misguided preacher duped into promoting hate and disharmony then forever used as an example of weak-minded immorality to generations of sociology students.

_______________________________

))<>((
forever.

  

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Ted Gee Seal
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143. "Those preachers are into their short term earthly reward"
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>People need to make sure they're on the right side of this
>one... history will NOT be kind to the people clawing for any
>justification to keep minority groups downtrodden.
>
>I certainly wouldn't want my legacy to be of the misguided
>preacher duped into promoting hate and disharmony then forever
>used as an example of weak-minded immorality to generations of
>sociology students.

^^ none of this matters when they don't love themselves enough to face the truth and be humbled by it. And when you don't love yourself, it's impossible to truly love others, let consider a legacy whose main beneficiaries would be the vulnerable in the community rather than the rich in your congregation.

Just IMO though.

  

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124. "I just assume they like to fuck goats or something"
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Usually the people who are the most squeamish/uncomfortable about something are the ones who not-so-deep-down really desire it. Like in college I knew a dude who was "fag" this and "fag" that all day and he'd almost conspicuously tongue girls down at parties. Turned out to be a out-and-out homosexual, he lives in SF and designs theater sets now. This other chick I knew was even worse, she would get like visibly revolted by all things girl-girl, only to Ross from Friends my boy like two years later. They were about to get married and she was like "GUESS WHAT? I'D RATHER SCISSOR YOUR SISTER!" and shot him deuces.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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125. "yep, they Larry Craig their shit"
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happens quite often

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