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"Compared to 20-30 years ago, how much different are kids these days?"


  

          

Speaking for like 5-11 year old kids...elementary school aged.

I don't have any, and not many of my close friends have them, although it's starting to happen now that I'm 30. I just got a Goddaughter, she's only seven months old.

How much different are they from how we (25-40 year olds) were at their age? Like...we woke up on certain days to watch cartoons early, but now they have a variety of channels that show cartoons all day. Or they can watch them on Blu Ray, or even DVR the shows they want to watch.

We had video games, and portable ones were fresh when we were young...but they can play games on pads, and even play their friends remotely if they're old enough.

Do they still not care about what they wear until they're closer to Middle School, or has that changed?

Do they understand sexuality and that people can be gay/straight? I always mention that I didn't know what gay was until 5th grade, and that I never thought it was a possible thing...I thought "Men on film" was just men making fun of women. But that was just me, a lot of other kids got it, and even used derogatory terms back then.

Do they really not play outside anymore, or is it based on the neighborhood?

How much different is the curriculum in school?

How do race relations seem to be? Growing up in L.A...we ALWAYS had that whole "everyone is a equal, no colorlines" thing going on, yet OJ and Rodney King type situations would kill that notion every time we almost believed it. Does Trayvon/Mike Brown do the same for them?

I got even more questions, but these are just a few. Anyone with kids, nephews/nieces, godkids, etc can answer.

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quiet as is kept: it ain't the kids, its the grownups
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aint that the truth.
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      can't be mad at the fruit when the source was messed up
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kids are spolied brats these days.
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elders said the same thing 20 years ago
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Man, yea kids been spoiled since forever
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      oh ok, then i'd say society has caused them to be more spoiled ie,
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kids are the same.
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^^^
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100% agreement.
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ain't sh*t changed but the technology. Kids don't play outside b/c
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Im here but I will add
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I hate that b/s too. In 2014, my son's basketball team went to
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Hmmm...how many teams in this league?
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      lol no to trophies for 2nd place then.
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wrong place.
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Everyone is a winner vs. Pee Wee Football is Do Or Die
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i really hate leagues that refuse to keep score. Sure I know WHY
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      for U6 soccer or TeeBall, who cares though?
Apr 23rd 2015
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           i guess it's different in Basketball....the kids care.
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                it's the dick coaches who win 40-2 that ruin that shit
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people confuse positive reinforcement with everyone is a winner
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Which is ironic because crime is way down from that time.
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      24 hour news cycle n/m
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           ^^ yep. We now hear about stuff seconds after they occur however
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                twitter and facebook man
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not at all. they just have different shit to do.
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a lot of kids don't play outside enough. nor have imagination enough
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they need constant stimulation from a phone or tablet
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depends on how they were raised
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All this ^^^
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lazy and entitled and it's the parents that make them feel that way
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biggest difference I have noticed is kids dont play outside anymore
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Real talk...I mightve been closed to grown before Iwent to a park. We
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      RE: Real talk...I mightve been closed to grown before Iwent to a park. W...
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RE: Compared to 20-30 years ago, how much different are kids these days?
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Parents are the ones who are really changing the game...
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Selah
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1. "quiet as is kept: it ain't the kids, its the grownups"
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kids do what they do

but as adults, somewhere it got all wonky

example: giving a teenager a phone....with a camera on it

then getting mad when they take/send nekkid picks

we would have done the same thing given the opportunity

BUT most adults had enough sense to know that if you put your hand in the dog's mouth it'll bite

WE the dumb ones

  

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7. "aint that the truth."
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16. "can't be mad at the fruit when the source was messed up"
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2. "kids are spolied brats these days."
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not sure how they were 20 years ago.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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3. "elders said the same thing 20 years ago"
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but like sepia said.. it's more so the parents.

time outs, helicopter parents, everyone gets a trophy, body armor to ride a tricycle, etc...

everyone says crime stats are down but parents are scared as shit to let their kids walk around the block.

24 hour news cycle has us scared as hell.

  

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6. "Man, yea kids been spoiled since forever"
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Cenario
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9. "oh ok, then i'd say society has caused them to be more spoiled ie, "
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instant gratification, becoming easily bored, wanting to move on to the next thing etc...but society has done the same to adults.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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4. "kids are the same."
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environments are diff. technology is diff. access is diff. if previous generations had the access, technology, etc, we'd be doing the same shit as these kids.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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13. "^^^"
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here for dis.

  

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17. "100% agreement."
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fuck you.

  

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5. "ain't sh*t changed but the technology. Kids don't play outside b/c"
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we adults believe that society is more dangerous than it was 20-25 yrs ago.


we coddle these kids too damn much as a whole.

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8. "Im here but I will add "
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Everyone is a winner mentality.

I mean in real life EVERYONE DOESNT GET A TROPHY for participating

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10. "I hate that b/s too. In 2014, my son's basketball team went to "
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the championship game and lost.


It was humiliating and funny at the same time because they received a plaque that said 2nd place on it. One of the older kids says' "I don't want this" and the other 9 (my son included) followed suit and left the plaque on the benches.

