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astralblak
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"Transphobia performance art"


  

          

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bXn1xavynj8

  

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I made it up to the dude tryin to lick the Cobra Commander mask.
Apr 24th 2015
1
keep going. I almost tapped out 3 or 4 times
Apr 24th 2015
2
      The soundtrack alone was painful. I got misophonia, man.
Apr 24th 2015
3
           I keep skippin ahead. Misanthropy has me now.
Apr 24th 2015
4
                It's crazy how the mob formed
Apr 25th 2015
9
                     I think the mob formed because of the camera
Apr 25th 2015
12
                          I have traditionally crapped on the idea of performance art
Apr 26th 2015
18
I just don't understand......
Apr 25th 2015
5
RE: I just don't understand......
Apr 25th 2015
6
because the camera was rolling
Apr 25th 2015
13
The people who physically assaulted her should be arrested.
Apr 25th 2015
7
post 9
Apr 25th 2015
10
Thing is, if it was an actual girl, it would be normal Myrtle Beach
Apr 26th 2015
19
      it is a girl, she's just tall
Apr 27th 2015
20
           That information floors me. And shymalans my whole face right now.
Apr 27th 2015
22
people are sick
Apr 25th 2015
8
I dont totally get it, but I really hate people sometimes.
Apr 25th 2015
11
I'll be honest and admit I didnt watch the whole thing...
Apr 25th 2015
14
should cut the first 8min
Apr 25th 2015
15
Definitely could have been better edited. 8 minutes tops.
Apr 27th 2015
21
those pause hiccups, or whatever they're called were driving me crazy
Apr 25th 2015
16
agreed
Apr 25th 2015
17

Doronmonkflake
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1. "I made it up to the dude tryin to lick the Cobra Commander mask."
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And then I had to tap out.


Cause Myrtle Beach has to be where the Insane Clown Posse first met.

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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astralblak
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Fri Apr-24-15 10:46 PM

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2. "keep going. I almost tapped out 3 or 4 times"
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the editing was giving me a damn headache

I rarely think any "performance art" is art, and this isn't art, but it is interesting what happens in the last three minutes of the video

  

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Doronmonkflake
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3. "The soundtrack alone was painful. I got misophonia, man."
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Fri Apr-24-15 11:02 PM by Doronmonkflake

  

          

I can't be listenin to chopped/screwed bidnis. But on your advice, I will try again.


Edit: I don't understand the ethos of publicly tryin to out people. If this person looks like a girl enough to pass, oh well. If they don't, oh well. Unless you are actively pursuing their stuff, what on Earth difference does it make to anyone else?

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Doronmonkflake
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Fri Apr-24-15 11:09 PM

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4. "I keep skippin ahead. Misanthropy has me now. "
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Was that kid tryin to run by and grope? The one who threw the water?

The Manic Street Preacher. The breathing Black stereotypes. I just...

I could see strappin balloons to my apt and floatin it away somewhere after seeing this.

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astralblak
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9. "It's crazy how the mob formed"
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White, Black, old, young, drunk, sober...

running from her like she was an axe murderer, others expression sexual desire then getting upset when being ignored, then the violence. That old white woman pushing her HARD to the ground and running away, what the fuck was that?

like I said above it don't know If I'd call it art, but it def was a great social experiment, because without all the sexual innuendo and the mask Trans people do face this level of shamming, suspicion, threat and violence

  

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PoppaGeorge
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12. "I think the mob formed because of the camera"
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>White, Black, old, young, drunk, sober...

you're following someone with a camera that's obviously there trying to draw attention to themselves is going to cause a problem like this. The camera was definitely a catalyst, and I think they knew this would be the case. Try it again without the mask and sexual gyrating and a hidden camera and see if it plays out this way.

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>running from her like she was an axe murderer, others
>expression sexual desire then getting upset when being
>ignored, then the violence. That old white woman pushing her
>HARD to the ground and running away, what the fuck was that?

I looked at that part several times, she wasn't old, I'd give her late 20's to early 30's. I'm wondering if there's any attempt being made to find her and press assault and battery charges.

