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bwood
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"True Detective Season Two"
Thu Apr-09-15 01:18 PM by bwood

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OfU7CGY5DQ

Can't wait to read the absolutely wrong theories and think pieces for this season.

Plot for this season according to the press release:

"A bizarre murder brings together three law-enforcement officers and a career criminal, each of whom must navigate a web of conspiracy and betrayal in the scorched landscapes of California. Colin Farrell is Ray Velcoro, a compromised detective in the all-industrial City of Vinci, LA County. Vince Vaughn plays Frank Semyon, a criminal and entrepreneur in danger of losing his life’s work, while his wife and closest ally (Kelly Reilly), struggles with his choices and her own. Rachel McAdams is Ani Bezzerides, a Ventura County Sheriff’s detective often at odds with the system she serves, while Taylor Kitsch plays Paul Woodrugh, a war veteran and motorcycle cop for the California Highway Patrol who discovers a crime scene which triggers an investigation involving three law enforcement groups, multiple criminal collusions, and billions of dollars."

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Coo. I hope Nic Pizzolatto shuts the fuzz up...
Apr 09th 2015
1
I saw a insane theory already on Twitter about Colin's mustache.
Apr 09th 2015
2
i love the cast....that all i can say
Apr 09th 2015
3
Surprised they are putting it in summer.This is def. a winter show, lol
Apr 09th 2015
4
really excited to see how Vaughn plays a dramatic role vs. comedy.
Apr 09th 2015
5
Naw Colin Ferrell can act. Dude is nice. Or am I thinking Jude Law?
Apr 09th 2015
6
      They both get busy when they want to....
Jun 22nd 2015
16
I'm not sure I'm interested.
Apr 09th 2015
7
RE: True Detective Season Two
Apr 09th 2015
8
I'm all in.
Apr 09th 2015
9
im not sold just yet
Apr 09th 2015
10
It's back TONIGHT!!! Gonna watch it later tonight. 2 new trailers below
Jun 21st 2015
11
Cautiously optimistic*, Rachel mcadams has the best chops of that lot
Jun 21st 2015
12
i hate vince vaughan.
Jun 21st 2015
13
^^^^close to this for me too
Jun 21st 2015
14
Yea, I don't know about this season b...
Jun 21st 2015
15
the premiere ep actually won me over
Jun 22nd 2015
17
It won me over and I agree with everything you said
Jun 22nd 2015
23
same.
Jun 22nd 2015
24
Yea I get all that, but it was a fucking slog b.
Jun 22nd 2015
27
lol, the pace was awesome. Great first episode
Jun 22nd 2015
36
      It was slow for me and few others b.
Jun 22nd 2015
37
agreed on all that
Jun 22nd 2015
29
1st ep of season 2>1st ep of season 1
Jun 22nd 2015
18
I liked it very much.
Jun 22nd 2015
19
was aiight
Jun 22nd 2015
20
That was pretty bad
Jun 22nd 2015
21
i'm giving it time.
Jun 22nd 2015
22
I really enjoyed the season premiere a lot
Jun 22nd 2015
25
It looked like to me
Jun 23rd 2015
49
I just hope this season has a better ending than last season
Jun 22nd 2015
26
i was more intrigued from this one than the last season opener
Jun 22nd 2015
28
It had a more engaging pace than the S1 opener.
Jun 22nd 2015
30
1st season was slow as shit.
Jun 22nd 2015
34
yeah i fell asleep on the s1 premiere twice, making it to the
Jun 22nd 2015
38
The mixed reviews are polar opposites.. WOW!
Jun 22nd 2015
31
what else would mixed reviews be but opposites?
Jun 22nd 2015
39
Mixed reviews are not as extreme as they are in here. This is OKP
Jun 24th 2015
58
lol, you be typing stuff
Jun 23rd 2015
47
      I be Chopping these Post Up!
Jun 24th 2015
59
I'll wait till ya'll get excited in episode 5, just like last season
Jun 22nd 2015
32
why didn't Tim Riggins just pop the...
Jun 22nd 2015
33
I sympathized with him the most cause shorty was bad as hell.
Jun 22nd 2015
35
Oh I didnt know that wasTim Riggins, lol
Jun 24th 2015
57
I hate the using a fake county.
Jun 22nd 2015
40
I like how people keep forgetting how well liked Woody/McConaughey
Jun 22nd 2015
41
Season 3 should be True Detective: Westeros
Jun 22nd 2015
42
lol
Jun 22nd 2015
43
Fam. Yes.
Jun 22nd 2015
44
Season 4 should be True Detective: Essos
Jun 22nd 2015
45
^^^
Jun 23rd 2015
46
I thought McConaughey was getting panned as an actor
Jun 23rd 2015
50
really?? " A Time To Kill" instantly comes to mind
Jun 26th 2015
61
they might need to just have them play different characters
Jul 06th 2015
89
I knew that couldnt have been his son
Jun 23rd 2015
48
the kid is a product of rape of his wife/gf.
Jun 24th 2015
55
      I know. I was saying that at the beginning of the episode though
Jun 24th 2015
60
           suprise...nope
Aug 12th 2015
233
I'm watching now and it seems like the Creator has a Bron complex
Jun 23rd 2015
51
Vince Vaughn looks like he is in the wrong movie. I don't get it, is he ...
Jun 23rd 2015
52
gangsters can't shoot blanks?
Jun 23rd 2015
53
i actually think vaughn is one of the stronger leads so far
Jun 24th 2015
56
      RE: i actually think vaughn is one of the stronger leads so far
Jun 26th 2015
62
      actors can only be so good w tepid direction
Jul 20th 2015
140
      iono if i can rock w this anymore either
Jul 20th 2015
141
inferior, still enjoyable. directorial choices less inventive
Jun 24th 2015
54
halfway in i'm downgrading this a little bit
Jul 20th 2015
139
Yo! Tonight's episode was miles better.
Jun 28th 2015
63
Yeah shit was beastly. I love this show.
Jun 28th 2015
64
Well damn, that last five minutes had my heart racing
Jun 29th 2015
65
I am not buying Vince Vaughns Gangster. Unless he is suppose to
Jun 29th 2015
66
Worst casting ever.
Jun 29th 2015
67
i got him being legit crazy/psychotic...but keeps it underwraps
Jun 29th 2015
70
See I don't get that at all. His character would make sense if he were
Jun 29th 2015
71
bias...because he is killing this shit
Jul 13th 2015
106
I almost feel like episode 1 was unnecessary
Jun 29th 2015
68
That was actually the most natural he looked in the piece.
Jun 29th 2015
72
Agree 100%. Episode 2 should've been the premiere episode. nm
Jun 29th 2015
76
^^^ I felt the same way watching episode 2, the montage of episode 1
Jul 06th 2015
93
I'm annoyed this isn't airing in winter like Season 1
Jun 29th 2015
69
it was the best thing to keep ppl watching HBO after GoT ended
Jun 29th 2015
73
So that mystical high falutin talk just wasn't McConaughey's character?
Jun 29th 2015
74
who are you talking about?
Jul 13th 2015
107
so they just killed off their most interesting--
Jun 29th 2015
75
no way dude is dead. He got that Dick Cheney buckshot treatment
Jun 30th 2015
78
      spoiler:
Jun 30th 2015
79
All the Vince V. side eye in this post....
Jun 30th 2015
77
Vince went full gangster tonight.
Jul 05th 2015
80
his right hand man looks crazy as fuck
Jul 05th 2015
81
he looks like he waiting to wild out.
Jul 05th 2015
82
I buy Vince now but that pliers bit was so random.
Jul 06th 2015
83
      yeah i like how dude was just ready to hand them over lol
Jul 06th 2015
88
I like it, but with this caveat:
Jul 06th 2015
84
vince vaughn terrible. lol @ that fight scene.
Jul 06th 2015
85
That ninja said, ""prefiguring Caspere, in a causal sense."
Jul 06th 2015
86
I do like this show when it gets weird.
Jul 06th 2015
87
agreed.
Jul 06th 2015
90
eh
Jul 06th 2015
91
Official verdict IMO, they're trying TOO HARD!
Jul 06th 2015
92
Agreed--
Jul 06th 2015
94
Yeah...
Jul 13th 2015
102
On top of what you said
Jul 13th 2015
103
      ^^^
Jul 13th 2015
104
OH CMON!
Jul 06th 2015
95
I love how this show makes yall niggas cry.
Jul 06th 2015
96
Dawg that fucking shootout!!!
Jul 12th 2015
97
RE: Dawg that fucking shootout!!!
Jul 13th 2015
99
so may headshots/killshots...that was wild
Jul 13th 2015
101
!!! This season has more action/shit hitting the fan moments
Jul 13th 2015
105
Dawg who the fuck WALKS to a raid?
Jul 13th 2015
110
      that happens a lot actually
Jul 13th 2015
111
      fam, I mean literally walking
Jul 13th 2015
114
           RE: fam, I mean literally walking
Jul 13th 2015
119
                I ain't never scene a raid that casual tho
