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So, I had a bit of an existential mind riot this weekend. It dawned on me that most things that matter only come in two's. I've never really noticed that before. Let me illustrate what I mean. I can't possibly list them all.

Human abstractions and profundities:

Life & Death
Good & Bad
War & Peace
Rich & Poor
Materialist & Spiritualist
Atheist & Non Atheist

Physical:

Two eyes, two ears, two hands, two legs, two nostrils, two lips, two lungs, two testicles, two kidneys, two lungs.
Male & Female

Scientific:

Binary code (On and Off - Foundation for computing.)
Wave's (Crest and Trough)
Two poles, two halves (Equator)
DNA (Double Helix)
Quantum theory (Atoms vanish and reappear.)

I could go on but I will stop there.

Why does our universe have so many profound instances of two's, or dualism? If you analyse every instance, the two halves, or two parts always compose a single unity or concept that cannot exist with only 1 part. You cannot have war without peace, life without death, existence without non existence.

I know that there are many examples where there are more than 2 parts, however, my point is that the most profound, and life affecting concepts or abstractions, only come in two.

WHY?!!

Is it possible that we live in a parallel universe model? and that our universe is interacting with one other universe?

Is it possible one of these universe is female and another is male? Is possible that life could only occur when our universe collided with the other?

Could the dualism of Life and Death, the Double Helix, Light & Darkness, Existence and Non Existence be reflected and rooted in two universes which are colliding? Is it possible that dark matter and dark energy is the impact of the second universe which is directly on top of ours? is it possible that all unexplained phenomenon is the interplay between these two universes?

Is it possible that the reason our most profound realities come in two is simply because there are two roots for everything?

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

it's an evolutionary throwback.
humans that took too much time figuring out
exactly how many sabertooths were attacking them got eaten by sabertooths.

humans don't examine things closely.
they group the ideas into chunks that are easy to remember.



that why we group things together in twos (or threes).
day and night
made good metaphors for good and evil,
Life and death, etc.
so that worked its way into our mythology.


humans also tend to cling to patterns,
so we tend to read more significance into these paterns than necessary.

the reoccurring theme of the number 2 is not a glimpse
into an unseen universe... it's an example of your
human brain trying to read order into a mostly chaotic universe
and focusing on the number 2 because it's round and easy to remember.

ppl also do this with the number 3, 5, and 7, and occasionally 12 or 13,
which is coincidentally about the same number of things the human brain
can comfortably keep track of at the same time.
(humans can remember 5 plus or minus 3 things in short or long term memory. that's why phone numbers are broken into 3 and 4 digit chunks
to help us remember a 10 digit number.)

which is what I suspect you are doing right now.
I can recognize it because I used to do the same thing.




btw, birth is opposite of death.
life has no opposite.

I am not separate to the universe, nor is my brain.

There are also only two sexes. Some animals possess the power of both, but there is only two. We cannot even conceive of a sex that does not fit into the Male & Female duality.

>it's an evolutionary throwback.

It's not *just* that.

>
>that why we group things together in twos (or threes).

You will find profound realities, which exist here, outside of our "human" understanding in two's, not three's. However, we are still from this universe, so the fact that our brain see's so many dual relationships is a completely natural, and organic observation. Our DNA is a double helix, electrons have positive and negative charges, most of our organs and senses which allow life to procreate only come in two as well. These things exist beyond "human" definition or pattern recognition, or pattern invention. How many arms do you have? How many legs? how many eyes? Just think about it. These are innate realities.


>Life and death, etc.

Life and death is not a human invention or metaphor. It is a reality.


>which is what I suspect you are doing right now.
>I can recognize it because I used to do the same thing.
>

You are not seeing my point yet, but you will. The question I am asking is: "Why is dualism the underlying foundation for our experience of living and dying and everything that we understand or observe about the universe?"

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

>I am not separate to the universe, nor is my brain.
>

great. neither is mine.
where does that get us?

that we are all connected and I am a part of you
and we are only seperated by illusionary social constructs?
fine. but you still can't move my arm... or read my thoughts,
so for all intents and purposes, we are seperate.

your brain is not a magical portal
that holds all the secrets to the universe.
not really.

you won't find your answers this way.
you will go on and on in meaningless circles.




>There are also only two sexes. Some animals possess the power
>of both, but there is only two. We cannot even conceive of a
>sex that does not fit into the Male & Female duality.
>

You're still stuck on the idea that there are 2 biological human sexes,
but there are more than 2 genders. the world is bigger than your brain.
in fact, our society pushes against the idea of multiple genders
because their human brain keeps trying to cram everything
into neat, bianary systems.

which is another reason this mystical shit played out for me.
it's just another box and the world doesn't fit neatly in it.


>>it's an evolutionary throwback.
>
>It's not *just* that.
>
>>
>>that why we group things together in twos (or threes).
>
>You will find profound realities, which exist here, outside of
>our "human" understanding in two's, not three's. However, we
>are still from this universe, so the fact that our brain see's
>so many dual relationships is a completely natural, and
>organic observation. Our DNA is a double helix, electrons have
>positive and negative charges, most of our organs and senses
>which allow life to procreate only come in two as well. These
>things exist beyond "human" definition or pattern recognition,
>or pattern invention. How many arms do you have? How many
>legs? how many eyes? Just think about it. These are innate
>realities.
>
>
>>Life and death, etc.
>
>Life and death is not a human invention or metaphor. It is a
>reality.
>
>
>>which is what I suspect you are doing right now.
>>I can recognize it because I used to do the same thing.
>>
>
>You are not seeing my point yet, but you will. The question I
>am asking is: "Why is dualism the underlying foundation for
>our experience of living and dying and everything that we
>understand or observe about the universe?"
>
>



I see your point perfectly fine.
I answered it years ago.

You ASSUME dualism is the underlying foundation for your experience
of living and dying because your brain fixates on things in pairs.

there's nothing more to it than that.

you will not stumble upon the universal theory of relativity
if you keep looking for these round numbers.

chaos theory already proved
that the universe doesn't care about round numbers as much as humans do.


this post would be better if you shifted your fixation
to the occurrance of irrational numbers in some of our models for the universe.

that's more interesting than this pseudoscience
from the overly romanticized mystery schools of
greece/ egypt.

>>I am not separate to the universe, nor is my brain.
>>
>
>great. neither is mine.
>where does that get us?
>

It asserts the reality that we are not separate to this universe. Most people whom enter this conversation will say something like: "That is a *human* idea." You have to remind them, that to be human, is to be this universe.

>that we are all connected and I am a part of you
>and we are only seperated by illusionary social constructs?
>fine. but you still can't move my arm... or read my thoughts,
>so for all intents and purposes, we are seperate.

You are off topic.

>
>your brain is not a magical portal
>that holds all the secrets to the universe.
>not really.
>

This is your own personal contention and has no ground in reality or truth.

>you won't find your answers this way.
>you will go on and on in meaningless circles.
>
>

Maybe you will, but you should not impose your perception on to the universe.


>You're still stuck on the idea that there are 2 biological
>human sexes,
>but there are more than 2 genders. the world is bigger than
>your brain.

There are only 2 physical sexes.

>in fact, our society pushes against the idea of multiple
>genders
>because their human brain keeps trying to cram everything
>into neat, bianary systems.
>

Male & Female. Count them, let me know what number you arrive at.

>which is another reason this mystical shit played out for me.
>

You are not seeking to understand, you are seeking to prove me wrong, which is ironic, because you do not understand what I am trying to say yet.

>
>I see your point perfectly fine.
>I answered it years ago.
>

You answered nothing.

>You ASSUME dualism is the underlying foundation for your
>experience
>of living and dying because your brain fixates on things in
>pairs.
>
>there's nothing more to it than that.
>

Incorrect.

>you will not stumble upon the universal theory of relativity
>if you keep looking for these round numbers.
>
>chaos theory already proved
>that the universe doesn't care about round numbers as much as
>humans do.
>
>
>this post would be better if you shifted your fixation
>to the occurrance of irrational numbers in some of our models
>for the universe.
>
>that's more interesting than this pseudoscience
>from the overly romanticized mystery schools of
>greece/ egypt.


Feel free to make your own post about that if you wish.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

> electrons have positive and negative charges


It's apparent you failed all manner of science and physics in high school and college (if you even went).

An electron has a charge of -1.
A POSITRON has a charge of +1. It is the antimatter equivalent of an electron.

and electron will never have a +1 charge, always -1.

