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Mongo
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"Trinidad James. Buzzfeed. I can't..."


  

          

All Gold Everything

http://www.buzzfeed.com/reggieugwu/trinidad-james-is-sorry-about-all-those-one-hit-wonders-in-h#.ltoWWwDkj

Few artists offer a better example of how quickly fortunes can change in the modern music industry than Nick Williams, the Atlanta rapper known as Trinidad James, whose spectacular rise in 2012 (on the back of the viral single “All Gold Everything” and its blingtastic video) was followed by an equally stunning descent last year, when he announced that his recording contract with Def Jam — once valued at a reported $2 million — had been unceremoniously terminated.

But the collapse of his major label career — which he now attributes to a combination of creative differences, industry malpractice, and his own inexperience as an artist — wasn’t the end of the story for Williams. In November of last year, Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars sampled some the lyrics of “All Gold Everything” (“Don’t believe me, just watch!”) for their single “Uptown Funk,” which later went on to tie the record for second-longest run at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in history (14 weeks). Williams was given a songwriting credit and a share of publishing royalties for the song, a distinction that could make him a very wealthy man for the rest of his career — whether he ever writes another hit or not.

BuzzFeed News called Williams at home in Los Angeles, where he moved to from Atlanta two months ago, to talk about life after “Uptown Funk,” how the music industry “preys on young children,” and why he feels responsible for the recent wave of one-hit wonders in hip-hop, from Bobby Shmurda to O.T. Genasis. “After me, all the labels had thirst in their eyes to catch a new kid with the hottest song and sign him,” he says. If Williams’ story is a cautionary tale, is anybody listening?

  

