is it gives other people who @ best. @ their absolute BEST are benignly indifferent to the lives of masses of "others" a reason to not give a fuck.

& thats a 2 way street, the average Black person doesnt GAF abt immigration for example.

so i get that #alllivesmatter shit because! this is an issue that DOES impact...all people, that cant be denied.

its just sad that when Black people start talking abt Black shit, everyone else suddenly gets offended...but thats the world we in

*im generalizing here

so yeah "black lives matter" should be the call. "all lives matter" was Al Sharpton kowtowing to whitey

because they wont

or no relationship between ICE and the criminal justice system

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

but my usage of black above pertained to African Americans

so it's a bit bizarre to make that distinction
it's certainly not intended in the context of BLM

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

they're also the most publicized recent cases where arguably much of the civil unrest sprung up from

that was all I meant when I mentioned blacks in regards to Bin's statement that we dont care about immigrants

but just pointing out that BLM as a movement in response to those events is coming directly from a space connecting mass incarceration, police brutality to the immigration system, to the exploitation of immigrant labor, etc.

intentionally

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

because people see in those victims...themselves or their sons,fathers, brothers etc

when the victim is Rich Guy Bob from White Folks, VA or Emilio Ramirez or Hung Sun Kim do we not care? of course we do. do police not kill, Bob, Emilio & Hung Soo? of course they do.

now are they killed in the numbers Black men are? maybe not.

but it DOES happen. and police should be held accountable when that happens

by saying its Black Lives Matter...Emilio & Hung Soo & Bob are going to be like *shrug*

they gonna be like *shrug* in the majority anyway no matter what but we wont even get those good well meaning Bob, Emilio & Hung Soo if we say its a Black thing. thats just how human nature is


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anyone who cant see themselves in the fight for black equality probably wont get it anyway

I cant say that I'll be at feminist or gay pride marches any time soon because the issues dont affect me directly, but I care about how they're treated from a place of human decency

but yeah, anyone opposed to us expressly standing up for ourselves probably cant face the truth that we've had it worse than most in this country

>I cant say that I'll be at feminist or gay pride marches any
>time soon because the issues dont affect me directly,

& expect anyone to come to your marches or protests or whatever

lol

....

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

but I doubt the point is begging for anyone to pay attention. they're making loud statements that the world has been forced to see, shit was all over CNN on a Saturday afternoon

I'm not ignorant to the component that blackness plays in police harassment, but in places with high Latino populations you'll find pretty similar treatment. we can basically arrest someone for looking Mexican on the west coast. I'm not going to get into who has it worse because that's not my point.

I think Bin makes a good point that from a PR perspective there might be a way to make the movement more inclusive.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

I've ever read on here. like in a long time

others are not unfairly targeted by police? are you that ignorant?

it's a serious question?

you have never ever ever live in a predominately, non-African diaspora community? have you?

you do know ICE is responsible for DESTROYING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Latino families throughout the American southwest since the initiation of Operation Gatekeeper. ICE a federal force works in conjunction with local police forces. Literally arresting people who are American Citizens, deporting undocumented workers leaving their babies, sons, and daughters ALONE in homes for days at a time, killing and murdering people like pregnant woman living on the borderlands.

Op GateKeep is partly responsible for the insane violence that has exploded in Mexico in the past decade.

Gang Specific units, particularly in Southern California, target not only Black bodies, but Brown too. Twin towers isn't loaded up with Black faces, its loaded up with Mexicanos, Guatemalans, and Salvadorans "native" born and immigrant. Gang affiliated and poor as shit Brown Americans.

You know who has the highest drop out rate in Cali? Chicano males ages 13-18. With the school to prison pipeline, go visit them juve detention centers and see who is in them halls.

HELL FUCN YEAH Black Lives Matter, specifically because they tend to be the first "social body" the state targets in its regime of violence and control, but Police target, harass, arrest, and debilitate all sorts of communities all the time...

sit your oppression Olympics ass down

bull and shit.

you can have the gold medal in this olympics of misery, but you can't be all alone on the stand.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

i mean, yeah...ALL lives matter. but the trouble w/that is it doesn't address the specific stuff that we blacks are talking about. so like they can come up w/solutions that please whitey (b/c ALL lives matter) and our stuff is still left unattended/unaddressed.

fuck you.

for being suspects in crimes or for scaring police or being mentally ill or whatever

and white ppl get killed, gay people, rich people, children etc

are Black men killed most often, yes. but that doesnt mean there isnt a bunch of everyone being killed

fuck you.

i just live in this world i didnt make it


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are you a man first or black?

are you a father first or black?

are you a DC resident first or black?

again: stfu.

fuck you.

the most important designator or signifier for me...is Blackness

its not for you. thats fine. but it is for me


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b/c you don't deserve to know.

you are too much part of the problem to know. you can't handle it.

fuck you.

you said, stop acting like gays aint Black.

i said which is more important.

you said ill never know because i am part of the problem

maybe. i know theres obviously black gays. shit youre black & youre gay. duh.

one supersedes tho. you know it. its ok. keep it to yourself. it'll be your lil secret.