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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D

you feel the need to condescend.

I will ignore you from now on.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

>you feel the need to condescend.
>
>I will ignore you from now on.

Dude comes off as very "I know something you don't know"-ish in pretty much every post I've ever seen. Like... "I'm enlightened and you all are unwashed plebeians."


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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D

This person also comes off as first year in college smoking weed in the basement of the residence hall and philosophizing until 3 am because no one has Friday classes.

coming in here like Oswald Bates from In Living Color

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HebReKH82kE


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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D

ctrl-alt-delete yourself for not being to take a lil humor.


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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

and you again want to throw a passive-aggressive tantrum because another person has shown you how NOT deep you are

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Yin_yang.svg/1024px-Yin_yang.svg.png

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

To give life, two sexes have to come together.
We cannot experience reality without life and death.
There cannot experience without existence and non existence.

There are so many profound examples which point to a strict duality. Why the two?!

Zen Buddhism states that there is no separation or difference in duality. That everything we see as dual is one energy, simply because you cannot have the foreground without the background. We even have two hemispheres in our brain which we produce one stream of consciousness with.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

it's romantic to think about the light side and good side of the force.
you can pull some interesting philosophical concepts from the model.

but it's just a model, and it's not that deep.

let it go.


>To give life, two sexes have to come together.
>We cannot experience reality without life and death.
>There cannot experience without existence and non existence.
>
>There are so many profound examples which point to a strict
>duality. Why the two?!
>
>Zen Buddhism states that there is no separation or difference
>in duality. That everything we see as dual is one energy,
>simply because you cannot have the foreground without the
>background. We even have two hemispheres in our brain which we
>produce one stream of consciousness with.

bc one hemisphere is tasked with verbalization

the thought is that it does the talking for what its desires are
and your other hemisphere is essentially a gagged prisoner

look up some of the research on folk with collapsed corpus callosum
where the hemispheres do not have to form a "mutual" decision and info can be shown to one hemisphere of the brain and hid from the other

We even have two hemispheres in our brain which we
>produce one stream of consciousness with.

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bunda
<-.-> ^_^ \^0^/
get busy living, or get busy dying.

really support this.

The Big Bang model suggests that our Universe is constantly EXPANDING, even though Gravity is CONTRACTING. They invented Dark energy and dark matter to support this theory.

Expansion Vs. Contraction in the universe. Two, duality!

How many profound instances of 2 can you find on your own body?

Our brain has two hemispheres. I did not invent the brain. I did not invent all the pairs which compose your body.

How about breathing, INHALE, EXHALE. Two. With two lungs!

How about seeing, two eyes (Light and Dark), hearing, two ears (Bass and Treble)

How bout concepts concerning our reality.

Conscious Vs. Subconscious. Two.

Waking Vs Sleeping. Two.

Something Vs. Nothing. (Find me a 3rd if you can.)

Life Vs. Death. (Find me a 3rd if you can.)

Existence Vs. Non Existence.(Find me a 3rd if you can.)

Male Vs. Female (Find me a 3rd if you can.)

Truly examine and think about it, you will find a resounding amount of TWO's, and only TWO's which are at the root of all our thinking.

The question is, WHY two?!

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

>The Big Bang model suggests that our Universe is constantly
>EXPANDING, even though Gravity is CONTRACTING. They invented
>Dark energy and dark matter to support this theory.

You really don't know how this works and I don't have the time or space to expound on this (get it??? No??? I thought not...)

>
>Expansion Vs. Contraction in the universe. Two, duality!
>
>How many profound instances of 2 can you find on your own
>body?
>
>Our brain has two hemispheres. I did not invent the brain. I
>did not invent all the pairs which compose your body.
>
>How about breathing, INHALE, EXHALE. Two. With two lungs!
>
>How about seeing, two eyes (Light and Dark), hearing, two ears
>(Bass and Treble)

bass and treble??? The average human ear can hear from 20Hz to 20KHz, some (like mine) can extend beyond this but for the most part this is it.

Within that span of frequencies lies bass, midbass, low/mid/high midrage, and low/mid/high "treble" if you want to call it that.
>
>How bout concepts concerning our reality.
>
>Conscious Vs. Subconscious. Two.

There is also Super conscious.

>
>Waking Vs Sleeping. Two.