Jul 14th 2015
122
                lol, they convened so far away...
Jul 14th 2015
125
                yep, the biggest show flaw in that was rachel's gun tilt
Jul 14th 2015
123
                Mole...
Jul 14th 2015
132
      RE: Dawg who the fuck WALKS to a raid?
Jul 13th 2015
112
      talk about doing too much... lol
Jul 13th 2015
116
      had to come back and eat that crow.
Jul 14th 2015
121
      remember the guy question whether they needed that many people?
Jul 14th 2015
126
The occult undertones are even less apparent as they were in Season 1
Jul 12th 2015
98
why cant they flirt with it and do it justice?
Jul 13th 2015
100
      yep, although i think the plot is primary this time
Jul 13th 2015
108
people that had problems with the fight scene?
Jul 13th 2015
109
that was a great fight scene, people watch too many movies with
Jul 13th 2015
117
agree w/ this
Jul 14th 2015
130
i gotta re-watch the last 2 eps because i'm confused as to where
Jul 13th 2015
113
the mexican is who they caught on camera
Jul 13th 2015
115
      im still lost to his relevance to the casper murder. I did fall asleep i...
Jul 14th 2015
120
      so far...
Jul 14th 2015
124
      remind me...what car is this that was stolen?
Jul 14th 2015
128
           the one for the movie production company
Jul 14th 2015
129
                gotcha...yeah i didn't catch any of this lol
Jul 14th 2015
134
                Ok thanks. But what pawned jewels? Were they stolen out of Casper's
Jul 14th 2015
135
Not a fan of this season. The shootout was CRAZY.
Jul 13th 2015
118
I thought it was just me. I was like "why is everyone whispering??"
Jul 14th 2015
127
apparently the whispering is the GOOD part of the show..
Jul 14th 2015
131
Watching the shootout now. I like the whole package.
Jul 14th 2015
133
i keep trying but i'm not liking this season
Jul 14th 2015
136
I'm pretty sure no one is making it out okay this season
Jul 19th 2015
137
RE: I'm pretty sure no one is making it out okay this season
Jul 19th 2015
138
Vox sees it...and says it better too (link)
Jul 20th 2015
142
turn the channel
Jul 20th 2015
143
      if only there was an analogy for a message board reply that I could reto...
Jul 20th 2015
145
           Same can be said for the first season *shrugs*
Jul 26th 2015
147
hanging in
Jul 20th 2015
144
I felt really bad for Ray tonight. The music and hallucinations in that ...
Jul 26th 2015
146
a real gangster would go ham
Jul 27th 2015
149
      I was thinking the same thing b.
Jul 27th 2015
151
      would've been dumb to do something at that moment
Jul 27th 2015
152
           The real gangsta move would be to turn Confidential Informer
Jul 27th 2015
154
           Right, attempting to "show his strength" would've gotten him killed.
Jul 27th 2015
157
Good one....
Jul 27th 2015
148
We hallucinating off MDMA now?
Jul 27th 2015
150
yeah i would get it if it was laced but...
Jul 27th 2015
155
If she was in a high-stress environment with a fucked-up past...
Jul 27th 2015
156
      RE: If she was in a high-stress environment with a fucked-up past...
Jul 27th 2015
158
what kinda 70s tv movie score was that though?
Jul 27th 2015
153
Colin, Vince, the setting are clearly the shows strengths.
Jul 27th 2015
159
RE: Colin, Vince, the setting are clearly the shows strengths.
Jul 27th 2015
160
I'm putting a lot of that on the dialogue being bad.
Jul 27th 2015
161
      RE: I'm putting a lot of that on the dialogue being bad.
Jul 27th 2015
163
Not liking McAdams? I thought she killed it last night
Jul 27th 2015
162
I think her and Colin have been the best
Jul 27th 2015
165
i agree...their the only 2 characters that grab my attn
Jul 31st 2015
171
yeah i dont get any McAdams hate...
Jul 27th 2015
166
I don't think she has much to work with. Her character is just silly.
Jul 27th 2015
167
Vince being a strength is a horrible thing
Jul 27th 2015
164
      Who said it was his best work ever?
Jul 27th 2015
168
           You aiming for...
Jul 27th 2015
169
Marty watches season two of True Detective.
Jul 31st 2015
170
genius
Jul 31st 2015
172
awesome
Jul 31st 2015
173
outstanding
Jul 31st 2015
174
I'm a fan of this season, but that's funny as fuck
Jul 31st 2015
175
Absolutely brilliant.
Jul 31st 2015
176
lol
Jul 31st 2015
177
lol
Jul 31st 2015
178
Brilliant
Aug 11th 2015
231
Damn. Just damn. I knew ole boy was gonna get mirked...
Aug 02nd 2015
179
RE: Damn. Just damn. I knew ole boy was gonna get mirked...
Aug 02nd 2015
180
RE:
Aug 02nd 2015
181
Knew that was gonna happen, but hoped it wouldn't
Aug 03rd 2015
184
      Homie wasn't in the preview for next week though.
Aug 03rd 2015
185
      wasn't the second bullet a headshot?
Aug 03rd 2015
186
           Yeah he's dead. And this bothered me as well
Aug 03rd 2015
189
           Im guessing there were more people there than the one dude
Aug 03rd 2015
190
                eh...i dunno
Aug 03rd 2015
197
Was I supposed to give a fuck about him? I felt zero connection
Aug 02nd 2015
182
I did like how they handled the end of his relationship with that guy.
Aug 03rd 2015
183
Better than the first season, which was more style than substance imho
Aug 03rd 2015
187
0_0
Aug 03rd 2015
188
      *drags gums away*
Aug 03rd 2015
191
      lol
Aug 03rd 2015
194
      The female characters have more depth, and I find the storyline more
Aug 03rd 2015
193
           i...
Aug 03rd 2015
198
better
Aug 03rd 2015
192
all that build up about his confict though...
Aug 03rd 2015
195
      agreed
Aug 03rd 2015
196
I'll be the first to admit that was disappointing
Aug 09th 2015
199
Yeah i was expecting more from an 1.5 episode.
Aug 09th 2015
201
Good ending. I dug it.
Aug 09th 2015
200
RE: Good ending. I dug it.
Aug 09th 2015
202
terrible writing on this show.
Aug 09th 2015
203
This confirms it pizzolatto is a crap ass writer
Aug 09th 2015
204
He really is though. I wondered how a first time writer
Aug 10th 2015
206
      fukunaga, woody and matthew covered his ass
Aug 10th 2015
209
           Something else to consider
Aug 10th 2015
210
                he gets zero leeway
Aug 10th 2015
211
                     I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any blame for this season.
Aug 10th 2015
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                     not true Fresh
Aug 11th 2015
225
loved it, easily best episode of the season.
Aug 10th 2015
205
agree with everything here
Aug 10th 2015
207
I'm bitter I watched that to the end. Was not worth it.
Aug 10th 2015
208
I think the worst thing is dude still hasn't figured out writing women
Aug 10th 2015
212
...
Aug 10th 2015
213
I have a question for someone who reads a lot of Noir?
Aug 10th 2015
214
mrhood75
Aug 10th 2015
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ultimately, this season/story was just "okay."
Aug 10th 2015
217
I keep thinking that there are soo many better shows that don't get the
Aug 10th 2015
219
      true but it mostly got attention cause of season 1
Aug 10th 2015
221
      which shows?
Aug 10th 2015
222
           Justified and 'The Americans' comes to mind
Aug 10th 2015
223
this might be THEE most clichéd ending for a series i've ever seen...
Aug 10th 2015
218
i wonder if the backlash from season 1s ending factored in...
Aug 10th 2015
220
I was thinking the same thing. He went the traditional noir route...
Aug 10th 2015
224
right, the fact that the mexicans weren't taking dirt naps already...
Aug 11th 2015
226
dude went the Sutter route -30 extra minutes we didn't need...lol
Aug 12th 2015
234
it definitely seemed like it.
Aug 12th 2015
232
I see the critiques of him as a writer
Aug 11th 2015
227
That Scooby Doo shit with all the clues at the house was the worst
Aug 11th 2015
228
I'm laughing hard right now
Aug 11th 2015
229
Lmao so on point
Aug 11th 2015
230

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1. "Coo. I hope Nic Pizzolatto shuts the fuzz up..."
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and not overexplain the show and we can just watch it and enjoy it so folks aren't looking for yellow crowns in the background.