FFWD to this year, they make the championship, win the game. The other (now 2nd place) team doesn't get a plaque or anything else.


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12. "Hmmm...how many teams in this league?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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15. "12"
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18. "lol no to trophies for 2nd place then."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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14. "wrong place. "
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22. "Everyone is a winner vs. Pee Wee Football is Do Or Die "
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For young kids, i like emphasizing participation and having fun getting outside w/your friends. Stuff like working as a team and improving should be the focus. If an 8 year old kid is extra stoked because he got a 2nd place ribbon and wants to come back next year, then that doesn't really bother me. (my daughter is the type to not want it, though)

I give a f**k if my 9 year old daughter gets first vs. second. Did you try your ass off and improve? Ok. It gets different in Jr. High and on into high school, but i've seen a shit ton of kids put off from sports by their dumb parents maniacal need to win.

Don't even get me started on the youth football coaches. It seems like for every coach out there that is interested in teaching kids there's one who thinks he's the goddam next Jim Harbaugh because he played JC ball and has now decided to live vicariously through 8 year olds by making them concuss each other.

I'm more for finding the balance. I don't let my kids make excuses for not winning (work harder, do better), but in a lot of sports the focus on winning and being the best is straight dumb. Like why is a 9 year old being pressured to focus on one sport?

The culture and pressure in kids sports is ratcheted up in a lot of cases.

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30. "i really hate leagues that refuse to keep score. Sure I know WHY"
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it's done--but kids want to know the score more than the parents.

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33. "for U6 soccer or TeeBall, who cares though?"
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i mean everyone knows who won, usually. I look at these leagues more as practice and skill development. It's not like your kid can put highest batting avg. in his TeeBall league on his college application or anything.

And really in soccer if your squad has one 6 year old who knows what he's doing you can run up the score. So at that age fuck it. If that was a thing that existed for any league after 8 years old or so, i'd frown on it, but they really only do it for the little kids.

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34. "i guess it's different in Basketball....the kids care. "
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36. "it's the dick coaches who win 40-2 that ruin that shit"
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i'm not anti-keeping score by any means, but i can see why some leagues do it for the little kids. It's also kind of different for girls and boys. Boys care about that stuff waaay more at that age.

There's usually a parent on the sideline who keeps score anyway and can tell the kids after the game.

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26. "people confuse positive reinforcement with everyone is a winner"
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Positive reinforcement is great for children. I think it works much better than raising them to be afraid of you. It really does wonders for their self esteem and self motivation. But that doesnt mean everybody is a winner. Oh 5th place fantastic job! Here is a trophy and ribbon. When you do that you are not preparing them for the real world. Where 5th place is the difference between employment and unemployment. That promotion or the same shitty job and pay. Better to teach them now than for them to learn that shit at 22 when they are looking for a job.

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25. "Which is ironic because crime is way down from that time."
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28. "24 hour news cycle n/m"
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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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32. "^^ yep. We now hear about stuff seconds after they occur however"
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minor it is. 20 yrs ago, things had to be monumental to make the news or else you'd have to read it in the paper which could/would easily be missed or glossed over.

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35. "twitter and facebook man"
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a child gets abducted walking home from school in bumblefuck America on a Monday. By Tuesday the article is posted to every moms wall or timeline and all of a sudden its a national emergency. Kids are getting abducted at an alarming rate. People start pulling up articles from 4 and 5 years ago and sending those out to show how bad things are. When we were young you got news at 5pm and 10pm. If you didnt watch you got nothing. Now you get news weather you watch/read the news or not.

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11. "not at all. they just have different shit to do."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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19. "a lot of kids don't play outside enough. nor have imagination enough"
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to play on their own.

go write a story, a play, learn how to dribble a basketball

stop looking for someone else to entertain you.

now go runtelldat, ho.

  

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24. "they need constant stimulation from a phone or tablet"
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parents always shoving technology in their face to keep them occupied is ruining their imagination. Louis CK had a great bit on this. He talked about let the kids be bored and uncomfortable. Let them figure out a way to entertain themselves.

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20. "depends on how they were raised"
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you raise a kid old school...he'll still have those values. my 11 y/o nephew has a Kindle. he fucking loves that Kindle. my family recently took a 8 hour road trip and he was with us. going there....he got to use his Kindle. coming back....that Kindle was in the trunk. did he whine, or complain.....nope. he pulled out his bag of wrestlers...the SAME shit i used to do growing up. he read. he did some puzzles. he went back to sleep. the same shit we used to do. and i was so proud.

if you teach your kids not to be dependent on technology then they won't be that much different from us.
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27. "All this ^^^"
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21. "lazy and entitled and it's the parents that make them feel that way "
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i hate the everyone gets a trophy as mentioned above...
don't get me started on there is no failing of grades
and u cancel school bc it's too cold?
ru serious...
a nation of punks is what we are raising

I got a good life man

  

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23. "biggest difference I have noticed is kids dont play outside anymore"
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my son is very similar to me when I was younger. I wanted to play outside. I wanted to play with other kids. When I was growing up me and my brothers were outside all day long. Either hanging out with each other or with the 12 or so other kids on our street. My son wants to be outside playing hockey or baseball or just running around. But none of the kids on our street are ever outside. They come home from school and stay in the house. We have a park that is a 5 minute walk from my front door and nobody from our street is ever there. There are at least 10 kids between ages 3-10 that live on our half of the street and we only know 2 of them.