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He's delusional.
Apr 24th 2015
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Soulja Boy lead the pack BUT TJ did start a new wave
Apr 24th 2015
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      the last wave never stopped, there is no "new wave"
Apr 24th 2015
6
           remember 'Rappin Duke'? dah-ha dah-ha?
Apr 24th 2015
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                Yep, and even outside of Rap..nothing at all new
Apr 24th 2015
11
                except they weren't novelty acts
Apr 24th 2015
15
                     so could Young MC who wrote as many hits as them combined, he still was
Apr 27th 2015
61
Good read. You didn't like it?
Apr 24th 2015
2
That independant store/mall analogy is pretty brilliant.
Apr 24th 2015
3
agreed
Apr 25th 2015
42
he is the luckiest motherfucker on earth!
Apr 24th 2015
5
he's overstating his impact a bit, but he's not wrong on much here
Apr 24th 2015
7
'push the project'
Apr 24th 2015
9
yeah... labels sign you to make more than one hit
Apr 24th 2015
10
Oh this COMPLETELY revived his career. He's touring n all again
Apr 24th 2015
12
most of the music industry is built on one hit wonders
Apr 24th 2015
13
oh, i officially fux w/ uptown funk now that i know he got writing
Apr 24th 2015
14
yeah once I found out he got paid I was cool w/ it, also the yam who
Apr 25th 2015
24
exactly.
Apr 26th 2015
57
Saw him talking about this in the Hot 97 Interview...
Apr 24th 2015
16
He's always been humble as sh*t. I genuinely like him as a person and
Apr 24th 2015
17
I'ts crazy to me that one line gets him a writing credit.
Apr 25th 2015
18
they took it directly from his song tho
Apr 25th 2015
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You're on a whole 'nother planet with this one
Apr 25th 2015
20
and the horn stabs match his "nigganigganigga"
Apr 25th 2015
22
      i think that's what put it over the top
Apr 25th 2015
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they coulda said dont believe me I'll show you
Apr 25th 2015
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RE: I'ts crazy to me that one line gets him a writing credit.
Apr 25th 2015
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they used it exactly the way he used it
Apr 25th 2015
25
The idea of owning a sentence is crazy to me, and I work in IP.
Apr 25th 2015
45
i agree.
Apr 25th 2015
26
after hearing All Gold for the first time 2 minutes ago... so do I
Apr 25th 2015
39
Yeah this is my point. The music legal landscape is changing in a
Apr 25th 2015
44
I guess Michael Jackson infringed Mavis Stavis by saying Shamone
Apr 26th 2015
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its a defensive strategy, and a smart one at that.
Apr 27th 2015
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      Exactly. Not sure what's so hard to understand
Apr 27th 2015
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           not sure why you think we don't understand that.
Apr 27th 2015
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Its one line that he repeats in the hook, that they repeat in the hook
Apr 25th 2015
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To be fair, it's more than one line
Apr 26th 2015
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      yeah bruno jacked the shit out of that joint. at least he cut him a chec...
Apr 26th 2015
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      THIS. I was almost gonna respond like "y'all for real?????"
Apr 27th 2015
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      ^^^ If yall don't get it now, yall just bein obtuse.
Apr 27th 2015
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      I see it now that it's pointed out. I am just saying it isn't obvious
Apr 27th 2015
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           I mean, some folks claim Blurred lines sounds nothing at all like Got to
Apr 27th 2015
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                No. No we don't.
Apr 27th 2015
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                     Def wasn't talking about you, I remember what you said
Apr 27th 2015
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                          sho you right.
Apr 27th 2015
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how does anyone with music taste keep up with artists like him?
Apr 25th 2015
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not.....one?
Apr 25th 2015
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      no not one...
Apr 25th 2015
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           so you've never heard his hit song ever
Apr 25th 2015
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                Shit even I've heard "All Gold Everything" and I hate rap right now
Apr 25th 2015
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                it seems nearly impossible that anyone hasn't heard that song
Apr 25th 2015
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                     I just played this song for the first time because of this thread
Apr 25th 2015
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                          if, two years ago, you never left the house
Apr 25th 2015
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                               like I said, if I heard it on my radio I turned before the hook.
Apr 25th 2015
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                               ^^ this dumb ass logic never makes any fucking sense
Apr 25th 2015
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                               dude it's bullshit. I live in the suburbs.
Apr 27th 2015
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                                    k.
Apr 27th 2015
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                               i forgot abt award shows....
Apr 25th 2015
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                never heard it.
Apr 25th 2015
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                     you still listen to the radio? ,,,,,
Apr 25th 2015
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                          I live in Charlotte and scan hip hop stations for 10 to 15 minutes every...
Apr 25th 2015
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                               fuck all that, you post here. this community has typed about it.
Apr 25th 2015
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                               the song doesnt play in the background when people type about it
Apr 25th 2015
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                               ^^ haha, tell em
Apr 25th 2015
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                               LMBAO!
Apr 25th 2015
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                               for real lol
Apr 25th 2015
51
                                    funny, the first time I heard "Happy"
Apr 26th 2015
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                                         First time I heard it was on spotify on one of my radio stations...
Apr 26th 2015
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                               Y'all kind of bugging acting the song was THAT big of a hit.
Apr 26th 2015
58
                                    MIMS, with Junior Reid on the superior reggae remix
Apr 27th 2015
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                                    In the Rap world, it was. Arguably biggest Rap song of the year
Apr 27th 2015
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                               This right here....
Apr 25th 2015
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Where is that "I can't" part?
Apr 27th 2015
60
Question
Apr 27th 2015
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As said above, it's more than just "Don't believe me just watch"
Apr 27th 2015
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it doesnt pass the eye/ear/smell test to you?
Apr 27th 2015
78
Babyface on Mariah's 'We Belong Together'
Apr 27th 2015
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      that very special michelle k shit is similar, too. loads of precedents
May 02nd 2015
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you all do know elton john got a credit from aloe blacc, too, right?
Apr 27th 2015
79

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1. "He's delusional. "
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That dude is in no way responsible for all the latest one-hit-wonders that have infiltrated rap music. You'd have more success blaming youtube and the pursuit of views.


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4. "Soulja Boy lead the pack BUT TJ did start a new wave"
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of new, overnight artists being signed/sought out

  

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6. "the last wave never stopped, there is no "new wave""
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hip hop has been on "one hit wonder" status since D4L hit us with "Laffy Taffy"

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8. "remember 'Rappin Duke'? dah-ha dah-ha?"
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LOL

novelty rap acts have been around since rap began.

fuck you.

  

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11. "Yep, and even outside of Rap..nothing at all new"
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15. "except they weren't novelty acts"
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Mims, Jibbs, D4L, Soulja Boy, Cali Swag District, Yung Joc, etc would prolly be more than a bit pissed for considering them "novelty acts"

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61. "so could Young MC who wrote as many hits as them combined, he still was"
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>Mims, Jibbs, D4L, Soulja Boy, Cali Swag District, Yung Joc,
>etc would prolly be more than a bit pissed for considering
>them "novelty acts"
>

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

www.somethinginthewudder.com

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2. "Good read. You didn't like it?"
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3. "That independant store/mall analogy is pretty brilliant."
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42. "agreed"
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5. "he is the luckiest motherfucker on earth!"
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Lol! God bless em


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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7. "he's overstating his impact a bit, but he's not wrong on much here"
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9. "'push the project'"
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uh...labels WILL push the album if there's more than one hit single on it. if the album only has one hit then the label is going to push that single and that's it.

Jay-Z and Kanye and Drake have managed to create multiple hits on some of their album projects - but not all of them. and when they only had one strong single that's all i heard and didn't hear much about the attached album. the same seems to be true across the board.

fuck you.

  

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10. "yeah... labels sign you to make more than one hit"
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it's not that easy tho...

some people have it, most don't.

  

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12. "Oh this COMPLETELY revived his career. He's touring n all again"
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13. "most of the music industry is built on one hit wonders"
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that get totally screwed on the deal that they sign. i'm happy that he's going to cake off uptown funk though.

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14. "oh, i officially fux w/ uptown funk now that i know he got writing"
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credits and is eating off that.

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24. "yeah once I found out he got paid I was cool w/ it, also the yam who"
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remix, that makes it sound as funky as bruce mars thinks it sounds, is actually good.

https://soundcloud.com/yam-who/mark-ronson-ft-bruno-mars-downtown-funk-yam-who

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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57. "exactly."
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16. "Saw him talking about this in the Hot 97 Interview..."
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Seems like a genuinely good dude. Has a lil foundation to help the kids.
Talking about maturing into a man, etc.
And he seems to be in a really good space, personally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnZQw1jmkXY



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17. "He's always been humble as sh*t. I genuinely like him as a person and "
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because of that I actually gave his music a chance.

was it great? No but it was fun and just the right amount of tolerable ignorance.

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18. "I'ts crazy to me that one line gets him a writing credit. "
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I mean no one said don't believe me just watch before him? I've heard both songs a 100 times and never saw any connection between the songs.


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19. "they took it directly from his song tho "
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20. "You're on a whole 'nother planet with this one"
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>I mean no one said don't believe me just watch before him?
>I've heard both songs a 100 times and never saw any connection
>between the songs.


You might be the only one who didn't catch the obvious connection from the words & the delivery. And it's not just a line in the song, it's part of the hook, making it way more obvious.

  

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22. "and the horn stabs match his "nigganigganigga""
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27. "i think that's what put it over the top"
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21. "they coulda said dont believe me I'll show you"
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23. "RE: I'ts crazy to me that one line gets him a writing credit. "
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>I mean no one said don't believe me just watch before him?
>I've heard both songs a 100 times and never saw any connection
>between the songs.
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yeah that's what stood out to me also
how does that work?
so if he didn't get writing credit could TJ have sued?
It's not like that's a totally original phrase that was never used on a recording before.
i never saw the connection between the two.