>like I said above it don't know If I'd call it art, but it def
>was a great social experiment, because without all the sexual
>innuendo and the mask Trans people do face this level of
>shamming, suspicion, threat and violence

thing is, without all the sexual innuendo and the mask, many trans just blend into the crowd. There's a lot out here (especially hispanic transfolks) and some of them are so passable that unless you knew they were trans in the first place you wouldn't ever bat an eyelash. I think transmen have a much easier time blending in pre-op thanks to their facial hair and other features over transwomen.

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Doronmonkflake
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18. "I have traditionally crapped on the idea of performance art"
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Sun Apr-26-15 08:36 PM by Doronmonkflake

  

          

But this made me reexamine my position.

The mirrored mask spoke volumes to me, because it was able to reflect these people's base nature, even if they weren't willing to examine it.

And it made me think back to the installation where Marina Abramovic sat and made eye contact with people for performance art. I scoffed. After this, I thought about my own discomfort with eye contact. It occurred to me I only do it with anybody when I have a specific message to send or receive. It's how I talk to people I play music with, how I beam inside jokes to my closest people, how I read emotions, etc. Anybody making silent eye contact with me for no specific reason upsets my lizard brain because I'm expecting a message. It's uncomfortable. And then I realized that installation taught me somethin. And I got mad cause performance art is valid and I have been wrong this whole time.

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Coprolalia
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5. "I just don't understand......"
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What the fuck is wrong with people??!!?!?!?

I would hate to see if they found out it was really a man, I wonder if it would have been more violent...

But why do they care?
Why throw shit??
Why physically abuse them???
Why follow?
Why record them? She was just walking.....

Isn't there shit to do at Myrtle beach other than this??????

"Fuck this shit man"

  

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neuro_OSX
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6. "RE: I just don't understand......"
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I'm totally with you, I don't get it either. What is it that these people fear that they feel the need to be so rude, obnoxious and violent towards this person ? Religous upbringing has to be part of this abhorrent behavior.

Everyone has their phones out, hoping to record something violent I imagine.. I hate this shit, let people live, find your own thing, leave other folks alone.. FUCK!!!!!

  

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PoppaGeorge
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13. "because the camera was rolling"
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people love to make a spectacle of themselves for the camera.

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Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

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Buddy_Gilapagos
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7. "The people who physically assaulted her should be arrested. "
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But it is hard to discern what was the result of a spectacle (cobra commander mask and drunken modeling) and what was transphobia for the larger crowd who was just watching.

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astralblak
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10. "post 9 "
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Doronmonkflake
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19. "Thing is, if it was an actual girl, it would be normal Myrtle Beach"
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behavior. The times I've been down there, I saw half dressed girls posin with strange dudes wit their hip poked out. So it wasn't odd to see dude walk up and try to take a pic or touch or lick or whatever, because that's what they do down there. It's essentially Farti Gras every night.

But let there be a spectre of y-chromosomes in the mix and suddenly, they're colonial Salem.


Burn it, Lord. With heavenly fire rocks.

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J_Stew
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20. "it is a girl, she's just tall"
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not that it is relevant really

  

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Doronmonkflake
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22. "That information floors me. And shymalans my whole face right now."
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Ashy Achilles
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8. "people are sick"
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but the behavior was expected

  

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Binladen
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11. "I dont totally get it, but I really hate people sometimes. "
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legsdiamond
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14. "I'll be honest and admit I didnt watch the whole thing..."
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but I think if it was a man dressed like magic mike with a mask on he would receive similar treatment if a camera was rolling and it was obvious he wasnt going to fight back.

If yiu do shit for attention you will get attention and on a strip of road like that... it wont end well.

So... yeah. People suck.

  

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Riot
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15. "should cut the first 8min"
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Not downplaying the complete ignorance of the situation but

-Crowd is mostly teenagers
-The Non teenagers are mostly drunk
-Social media culture plus vacation town boardwalk "walk the strip" culture adds up to ppl just waiting for something to stare at

Enter 6'3" Mrs Cobra commander



The hitting, water tossing etc is obviously disgraceful



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21. "Definitely could have been better edited. 8 minutes tops. "
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It would be really hard to get most people to sit through 15 minutes of that.


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Mynoriti
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16. "those pause hiccups, or whatever they're called were driving me crazy"
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i mean maybe that was done to annoy you more, but it wasn't needed.

Human beings are the worst

  

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17. "agreed"
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