There is a state between the two where you are partially awake and partially dreaming. Sleep paralysis falls into that area.

>
>Something Vs. Nothing. (Find me a 3rd if you can.)
>
>Life Vs. Death. (Find me a 3rd if you can.)

some would argue for a spiritual existence after death.
>
>Existence Vs. Non Existence.(Find me a 3rd if you can.)

>
>Male Vs. Female (Find me a 3rd if you can.)

There are organisms on this planet that reproduce asexually, thus rendering them neither male or female.


>Truly examine and think about it, you will find a resounding
>amount of TWO's, and only TWO's which are at the root of all
>our thinking.
>
>The question is, WHY two?!
>


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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D

shroomed it up at a concert with a wicked bad light show.

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there are things, and there is the absence of that thing


light and dark are not really a pair, dark is the absence of light
poor is the absence of wealth
cold is the absence of heat
stillness is the absence of movement
homeless is the absence of a home

that in itself doesnt lend to the idea that there should be 2 homes, or a pair of universes

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bunda
<-.-> ^_^ \^0^/
get busy living, or get busy dying.

>there are things, and there is the absence of that thing
>
>
>light and dark are not really a pair, dark is the absence of
>light

You cannot have dark on its own without light to illuminate that it was dark. You cannot have light without dark to illuminate that it is light.

>poor is the absence of wealth

Cannot have wealth without poverty to illuminate wealth.

>cold is the absence of heat

Cannot have heat without cold to identify what cold or heat is. They are tied together at the hip. They are the same thing!

>stillness is the absence of movement

You know what I'm going to say.

>homeless is the absence of a home
>
>that in itself doesnt lend to the idea that there should be 2
>homes, or a pair of universes
>

Think about it again. You cannot have the foreground without the background.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

of course u can have cold without heat

and none of the binary situations exist at the same time

u are poor, or not poor


so still doesnt make the argument here for 2 simultaneous universe

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bunda
<-.-> ^_^ \^0^/
get busy living, or get busy dying.

>of course u can have cold without heat
>

How would you understand what cold is without heat? How would you measure cold if there was no heat? How would you account for its state of being if it had no background to measure against? If there was no heat, and there was only cold, it would not be called cold anymore.

The temperature is either High or Sub Zero (Duality.)

>and none of the binary situations exist at the same time

Binary, 1 and 0, On and Off. The computer I am using right now is going ON and OFF quadrillion times per second as I type these words. The coming together of these two things at the same time creates something, an experience, a reality, a machine, etc.

Your heart expands and contracts. Duality. On and Off.

>
>so still doesnt make the argument here for 2 simultaneous
>universe

I am just musing, I am not suggesting it is so as fact.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

I didnt think twice about it til I had kids, but now I get these times -- I dont know if I consider them anxiety attacks, where I start thinking about how life is finite and every second I'm getting closer to it.


I wanna be around for as much of my kids' shit as I can....

Also not sure how much sense this makes (it makes sense in my head)
But then I also love living and being me -- if that makes any sense. I love my consciousness and the way I navigate this world. Like damn, is that shit just gonna stop one day? Then what?

This is my one life its amazing that Im here, but its gonna stop one day.

Then I get sad.

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

good form debunking this pseudo-epiphany that most children have learned to resist the urge to give too much credence to

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

with shrooms?

That is such a narrow and unfounded point of view. You made no effort to seek understanding at all.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

>

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No hard feelings, but, many of you are so eager to attack, put down, condescend, "snark", etc. before you make a single effort to understand. I don't think I have ever come across such a potent level of closed mindedness before, and such a deep desire to protect the status quo. Do any of you listen to any of the OkayArtists? how did you end up here? LOL.

This forum has a knee jerk "I'm going to put this person down before I try to understand them" complex. Why does this community breed so much anger and hatred? What is to be gained?

Be wary of what type of personality and person you allow yourself to be. If you find yourself putting down everyone for ideas that are unconventional, you should probably take some time to reflect. What will you say to your children in the future when they have questions?

Are you going to snark them too because they haven't indoctrinated themselves with the status quo that you find comfortable yet?

This place lacks heart and love, exploration, and curiosity. Take care y'all. Wishing everyone of you love and happiness.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

it always stop short somewhere.

you're way focused on the 'two!', but that's not really what's going on.

male + female is astonishing.

yes, two hands, two feet, two eyes.

but that's all contextual.

if the animals isn't bipedal, there are way more feet.

some animals have way more than two eyes.

what about one head?

what about one sun.

five fingers.

five toes.

yeah. the pair thing is interesting but it stops very short, very soon.

you acting like you discovered some brand new prime number or some shit.

i think the golden mean e is more interesting to ponder.

but that goes far beyond the number two.

…then proceeded to post about how everything comes in twos.

Two hands! Two feet! Two brains! Binary Code! Double Helix(double=two!)! War/Peace! Good/Bad! YIN AND YANG!!

Which, ok, I mean… alright. Hey, let’s see where he ‘s going with it…

… and then you posit an entirely baseless question: “Is it possible that we live in a parallel universe model? and that our universe is interacting with one other universe?”

It’s the sort of pondering that sounds incredibly deep and provocative when you’re 13 years old, but laughably shallow and simple-minded to most people no later than age 17.

But again… let’s see where you go with it. Turns out, not very far.

Well, yeah, sure. It’s possible. I guess it’s also possible that we’re all in a massive shared dream and don’t actually exist. We can ask a gazillion open-ended questions about things that are “possible” and never be wrong because there’s no definitive, concrete proof that it’s wrong. In this case, there’s no definitive, concrete wrong answer to your question but that doesn’t make it any less absurd. There’s nothing about so-called “duality” that even remotely suggests a parallel universe model. While string theory presents interesting notions of multiple universes, your “eureka!!” moment regarding “duality”presents absolutely zero basis for your question. It just comes across like you’re a 14 year old stoner who just got a better grade bag than usual.

So yeah, if you think this was some sort of groundbreaking, earth shattering, perspective altering ‘mind fuck’? Then yeah, this is the wrong place for you. Fortunately for you, Myspace has made a comeback and youtube is still going strong.

don't take it so seriously and also consider the fact that what you're saying may no be as profound as you think.

For real it does read like someone's first peyote experience at Burning Man. Maybe the universe brought you here to help you not take yourself so seriously. Did you ever think of that?

And if you're catching feelings from a forum I feel bad for you son

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You displayed hubris by assuming that your ideas were profound and ground breaking when they lack both.

Try again

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

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y'all cold.

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.

and here we are crucifying the man for bringing
the same ancient wisom that we rejected years ago.

you all can't see the connections.

jesus trained at the same mystery schools as plato,
who got ancient wisdom from kemet,
and they spoke of the inner wisdom of the duality that surrounds us.

the fact that this BLACK message board can't see that is amazing.
but not surprising.

this is why our ppl fail.


smh.

Plato, Socrates, and their ilk had African ghostwriters.

True some of what he's saying is old, and I really doubt any of it is foreign to the averag OKP, but it's the manner that he's going about "spreading" it that's irritating the shit out of everyone.

(dammit... I can't spell for shit today...)

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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D

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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

I'll stop.

and ruined it

LOL

I had next to no sense of humor earlier.


... Still don't, but it's bedtime soon.
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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D

I didn't know that.

which is how he arrives at this juvenile description.


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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D

"At the quantum scale, space is a writhing, frantic, ever-changing foam, with particles popping into existence and disappearing in the wink of an eye. This is not just a theoretical idea—it's confirmed. How can this bizarre idea be true?"

http://www.fnal.gov/pub/today/archive/archive_2013/today13-02-01_NutshellReadmore.html

I have heard this mentioned countless times in scientific documentaries.

Quantum computing is built on this idea, where an atom can be at two places at once and thus produce a more powerful computing machine.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

In principle it can happen with entire atoms, but the probability is minuscule, compared to more basic particles.

The bigger problem is that you know nothing of what this all means. Quantum computing has nothing to do with pair production and annihilation. You seem to be mixing it up with entanglement, an entirely different effect from an entirely different field of physics.

>
>In principle it can happen with entire atoms, but the
>probability is minuscule, compared to more basic particles.
>
>The bigger problem is that you know nothing of what this all
>means. Quantum computing has nothing to do with pair
>production and annihilation. You seem to be mixing it up with
>entanglement, an entirely different effect from an entirely
>different field of physics.
>

If you have some time, I'd love to hear you elaborate on quantum computing more.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

By it's very definition, the bigger and hotter an object gets, the less improbable its position. Once you get past quantum particles into atoms, the probabilities of them seemingly "appearing from nowhere" becomes absolutely miniscule.

Atoms were fused from quantum particles (in turn created from raw energy) in the conditions following the Big Bang; they do not randomly pop into existence.

Energy, sure. Sub-atomic particles, likely. Atoms? You're stretching it A LOT.

Try not to collapse every idea into every other one. Quantum Mechanics is amazing, but most Quantum Physicists spend their lives starting sentences "Nice thought, but it's not quite that simple..."

>At the quantum scale, space is a writhing, frantic,
>ever-changing foam, with particles popping into existence and
>disappearing in the wink of an eye. This is not just a
>theoretical idea—it's confirmed. How can this bizarre idea
>be true?"
>
>http://www.fnal.gov/pub/today/archive/archive_2013/today13-02-01_NutshellReadmore.html
>
>I have heard this mentioned countless times in scientific
>documentaries.
>
>Quantum computing is built on this idea, where an atom can be
>at two places at once and thus produce a more powerful
>computing machine.

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Well maybe if he wasn't a douche that would help but he is attempting to post about something other than the usual suspects.

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but after making a number of threads with undercooked ideas, you would think the OP would figure out how to post.


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You lead off with that condescending bullshit, talking like you’re on some higher plain of understanding/knowledge/what have you, you’re going to get shit for it.

and cringe-worthy at worst.


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Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D

Lower evolutionary life is symmetrical radially, like a starfish

But when an organism moves in one direction relative to its body ie forward, sensory organs need to be on the end that encounters the environment first, and the structures that allow for locomotion need to be balanced on both sides of the sagittal plane. Basically you have 2 legs so that you dont walk in circles.

2 eyes are necessary for stereoscopic vision, and 2 ears are necessary for balanced audio levels in the brain.

"Atheism will be the next world religion. And the internet is its bible."

Just IMO though.

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Opposites come in pairs. That's how they work.

>Life & Death
>Good & Bad
>War & Peace
>Rich & Poor
>Materialist & Spiritualist
>Atheist & Non Atheist

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Nothing that is deemed as an opposite can exist independently of the other.

>Opposites come in pairs. That's how they work.
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>>Life & Death

The relationship between life and death is inseparable. You cannot have Life without Death, and you cannot have Death without Life. They are the same process expressing itself differently. *They cannot exist independently to one another.

>>Good & Bad
>>War & Peace
>>Rich & Poor
>>Materialist & Spiritualist
>>Atheist & Non Atheist
>

In every case, 1 is dependent on the other to exist, so how can they be opposites?

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

>Nothing that is deemed as an opposite can exist independently
>of the other.

This is just a failure to understand what an opposite is, surely? The same being can't be both alive and dead, *obviously*, but clearly both states exist in the world. There are living people and corpses. And their bodies are in exactly opposite states from each other.

Clearly white (and I'm talking colours, not skin tones!) is opposite to black. One has all the colour. One has none of the colour. They're opposites. Obviously. Black's not very common, but it exists. White exists all over the place.

Is Yes not the opposite of No? Seriously, what's hard to understand about opposites? I'm obviously missing something.

>>Opposites come in pairs. That's how they work.
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>>>Life & Death
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>The relationship between life and death is inseparable. You
>cannot have Life without Death, and you cannot have Death
>without Life.

Tell that to an immortal jellyfish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii

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>>Nothing that is deemed as an opposite can exist
>independently
>>of the other.
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>This is just a failure to understand what an opposite is. The
>same being can't be both alive and dead, *obviously*, but
>clearly both states exist in the world. There are living
>people and corpses. And their bodies are in exactly opposite
>states from each other.
>

Death cannot exist independently on it's own. Life cannot exist independently on it's own. The presence of life points to the absence of it. They are in a relationship that cannot be separated into two parts. You cannot have the foreground without the background. Pointing to a corpse and pointing to a living body is identifying the same process at varied states of itself.

We would be unable to identify anything as dead if there was no life to contrast it.

>>>Opposites come in pairs. That's how they work.
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>>>>Life & Death
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>>The relationship between life and death is inseparable. You
>>cannot have Life without Death, and you cannot have Death
>>without Life.
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>Tell that to an immortal jellyfish.
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii
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"Biological immortality refers to a stable or decreasing rate of mortality from cellular senescence as a function of chronological age. Various unicellular and multicellular species may achieve this state either throughout their existence or after living long enough. A biologically immortal living being can still die from means other than senescence, such as through injury or disease."

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

>Death cannot exist independently on it's own.

OK.

>Life cannot exist independently on it's own. The presence of life >points to the absence of it.

As the jellyfish shows, if you can continually renew yourself this needn't be the case, but I wasn't being terribly serious with that. Obviously the jellyfish can still be killed.

>They are in a relationship that cannot
>be separated into two parts. You cannot have the foreground
>without the background. Pointing to a corpse and pointing to a
>living body is identifying the same process at varied states
>of itself.

You're correct that an "opposite" situation can't exist without two counterparts. "Opposite" by definition requires two values at either end of a scale.

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>We would be unable to identify anything as dead if there was
>no life to contrast it.

Obviously.

Again, opposites are opposites. They can't exist without each other. It doesn't stop them being opposites. You're intentionally misconstruing a very simple concept to try and make yourself feel like you've made a discovery.


>"Biological immortality refers to a stable or decreasing rate
>of mortality from cellular senescence as a function of
>chronological age. Various unicellular and multicellular
>species may achieve this state either throughout their
>existence or after living long enough. A biologically immortal
>living being can still die from means other than senescence,
>such as through injury or disease."
>

Invoking the jellyfish was just me having a joke, you don't need to get too hung up on those bits, son.

I think your main problem is in separating individual units with the overall. If you look at the whole universe then obviously life and death both exist because my state of being has no impact on yours. If you look at an *individual*, the only measure of life that matters, obviously only one state can exist at a time.

Because they're opposites.

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>>They are in a relationship that cannot
>>be separated into two parts. You cannot have the foreground
>>without the background. Pointing to a corpse and pointing to
>a
>>living body is identifying the same process at varied states
>>of itself.
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>You're correct that an "opposite" situation can't exist
>without two counterparts. "Opposite" by definition requires
>two values at either end of a scale.
>

Stick with this thought. You said "at two ends of a scale".

The point I am making is that there is only one state, one "Scale" and we observe varying states of it, but ultimately, it is the same and one thing, that is inseparable.

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>Again, opposites are opposites. They can't exist without each
>other. It doesn't stop them being opposites. You're
>intentionally misconstruing a very simple concept to try and
>make yourself feel like you've made a discovery.

Ugh. Please stop with the psycho analysis. I have spared you from that torment and I treat you with a level of respect not to do that. If I did that, I could insult you as well. It's a primitive form of communication, I will not lower myself to that level.

I am interested in ideas and exploring them. I have no personal interest in exercising the ego. I had a thought which I think is interesting and I wanted to share out of sheer excitement. The fact that out think I did it in order to support a discovery is more telling of how you view yourself and the world, not me.

Look how much time we are wasting just working through the ego. Let's stick with the ideas and leave the personal stuff out of it please. If you are incapable of that, I can simply ignore you because I will not engage in primitive forms of communication.


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>Invoking the jellyfish was just me having a joke, you don't
>need to get too hung up on those bits, son.
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I am not your son.

>I think your main problem is in separating individual units
>with the overall. If you look at the whole universe then
>obviously life and death both exist because my state of being
>has no impact on yours. If you look at an *individual*, the
>only measure of life that matters, obviously only one state
>can exist at a time.
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>Because they're opposites.

I don't have a problem. I am communicating an idea to expand my horizons. Personally, I do not see opposites, it's fine with me that you do. All I wanted to illustrate is that it's the same thing expressing itself at various states of itself.

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>Stick with this thought. You said "at two ends of a scale".
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>The point I am making is that there is only one state, one
>"Scale" and we observe varying states of it, but ultimately,
>it is the same and one thing, that is inseparable.
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A scale isn't a state. It's a scale. A state isn't a scale. It's a state. One is a value, one is a range.

A scale is a hypothetical construct containing all possible values of a property. A state is the value that an *individual* takes on that scale.

They aren't one and the same thing any more than a touchdown and a football pitch are the same or water's boiling point and a thermometer are the same.

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