Will old school rappers or 70's funk bands be able to sue, for "the roof is on fire" or some shit in the next pop song that uses it.

good for him tho

  

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25. "they used it exactly the way he used it"
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it's his line

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45. "The idea of owning a sentence is crazy to me, and I work in IP. "
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26. "i agree. "
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he wouldn't get that credit before about 10 or 15 yrs ago. no way he gets it in 1965, 75, 85, or 95.

fuck you.

  

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39. "after hearing All Gold for the first time 2 minutes ago... so do I"
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I wonder if they have the same publishing company.

This shit looks like they looked out for dude.

I aint mad tho..

  

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44. "Yeah this is my point. The music legal landscape is changing in a"
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a bad way.

If Mark Ronson consciously ape'd the Trinidad James line and wanted to give credit, that's great. If he didn't want to pay for it, I don't think calling back to a line from a song out of circulation in the transformative manner he did rises to the level of actionable copyright infringement.


I mean rappers use famous lines from other rappers all the time. It would be crazy to me think De La Soul should have had to pay when they quoted "I'm something like a phenomenon" on that Ego Trippin record.

I guess this is why you can't buy De La Soul old records now.

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55. "I guess Michael Jackson infringed Mavis Stavis by saying Shamone"
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65. "its a defensive strategy, and a smart one at that."
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its much cheaper than defending / settling the inevitable copyright suit that would have followed.

  

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68. "Exactly. Not sure what's so hard to understand"
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>its much cheaper than defending / settling the inevitable
>copyright suit that would have followed.

  

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72. "not sure why you think we don't understand that."
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We are LAMENTING that the current litigious reality in entertainment has made the defense somewhat necessary. Bc years ago it wouldn't have been necessary. Bc acts didn't sue in a case like this.

fuck you.

  

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52. "Its one line that he repeats in the hook, that they repeat in the hook"
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that they say with the same intonation that he uses.

It's clearly taken from his song. Not rocket science.

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56. "To be fair, it's more than one line"
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The biggest thing is "don't believe me just watch" with the horn stabs. But it's also much of the cadence and phrasing in the verses matching nearly to the syllable count ("this ain't for no f*** ni***" is "this one for them hood girls", just sped up; "darkskin, light skin, Asian and white women" = "stylin, Wylin, living it up in the city"). I still agree that folks are getting too many credits these days. But this one is legit.

>I mean no one said don't believe me just watch before him?
>I've heard both songs a 100 times and never saw any connection
>between the songs.
>
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59. "yeah bruno jacked the shit out of that joint. at least he cut him a chec..."
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63. "THIS. I was almost gonna respond like "y'all for real?????""
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The whole structure was based off All gold everything. Much more than just the don't believe me just watch.

Hell, even "girls hit me hallelujah, OOOOO" = Pop a Molly I'm sweatin, WHOOO

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64. "^^^ If yall don't get it now, yall just bein obtuse."
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They don't listen to music, they just skim through it (c)Hov

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70. "I see it now that it's pointed out. I am just saying it isn't obvious"
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and it's crazy to me that it would be seen as copyright infringement if he didn't get permission.

It certainly makes sense from a business perspective to proactively get the permission if you knowingly borrowed from another song.

I just think it would be crazy that you could bring a copyright infringement claim based on that sort of transformative use.


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71. "I mean, some folks claim Blurred lines sounds nothing at all like Got to"
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73. "No. No we don't."
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We said if Williams borrowed from GTGIU he only borrowed elements that are not protected by the Gaye's copyright and so they should not have won that suit. We didnt say what you claim we said.

fuck you.

  

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74. "Def wasn't talking about you, I remember what you said"
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It's a lot of different arguments out there, but some people were really like "they don't sound alike at all to me." Twitter, Facebook, for sure.

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77. "sho you right."
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fuck you.