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bwood
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2. "I saw a insane theory already on Twitter about Colin's mustache."
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We already in the zone...

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3. "i love the cast....that all i can say "
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cant wait though

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Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
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4. "Surprised they are putting it in summer.This is def. a winter show, lol"
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OfU7CGY5DQ
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>Can't wait to read the absolutely wrong theories and think
>pieces for this season.
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5. "really excited to see how Vaughn plays a dramatic role vs. comedy."
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also interested to see if Colin Ferrell, who has limited acting chops IMO, can put together a strong performance.

  

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6. "Naw Colin Ferrell can act. Dude is nice. Or am I thinking Jude Law?"
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One of those pretty boys who always gets discounted because of their looks is actually a strong actor. I forget which one.

Nevermind.


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16. "They both get busy when they want to...."
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7. "I'm not sure I'm interested."
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8. "RE: True Detective Season Two"
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I'm there...

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9. "I'm all in. "
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10. "im not sold just yet"
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but i'm peeping regardless bc i liked last season a lot

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11. "It's back TONIGHT!!! Gonna watch it later tonight. 2 new trailers below"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYBMqqKYq78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFC3ec1tI0Q

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12. "Cautiously optimistic*, Rachel mcadams has the best chops of that lot"
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But compared to mcconaughey and harrelson I'm not sure these guys can measure up


*who am I'm kidding I'm still geeked as shit for this season

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13. "i hate vince vaughan. "
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i dont think ill be able to sit through this season looking at his face.

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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14. "^^^^close to this for me too"
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stand ur ground, believe in urself,
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bwood
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15. "Yea, I don't know about this season b..."
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The first episode of last season pulled me in right away. Rust & Marty jumped right into the investigation and we got to know them as we went along. Watching those two bounce off each other was great as we headed unto the darkness and layers start to come off in their personal lives and the case itself.

Here I got the point of it in the first fifteen minutes that these are broken, fucked up people and wanted the story to start after a while which it didn't until the last two minuted. I felt I was being beat over the head and preached at at the same time.

And next week's doesn't look to get any better...

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17. "the premiere ep actually won me over"
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the case was presented throughout the ep turning from missing person into official murder and all the different detectives were intro'd with them finally being brought together at the end. we got to see how diffucult this mystery might be considering how messed up the detectives are as ppl

they couldnt (and shouldnt have) done it the same way they did last season because they want to give something relatively fresh this season

i was fine with it and looking forward to the rest of the season

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23. "It won me over and I agree with everything you said"
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24. "same."
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27. "Yea I get all that, but it was a fucking slog b."
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Cats who love noir stuff like me said they had a hard time getting through it as well.

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36. "lol, the pace was awesome. Great first episode"
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I'm trying to imagine the complaints with the first episode.

too much action?
Not enough still shots?
People doing shit?

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37. "It was slow for me and few others b."
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It took too long to get going in my opinion and watching it again, I realize that's due to having four main characters (five if you include Kelly Reilly who plays the wife) and tying them into this kidnapping that became a murder.

Honestly I feel like this was too unweildly, but I'm interested now in seeing how they all tie together and where they end up.

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29. "agreed on all that"
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>the case was presented throughout the ep turning from missing
>person into official murder and all the different detectives
>were intro'd with them finally being brought together at the
>end. we got to see how diffucult this mystery might be
>considering how messed up the detectives are as ppl
>
>they couldnt (and shouldnt have) done it the same way they did
>last season because they want to give something relatively
>fresh this season
>
>i was fine with it and looking forward to the rest of the
>season

  

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18. "1st ep of season 2>1st ep of season 1"
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19. "I liked it very much."
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It shared a lot of DNA with Chinatown and L.A. Confidential.

It's not going to be 'The Adventures of Rusty Cohl and the Kingdom of Carcosa!'

It looks like it's going to be a deep dark bloody noir in a rust-collared shithole in California nobody gives a damn about.

Four toxic lives circling the drain around a murder no one gives a shit about.

Or does it?

The biggest and only misstep is that the first season had sympathetic victims. I don't think this one is going to let the audience be that lucky, and that's going to impact viewership.

But I'm down for episode two.

I wanted the show to keep going.

  

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20. "was aiight"
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21. "That was pretty bad"
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I knew the old dead guy in the car was Caspar

not much of a cliff hanger really

but the acting

the acting just didn't translate like season 1

maybe it was the interview nature of season 1

that relied more on the actors

but I'm pretty much not buying any of the actors in their roles

Vince as a gangster reminds of him in Starsky and Hutch

Rachel McAdams character should be a lesbian

the motorcycle dude is just not a good actor.

Colin as a cop <-- seen it.

maybe they're trying too much with developing 4 characters

BEFORE THE PLOT IS FULLY DEVELOPED

just didn't have the impact that season 1 did.

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22. "i'm giving it time."
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it didn't smash the way season 1 did, but i think by episode 3 or 4 this will be REALLY good.

i think that people that LOVED the whole cryptic, mega-mystery steeze of season 1 and want that to be repeated, are going to be wildly disappointed and may want to check out now.

i've heard from multiple outlets that have seen the first 3 eps and they all say this is a much more straightforward cop show this season, but that it's pretty well done and ends up being really enjoyable.

  

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25. "I really enjoyed the season premiere a lot"
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While this season premiere was very different than season 1, I found it to be equally good.

One quick question, was the waitress at the bar with the cut up face the missing sister that we learned about earlier when Elvis and Antigone were serving the eviction notice?

  

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49. "It looked like to me"
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Like Missing sister was
motorcycle cops Bae

  

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26. "I just hope this season has a better ending than last season"
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I loved the first season of True Detective but the ending was a major let down.

  

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28. "i was more intrigued from this one than the last season opener"
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it took a while for last season to pull me in. McConaughey's acting carried it for me until I was interested around episode 3 or 4. This one grabbed me right away.

  

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30. "It had a more engaging pace than the S1 opener. "
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I liked the slow burn feel of the first season, but it was rough for a couple of people I tried to recommend it to. So, that aspect was better...well, maybe not better, but different. I'm in enough to see where this season is going.

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34. "1st season was slow as shit."
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38. "yeah i fell asleep on the s1 premiere twice, making it to the "
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end of that first ep is what saved it for me and had me wanting more

I think the writers know they don't have the talent acting wise they had last season and are trying to grab ppl early on

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31. "The mixed reviews are polar opposites.. WOW!"
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.
.
.
"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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39. "what else would mixed reviews be but opposites?"
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...

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58. "Mixed reviews are not as extreme as they are in here. This is OKP"
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.
.
.
"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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47. "lol, you be typing stuff"
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59. "I be Chopping these Post Up!"
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.
.
.
"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

  

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32. "I'll wait till ya'll get excited in episode 5, just like last season"
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and almost every other tv show out now. although i am excited about "mr. robot" and I enjoyed the first episode because it reminds me of my girlfriends brother

  

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33. "why didn't Tim Riggins just pop the..."
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Viagra on the way over to her house?

but damn if you're straight, and you need a pill for her you got some problems.

  

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35. "I sympathized with him the most cause shorty was bad as hell. "
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57. "Oh I didnt know that wasTim Riggins, lol"
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>Viagra on the way over to her house?
>
>but damn if you're straight, and you need a pill for her you
>got some problems.

  

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40. "I hate the using a fake county."
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41. "I like how people keep forgetting how well liked Woody/McConaughey"
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are...like as great as they are as actors, those 2 together is hard to dislike. These guys could be doing the voices for the new Peanuts movie and people would over analyze it LOL

Season 2 and beyond will always be hard to find a pairing that could even come close to the acting/chemistry those 2 guys have. I can listen to a 3 hours podcast of those 2 guys talking about mashed potatoes.

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42. "Season 3 should be True Detective: Westeros"
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with Jaime and Bronn

  

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43. "lol"
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44. "Fam. Yes. "
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45. "Season 4 should be True Detective: Essos "
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With Tyrion and Varys

  

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46. "^^^"
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I think the writers were trying to prove the content is so good they could have less talented actors and still produce an awesome show

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50. "I thought McConaughey was getting panned as an actor"
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because all he was doing was rom coms

before his 2013-14 run

I don't remember him being heralded for his acting performances before then

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61. "really?? " A Time To Kill" instantly comes to mind"
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i always thought he did rom coms cause it's a bgger genre with constant gigs...

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89. "they might need to just have them play different characters"
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throughout the series run

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48. "I knew that couldnt have been his son"
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55. "the kid is a product of rape of his wife/gf."
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60. "I know. I was saying that at the beginning of the episode though"
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>before it was explained he was a child of rape etc

  

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233. "suprise...nope"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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51. "I'm watching now and it seems like the Creator has a Bron complex"
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Like he can have any scrubs on his team and still win (through gritty writing, eerie scenery/music, and chilling camera angles). I'll be surprised if Vince Vaughn pulls this off.

  

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52. "Vince Vaughn looks like he is in the wrong movie. I don't get it, is he ..."
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to be a gangsta talking about IVF?


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53. "gangsters can't shoot blanks? "
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56. "i actually think vaughn is one of the stronger leads so far"
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with the exception of the laughably corny "casper!" glass-throwing moment of anger, for which director and writer deserve equal credit, i like him

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62. "RE: i actually think vaughn is one of the stronger leads so far"
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>with the exception of the laughably corny "casper!"
>glass-throwing moment of anger, for which director and writer
>deserve equal credit, i like him

YES ans YES....i watched that scene like "please don't do ANYTHING destructive"....really corny...

...in fact, the scene in the bar with Farell, was really great from him, as was EVERY scene except the one with the glass

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140. "actors can only be so good w tepid direction"
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n/m

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141. "iono if i can rock w this anymore either"
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acting is flat across the board, farrel is the only lead really doing anything special at this point imo

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54. "inferior, still enjoyable. directorial choices less inventive"
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s1 copycat choices screamingly obvious and less effective

acting down a half notch, but i mean who can fault that

still fun overall, i'll be watching faithfully

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139. "halfway in i'm downgrading this a little bit"
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i have a feeling when it's all done it will be a serious piece of work when binge watched as a long film. a piece worth watching, with some meat on it

but as a series it's just not working. i can't say i dislike it, because i recognize it's quality

but i can't say i think it's great

in fact i think it has some big flaws

just the right side of interesting, but not enough, and just the wrong side of boring, but not too much

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63. "Yo! Tonight's episode was miles better."
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Not a dull moment.

And that cliffhanger is crazy. I'd actually liked it more if they pulled a Game Of Thrones and ole boy was marked.

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64. "Yeah shit was beastly. I love this show. "
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65. "Well damn, that last five minutes had my heart racing "
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66. "I am not buying Vince Vaughns Gangster. Unless he is suppose to "
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be soft. Still his character isn't coming together for me.



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67. "Worst casting ever."
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I keep waiting for him to tell a joke. Can't tell if he's serious in all these scenes.

  

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70. "i got him being legit crazy/psychotic...but keeps it underwraps"
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71. "See I don't get that at all. His character would make sense if he were"
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this fierce thug who is trying his best to go legit and he himself gets suckered and is feeling the pull back in.

But he just comes off as Old School Vince Vaughn trying to act really seriously.


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106. "bias...because he is killing this shit"
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ambient1 below is spot-fucking on

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68. "I almost feel like episode 1 was unnecessary "
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All the relationships and personal damage were laid out so much better this episode -- implied, not explicit.

This thing has James Ellroy's dick-prints all over, by the way. It feels way too much like "Black Dahlia" (the book, not the abortion they called a 'film adaptation').

I like it a lot. This part of California feels cancerous, metastasizing. The beauty is just stripped the fuck out of it, and at night, it looks like Blade Runner's retarded step-brother. It's this vast ugly sprawling thing with these terminally damaged little bastards running around, wrestling with their ruinous families and amputated sex lives.

Vince Vaughan isn't terrible. I think he shined best not when he was talking about his nightmares -- which was a great monolog, by the way -- but when he ran up to that guy and fast-talked him after the beat-down. That's the Vince Vaughan I could believably accept clawed his way to the top of a rusted shit-heap. The suit and tie thing feels totally awkward.

  

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72. "That was actually the most natural he looked in the piece. "
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but when he ran up to that guy and
>fast-talked him after the beat-down. That's the Vince Vaughan
>I could believably accept clawed his way to the top of a
>rusted shit-heap. The suit and tie thing feels totally
>awkward.




I will admit that they have done a cool job with the landscape though.


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76. "Agree 100%. Episode 2 should've been the premiere episode. nm"
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93. "^^^ I felt the same way watching episode 2, the montage of episode 1"
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was really all that was needed

and it would be a cool nuance for a show really

never air espisode 1

give a glimpse of the ENTIRE backstory, ala the opening credits for episode 2

we can pretty much fill in the rest based on the following episodes

and for those who can't, or just want confirmation

you build a demand for 'lost tapes'

but yeah, episode 1 felt like a group meeting with name tags

hi, my name is (c)

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69. "I'm annoyed this isn't airing in winter like Season 1"
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it seemed to fit better then than summer viewing. Plus, it filled a gap for me once football season ended.

Streets won't let me chill.

  

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73. "it was the best thing to keep ppl watching HBO after GoT ended"
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no other show the have right now is "event" tv, GoT and TruDetec are the only two currently

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74. "So that mystical high falutin talk just wasn't McConaughey's character?"
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I think that's kind of disappointing to find out with regards to Nic Pizzolatto as a writer.

I dig it a bit as a stylistic choice and It was perfect for McConaughey but it wears a bit thin when you have everyone talking that way.



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107. "who are you talking about?"
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almost all the characters in this season don't do that...

vince has a few dope monologues but he's also the most high-achieving out of them...he's an extremely complex and intelligent alpha with a past so flea-ridden...it's gotta lead to some of that

but other than him...who are u talking about?

cause everyone else is pretty straightforward and simple

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75. "so they just killed off their most interesting--"
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character

gotta say im not looking forward to this show with the other two as the lead detectives

  

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78. "no way dude is dead. He got that Dick Cheney buckshot treatment"
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you don't shoot a guy with a shotgun that close without guts and blood everywhere unless it was a hunting rifle.

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79. "spoiler:"
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http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--oPSvjP-X--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/1318087947975668883.jpg

  

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77. "All the Vince V. side eye in this post...."
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I get it if we are talking about his most recent film releases....But I think dude has been better than expected so far on True Detective...Especially in the second episode (that bedroom scene where he was talking to his old lady about the abuse he went through as a kid was quite heavy....)

Overall I'm digging this installment of True Detective....That last episode had me STUCK....That was some bold shit....

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80. "Vince went full gangster tonight."
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Shit is coming to a head so quickly.

The bosses are only interested in taking out each other instead of solving case.

This is pitch black noir. These past two episodes have been top notch b.

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81. "his right hand man looks crazy as fuck"
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the "it's not my department" guy

  

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82. "he looks like he waiting to wild out."
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He's barely controllable to me.

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83. "I buy Vince now but that pliers bit was so random."
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just the editing of it. like it came out of a Funny or Die skit paying homage to weird 80s action movie scenes. just holding his hand out like "pliers guy, you're needed."


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88. "yeah i like how dude was just ready to hand them over lol"
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the way they squared up though felt like it was out of an old Knight Rider episode...i was hoping he would just go off on dude and destroy him out of the blue. Not say "uhhh put 'em up see...put 'em up!"

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84. "I like it, but with this caveat:"
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The story and characters feel like they're lifted directly from James Ellroy's 'Black Dahlia'.

Taylor Kitsch's whole closeted homophobe shtick, the dirty cop seeking redemption, the tightly wound detective just looking to pop off.

I like it.

I like the show a lot.

California is this sepia-tinted, rusting suburban nightmare; the characters are all incredibly, horribly burnt shells of human beings; and the crooks seem a lot more competent than the cops. I like the acting, and seeing Collin Farell occupy this wrecked shell of a man is great. And Vince Vaughn is good -- I don't care what anyone says, he conveys so much ontological angst and self-doubt, I almost want to hug the poor bastard. Part of him really doesn't believe anything around him is real, that he's still trapped in that basement. And that last scene where he walks home with a pocket full of teeth, and looks out the corner of his eye at his wife, who he's not quite sure he can trust -- if she's even really there at all -- was good. Better, even, then when he goes in with the pliers.

But I kind of hate that I feel like he pickpocketed James Elroy's characters.

I'm still all in.

But now I have reservations.

  

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85. "vince vaughn terrible. lol @ that fight scene."
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86. "That ninja said, ""prefiguring Caspere, in a causal sense." "
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That ain't Vince's fault. Gangsta's dropping dialogue like that will make anyone seem misplaced.

The fight seen was goofy though. As the scene was set up I was like "Ok, here is the chance to see how VV works as a bawse".

If he pulled out a gun and just casually murked him I think I could have bought that.

The fight and the dude handing him the plyers like they had practice that ish was goofy.


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87. "I do like this show when it gets weird. "
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Opening sequence in the lounge with the singer??!? Salute David Lynch.

The visit to the Mayor's mansion? Awesome sauce.

I've never seen Gotham, but this is exactly what I imagine a corrupt ass Gotham City Mayor to be like. Like crooked ass shit and not even hiding it.

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90. "agreed."
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it's growing on me more and more each week.


  

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91. "eh"
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92. "Official verdict IMO, they're trying TOO HARD!"
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there's just WAY WAY WAY TOO much going on with the storyline

the homosexual blackwater op turned cop struggling with his identity back home

rinse wash and repeat for the female lead detective struggling with her female identity in a male dominated industry + a public family background immersed in what feels like cult teachings

I could literally type paragraphs for each character presented

in just 3 episodes

the homie should have stuck to the structure of season 1

and developed a couple of these characters

but a handful of characters + a handful of simultaneous plots

it's just WAY TOO MUCH IMO

I would have trimmed it down to the lead investigators and the mayor as the focal points

Rachel, Colin and the Vinci Mayor

all of this other BS; Casper, Vince Vaughn, Gay Cop, the Russians, etc...

only exist in the context of supporting the story which should be in the foreground

government corruption.

for instance, we have an entire team of investigators assigned to this case

= the wire

we saw those characters developed over SEASONS

it's just too much to develop in 10-12 episodes, IMO.

literally, pick a character that's been presented to date

and you could write an entire season on just the issues presented in that character

congrats on creating the all-star lineup of flawed people

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94. "Agreed--"
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>it's just too much to develop in 10-12 episodes, IMO.

and theres only 8 episodes

i think gay vet motorcycle cop could have been left out

but maybe they'll tie it all together in a way im not seeing yet

  

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102. "Yeah..."
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Too much "wait, what?" happening instead of just getting absorbed in the show like I did in season 1. I'm constantly trying to figure out what's happening, and not in a good way.

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103. "On top of what you said"
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there are multiple writers this season, while Nic Pizzolatto wrote the first season by himself. Could be the case there are too many cooks in the kitchen this go around.

I have the horrible feeling that I won't care who the killer is this season because so far I don't care about any of the characters so far. Too many main characters this season and some of the writing has been beyond horrible to me.

  

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104. "^^^"
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>there are multiple writers this season, while Nic Pizzolatto
>wrote the first season by himself. Could be the case there are
>too many cooks in the kitchen this go around.
>
>I have the horrible feeling that I won't care who the killer
>is this season because so far I don't care about any of the
>characters so far. Too many main characters this season and
>some of the writing has been beyond horrible to me.

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95. "OH CMON!"
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96. "I love how this show makes yall niggas cry. "
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97. "Dawg that fucking shootout!!!"
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Cotdamn...

And McAdams get blackballed.

Kitsch hounded by the media.

Shit...

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99. "RE: Dawg that fucking shootout!!!"
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That shit was nuts. Heads exploding...Bodies dropping...I was on the edge of my seat...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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101. "so may headshots/killshots...that was wild"
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mad pedestrians got hit. looking forward to the fall out in next episode

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105. "!!! This season has more action/shit hitting the fan moments "
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The shoutout saved this ep for me and literally woke me up, it was intense

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110. "Dawg who the fuck WALKS to a raid?"
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let's huddle up in this alley

and then walk down the middle of the street to kick in a door

WTF

I nearly pissed myself watching Colin and McAdams try to convince us they've shot a gun before

Rachel couldn't even aim the gun above her shoulder @ 5 min

unless she was trying to shoot her feet or a body already on the ground

and Colin looked like that gun was kicking his ass @ 1:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_AyMkoyiFM

LOL@running down a moving vehicle

top speed on foot might be 10-15mph

but the getaway driver never puts any distance between them

and then of course, hits a bus

you've got about 5-6 people standing within 20 feet of each other

= nobody getting hit

c'mon

that whole f'n scene was unbelievable

I only bought motorcycle cop during that whole exchange

but to add onto my critique of doing too much

the homie gets shot in the head

and I didn't even wince or care.

at this point, the show's more entertaining for how bad it is

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MiracleRic
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111. "that happens a lot actually"
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>Rachel couldn't even aim the gun above her shoulder
>

this was the main thing i noticed...that shit had a permanent tilt towards the ground

>unless she was trying to shoot her feet or a body already on
>the ground
>
>and Colin looked like that gun was kicking his ass
>

I assumed that was bc of the ribs

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_AyMkoyiFM
>
>but to add onto my critique of doing too much
>
>the homie gets shot in the head
>
>and I didn't even wince or care.

u weren't supposed to care about Captain I-dont-give-a-fuck

the reason for the walk is often about location...walking and alleys are used to prevent lookouts from giving enough notice for suspects to escape

they needed way more backup and had zero idea that shit was about to be that live

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114. "fam, I mean literally walking"
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huddle, break

stroll down the middle of the street

c'mon

if they had any creep they'd at least stay as close to the building as they can for cover

and put a little urgency in their approach, no?

but of course, none of that would allow for the shootout scene, right?

I'll give you the broken ribs

but that reinforces my issue with doing too much

= I forgot he got shot

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119. "RE: fam, I mean literally walking"
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But that's how the show wanted it to come across....

It's obvious that it was a botched raid....I mean the primary characters just thought it would be a routine knock and grab ...They didn't even call for back up....

There were a string of fuck ups made. And it was all by design to underline how the main characters are so wrapped up in their own baggage, issues and bullshit that they forgot that even the most mundane task (remember, they were just questioning a "guy" who happened to be in a pawn shop video that they were desperate to connect with Caspere) could produce epic clusterfucks...

Hell, I even think there's a mole in that department...Someone who tipped that gang in that building off that they were going to be raided....

Nothing in this show is what it seems....Like the fact that the entire raid was a set up from the beginning....

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122. "I ain't never scene a raid that casual tho"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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125. "lol, they convened so far away..."
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you aint about to be military walk/running for 7 blocks in no industrial area like that lol

the alley they came out of was damn near 3 blocks away from where they wanted to go...

they were not expecting Fallujah out that bitch...them niggas had several armed men with full-automatic weapons in adjoining buildings

the few precautions they took was to avoid a chase...not to enhance their chances in a mexican standoff lol

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123. "yep, the biggest show flaw in that was rachel's gun tilt"
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that shit was mad glaring

like...did yall not give her enough notice notice to go take a few lara croft fucking classes

but everything else...i was cool with...i was surprised they even went with as many people as they did which was illustrated by old boy asking "you sure we need all this manpower?"

she had requested more and pretty much got put on the waiting list

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132. "Mole..."
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>Hell, I even think there's a mole in that department...Someone who tipped that gang in that building off that they were going to be raided....

I immediately had that thought when old boy popped up in the window and started busting at them.

  

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112. "RE: Dawg who the fuck WALKS to a raid?"
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>but to add onto my critique of doing too much
>
>the homie gets shot in the head
>
>and I didn't even wince or care.


I was surprised the drunk fat detective got shot if only because I wanted to know definitively why he was following Kitch's character around. Now I have to assume the crooked mayor told him to because as lazy as he seems, couldn't have been something he wanted to do so on him lonesome.

  

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116. "talk about doing too much... lol"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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121. "had to come back and eat that crow. "
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I fell asleep and didn't see the shootout/raid scene and thought you were being extra but the whole time I was thinking "this nigga ain't lying"

they walked up up the street like it was West Side Story

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126. "remember the guy question whether they needed that many people?"
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they thought it was going to be a routine arrest...they didn't think they were walking into a war zone. If it wasn't for McAdams it would've been 2-4 cops walking up in there knocking on the door.

it did seem odd though cause it was broad daylight and they were just walking down the street...at least try to be discreet.

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98. "The occult undertones are even less apparent as they were in Season 1"
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still, a lot of overt signals that we're going to be delving into a ring of horrendous abuse and high-level OTO type craft -- i.e. "my ascension removes me from the disc and loop" (Form & Void final episode - season 1)

City of Vinci? Lux adorned by Horns? Merovingian mansion?

I appreciate the attempt this show has to depicting OTO craft, but it's in danger of just superficially delving into the occult (like so many other shows/movies) - and you can't just flirt w/ such a topic on a cursory level if you are to do it justice.

The intensity remains as it did from season 1 - just hoping some of these plots start to coalesce soon.

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100. "why cant they flirt with it and do it justice? "
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it's not like it's a documentary and I think the characters are the main focus of the show

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108. "yep, although i think the plot is primary this time"
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rather than the characters

the characters have mostly come in damn near fully developed...

it's the plot that is unraveling in ways most unsuspected

  

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109. "people that had problems with the fight scene?"
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why?

that shit was definitely humorous but made perfect sense as far as how they are presenting Vince so far...

old school aspiring crooked entreprenuer with a deep dark past of running low level shit in a shitty fucking city

that shit was classic lion cub getting his ass beat by the over the hill lion...and it was clearly on old ass lion's terms...the end result made it even more clear why

that shit was so perfect in fleshing him out...bc they had been mostly presenting him as how he wanted to be rather than what he actually was until then

he's cerebral reluctant fucking bully

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117. "that was a great fight scene, people watch too many movies with"
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crazy shit that doesn't resemble anything like realistic fights. That was a middle age man that is pretty tough but past his prime, taking out a loudmouth dude that isn't soft but isn't that tough either.

  

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130. "agree w/ this"
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@rob_starrk

  

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113. "i gotta re-watch the last 2 eps because i'm confused as to where"
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the mexican guy they were goin after came from

basically ...i'm lost lol

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115. "the mexican is who they caught on camera"
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pawning someone shit

u gotta peep the pattern

remember dude tried to pin the car theft on the mexican dude who used to work for the company that owned it...

makes sense he would sell a few valuables for cheap to some other immigrant criminals for another misdirection

Colin seems to be the only one paying close enough attention so far

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120. "im still lost to his relevance to the casper murder. I did fall asleep i..."
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The beginning tho

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124. "so far..."
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that's the mysterious part

it could be related to Vince Vaughn's money (likely at least partially), his own perversions, the copious amounts of other city corruption...or something that hasn't been revealed yet

i do think it's interesting that they are trying like hell to pin it on the "mexicans" though

that town is a rusting cesspool though

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128. "remind me...what car is this that was stolen?"
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i need to rewatch all the eps cause there's stuff i missed or forgot

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129. "the one for the movie production company"
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basically...the car used to transport Caspere to his final destination belonged to the movie production company that he used to like to rub elbows with and have his lil sex parties around

they asked about the stolen car...learned a driver quit a couple weeks back...went to question him

the assumed killer was there at the same time setting the car on fire in what looks like an attempt to steer the police to the person they were there to question in the first place

so the car theft got steered to a Mexican...then the pawned jewels got steered to the guys responsible for the shootout

so whoever is doing all of this appears to be very familiar with Caspere's doings but also the cities/police and they are throwing them misdirection after misdirection

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134. "gotcha...yeah i didn't catch any of this lol"
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damn i need to just start the season over

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135. "Ok thanks. But what pawned jewels? Were they stolen out of Casper's"
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I'm like gumz I need to watch eps 2-4 again

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118. "Not a fan of this season. The shootout was CRAZY. "
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I haven't given up on it, just every episode is a fight to stay awake.

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127. "I thought it was just me. I was like "why is everyone whispering??""
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Streets won't let me chill.

  

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131. "apparently the whispering is the GOOD part of the show.. "
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They be mad as shit when they have action but let it be whispers and glares for 20 minutes straight. MASTERPIECE THEATRE!!!




I fell asleep again last night.. wife had to wake me up before the shootout.



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133. "Watching the shootout now. I like the whole package. "
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136. "i keep trying but i'm not liking this season"
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VV is just awful and the writing is bad
the shoot out was the most interesting thing, everything else is pretty bleh

  

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137. "I'm pretty sure no one is making it out okay this season"
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This shit had a lot of changes and revelations tonight. Biggest of all us Frank lying/fucking over Ray.

That shootout ended badly for all them as far as blowback goes.

These cats are gonna get seriously fucked over by courrpt system b.

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138. "RE: I'm pretty sure no one is making it out okay this season"
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>This shit had a lot of changes and revelations tonight.
>Biggest of all us Frank lying/fucking over Ray.
>
>That shootout ended badly for all them as far as blowback
>goes.
>
>These cats are gonna get seriously fucked over by courrpt
>system b.

This^^^^^^

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142. "Vox sees it...and says it better too (link)"
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http://www.vox.com/2015/7/19/9000387/true-detective-shootout-season-2-lame

if you don't want to click and read, allow me to summarize

the plea cop, wait until episode X, that's when it gets good

is as close as you can get to saying, it's bad.

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143. "turn the channel"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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145. "if only there was an analogy for a message board reply that I could reto..."
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147. "Same can be said for the first season *shrugs*"
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The thing is the first seasons actors are hard shoes to fill. Not just acting wise, but status wise. If season 2 was actually the first season and they followed up with Woody and Mr Alright Alright nobody would be saying shit all they would be doing is saying how they kept stepping it up. I don't think this season is a step down other than movie star wise. Pretending that doesn't play a factor u are just fooling yourself.
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144. "hanging in"
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its marginally better
getting accustomed to the music

at least i have taylor's face to alleviate all the grimness and zzzz

i'm trying to care
i really don't care about vince's whole situation

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146. "I felt really bad for Ray tonight. The music and hallucinations in that ..."
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Fucked me up b.

And yo the Mexicans gotta be in on it cause killing that girl cause she talked to cops seemed like bullshit.

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149. "a real gangster would go ham "
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when he saw that the mexicans killed the girl and still demand that he hold up his part of the club deal

Frank ain't no gangster, he's just a rest haven for hoes (c)

The camera work in the orgy party was gangster tho, and Ani killed it (literally and figuratively)

  

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151. "I was thinking the same thing b."
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I would've murked the shit out of them Mexicans. I don't care if I start a war or not. Somebody gotta pay for that shit. They straight up disrespected the fuck outta him and he rolled over and took it.

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152. "would've been dumb to do something at that moment"
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they were outnumbered and outgunned...i'll be amazed if Frank doesn't do anything at all though. he's def not going to honor that deal. he also realized he underestimated them by kicking them out of the club. he needs to look into them before acting...that's the real gangster move to make.

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154. "The real gangsta move would be to turn Confidential Informer"
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and turn them offer to the cops to get them off his back.

And by gangsta move I mean what an actual modern criminal would do.


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157. "Right, attempting to "show his strength" would've gotten him killed."
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He realized he fucked up in his handling of that situation and began thinking about what to do next. That's the *smart* gangster thing to do.

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148. "Good one...."
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Especially the last 10 minutes......That orgy fight...CRAZY....

Still trying to convince myself to take Vince seriously in his role, though. He's def. the week link in all this....

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150. "We hallucinating off MDMA now?"
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Nobody else in the party seemed to be having those reactions. Then simply by throwing up she's magically fine...immediately. So cliche how TV shows portray being high like every drug including marijuana is like LSD or some shit. Kind of lazy....

  

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155. "yeah i would get it if it was laced but..."
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why is she the only one trippin off the shit...her and the one girl she went in to save. that made no sense.

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156. "If she was in a high-stress environment with a fucked-up past..."
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... and she isn't used to being high at all, I don't think it's too far from the realm of the possible to say that she could have a negative reaction and it could stir up negative imagery from her past.

And I also didn't get that she was 100% better once she puked, she was still stumbling around and struggling big time. She just had a task she was hellbent to accomplish, and the director focused us on that instead of on her POV.

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158. "RE: If she was in a high-stress environment with a fucked-up past..."
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>... and she isn't used to being high at all, I don't think
>it's too far from the realm of the possible to say that she
>could have a negative reaction and it could stir up negative
>imagery from her past.
>
>And I also didn't get that she was 100% better once she puked,
>she was still stumbling around and struggling big time. She
>just had a task she was hellbent to accomplish, and the
>director focused us on that instead of on her POV.



I agree with all this^^^^^^

There's real criticism to be thrown at True Detective....Ol' girl's reaction to Molly (as a first time user) and how she reacted to it after she threw up (she was still staggering and obviously woozy) should not be in that conversation....

I have more of an issue with Vince Vaughn being blown off the screen whenever he goes toe to toe with a good actor (and some of the side-eye worthy dialogue that's been written for him) than anything else....

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153. "what kinda 70s tv movie score was that though?"
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that shit was horrendous lol

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159. "Colin, Vince, the setting are clearly the shows strengths."
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While everything else is a huge weakness. And I mean everything. From dialogue to the majority of the cast. To subplots.

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160. "RE: Colin, Vince, the setting are clearly the shows strengths."
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>While everything else is a huge weakness. And I mean
>everything. From dialogue to the majority of the cast. To
>subplots.


U right on Colin. But Vince, at times, has been borderline suspect....I was one of the folks that was taking up for him early on. That scene when he was telling his wife about his dark energy remains his BEST moment on screen....

But beyond that the dialogue for Vince has been pretty questionable (that "blue balls in the heart" line was laughable....) and when he hits the screen with Colin he comes off as very lightweight....In fact, the main female role and the ex biker cop have been A LOT more watchable than Vince....

Mostly it's the dialogue coming out of Vince's mouth that's been bugging me.

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161. "I'm putting a lot of that on the dialogue being bad."
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It's so on the nose and just ridiculous when you hear the words come out of their mouths.

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163. "RE: I'm putting a lot of that on the dialogue being bad."
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>It's so on the nose and just ridiculous when you hear the
>words come out of their mouths.


Right?.....I'm like, "Why do they have that man talking like THAT..." lol

I was with Vince during his childhood talk with wifey and that fight scene with dude with the grills. Hell, I liked him when he was at the bakery flexing his mojo....But for the most part, u are dead on about Vince's dialogue....Shit seems like it was written by a novice in film school....

But I fucks with McAdams...I fuck with Colin and the other kid...They r the strong links....

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162. "Not liking McAdams? I thought she killed it last night"
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165. "I think her and Colin have been the best"
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171. "i agree...their the only 2 characters that grab my attn"
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the gay cop is close but nah

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166. "yeah i dont get any McAdams hate..."
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She's been doing good work the whole series and last night really showed out...

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167. "I don't think she has much to work with. Her character is just silly."
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10 mins of sweaty knife practice undoubtedly leads to her knifing people.

Shit like that.

Her character is second goofiest to black out gay and ptsd Taylor Kitsch.

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164. "Vince being a strength is a horrible thing"
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This being his best work ever
Yall have low expectations
On the other hand Kitsch and McAdams are showing they are better than the material they've been handed
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168. "Who said it was his best work ever? "
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Swingers or the break up

Good luck with any of it frankly
LOL @ Vince being the strength of anything

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170. "Marty watches season two of True Detective. "
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172. "genius"
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173. "awesome"
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175. "I'm a fan of this season, but that's funny as fuck"
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176. "Absolutely brilliant."
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I was literally howling when Marty first shifted in his chair and grimaced after watching Vince Vaughn.

  

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177. "lol"
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231. "Brilliant "
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179. "Damn. Just damn. I knew ole boy was gonna get mirked..."
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...cause he had the most to lose. Also, that line about being a good man. And the hopeful/suspenseful slow mo jog. At least he doesn't have to live a lie.

But yo these niggas dove deeper into the rabbit hole and got buried in a world of shit.

The "romance" shit between Ani & Ray could've gone, but yo solid episode.

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180. "RE: Damn. Just damn. I knew ole boy was gonna get mirked..."
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>...cause he had the most to lose. Also, that line about being
>a good man. And the hopeful/suspenseful slow mo jog. At least
>he doesn't have to live a lie.
>
>But yo these niggas dove deeper into the rabbit hole and got
>buried in a world of shit.
>
>The "romance" shit between Ani & Ray could've gone, but yo
>solid episode.


Very solid episode....And for once Vince was believable as Dat Gangsta...

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181. "RE: "
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I knew if they included a scene after he climbed the ladder hed be killed. Once they cut back to him it was over. Despite the hate, he was actually one of my fav characters this season.

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184. "Knew that was gonna happen, but hoped it wouldn't"
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Who knows. It wasn't a head shot, so he could make it, but it doesn't look likely.

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185. "Homie wasn't in the preview for next week though. "
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186. "wasn't the second bullet a headshot?"
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how da hell did dude know he would come out of that door? seemed like they were in a giant building/complex with several exits.

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189. "Yeah he's dead. And this bothered me as well"
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>how da hell did dude know he would come out of that door?
>seemed like they were in a giant building/complex with several
>exits.

  

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190. "Im guessing there were more people there than the one dude"
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That door was his responsibility.

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197. "eh...i dunno"
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it's a minor gripe though, doesn't really matter

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182. "Was I supposed to give a fuck about him? I felt zero connection"
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to his character, and I hate that they made his gayness this sword of Damocles hanging over his head all season, and then didn't really use it in any exciting way (even though they clearly tied to use it that way.)

  

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183. "I did like how they handled the end of his relationship with that guy."
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guy was just as cold to him as he'd been to guy, but you could tell it was the only truly passionate relationship in either of their lives. they didn't make a big deal out of it, but I could feel his pain not necessarily at the betrayal, but basically using the one person he truly had feelings for's head as a bullet sponge.

the last time they embraced was on the field of battle, and in a sense one taking a bullet for the other.

I think it was also a little poetic that he was told to just be himself and everything would be fine, and I bought him more in his moment of betraying Ray and Ani than I did when he tried to escape. if he'd have sold them out, he'd have been fine and got to go on faking his life with his fiancé. but in another sense, being himself meant entering a combat scenario and finding his self worth the only way he knew how.

overall it was a hamfisted character, as has been much of this show, but given that's been this season's (and some would say show's) entire M.O. I'm willing to look past that and I found a lot to appreciate about that character, especially his final moments, he was a conflicted character, but his disdain for and passion for conflict was ultimately what made him watchable, and I think Kitsch wore it well (it was similar to his role as Riggins, a guy who seemed built for only football but tried to dream of bigger things).

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187. "Better than the first season, which was more style than substance imho"
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191. "*drags gums away*"
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don't you do it
walk away dude
walk away!

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193. "The female characters have more depth, and I find the storyline more "
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compelling and nuanced. Plus, I will take the overwrought dialogue from this season over vapid McCounaghey's any day of the week. At least it is distributed among the cast. Plus, I feel like McCounaghey's character is for dudes who love the most interesting man in the world commercials. Any who, we have the television that we deserve.

  

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198. "i..."
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>compelling and nuanced. Plus, I will take the overwrought
>dialogue from this season over vapid McCounaghey's any day of
>the week. At least it is distributed among the cast. Plus, I
>feel like McCounaghey's character is for dudes who love the
>most interesting man in the world commercials. Any who, we
>have the television that we deserve.

don't have much to argue about here

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192. "better"
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sad to see dude go

but i couldn't see them resolving his particular problem quickly

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195. "all that build up about his confict though..."
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only to have it be used for half-assed blackmail...disappointing. he went out like a soldier though which is dope.

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196. "agreed"
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>only to have it be used for half-assed
>blackmail...disappointing. he went out like a soldier though
>which is dope.

this writer likes to do thing like that though

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199. "I'll be the first to admit that was disappointing"
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So the first episode and last were complete trash.

Even at it's strongest, this season is not touching last season period.

At least episodes 2-7 were good.

But fuck that wasn't worth it.

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201. "Yeah i was expecting more from an 1.5 episode."
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I supported this season along the way but now looking back, it really was a let down. I hate to agree with all the negative people from before but that finale just wasnt very good at all.

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200. "Good ending. I dug it. "
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202. "RE: Good ending. I dug it. "
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Yeah...this is where I am with this..."good" episode. tied up the loose ends and had a nice curve pitch....

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203. "terrible writing on this show."
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what happened? biggest season 2 disappointment in like forever.

yupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyup

  

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204. "This confirms it pizzolatto is a crap ass writer "
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Called it from season 1
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206. "He really is though. I wondered how a first time writer"
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could have done so great with the first season. I think the answer is Woody and Matthew.

Here you saw that dude couldn't cover basic storytelling.



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209. "fukunaga, woody and matthew covered his ass"
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everybody except for the writer did their jobs above excellence
and the writer was average then
now he's just a piss poor excuse of a writer with a clearly weaker team
he likely tried to take all the credit for last season
and this is the result of him taking control
hes fucking clueless

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210. "Something else to consider"
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is that last year Pizzolatto wrote the show by himself last year and for the second season, he wrote the show with a room of writers. Could be the instance there were too many cooks in the kitchen in terms of writing the show.

  

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211. "he gets zero leeway "
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>is that last year Pizzolatto wrote the show by himself last
>year and for the second season, he wrote the show with a room
>of writers. Could be the instance there were too many cooks in
>the kitchen in terms of writing the show.

last season the writing the weakest element of the show
this season he's the head writer which gives him more control
and this is what he did with it
he can't write worth a damn
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216. "I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any blame for this season."
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The inferior writing and Taylor Kitch's acting were sore spots for me this season. However, Pizzolatto did a great job with the first season, in particular with the dialog. To completely write him off as not having any talent isn't fair at all to me.

  

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225. "not true Fresh"
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if anything, all the horseshit McConnehey was saying in season one was quoted all over the internet, and only a few people said 'this is second year college existentialism' which by the way, is quite okay as police dialogue in my book.