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31. "Real talk...I mightve been closed to grown before Iwent to a park. We"
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didn't need a designated "play ground"---the world was ours. We'd play in creeks, on hills, drainage ditches, it didn't matter.

and lord give us an open field with minimal amounts of dog sh*t and it became an arena. Football, soccer, baseball you name it. I was Bo Jackson before Bo Jackson was Bo Jackson. I played it all.

Now my son only wants to do it if it's league play.

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37. "RE: Real talk...I mightve been closed to grown before Iwent to a park. W..."
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I was lucky. I grew up on a culdesac with a bunch of kids my age. We walked to school in the morning 15 deep. The kid at the furthest end of the street would leave his house first and knock on doors on the way to the last house on the street. We got home did our home work and we were on the street playing football, basketball, baseball, riding bikes, rollerblading, tag, you name it. We even would challenge neighboring streets. During the summer when we went to the pool you knew when Denver St showed up. We took that shit over. There was a park down the street. I use that term loosely because it was a big open grass field with a giant oak tree in one corner and a picnic table and bench. So that field was ours for whatever we wanted to use it for. The cops would stop by and watch our games. Now I live in this huge housing track in one of the safest cities in the country and I see kids outside once every two weeks if that. Not to mention the amount of empty fields around here. They have city built biking trails a quarter mile away that never get used by kids. It's sad.

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29. "RE: Compared to 20-30 years ago, how much different are kids these days?"
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>Speaking for like 5-11 year old kids...elementary school
>aged.
>
>I don't have any, and not many of my close friends have them,
>although it's starting to happen now that I'm 30. I just got a
>Goddaughter, she's only seven months old.
>
>How much different are they from how we (25-40 year olds) were
>at their age? Like...we woke up on certain days to watch
>cartoons early, but now they have a variety of channels that
>show cartoons all day. Or they can watch them on Blu Ray, or
>even DVR the shows they want to watch.
>
>We had video games, and portable ones were fresh when we were
>young...but they can play games on pads, and even play their
>friends remotely if they're old enough.
>
>Do they still not care about what they wear until they're
>closer to Middle School, or has that changed?

Most of our elementary/middle public schools have uniforms. Everyone's jeans/pants have gotten tighter tho lol.

>Do they understand sexuality and that people can be
>gay/straight?

There's still a negative connotation to being "gay" which at their age means boys that arent stereotypically boyish & girls that arent stereotypically girlish. In high school, I came across kids that were out & a couple trans girls. The bi/gay boys tended to be popular but still made fun of while the trans girls were straight up harassed by guys & not very popular.

I always mention that I didn't know what gay was
>until 5th grade, and that I never thought it was a possible
>thing...I thought "Men on film" was just men making fun of
>women. But that was just me, a lot of other kids got it, and
>even used derogatory terms back then.
>
>Do they really not play outside anymore, or is it based on the
>neighborhood?

I live in pretty safe white area so there's a lot of playing outside but that's even the case in the projects. Like, our poor areas aren't super dangerous.

>How much different is the curriculum in school?

Common core (NOT a curriculum but still) got folks mad. A lot of teaching to the test but in the humanities there is an effort to add more POC authors/perspectives.

>How do race relations seem to be? Growing up in L.A...we
>ALWAYS had that whole "everyone is a equal, no colorlines"
>thing going on, yet OJ and Rodney King type situations would
>kill that notion every time we almost believed it. Does
>Trayvon/Mike Brown do the same for them?

I think the whole colorblind/multicultural thing is still ruining too many of them. They think it's cool/cute for their non-black friends to tell racist jokes/use nigga. They think b/c we have a Black president & Black people dominate music & television that we've overcome. I once had a group of Black kids tell me I was being racist b/c I described Rue (the character in the Hunger Games novels) as "Black" & not African-American. I just had to blink & breathe through it lol.
My little cousins/nieces & nephews know what's up tho; we make sure of it lol.


>I got even more questions, but these are just a few. Anyone
>with kids, nephews/nieces, godkids, etc can answer.

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38. "Parents are the ones who are really changing the game..."
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Kids today don't just go outside and spend all day outside playing...they get put into all types of programs, join teams...etc. They are busy as hell. There's no "go outside until the street light come on" going on for most kids.

Also, most kids aren't being raised as independent as they used to be. There were more kids taking city buses and the subway on their own back in the day. Not as much of that going on today.

Parents really changed all that...not the kids. Kids are mostly different because they are exposed to more information earlier. They're online and using smart phones and shit so they get exposed to certain things much sooner. I guess the things i mentioned above are a byproduct of that.

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