  

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28. "how does anyone with music taste keep up with artists like him?"
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i couldnt pick out a TJ song if you paid me to

  

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29. "not.....one?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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30. "no not one... "
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Unless you are a DJ or in the music industry there is no reason I cant see why you would know about this shit.

my friend in the industry asked me if I watched the latest battle rap videos.

Nigga I'm 40.. what purpose does that shit serve in my everyday life?

  

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31. "so you've never heard his hit song ever"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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32. "Shit even I've heard "All Gold Everything" and I hate rap right now"
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and I used to have that shit bangin out the minivan from time to time. It was one of those "Dammit this song sucks like nothing else but I can't stop playing it" type of tracks.


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33. "it seems nearly impossible that anyone hasn't heard that song"
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if you said any song other than that one, sure.

but c'mooooon, if you live in the world you've heard all gold everything

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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34. "I just played this song for the first time because of this thread"
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It's possible, cause I never heard this song before a day in my life until this post. I barely even know this dude's name.

I might just be that far removed from popular music now.

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35. "if, two years ago, you never left the house"
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and you never watched anything on broadcast or cable tv

and you used adblock on every single youtube video you ever watched


then, maybe, I guess.

otherwise? foh

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37. "like I said, if I heard it on my radio I turned before the hook. "
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It wasnt even "oh shit, now I remember"

I got nothing when I heard it just now...

I know the name Trinidad James but never knew what he looked or sounded like.



  

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41. "^^ this dumb ass logic never makes any fucking sense"
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but people are quick to throw it out there because it makes sense for them

ive NEVER been a club person
even in my early 20's
clubs was just wack to me

ive never been a big radio listener either

now that im in my 30's i only listen to my cd's or what ive downloaded
even more so than ever

so no
no radio
no satellite
no videos
no youtube or spotify or whatever other bullshit

the only other thing i listen to is Pandora
and with my stations a TJ song wont ever get played

what you call impossible
is my reality

  

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75. "dude it's bullshit. I live in the suburbs."
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you could not not hear that song coming out of a car's window as it drove by that summer. unless you don't go outside.

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76. "k."
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43. "i forgot abt award shows...."
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the last award show i watched was the 1995 Source Awards, when i was 16

see unlike most people who 'claim' to not like this shit
i actually practice it

im loathe the 'i dont like it but the hook is catchy' crowd

thats not me

i learned how and where to find the music i do like
and i stick to it

  

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36. "never heard it. "
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That beat is so slow it screams wackness so as soon as he started spittin I prolly changed back to sports radio or old school.

These new lazy rapppers make my blood boil so I gave it no chance.

Only new dudes I wont turn from is Future and I shoot at the reverend...ehh" cause that shit is catchy.

I'm an old back packer bruh, I have bitter ears.

and I now agree with Buddy G. They did that nigga favor because I dont hear the similarity now that I listened to it.

  

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38. "you still listen to the radio? ,,,,,"
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.....ok bruh. it was on the radio every five seconds that summer.

I don't listen to the radio and I heard it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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40. "I live in Charlotte and scan hip hop stations for 10 to 15 minutes every..."
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On my way home from work. I dont turn the radio on at home and I dont watch videos on TV anymore. If I watch the BET awards I turn when the new shitty rappers come on. I dont have the patience to hear that shit.

And if its some new shit that bangs I may let it ride even it the lyrics are ass...

But slow knock like that shit gets turned off as soon as I hear that wack ass flow.

like I said. my ears are old and bitter and unless its minaj, yeezy, weezy, drake or TI on the radio... it gets turned off if the beat is slow. Aint nothing worse than a slow ass wack rapper.

I like myrappers technical. my ears aint got time for that "I just started rapping last week" flow

  

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46. "fuck all that, you post here. this community has typed about it."
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47. "the song doesnt play in the background when people type about it"
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I have no reason to lie.

  

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48. "^^ haha, tell em"
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like them posting about it is going to make me youtube his music

nah

  

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50. "LMBAO!"
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51. "for real lol"
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i legit when 4 or 5 months without hearing happy and apparently that shit was EVERY WHERE from the time it came out.
anytime the video and the remakes found their way on my timeline
i kept scrolling, didn't listen to radio at all, and didn't have cable at the time to catch it on
tv. one day i was driving my dad's car and forgot to bring some music and bam it was
the first, 3rd, 7th, 10th, song i heard that day lol

but yea its pretty easy to avoid music now a days if you avoid certain outlets and don't really go out.

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53. "funny, the first time I heard "Happy""
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was in that Fiat commercial with Puffy. My ass was like "hmmm... catchy tune... sounds kinda like Pharrell..."

Then I did mah googles and found that it was a hit single.

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54. "First time I heard it was on spotify on one of my radio stations..."
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I dont have a station for 2015 hip hop

PROMO has his this week on spotify which has a few new rap sons but songs on it but most of that shit is turrible.

  

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58. "Y'all kind of bugging acting the song was THAT big of a hit. "
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OKP talked about it alot because it was the lastest example of the demise of hip-hop. Outside of that it was lightweight song of the summer a year or two ago.

That's really not enough to act like it's impossible for folks to not be up on it.


Like right now I am drawing a blank on the name of the dude who did the song "this is why I'm hot"


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62. "MIMS, with Junior Reid on the superior reggae remix"
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couldn't name a second song if he ever came with one.
>
>Like right now I am drawing a blank on the name of the dude
>who did the song "this is why I'm hot"
>
but yeah I basically agree with what you're saying......I couldn't give you a line off top right now from "All Gold Everything" except the part that Brono Ronson 'jacked' and 'pop the molly, I'm sweating'.

https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

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66. "In the Rap world, it was. Arguably biggest Rap song of the year"
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49. "This right here...."
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>>If I watch the BET awards I turn when the new shitty rappers come on.<<


.....is funny as hell. And yes, I know exactly what you mean. Just funny as fuck to hear it worded like that.

...on some,

Homey1: Yo Sun, why'd you leave alla sudden?......

Homey2: Shit man, ...HAD to. Dem new shitty rappers came on.
Can't even fuck widdit!



*Adds to lexicon*
Matter-fak, that might be that next shit for 2k15 anytime some dumb shit pop-off.

"How'd you lose your job Fam?"

"Dem new shitty rappers came on, Sun!"








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60. "Where is that "I can't" part?"
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He is full of himself but that is no surprise.

I am glad he got a credit on the track and it's to know he's eating. Dude was aight, better than some other cats who hang on forever and stay shitty.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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67. "Question"
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can anyone tell me of another artist getting a writing credit due to another artist "sampling" their line?

shit if this is going to the new way things go, then Ms. Wallace (Biggie's Mom) may need to holler at Jay-Z for all the lines he took

  

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69. "As said above, it's more than just "Don't believe me just watch""
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Scroll up to my post and the one above it. I'm sure this has happened a few times before. In a lot of liner notes, you'll see them list co-writers as folks who they used lines from.

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ConcreteCharlie
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78. "it doesnt pass the eye/ear/smell test to you?"
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same line, same delivery, horn riff that matches the next line ... i mean you *honestly* ain't hear that song and think "oh shit, that's the all gold everything thing?"

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80. "Babyface on Mariah's 'We Belong Together'"
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for 'I only think of you' from 'Two Occasions'.

oh, and Bobby Womack for 'If you think you're lonely now'.

those are just the first 2 examples that came to mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Belong_Together

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81. "that very special michelle k shit is similar, too. loads of precedents"
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i mean the words "very special" arent trademarked but it was clear she was doing the deborah laws thing and thus had to give her a credit.

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79. "you all do know elton john got a credit from aloe blacc, too, right?"
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he stole that "go ahead and tell everybody" shit from elton, but he paid to steal it. like nelson muntz and them in the shoplifting department at the heavenly hills mall.

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