If his writing was bad last season, no one called hi on it, because it isn't bad writing. The problem is that he attributed dreamy, philosophical themes to police officers. I think people excused that disconnect in tone because the show was presenting itself as fantasy fiction, the yellow king and the symbols and all that.

That type of dialogue doesn't work in season two which is presenting itself as a hard boiled detective noir. I mean the mythology here is that rich people have orgies, which is what poor people do if you run in the right circles, so ham-fisted, navel gazing monologues feel clunky here.

I think he' a good writer, h just needs direction. I mean can you imagine what he could do with the british child abuse scandal? His style would benefit that story, not some land-grab-deal-gone-wrong story.

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205. "loved it, easily best episode of the season."
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felt imported from a different show at times. didn't feel one moment of unintentional comedy and it kept me on my toes the whole time, I really wasn't sure if Ray or Frank weren't going to make it until Ray made that phone call from the highway. Wasn't sure Frank was dead until he got shanked, honestly. Loved all his final scenes. Was legitimately nervous as hell for Ray when his car got tagged.

Episode felt the most like something helicopter'd in from last season, which is maybe why I'm shocked to see such negative (if limited) response to this episode on these boards so far. I'm fully pleased with this season. It made me laugh for the wrong reasons and it was much sloppier than last year, but I dug the world and the performances and have left the season much more positive about it than I was after the first two episodes.

I didn't watch the whole season due to any prestige factor, it was legitimately entertaining. I bowed out of The Leftovers after four episodes because I was bored. I'm not sure why anyone who felt that way about this season stuck around through the whole thing, it was pretty obvious what this season was going to be from the jump. That it got better with each episode is a bit of a miracle, but maybe that's the trouble with essentially rebooting a known quality each time around.

Definitely excited to see what gets remixed for season 3.

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207. "agree with everything here"
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I am shocked at how bad this ep. is getting shit on... 1 of the funniest complaints are "they waited til the end to explain things" like the importance of a character like Felicia... yet if they never explained her people would be shitting on them for that... I was fully emotionally invested into CF and VV to the end like you

  

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208. "I'm bitter I watched that to the end. Was not worth it. "
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212. "I think the worst thing is dude still hasn't figured out writing women"
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It seemed like McAdams was going to be the deviation from his standard nagging wife supporting female characters but by the end of the story he put McAdams in the exact same position as this serious nagging wife by having her being shipped off and trying to dissuade the dude from fighting the fight he has to fight.



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213. "..."
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so a group i'm in on FB a dude wrote this last week:

"How nice for Nic 'Deep Dish' Pizzolatto to go from season 1, where there were hardly any female characters (and when they were present they were weak, uninspired, hollow shells and side pieces in more than one way) to this season where there is one female lead who is sexually abused, overly cartoonish, and essentially just a reverse Caitlyn Jenner.

All the surrounding women are prostitutes, orgy participants, murder and/or rape victims, or total bitches. One even literally said the words, "Everything is fucking." I don't know that "misogynistic" is the right word because I fancy myself a misogynist and I don't want to be compared to this idiot-face but he's certainly obtuse and out of his element. Stick to writing scripts with a Glengarry Glen Ross type of cast. Or better yet, just go back to jerking off and let someone with talent write the third season of this show."




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214. "I have a question for someone who reads a lot of Noir?"
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I feel like sooo much of this Season I've seen in other places (namely LA COnfidential) and I was wondering if Nic Pizzolatto ripped off a few major works LA Confidential, Chinatown, Miller's Crossing) OR if there are some themes so common in Noir works that you are bound to see them alot.

I mean some stuff is very generic and I am sure are common themes: Reopening a case that everyone thought was solved (LA COnfidential). Pulling off the heist and having a clean getaway available but blowing in by going back to do one last thing (Heat). Being lead out into the woods you dreamed you would be murdered (Miller's Crossing, BTW Ray's dead predicted it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Fn7GZjR0Q&feature=youtu.be&t=3m38s)

But some stuff I thought very specific to other films and books Party's with High End Hookers and Plastic Surgery (LA COnfidential), buying up land that will eventually become vaulable (Chinatown).

Folks who know Noir, is Pizzolatto a hack ripping off the genre or paying homage to classic themes and materials?
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215. "mrhood75"
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posted this in PTP

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=699652&mesg_id=699652&page=#701578


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217. "ultimately, this season/story was just "okay.""
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luckily, the season got better episode to episode. the problem is that it started from such a low point that the peak of episode 8 wasn't THAT thrilling.

i liked that VV started out as a really weak character. by the end though he stepped it up and it think his character may have been everyone's favorite.

all we can do is hope for better next season. the story/performances OVERALL just weren't there.

  

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219. "I keep thinking that there are soo many better shows that don't get the "
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attention because they aren't on HBO.

If this season wasn't on HBO no one would be talking about it.


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221. "true but it mostly got attention cause of season 1"
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222. "which shows?"
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i'm not doubting you, i'm genuinely asking because i'm always looking for something new to watch.

  

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223. "Justified and 'The Americans' comes to mind"
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218. "this might be THEE most clichéd ending for a series i've ever seen..."
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..so much that every scene was telegraphed.

i'm not saying the entire season was a failure, but there wasn't much in the way of consistency. in the end, i didn't care what happened to any of them (which is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the job of a successful writer).

i don't need any of these writers working together again.

here's hoping next season is nothing like this.


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220. "i wonder if the backlash from season 1s ending factored in..."
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people seemed angry about the somewhat happy ending to that season so this season ends with nothing but Ls passed around. dude mighta listened to the critics to closely on that one...not that it mattered much at that point.

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224. "I was thinking the same thing. He went the traditional noir route..."
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...with the ending.

He said he thought it was cliche to have characters die in these type of stories and watching it last night, you could see him trying to rectify that for last season and make it more "realistic" with the noir type endings and overtones.

Homeboy should've just stuck to his guns TBH.

I think there were too many cats and moving pieces involved with the conspiracy and frame ups TBH.

And when the Mexicans came back, I asked myself did they really need to be back?

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226. "right, the fact that the mexicans weren't taking dirt naps already..."
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was far fetched

the moving parts were sloppily managed bc as tight a rein as he kept in-house (despite the bullshit ass flood of betrayal)

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DJ007
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234. "dude went the Sutter route -30 extra minutes we didn't need...lol"
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my only problems with the season were just dialogue and editing issues otherwise I was fine with this season. But I just didn't care about the last 30 minutes.

  

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will_5198
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232. "it definitely seemed like it."
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S2's ending was everything stupidly cliche that S1 didn't do. and the complaints about S1's ending were mostly off the mark to begin with.

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MiracleRic
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227. "I see the critiques of him as a writer"
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he leaves to many plot devices under-developed or simply clumsily used...

Woodrugh's gayness...used poorly

The Mexicans...wack...after they killed ol girl he was supposed to get info from...they should have been dead

Killed Stan and we barely even knew who the fuck Stan was

The actual initial murderer(s) actually made hella sense for once but the hard drive...a freshman forensic IT person could have retrieved that data in all likelihood

the multiple shit luck Vercoro had with phones was extremely extra and messy

Antigone not wanting any part of testifying

it was sloppy around the edges...the actual bare bones plot was solid...i think he needed ol boy to rein him in from going off the rails though...

i actually liked Vince in this role...i think his character seemed mildly far-fetched but i kinda liked that about it...colin was ok...mcadams character was clunky and i hate that she didn't take the time to learn to hold a gun with all that knife "training"

the setting and the bare-bones plot was dope though...it had all the makings of a prototypical noir but missed the mark...it should have been paced differently with that many moving parts

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Mynoriti
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228. "That Scooby Doo shit with all the clues at the house was the worst"
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maybe the worst moment of the whole series. I liked the season for the most part, but...

*peeps in the window*

"It's the bird mask!"

"Oh cool. the sliding door is open"

"hey what's behind this black curtain?"

"Hey, that looks like the same shotgun that.."

*under carefully placed magnifying glass* NON LETHAL BULLETS
"It is!!"

"And surveillance photos... of Holloway, and Burris!"

"Wait, i hear a voice in the other room"

FAINT VOICE "hey can anyone hear me?"

it's the girl that can tell us everything!

Oh wow, it turns out her brother (the guy who we figured out was the missing link even though the audience saw him for 2 seconds) is gonna meet with Holloway right now!

  

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bwood
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229. "I'm laughing hard right now"
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Reading this description was more entertaining than watching that.

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America from 9:00 on: https://youtu.be/GUwLCQU10KQ

  

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230. "Lmao so on point"
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