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and that is why you are part of the problem. and you'll remain so until you are ready to actually listen. but you're not so i'm not talking about it.

and it doesn't matter b/c we don't and won't know each other so this is all unreal anyway. but if we ever did know each other or god forbid work w/each other on anything i'd set you str8 forthwith.

fuck you.

i found that amusing.

im not sure what your mad abt. i said either being gay or being Black supersedes...you seem to think you are both simultaneously & in equal degrees. ok. who am i to disagree? - prince

but for ME being Black is the most defining characteristic i have. thats just how it is. i think youre upset that im binary. too bad. in my head your my flamboyant gay friend. i picture you like a bald kyle barker like you wear a lot of scarves & big prints & swoosh in & out of rooms. cmon...gimme a hug (platonically of course because you repulse me sexually


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fuck you.

ew.


does it really matter?

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fuck you.

Black Lives Matter affirms the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, Black-undocumented folks, folks with records, women and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. It centers those that have been marginalized within Black liberation movements. It is a tactic to (re)build the Black liberation movement.

this is BLM ^^^^^^^^^^^

what you are posting about is something else

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

the police brutality thing, OVERALL...its specifically abt (duh) the Black people (of all creeds & mottos & sexualitys & isms, schisms, whatever) who are victims of police brutality

got it.


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an even higher disproportionate rate of criminalization and violence from the police and prison systems.

Saying that Black Lives Matter being about Black people of varying experiences makes it NOT about police violence is just inaccurate. It just doesn't work. For real.

you see how many people been deported under the Obama administration?

that is what many people who show up to protest are solely thinking
but it's not the end all of the BLM movement

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

but we need as many voices to speak out as possible.. so someone who agrees with police reform but may not attach it directly to mike brown or eric garner should be included as well...

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no, thanks.

fuck you.

How do we get a large enough swath of the population to care then?

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Yea I don't get the push back for #alllivesmatter

Especially after this weekend

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(to me) "all lives matter" is the equivalent of "yeah the Hip-Hop police exist, but shut up mentioning it because pop artists can be unfairly targeted as well"

Nah...

Here is ultimately my issue.. we are picking and choosing who is worthy of life..

Mike & Eric die.. outrage..

We watched Kajime Powell murdered on video and the outrage is on some.. ehhh well he was crazy.... eeehh well he had a knife..

We only see value in people that "we" deem somehow valuable to society therefore they get to live.. even within Black Lives Matter

So imo all lives matter... all these people are the same.. under represented, under educated and at the bottom of the totem pole..

even the cops.. only difference is they were given a shiny badge. But there critical thinking skills are on par with the people they police.. squeeze first ask questions last

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which is fine I guess

but the meaning being applied everywhere else is "Black power is too scary and angry, let's dilute it"

Most people don't give a sh*t about most things until it directly affects them.

The passionate folks always seems to forget that.

The stat that I keep going back to is that 75% of white folks don't have any non-white friends and I think that is the most important stat when you consider who you are dealing with.

Even Rudy Giuliani wouldn't say half the shit he does if he had a homey named Lamount who did not work for him who he regularly discussed these issues with.



>is it gives other people who @ best. @ their absolute BEST
>are benignly indifferent to the lives of masses of "others" a
>reason to not give a fuck.
>
>& thats a 2 way street, the average Black person doesnt GAF
>abt immigration for example.
>
>so i get that #alllivesmatter shit because! this is an issue
>that DOES impact...all people, that cant be denied.
>
>its just sad that when Black people start talking abt Black
>shit, everyone else suddenly gets offended...but thats the
>world we in
>
>


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/

i mean FRIENDS.

not coworkers.

maybe its just me but my world is super duper Black

i imagine most ppl world is really of one ethnicity or another

that doesnt mean i cant recognize when some shit is fucked up for other people. ie gays. gays wanna get married. im not gay. dont know no gay people except sowhat for real & i wouldnt know sowhat if he walked up to my door w/ some pizza right now. but right is right. get married, gays.

but when Black people say hey world this is some shit that is really impacting US everyone else seems to be like "....and?"

& maybe thats just human nature because like i said the average Black person dont give a fuck abt hell...poppy cultivation & heroin addiction in afghanistan as a result of us policy. im that NPR, economist reading type. thats me

but even tho im like hella aware i still dont have any white friends. i think thats kinda normal. shouldnt keep one from knowing right from wrong tho.


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Coolin...

i hope a byproduct of alllivesmatter is getting folk to learn about what's truly behind BLM

http://thefeministwire.com/2014/10/blacklivesmatter-2/

Black Lives Matter is a unique contribution that goes beyond extrajudicial killings of Black people by police and vigilantes. It goes beyond the narrow nationalism that can be prevalent within some Black communities, which merely call on Black people to love Black, live Black and buy Black, keeping straight cis Black men in the front of the movement while our sisters, queer and trans and disabled folk take up roles in the background or not at all. Black Lives Matter affirms the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, Black-undocumented folks, folks with records, women and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. It centers those that have been marginalized within Black liberation movements. It is a tactic to (re)build the Black liberation movement.
...

When you drop “Black” from the equation of whose lives matter, and then fail to acknowledge it came from somewhere, you further a legacy of erasing Black lives and Black contributions from our movement legacy. And consider whether or not when dropping the Black you are, intentionally or unintentionally, erasing Black folks from the conversation or homogenizing very different experiences. The legacy and prevalence of anti-Black racism and hetero-patriarchy is a lynch pin holding together this unsustainable economy. And that’s not an accidental analogy.

In 2014, hetero-patriarchy and anti-Black racism within our movement is real and felt. It’s killing us and it’s killing our potential to build power for transformative social change. When you adopt the work of queer women of color, don’t name or recognize it, and promote it as if it has no history of its own such actions are problematic. When I use Assata’s powerful demand in my organizing work, I always begin by sharing where it comes from, sharing about Assata’s significance to the Black Liberation Movement, what it’s political purpose and message is, and why it’s important in our context.

- alicia garza

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

ill be the ignorant person & say i dont get it.

the gist i think was dropping Black from Black lives matter erases the Black presence in the movement & that is not valid IMO because you know the people walking out on the highways & laying down in die ins ARE mainly Black people

theres a long history of Black people providing the morality in this country, by stepping out & framing an issue as something that impacts us all we can be a unity movement here

still abt that progression still abt change...but as a solid bloc instead of just us out here chanting abt Black Lives Matter when its been shown that they only matter to us


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you had rabbis getting arrested in a BLM protest
you have asians shutting it down for BLM in Oakland
you have multiracial, ethnic groups of everybody across the country under BLM

why because:

When Black people get free, everybody gets free

that's how simple it is - no SAT words necessary

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

people like him are very rare

im saying in order to take it from that rare, vanguard 1 in 1000 type person who isnt Black taking part in the protest & getting it to a real mass movement...

you have to make people feel like they are fighting for themselves


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how many more people do you need to see behind this movement?
did you see the aerial photos of Washington Square Park in NYC?
do you see how many cities across the country this is taking place in ?

the objective is for people like you to understand truly what BLM is about and when you come down to march you realize you are marching for ALL black lives

and stop the nonsense you were just doing up there to SoWhat

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

If folks can't admit that Black people are the targets of this system, and aren't willing to say that out loud, do we need them to be a part of "the movement"?

-a whitey.

so you don't get it.

they're saying that BLM should retain the 'Black' and in the process should NOT seek to marginalize those of us ***********BLACKS*************** who are not STRAIGHT BLACK MEN.

fucker.

fuck you.

fuck you.

im saying it has to go to All Lives Matter BECAUSE by keeping it Black Lives Matter you are giving people who want to not care a reason to not care

and also turning off people who WANT to care but feel like its not abt them

im not sure how it went from expanding who this police brutality thing impacts (ie everybody) to marginalizing Black gays or (cis)? people

i think you maybe "gas lighting" here.

i learned that on twitter.


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fuck you.

that shes saying what you saying but youre too dumb and ignorant to get it thing?

yeah. that.

inaccurate. erroneous. offbase. incorrect. mistaken. fallacious. unsound. imprecise. misguided. WIIIIDE of center. etc.

your apology is accepted.


does it really matter?

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fuck you.

until you understand what Black Lives Matters stands for

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami