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"Q-Tip Gives Iggy Azalea A Hip-Hop History Lesson On Twitter "


  

          

http://www.vibe.com/article/q-tip-hip-hop-lesson-iggy-azalea-twitter


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what prompted all this?
Dec 21st 2014
1
Iggy responded lamely/ignorantly to the interview
Dec 21st 2014
3
What is Iggy supposed to do or say at this point?
Dec 21st 2014
13
      RE: What is Iggy supposed to do or say at this point?
Dec 21st 2014
19
      She's from country NSW, Australia.
Dec 23rd 2014
208
      a small step would be the same move we requested of denny in that
Dec 21st 2014
20
           I don't disagree
Dec 21st 2014
35
RE: what prompted all this?
Dec 21st 2014
4
      RE: what prompted all this?
Dec 21st 2014
6
      Action never said, "you people"...
Dec 21st 2014
12
           So what did he actually say?
Dec 21st 2014
15
           Lol i though u read it
Dec 21st 2014
16
           what are you talking about?
Dec 21st 2014
18
           Ur in such a frenzy u don't even know who ur replying to
Dec 21st 2014
21
                LOL
Dec 21st 2014
44
                seriously...lol.
Dec 21st 2014
47
                Lmao. Not surprised either
Dec 21st 2014
59
                WHOOOMP THERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 22nd 2014
100
           RE: So what did he actually say?
Dec 21st 2014
22
                pssssh figures he would
Dec 21st 2014
23
                Lmao whet?
Dec 21st 2014
43
           RE: Action never said, "you people"...
Dec 21st 2014
25
           I came in here to say this
Dec 21st 2014
87
                who's the civil rights activist for white people?
Dec 22nd 2014
119
                     basically
Dec 22nd 2014
122
                     more likely he deleted it cuz he knew people would willfully misinterpre...
Dec 22nd 2014
192
                          RE: more likely he deleted it cuz he knew people would willfully misinte...
Dec 24th 2014
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                     Not even close to accurate...
Dec 22nd 2014
172
                          okay
Dec 22nd 2014
175
                               okay, player...
Dec 22nd 2014
176
                               shit was out of line, period.
Dec 23rd 2014
272
Bruh wasting his time. Iggy don't give a damn about no hip hop history
Dec 21st 2014
2
RE: I really wonder if this shit is starting to hurt her career wise?
Dec 21st 2014
5
RE: I really wonder if this shit is starting to hurt her career wise?
Dec 21st 2014
7
If folks stop wanting to collab and co-sign her, yeah.
Dec 21st 2014
8
Everyone wants to make money...
Dec 21st 2014
69
Tough call
Dec 21st 2014
9
Has she ever had a decent live performance?
Dec 21st 2014
10
None of these pop stars have decent performances
Dec 21st 2014
14
Yup. This is the "rap music" white girls have been waiting for
Dec 21st 2014
24
eh, she can just about face and do a Pink.
Dec 21st 2014
11
^^^^
Dec 21st 2014
17
Iggy f Colin Haye: Men@Twurk
Dec 21st 2014
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RE: eh, she can just about face and do a Pink.
Dec 21st 2014
28
      RE: eh, she can just about face and do a Pink.
Dec 21st 2014
30
      RE: eh, she can just about face and do a Pink.
Dec 21st 2014
45
      RE: she can't sing...cuz, that's stopped other 'pop' stars from
Dec 21st 2014
40
      RE: she can't sing...cuz, that's stopped other 'pop' stars from
Dec 21st 2014
46
           I dunno
Dec 21st 2014
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           RE: I dunno
Dec 22nd 2014
126
                wait
Dec 22nd 2014
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                RE: wait
Dec 22nd 2014
145
                     Ahhhh
Dec 22nd 2014
188
                Bruh Nicki Minaj cannot sing.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     RE: Bruh Nicki Minaj cannot sing.
Dec 23rd 2014
243
                          No.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                               RE: No.
Dec 23rd 2014
263
           jennifer lopez.
Dec 21st 2014
56
           Kate Perry cant sing..
Dec 21st 2014
76
                Nope. Firework is not an easy song to sing...
Dec 21st 2014
88
                     I was finna say Katy can sing. Not SANG but she can sing.
Dec 22nd 2014
136
      Well, that never stopped J.Lo or Drake
Dec 22nd 2014
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           RE: Well, that never stopped J.Lo or Drake
Dec 22nd 2014
128
                RE: Well, that never stopped J.Lo or Drake
Dec 22nd 2014
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                     RE: Well, that never stopped J.Lo or Drake
Dec 23rd 2014
244
RE: I really wonder if this shit is starting to hurt her career wise?
Dec 21st 2014
33
Yup, and with TI propping her up and gasing her she thinks the Blks
Dec 21st 2014
27
TI disappointed me by co-signing her
Dec 21st 2014
29
      RE: TI disappointed me by co-signing her
Dec 21st 2014
38
           RE: TI disappointed me by co-signing her
Dec 21st 2014
49
                IDK about this. How do you explain Dana Dane's success and Slick Rick's
Dec 21st 2014
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                     RE: IDK about this. How do you explain Dana Dane's success and Slick Ric...
Dec 22nd 2014
104
                     they was 30 years ago
Dec 22nd 2014
107
                          Looks like you may need a Twitter Hip Hop history lesson, yourself.
Dec 22nd 2014
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                               they get play today because they are carried classics.
Dec 23rd 2014
269
                                    For whatever reason they get play today, how many of the tracks that
Dec 23rd 2014
283
                                         That's in your stuck in the 90s mindset.
Dec 23rd 2014
287
                                              AGAIN, these are EIGHTIES tracks, NOT 90's.
Dec 23rd 2014
289
                                                   Wait, are you Black???
Dec 24th 2014
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                                                        Yes I am. The better question is are you Black?
Dec 24th 2014
300
^^^^^^^^^^
Dec 21st 2014
57
Thank you!
Dec 21st 2014
58
Wreckx-N-Effect just gave Tip a lesson too lol
Dec 21st 2014
26
huh?
Dec 21st 2014
31
      sarcasm.
Dec 21st 2014
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           RE: sarcasm.
Dec 21st 2014
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           lol i know right
Dec 21st 2014
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           RE: sarcasm.
Dec 21st 2014
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                Sorry but its hard to take his "education" serious
Dec 21st 2014
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                RE: Sorry but its hard to take his "education" serious
Dec 21st 2014
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                if that was his point then thats fair i guess.
Dec 21st 2014
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                meh
Dec 21st 2014
61
                Lmao. U dont see a difference between Weezy and iggy ?!
Dec 21st 2014
62
                     Oh. God.
Dec 21st 2014
                     more deserving of a Zulu Nation membership: Iggy or Weezy?
Dec 21st 2014
83
                     Oh. God.
Dec 21st 2014
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                You don't think that's condescending?
Dec 21st 2014
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                     RE: You don't think that's condescending?
Dec 21st 2014
91
                          Point taken on white privilege but....
Dec 22nd 2014
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                               RE: Point taken on white privilege but....
Dec 22nd 2014
112
Why is this only addressed to Iggy?
Dec 21st 2014
50
Because she is white so its logical to people lol
Dec 21st 2014
51
She's a foreigner doing her best southern accent
Dec 21st 2014
60
lol thanks for the lesson
Dec 21st 2014
67
totally see why you would bring up Drake up first in this conversation
Dec 21st 2014
84
RE: She's a foreigner doing her best southern accent
Dec 22nd 2014
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see also: WHAT ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME?!
Dec 21st 2014
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      LMFAO
Dec 22nd 2014
99
      Welp
Dec 22nd 2014
189
Well because she's at the top as far as popularity goes
Dec 21st 2014
52
She's making trash music that appeals to the masses just like...
Dec 21st 2014
54
She's making trash music that appeals to the masses just like...
Dec 21st 2014
55
why not?
Dec 21st 2014
63
'CISM!!!!!
Dec 21st 2014
65
who cares?
Dec 21st 2014
53
"@IGGYAZALEA I've been on twitter a long time and this will probably
Dec 21st 2014
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I learned about Twitter from Tip, too, in '07.
Dec 22nd 2014
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      i never thought it would take off like it did
Dec 23rd 2014
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some people only love Hip Hop because it's "cool" to
Dec 21st 2014
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is it still cool?
Dec 21st 2014
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      "cool" is young people shit
Dec 21st 2014
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           do they consider it hip-hop?
Dec 21st 2014
75
Azalea banks needs to stop counting iggy's money
Dec 21st 2014
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RE: Azalea banks needs to stop counting iggy's money
Dec 21st 2014
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did the west coast make any contribution to hip hop yet?
Dec 21st 2014
82
of all the rappers, this is who he chooses to give his "lesson" to
Dec 21st 2014
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by giving it to her, hes spraying the masses...not to mention she
Dec 21st 2014
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no...he was addressing everyone...he started and then said , 'wait, let
Dec 21st 2014
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i wouldn't even give it the time of day if i was her.
Dec 21st 2014
79
You would've thunk T.I. ( the other Tip)
Dec 21st 2014
81
ATL Tip 10 years younger than NYC Tip so he wouldn't know the history ei...
Dec 21st 2014
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Ti is married to a black woman who just had a blue eyeball transplant
Dec 21st 2014
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T.I is speaking on it at this moment lol
Dec 21st 2014
89
Good to see him admit big bruh Tip was right
Dec 21st 2014
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      T.I trying to protect his cash cow and keep his hood card
Dec 22nd 2014
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           RE: T.I trying to protect his cash cow and keep his hood card
Dec 22nd 2014
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why didnt they do this to eminem>?
Dec 21st 2014
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because he's actually talented.
Dec 21st 2014
97
not only that but hes pretty knowledgeable where hip hop is concerned
Dec 22nd 2014
108
      Not to mention he IS being himself.
Dec 22nd 2014
127
           word to all of that
Dec 22nd 2014
131
diffferent approach. Em was hip hop before pop.
Dec 22nd 2014
109
somebody forward this to Nicki Minaj too
Dec 21st 2014
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For what purpose?
Dec 22nd 2014
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      maybe if she get's a refresher on the history of hip hop
Dec 22nd 2014
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      Should someone forward it to Curtis Blow too?
Dec 22nd 2014
120
           It's Kurtis...
Dec 22nd 2014
125
                True.
Dec 22nd 2014
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      Everything!
Dec 22nd 2014
110
           Gonna need specifics...
Dec 22nd 2014
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Q-Tip wasted an hour of his life
Dec 22nd 2014
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As wack as Iggy Az is as a rapper and a person, I'm starting to feel bad...
Dec 22nd 2014
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you really think..
Dec 22nd 2014
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      that's fair, but why give her the attention at all
Dec 22nd 2014
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           oh i agree...
Dec 22nd 2014
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           he's trying to enlighten her
Dec 22nd 2014
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                it's validating her existence to many hiphop heads
Dec 22nd 2014
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                     RE: it's validating her existence to many hiphop heads
Dec 22nd 2014
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                     in 2014 (I dont think) Q-TIP from a defunct group is
Dec 23rd 2014
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I'm still not sure people understand how the internet works
Dec 22nd 2014
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he wasn't trying to invalidate her tho
Dec 22nd 2014
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explain how he's validating her?
Dec 22nd 2014
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      can you see it yet?
Dec 23rd 2014
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People are still upset about Grammys? For any reason ever?
Dec 22nd 2014
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i agree with all of this.
Dec 22nd 2014
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The Grammys are taken seriously though
Dec 22nd 2014
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thank you.
Dec 22nd 2014
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HALLELUJAH!!!!!
Dec 22nd 2014
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yup....the grammys isn't a
Dec 22nd 2014
135
yes...
Dec 22nd 2014
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RE: People are still upset about Grammys? For any reason ever?
Dec 22nd 2014
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Why her?
Dec 22nd 2014
133
It probably has a lot to do with her extra layer of appropriation
Dec 22nd 2014
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sure, but
Dec 22nd 2014
139
      She's definitely indignant about it for sure, but I don't
Dec 22nd 2014
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           ok
Dec 22nd 2014
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                No doubt
Dec 22nd 2014
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there's not even a
Dec 22nd 2014
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u guys really dont think this is the action of a condescending dick?
Dec 22nd 2014
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you would think that.
Dec 22nd 2014
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why is that?
Dec 22nd 2014
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      fits in with a lotta other view points you have expressed before
Dec 22nd 2014
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           interesting
Dec 22nd 2014
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i really don't.
Dec 22nd 2014
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i think its the medium.
Dec 22nd 2014
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      her responses happened on Twitter, so he addressed them
Dec 22nd 2014
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I think you're the only one that thinks that
Dec 22nd 2014
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RE: u guys really dont think this is the action of a condescending dick?...
Dec 22nd 2014
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sometimes, but not every time
Dec 22nd 2014
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it's on you to prove this
Dec 22nd 2014
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you want me to prove that i think something?
Dec 22nd 2014
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      no. i wanted you to flesh out your stated idea
Dec 22nd 2014
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           well i just sort of did in 165
Dec 22nd 2014
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Nope! fuck Igloo
Dec 22nd 2014
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i really wish you were 1/3rd as intellectually honest and
Dec 22nd 2014
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for one, i dont see a point in just cosigning everything
Dec 22nd 2014
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      i can respect this reply
Dec 22nd 2014
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      Its not about consigning everything
Dec 22nd 2014
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           RE: Its not about consigning everything
Dec 22nd 2014
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                RE: Its not about consigning everything
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     LMAO merry christmas!
Dec 23rd 2014
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RE: u guys really dont think this is the action of a condescending dick?...
Dec 22nd 2014
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      lol
Dec 22nd 2014
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on the Grammy's...everyone says they ain't shit UNTIL they win one...
Dec 22nd 2014
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I'm sayin tho...
Dec 22nd 2014
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Lets review
Dec 22nd 2014
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iggy does have 3.57 mill followers, tho
Dec 22nd 2014
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RE: Lets review
Dec 22nd 2014
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^^^^^^^^^
Dec 22nd 2014
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I was wrong. She doesn't care. Which is cool
Dec 23rd 2014
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Yeah it almost comes as patronizing
Dec 22nd 2014
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This reminds me of the early 90's
Dec 22nd 2014
180
Lupe Fiasco weighs in
Dec 22nd 2014
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RE: Lupe Fiasco weighs in
Dec 22nd 2014
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RE: Lupe Fiasco weighs in
Dec 22nd 2014
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      RE: Lupe Fiasco weighs in
Dec 23rd 2014
241
Lmao. Lupe actin' out while his PR team on xmas vacay.
Dec 23rd 2014
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she said Q-Tip was patronizing...welp...good bye hip hop in the history
Dec 22nd 2014
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lol Iggy is not that powerful
Dec 22nd 2014
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you really think those were HER thoughts/words all these hours later? k.
Dec 23rd 2014
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Man I told you guys, she don't give a fuck.
Dec 22nd 2014
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She basically said fuck him and I ain't playing hip hop squares with yal...
Dec 23rd 2014
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      i kind of like the fuck it attitude....is that not hip hop lol
Dec 23rd 2014
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           Lol I dunno what they want that girl to do.
Dec 23rd 2014
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           right? LOL
Dec 23rd 2014
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           RE: i kind of like the fuck it attitude....is that not hip hop lol
Dec 23rd 2014
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                Nick you just named the 3 Black friends you have
Dec 23rd 2014
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                RE: Nick you just named the 3 Black friends you have
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     Lol okay dense Danny
Dec 23rd 2014
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                RE: i kind of like the fuck it attitude....is that not hip hop lol
Dec 23rd 2014
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The real Igloo Spears before the fake southern accent: (link)
Dec 23rd 2014
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oh and never forget
Dec 23rd 2014
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Not really.
Dec 23rd 2014
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don't let double ok see this.
Dec 23rd 2014
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      RE: don't let double ok see this.
Dec 23rd 2014
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I (mostly) agree with cgonz00cc.
Dec 23rd 2014
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please explain. how is it factually incorrect?
Dec 23rd 2014
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      The notion that hip-hop's roots are in activism/black struggle.
Dec 23rd 2014
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           you mean you agree w/kelving-bammer...
Dec 23rd 2014
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                Funny... I just saw that post after I made my reply too
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     but there wasn't that much hip hop before The Message
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     There were parties, though. And there were tapes of parties.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                          I'm old bruh, i was born before hip hop was birthed
Dec 23rd 2014
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                               I was very much there too, thank you very much.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     Wait... what does "ski" allude to?
Dec 23rd 2014
228
                     Correct, sir.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                          Wow! All these years and I never knew that.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                               "Cousin had me laced out SKIED all outta my face"
Dec 24th 2014
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                     so?
Dec 23rd 2014
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                          exactly... HH wasn't defined back in the late 70's early 80's
Dec 23rd 2014
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                          The Last Poets have been retroactively assimilated
Dec 23rd 2014
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                               so i guess ppl who were @ those parties and heard those LP
Dec 23rd 2014
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                                    I've not heard about those records being played at parties
Dec 23rd 2014
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                                         yes, i can.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                                              Awwww... come on, man.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                                                   fine w/me.
Dec 23rd 2014
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It has been fascinating to watch this play out. So many ASSumptions
Dec 23rd 2014
206
yeah i dont thk ANY one coulda seen all this coming lol
Dec 23rd 2014
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if i was her i would laugh in that nigga face
Dec 23rd 2014
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seriously
Dec 23rd 2014
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Meanwhile in La la land iggy doesnt give a fuck like someone said
Dec 23rd 2014
222
godDAMN. That thing is fuckin TOUGH.
Dec 23rd 2014
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RE: Meanwhile in La la land iggy doesnt give a fuck like someone said
Dec 23rd 2014
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THATS how you get a ring, ladies
Dec 23rd 2014
229
by buying niggas cars?
Dec 23rd 2014
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      RE: by buying niggas cars?
Dec 23rd 2014
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      And ain't nothin wrong with that.
Dec 23rd 2014
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      its called loyalty. its called being down for the team
Dec 23rd 2014
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      Not really
Dec 23rd 2014
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      yall want the same pay
Dec 23rd 2014
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      Lol @ a car being a symbol of loyalty.
Dec 24th 2014
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      by buying him ANYTHING
Dec 23rd 2014
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      to me its like give me the same access to your money
Dec 23rd 2014
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      How am I cheap?
Dec 23rd 2014
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           it was a joke...
Dec 23rd 2014
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                No
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     because you floss about how you dont pay to be in Sections
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     Lol nigga you asked me a question and I answered it.
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     pats you on head
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     Thanks, I've been trying to find a person for that
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     haha hell yeah. where have i been?
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     lmao
Dec 24th 2014
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                     REPLY OF THE YEAR
Dec 23rd 2014
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                          Don't you even dare start
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     lol
Dec 23rd 2014
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                     lmao
Dec 24th 2014
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      Yea, mfkas trippin in here.
Dec 24th 2014
294
o...her "real" friends
Dec 23rd 2014
258
lmao, meanwhile
Dec 23rd 2014
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      well that's disrespectful
Dec 23rd 2014
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      I'm just talkin shit lol
Dec 23rd 2014
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      man hes riding w/ his homies! DAMN. she knows where that fool is
Dec 24th 2014
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ONCE AGAIN WHITE GIRLS SHOW HOW ITS DONE!
Dec 23rd 2014
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condescending as hell and i hope her next album is illmatic 2
Dec 23rd 2014
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RE: i hope her next album is TRILLmatic
Dec 23rd 2014
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thank you lol
Dec 23rd 2014
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yeah..
Dec 23rd 2014
284
that would be hilarious
Dec 23rd 2014
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awww.
Dec 23rd 2014
288
Damn why did lupe go off deep end? Who was that nutty nigga talking to?
Dec 23rd 2014
285
Lol Lupe went full Loopy with them tweets
Dec 24th 2014
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lol damn there's a whole lot of Care going into this.
Dec 23rd 2014
290

SimplyHannah
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1. "what prompted all this?"
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That Azealia Banks interview? Is he just trying to follow up with a more proper and palatable lesson than Azealia was trying to dish or did Iggy actually do something this time?

  

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bonitaapplebaum71481
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3. "Iggy responded lamely/ignorantly to the interview "
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Tip hit her up in the tweets to educate her about the genre she's supposedly top of the game in....

  

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SimplyHannah
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13. "What is Iggy supposed to do or say at this point?"
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Just drop her schtik that ppl ate up? Shes just doing what she genuinely thinks hiphop/rap music is, which IMO is really no different from what all the other women in hip hop/ rap are doing or have done with the exception of like Missy Elliot and Lauren Hill. If folks are upset about her presence and popularity in " hip hop " the ones that need to be adressed are the folks giving her the ability to do so (TI) and those buying her music, which are not us.

  

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murph71
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19. "RE: What is Iggy supposed to do or say at this point?"
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Iggy can keep doing what she is doing music wise...No harm, no foul there...

But she should turn down the entitlement thing she seems to always bring to the party...I truly believe that when Iggy makes clueless statements like "U are being racist!" to a very complicated and emotional topic for many folks (like A. Banks...) she is doing so mostly because she is not from this country...

Iggy just needs to realize that her success doesn't come in a vacuum....I think Tip's Tweets go a long way to tugging on Iggy's slip very respectfully I might add...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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208. "She's from country NSW, Australia."
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It could be forgivable that she is somewhat culturally-unaware, however she needs to be a lot humbler and willing to learn - particularly as she's making Black music.

That she instead chooses to be obnoxious and to not take heed of what people are saying isn't very flattering. She needs to shut her mouth and open her ears.

  

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bonitaapplebaum71481
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20. "a small step would be the same move we requested of denny in that"
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Sun Dec-21-14 12:03 PM by bonitaapplebaum71481

  

          

Mongo post a couple weeks back and perhaps shut the fuck about shit she doesn't know since she apparently can't empathize with a very real and present struggle...

that's just an initial suggestion of course... *shrug*


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35. "I don't disagree "
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>Mongo post a couple weeks back and perhaps shut the fuck
>about shit she doesn't know since she apparently can't
>empathize with a very real and present struggle...
>
>that's just an initial suggestion of course... *shrug*
>

Some of the things she's posted does suggest an extreme disconnect but If I recall correctly when she chose to "stfu" and remain silent when all racial tension headed in Ferguson, Azealia Banks and company attacked her for not saying anything. She's damned if she does damned if she dosent. One on accord people are like " bitch don't appropriate black culture and then not be about the issues!" When she does its " bitch stfu and stay silent cause you can't relate!" And when and if she does about face and go the pop singer route im willing to bet it's gonna be " bitch it was hip hop/rap and the appropriation of black culture that made you hot, and don't you forget that while you try and move out of a genre that we didn't want you in anyway!"

That girl can't go right, left up or down. Anywho I ain't got all the answers Sway.

  

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4. "RE: what prompted all this?"
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A series of sneaky @'s

Azaelia gets mad love for interview....

A random fan asks her how she feels about other white rappers @'s action bronson, asher etc..

Action chimes in.. new line of beef starts with Azaelia

ANOTHER random fan @'s Q-tip and solange in the madness with Action

Action says some shit about "this is who you people pick as your civil rights leader"

Q-tip checks him..

decides he will school the youth ...

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6. "RE: what prompted all this?"
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>Action says some shit about "this is who you people pick as
>your civil rights leader"
>
Whoa! Action went there with it? He must have deleted that tweet

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12. "Action never said, "you people"..."
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No need to paraphrase... the tweets have been posted on multiple sites...

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15. "So what did he actually say?"
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16. "Lol i though u read it"
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18. "what are you talking about?"
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21. "Ur in such a frenzy u don't even know who ur replying to "
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prototype

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44. "LOL"
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.

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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47. "seriously...lol."
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59. "Lmao. Not surprised either"
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100. "WHOOOMP THERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Get Out the Room
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/get-out-the-room/id525657893

Some of y'all need this in your life: http://www.psychology.com

  

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22. "RE: So what did he actually say?"
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@AZEALIABANKS BOOOOOπŸ‘ŽπŸ‘ŽπŸ‘Ž *PEOPLE THIS IS UR CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST*??? COME ON.
β€” #BRON2ON (@ActionBronson) December 19, 2014

He deleted it though.

here's a link to the rundown of tweets https://www.thefader.com/2014/12/20/azealia-banks-solange-knowles-q-tip-vs-action-bronson

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23. "pssssh figures he would"
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43. "Lmao whet?"
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So basically a fan tweets her inquiring about talented white rappers. Action Bronson jumps the gun telling banks not to mention his name in slanderous manner, which never happened in the first place. Then Banks then proceeds to let out a slew of fat jokes lol? Lmao.

  

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25. "RE: Action never said, "you people"..."
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you are right.. but im too lazy to read and THAT's what Q-tip thought he said anyway.. lol

he said "BOOOOOπŸ‘ŽPEOPLE THIS IS UR CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST*??? COME ON.”

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87. "I came in here to say this"
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>No need to paraphrase... the tweets have been posted on
>multiple sites...

Action did not say " you people". I lost respect for q tip for putting those words in Bronson mouth

  

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119. "who's the civil rights activist for white people?"
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EXACTLY...so even if he didn't EXACTLY say 'you people', the shit was tantamount.

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122. "basically"
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Bronson deleted that shit because he knew he was in the wrong with that particular tweet

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192. "more likely he deleted it cuz he knew people would willfully misinterpre..."
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When addressing any multiples of individuals, its a common ass figure of speech that automatically flows out, everyone with sense realizes this, but since SOME folks have also used it in a racial manner, it gets autofuck buzzword status for anyone wanting to pin the tail on donkey.

  

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292. "RE: more likely he deleted it cuz he knew people would willfully misinte..."
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Whatever dude. When civil rights is mentioned, first thing that comes to mind is...The civil rights movement of the 60s. Miss me with that shit.

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172. "Not even close to accurate..."
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>EXACTLY...so even if he didn't EXACTLY say 'you people', the
>shit was tantamount.


If hella PEOPLE (not just BLACK people) in NY (or where ever) are backing what Banks is saying, then there is nothing wrong with his response... Tip was on some bullshit acting like he can't read... and maybe he can't because he swore that Acton said "you people"...

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175. "okay"
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but nobody needs CIVIL RIGHTS but minorities and gays so he basically IS saying you people. But I'm not here to knock your Koolaid out your hand.

LOL

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176. "okay, player..."
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>but nobody needs CIVIL RIGHTS but minorities and gays so he
>basically IS saying you people. But I'm not here to knock your
>Koolaid out your hand.
>
>LOL
>
>

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272. "shit was out of line, period."
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I'm not sure what's so hard for folks to understand about that.

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2. "Bruh wasting his time. Iggy don't give a damn about no hip hop history"
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5. "RE: I really wonder if this shit is starting to hurt her career wise?"
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Iggy, that is...

i mean no one can take away the hits she had this year, but i wonder if she'll end up on some one hit wonder status faster than we thought

  

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7. "RE: I really wonder if this shit is starting to hurt her career wise?"
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As long as she got that white dollar, she'll be around longer than I'd like her to be.

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8. "If folks stop wanting to collab and co-sign her, yeah."
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69. "Everyone wants to make money..."
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>
>**********
>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/

  

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9. "Tough call"
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>Iggy, that is...
>
>i mean no one can take away the hits she had this year, but i
>wonder if she'll end up on some one hit wonder status faster
>than we thought

The music is pretty much trash but she's white and participating in " black culture caracatire " that white youth love so much. Her being white makes it 10x more appealing to them so they will buy.

  

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10. "Has she ever had a decent live performance?"
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>>Iggy, that is...
>>
>>i mean no one can take away the hits she had this year, but
>i
>>wonder if she'll end up on some one hit wonder status faster
>>than we thought
>
>The music is pretty much trash but she's white and
>participating in " black culture caracatire " that white youth
>love so much. Her being white makes it 10x more appealing to
>them so they will buy.

I think that, by itself, should do her in.

  

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14. "None of these pop stars have decent performances "
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>>>Iggy, that is...
>>>
>>>i mean no one can take away the hits she had this year, but
>>i
>>>wonder if she'll end up on some one hit wonder status
>faster
>>>than we thought
>>
>>The music is pretty much trash but she's white and
>>participating in " black culture caracatire " that white
>youth
>>love so much. Her being white makes it 10x more appealing to
>>them so they will buy.
>
>I think that, by itself, should do her in.
>

Except like Beyonce, away with them all.

  

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24. "Yup. This is the "rap music" white girls have been waiting for "
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11. "eh, she can just about face and do a Pink."
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17. "^^^^"
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me and my homegirl got a running bet that she's gonna switch genres come this time next year...

bet you they got some demo somewhere of her singing about the Aussie wilderness.



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94. "Iggy f Colin Haye: Men@Twurk"
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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28. "RE: eh, she can just about face and do a Pink."
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but..

She can't sing... lol She is ONLY a rapper... there is no about face for her to take.. lol

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30. "RE: eh, she can just about face and do a Pink."
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>but..
>
>She can't sing... lol She is ONLY a rapper... there is no
>about face for her to take.. lol


Yep....the only about face she can pull off is go full blown Pitbull....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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45. "RE: eh, she can just about face and do a Pink."
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That's already what she tried..

Before Fancy worked she had multiple edm-lite rap records that didn't connect..

She is gonna have a very interesting time moving forward anyway..

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40. "RE: she can't sing...cuz, that's stopped other 'pop' stars from "
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making it big.

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46. "RE: she can't sing...cuz, that's stopped other 'pop' stars from "
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Again I don't know where some folks get idea that Autotune or melodyne turns someone who cant even sing in the shower into a star..

It doesnt work like that... even these singers with "weaker" voices or folks who cant SANG can sing enough.. sure there are people who just talk through autotune.. but they arent pop stars either..

She can't sing enough..

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48. "I dunno"
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If Nicki can have pop records hits singing, I'm sure iggy can.

  

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126. "RE: I dunno"
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Are we gonna forget that Nicki is a product of one of the best performing arts high schools in the country? So much so they made a damn TV Show about it..

FAME..

Nicki can sing she sings live she may not write those records but she can deliver the top line.

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129. "wait"
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>Are we gonna forget that Nicki is a product of one of the
>best performing arts high schools in the country? So much so
>they made a damn TV Show about it..
>
>FAME..
>
>Nicki can sing she sings live she may not write those records
>but she can deliver the top line.

i thought she wrote?
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145. "RE: wait"
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She writes all her raps.. that I am for sure.. But pop hooks and pop songs.. nah they are mostly Ester Dean..

Which is weird because her first real record that blew up was Your Love and I'm pretty sure that was just her and Pop Wansel. But ever since super bass Ester has been her go-to for BIG pop records

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188. "Ahhhh"
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>She writes all her raps.. that I am for sure.. But pop hooks
>and pop songs.. nah they are mostly Ester Dean..
>
>Which is weird because her first real record that blew up was
>Your Love and I'm pretty sure that was just her and Pop
>Wansel. But ever since super bass Ester has been her go-to
>for BIG pop records


Thank you


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211. " Bruh Nicki Minaj cannot sing."
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>Are we gonna forget that Nicki is a product of one of the
>best performing arts high schools in the country? So much so
>they made a damn TV Show about it..
>
>FAME..
>
>Nicki can sing she sings live she may not write those records
>but she can deliver the top line.

Hold a tune long enough for some studio magic to happen... Sure, but so can Future, Cassie and hell even Kim Kardashian can do that but I would hardly call that singing talent.

This is Nicki Minaj " singing" skip to 2:36 ---> http://youtu.be/U9QsB31Wgro

And similarly almost all of her "singing" performances are of low quality. She auditioned for that performing arts school with a singing audition was and rejected, later on auditioned for the acting and was accepted, and rightfully so.

Baby girl can rap and has charisma for days and I'm not taking that away from her at all. But suggesting that she has singing talent is reaching, but I dunno maybe you do think that shit sounds good.

But I say all that, not to drag Nicki M but to suggest that Iggy can have success singing "pop" records because a bunch of other non "singing" artists can and have. It's not uncommon.

  

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243. "RE: Bruh Nicki Minaj cannot sing."
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they said pull a Pink.. which she cannot do...

Yes that is a BAD performance.. and she is outta breath as shit.. so there could be contributing factors..

Rihanna pulled back on that over dancing as well.. and when she does she definitely lands her vocals

But ultimately what I am saying is.. if someone is almost tone deaf.. like note is supposed to be in C and they are singin F Sharp.. autotune cannot fix that... But for someone like Nicki who probably slips from C to C Sharp or sits in between the two it won't sound AMAZING live but she can get away with it on record...

and Future nor Thug can be on this convo because they do not have these level of hits.. No Billboard Hot 100 number ones not even top 10's

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256. "No. "
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>they said pull a Pink.. which she cannot do...
This she can't, but have successful pop records without being able to sing, definitely.


>Yes that is a BAD performance.. and she is outta breath as
>shit.. so there could be contributing factors..

No she can't sing period, I follow her career pretty closely because I am fan, and I have yet to see a performance were shes singing well. With studio magic she sounds decent at best but I would hardly call that singing talent. But if you can show me one performance where she's displaying significant vocal talent, I will shut the entire fuck up. Lol

>Rihanna pulled back on that over dancing as well.. and when
>she does she definitely lands her vocals

Nicki dosent really land her singing vocals regardless of whether she's dancing or not. Or atleast I have yet to hear it.

>But ultimately what I am saying is.. if someone is almost tone
>deaf.. like note is supposed to be in C and they are singin F
>Sharp.. autotune cannot fix that... But for someone like Nicki
>who probably slips from C to C Sharp or sits in between the
>two it won't sound AMAZING live but she can get away with it
>on record...
>
>and Future nor Thug can be on this convo because they do not
>have these level of hits.. No Billboard Hot 100 number ones
>not even top 10's
I guess but you can still have big successful pop records without being able to sing. ( ie Nicki Minaj)

  

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263. "RE: No. "
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Nicki Minaj's pop smashes may contain her singing top line but they arent "singing pop records". They are pop/rap records with huge choruses and bridges. She has rap verses on all of them (yes the melodic 2nd verse on Starships is a rap verse )

It's literally what Iggy is already doing which is why I started this whole thing off by saying there is no about face for her..

That is the formula..

Edit: The only difference is that every time Nicki has a singing hook it doesn't say featuring Ester Dean.

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56. "jennifer lopez."
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76. "Kate Perry cant sing.."
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She got hits but she cant sing live... its always wful

  

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88. "Nope. Firework is not an easy song to sing..."
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>She got hits but she cant sing live... its always wful

  

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136. "I was finna say Katy can sing. Not SANG but she can sing."
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98. "Well, that never stopped J.Lo or Drake"
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>She can't sing

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128. "RE: Well, that never stopped J.Lo or Drake"
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Go peep a J Lo show now... I'd argue she is performing the best that she ever has now.. singing and dancing...

This arguement will get lost anyway in the definition.. I never said these people could SANG.. but they can sing enough..

Drake has literally changed the entire genre of R&b with his singing..

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152. "RE: Well, that never stopped J.Lo or Drake"
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>Go peep a J Lo show now... I'd argue she is performing the
>best that she ever has now.. singing and dancing...


So you're saying she's improved. Point stands that her lack of singing ability didn't
stop her from doing it.


>This arguement will get lost anyway in the definition.. I
>never said these people could SANG.. but they can sing
>enough..


It really isn't bout the definition. You're saying they can carry a tune. If Iggy can do that,
she can be a "singer" in this era. It really doesn't take much at all.

>Drake has literally changed the entire genre of R&b with his
>singing..


You mean his songwriting.


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244. "RE: Well, that never stopped J.Lo or Drake"
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Agree.. I dont think she can carry a tune...


as for Drake.. nah.. his singing has changed R&B... his cadence his 100% flattening of notes in melodyne so there is no vibrato.. all that

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33. "RE: I really wonder if this shit is starting to hurt her career wise?"
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Her career is not solidified yet..

She has sold A LOT of singles.. but her album isn't gold and the re-release sold 11k first week.

If this stadium tour doesn't do well next year people will be less willing to invest for sure..

but she is dating a Laker and for other obvious reasons she'll stay in the gossip fodder probably longer than she needs to..

So hopefully Skeme can write another shit in that time.. we see "Beg for It didnt" work

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27. "Yup, and with TI propping her up and gasing her she thinks the Blks"
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Decrying her are just haters

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29. "TI disappointed me by co-signing her"
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I understand it's just about the money but damn, draw the line somewhere fam.

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38. "RE: TI disappointed me by co-signing her"
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Man.. what happened to Chipmunk..

he was "signed" to grand hustle at the same time and already had smashes in the UK

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49. "RE: TI disappointed me by co-signing her"
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>Man.. what happened to Chipmunk..
>
>he was "signed" to grand hustle at the same time and already
>had smashes in the UK
>
>
Unfortunately for him, that british accent won't ever pop in the states

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95. "IDK about this. How do you explain Dana Dane's success and Slick Rick's"
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legendary status in the pantheon of Hip Hop music?

>Unfortunately for him, that british accent won't ever pop in
>the states

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104. "RE: IDK about this. How do you explain Dana Dane's success and Slick Ric..."
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Wasn't as thick as Chip's. I'm talking on some Dizzee Rascal shit. That ain't popping in the states.

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107. "they was 30 years ago "
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talk about ppl stuck in the 90s

>legendary status in the pantheon of Hip Hop music?
>
>>Unfortunately for him, that british accent won't ever pop in
>>the states
>

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187. "Looks like you may need a Twitter Hip Hop history lesson, yourself."
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>talk about ppl stuck in the 90s
>

Both Dana Dane and Slick Rick had their Hey Days in the '80's. But what of it? 30 years from now, La di Da di, A Children's Story, The Show, and Nightmares will STILL be gettin' play. IDK how much anyone can say that about this mess from today.

>>legendary status in the pantheon of Hip Hop music?
>>
>>>Unfortunately for him, that british accent won't ever pop
>in
>>>the states
>>
>

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269. "they get play today because they are carried classics."
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if they came out today
they wouldnt get passed OKP level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GluRD7FnJpA

thats the first rap song i ever memorized
that whole album was five mics level



>>talk about ppl stuck in the 90s
>>
>
>Both Dana Dane and Slick Rick had their Hey Days in the '80's.
>But what of it? 30 years from now, La di Da di, A Children's
>Story, The Show, and Nightmares will STILL be gettin' play.
>IDK how much anyone can say that about this mess from today.
>
>>>legendary status in the pantheon of Hip Hop music?
>>>
>>>>Unfortunately for him, that british accent won't ever pop
>>in
>>>>the states
>>>
>>
>

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283. "For whatever reason they get play today, how many of the tracks that"
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come out today, will get play 30 years from now in any revered
fashion or manner?

And I categorically disagree with your assessment, at least in
part, because The Show rocks just as hard today as it did back
in '85.

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287. "That's in your stuck in the 90s mindset."
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>come out today, will get play 30 years from now in any
>revered fashion or manner?

do "back that ass up" or "fuck them other
niggas cause i'm down for my niggas" still get the party
crunk today? that shit 15 years old right now. I can easily
see them shits still getting as much burn in 2029 as they do
today.

you realise Gin n Juice is TWENTY YEARS OLD right now and when
it came out The Show and La Di Da Di were already "old
school classics"???



>
>And I categorically disagree with your assessment, at
least in
>part, because The Show rocks just as hard today as it did
back
>in '85.


The Show rocks hard a Paid In Full here in Houston and any
other crowd where the median age is 37
play that shit at a step show and watch the crowd's reaction
but put on "BITCH YOU GUESSIN" or "I GOT BAKIN
SODA, I GOT BAKIN SODA" and see which track gets ALLLLL
the folk out they seats

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289. "AGAIN, these are EIGHTIES tracks, NOT 90's."
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Edit: Changed 90's to 80's in subject bar.

>>come out today, will get play 30 years from now in any
>>revered fashion or manner?
>
>do "back that ass up" or "fuck them other
niggas cause i'm
>down for my niggas" still get the party crunk today?
that shit
>15 years old right now. I can easily see them shits still
>getting as much burn in 2029 as they do today.
>

IDK cause I was never into that shit too much. I can't say
that I never heard it, but that was around the time when I
began feeling so-called Hip Hop music less and less.

>you realise Gin n Juice is TWENTY YEARS OLD right now and
when
>it came out The Show and La Di Da Di were already
"old school
>classics"???
>

Yep, and as classics they had and have been sampled to death.
Anyone trying to sample any of the shit from the past 10 - 15
years?

>
>
>>
>>And I categorically disagree with your assessment, at
least
>in
>>part, because The Show rocks just as hard today as it
did
>back
>>in '85.
>
>
>The Show rocks hard a Paid In Full here in Houston and any
>other crowd where the median age is 37
>play that shit at a step show and watch the crowd's
reaction
>but put on "BITCH YOU GUESSIN" or "I GOT
BAKIN SODA, I GOT
>BAKIN SODA" and see which track gets ALLLLL the folk
out they
>seats
>

The Show and Paid in Full rocks hard still, because they are
undeniable classics. Them Bullshit trax you mentioned above
are just flavors of the moment, like A-Bay-bay and that
Souljah Boy, Tell 'em garbage.  

When The Show and Paid in Full dropped, everybody who was
around at that time KNEW that this thing called Hip Hop music
had turned a significant corner.  It's been a
LLOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG time, since there's been a track or an
album that's had that kind of impact.

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297. "Wait, are you Black???"
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>>do "back that ass up" or "fuck them
other niggas cause i'm
>>down for my niggas" still get the party crunk
today? 
>
>IDK cause I was never into that shit too much. I can't say
>that I never heard it, but that was around the time when I
>began feeling so-called Hip Hop music less and less.


you never heard Juvenile's "back that ass up"? you a
fine muthafucka girl now back that ass up.
the shit was HUUUUUGE when it dropped

you never heard that No Limit track "fuck them other
niggas cause im down for my niggas"???
unless you never listened to a radio, been to a club/bar or a
family reunion in the last 15 years i'm calling bullshit on
this one.

just admit that Dana Dane and Slick Rick squeezed through the
cracks when hip hop was in its adolescent stages.
now that hip hop is in its "grown and sexy" years,
them british niggas wont get no traction.

just because a Vanessa Williams type got much love in 1985
don't mean her same type will get love in 2015. maybe to your
old self, but these young boys want CAKES!!!




















>


>>you realise Gin n Juice is TWENTY YEARS OLD right now
and
>when
>>it came out The Show and La Di Da Di were already
"old
>school
>>classics"???
>>
>
>Yep, and as classics they had and have been sampled to
death.
>Anyone trying to sample any of the shit from the past 10 -
15
>years?
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>And I categorically disagree with your assessment,
at least
>>in
>>>part, because The Show rocks just as hard today as
it did
>>back
>>>in '85.
>>
>>
>>The Show rocks hard a Paid In Full here in Houston and
any
>>other crowd where the median age is 37
>>play that shit at a step show and watch the crowd's
reaction
>>but put on "BITCH YOU GUESSIN" or "I
GOT BAKIN SODA, I GOT
>>BAKIN SODA" and see which track gets ALLLLL the
folk out
>they
>>seats
>>
>
>The Show and Paid in Full rocks hard still, because they
are
>undeniable classics. Them Bullshit trax you mentioned
above
>are just flavors of the moment, like A-Bay-bay and that
>Souljah Boy, Tell 'em garbage.  
>
>When The Show and Paid in Full dropped, everybody who was
>around at that time KNEW that this thing called Hip Hop
music
>had turned a significant corner.  It's been a
>LLOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG time, since there's been a track or an
>album that's had that kind of impact.
>

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300. "Yes I am. The better question is are you Black?"
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>
>you never heard Juvenile's "back that ass up"?
you a fine
>muthafucka girl now back that ass up.
>the shit was HUUUUUGE when it dropped
>
>you never heard that No Limit track "fuck them other
niggas
>cause im down for my niggas"???
>unless you never listened to a radio, been to a club/bar
or a
>family reunion in the last 15 years i'm calling bullshit
on
>this one.
>

I heard all that shit that you mentioned above and it was
alright, but I was beginning to feel so-called Hip Hop music
less and less around that time.  Coming out of the Golden Age,
that shit was less authentic and I began to grow wary of the
monotonous theme and sound that was been spouted by damn near
every so-called Hip Hop artist and was mentally checkin' out
of it.




>just admit that Dana Dane and Slick Rick squeezed through
the
>cracks when hip hop was in its adolescent stages.
>now that hip hop is in its "grown and sexy"
years, them
>british niggas wont get no traction.
>

Wait a minute? Are you sayin' that Slick Rick squeezed
through?  I MAY give you Dana, but Slick Rick? Are you
serious? Next thing you know, you'll be saying that Melle Mel
just happened to "squeeze through" with "The
Message" or that PE, with their whole career,
"squeezed through" or that BDP/KRS just happened to
"squeeze through with their/his contribution(s) or that
Rakim just happened to "squeeze through" with his
lyrical dexterity and display.  How so? Because this shit
that's dropping today is just so unbelievably hot? You can't
be serious.  LMFAO at even the thought of that!!!!


>just because a Vanessa Williams type got much love in 1985
>don't mean her same type will get love in 2015. maybe to
your
>old self, but these young boys want CAKES!!!
>

IDK what this has to do with anything, but Venessa "the
undressa" Williams is a beauty in any generation. She may
not hold the same level of sex appeal because she doesn't have
the thickness that's required for that nowadays to have that
top level sex appeal, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't get
any attention.  Hell, look at Rhianna and all of the attention
that she gets. You think a young Venessa would get no looks?
Hell, she still catches some looks now.

And the thickness model of today for women is not new.  It was
in effect back in the day, it just wasn't popular (just like
Hip Hop). Take a look at all of the love that Bernadette
Stanis, Chaka Khan and Judy Pace among several others, got
back in the day.

And what I stated below, STILL stands.


>>When The Show and Paid in Full dropped, everybody who
was
>>around at that time KNEW that this thing called Hip
Hop
>music
>>had turned a significant corner.  It's been a
>>LLOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG time, since there's been a track
or an
>>album that's had that kind of impact.
>>
>

<<<<"Nothings more attractive than a heavy praying woman" © Andre 3000

  

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57. "^^^^^^^^^^"
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peace

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58. "Thank you!"
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Shit is too true. Fool should know Aussies don't give a fuck.

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26. "Wreckx-N-Effect just gave Tip a lesson too lol"
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31. "huh?"
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32. "sarcasm."
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but the whole twitter convo was mad childish and Tip and Solange tried to step in like some parents it was annoying. They shouldve just let it die down but everyone kept making it simmer and nothing positive came from the outcome. Waste of time. It wouldve been more interesting if Wreckx-N-Effect chimed in cause they had much to do about it as Tip and Solange did. Hence the joke lol


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34. "RE: sarcasm."
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I dont understand how ALL these people got caught up in @'s from fans though... lol

Like man ya'll were waaaayyyyyy over there..

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37. "lol i know right"
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36. "RE: sarcasm."
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I thought something happened recently when you said just gave him a lesson but on the Iggy topic, they got tagged on Bronson's comment. That's the only reason they responded. Tip did nothing wrong IMO. Educate the young lady. The dumb niggas around her aren't doing it obviously.

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39. "Sorry but its hard to take his "education" serious"
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when he just put Weezy in the Zulu Nation as if his music/content is far off from Iggy's lol He's using Weezy like T.I. is using Iggy.


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41. "RE: Sorry but its hard to take his "education" serious"
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I didn't take it as him dissing Iggy's music. Just trying to get her to understand white privilege and why Azealia said some of the things she did in that hot 97 interview.

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42. "if that was his point then thats fair i guess. "
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Again it wouldve been better if he just hit up Tip and her offline. The Twitter way just isnt the move even if you trying to be positive especially the way Bronson and Banks were trolling each other going nowhere...Banks will never win against Bronson on trolling. Its pretty much impossible especially with his fanbase chiming in




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61. "meh"
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lol

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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62. "Lmao. U dont see a difference between Weezy and iggy ?!"
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I cant tell if this is serious

This what happens when your city has been completely irrelevant to hip hop for decades i guess ..

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"Oh. God."
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Only on OKP when u compare anything in their head it translate to "identitally the same" lol Le. Sigh.

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83. "more deserving of a Zulu Nation membership: Iggy or Weezy?"
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can't believe this needs to be spelled out


actually, yeah I can believe it. I'm talking to an outlier

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68. "Oh. God."
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85. "You don't think that's condescending?"
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It's not like Q-Tip is doing this with all new rappers.....just Iggy.

  

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91. "RE: You don't think that's condescending?"
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>It's not like Q-Tip is doing this with all new
>rappers.....just Iggy.

All new rappers aren't succeeding on her level due to white privledge either.

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106. "Point taken on white privilege but...."
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>>It's not like Q-Tip is doing this with all new
>>rappers.....just Iggy.
>
>All new rappers aren't succeeding on her level due to white
>privledge either.

it just seems like there's an equal amount of rappers of all walks that come off like Iggy...and they are successful.
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112. "RE: Point taken on white privilege but...."
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>it just seems like there's an equal amount of rappers of all
>walks that come off like Iggy...and they are successful.
>

Who outside of Drake and Macklemore?

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50. "Why is this only addressed to Iggy? "
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There are a myriad of younger artists who need this history lesson,
but lately it's the hot thing to do to 'teach Iggy' about the history
of hip-hop and its cultural origins.

At this point everyone seems to be stunting for likes, retweets,
and reposts of long-winded think-pieces about cultural appropriation -
but this seems to me more about inflaming the social media spheres
than a real genuine teaching moment.

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51. "Because she is white so its logical to people lol"
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but apparently Chief Keef didnt need a lesson lol


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60. "She's a foreigner doing her best southern accent"
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You really dont get why she of all ppl needed this lesson

I guess this what happens when you listen to hip hop completely out of the context it was created

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67. "lol thanks for the lesson "
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I like you assume u know me or what I listen to lol

But we'll keep pretending she's "on top" as if that is the reason what happened to Drake's lesson he a foreigner with a souther accent lol Cool story bro.



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84. "totally see why you would bring up Drake up first in this conversation"
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He set the precedent for this minstrel shit


the idea that a fucking foreigner could rap with an adopted accent was unheard of before.



congrats on the success of your city and shit. One wonders why he didn't come out spitting with an emphasis on his Canadian accent. Baffling tbh

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174. "RE: She's a foreigner doing her best southern accent"
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kinda like Drake...

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78. "see also: WHAT ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME?!"
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smh

  

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99. "LMFAO"
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189. "Welp"
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52. "Well because she's at the top as far as popularity goes"
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and she's not doing the Macklemore "I know I'm getting the accolades because I'm white and it's not fair to the Black artists who are just as good if not better than me" thing.

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54. "She's making trash music that appeals to the masses just like..."
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90% of the other artists in hip hop are doing. She just happens to be white.

  

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55. "She's making trash music that appeals to the masses just like..."
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90% of the other artists in hip hop are doing. She just happens to be white.

  

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63. "why not?"
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her responses to some of the criticisms is what is really making this a big deal

macklemore handled it way better...

which is why people largely dropped it...eventually

but iggy actually responding is what is continuing to drive this story...

everyone is contributing to the social media mayhem and i largely think this history less is a bit self-important and useless but i'm not mad at it...

there's no way to reasonably combat the bullshit stance that she and others like her take so confidently and defensively...

just be grateful...praise that alabaster skin...take them grammys...and shrug it all the way to the bank

but there are going to be frustrated and upset people who are simply want to be acknowledged...how they do that is unimportant honestly...far less important than the actual fucking humility involved in recognizing just how fucked up and unfair shit is

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65. "'CISM!!!!!"
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>There are a myriad of younger artists who need this history
>lesson,
>but lately it's the hot thing to do to 'teach Iggy' about the
>history
>of hip-hop and its cultural origins.
>
>At this point everyone seems to be stunting for likes,
>retweets,
>and reposts of long-winded think-pieces about cultural
>appropriation -
>but this seems to me more about inflaming the social media
>spheres
>than a real genuine teaching moment.
>
>-->

  

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53. "who cares?"
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64. ""@IGGYAZALEA I've been on twitter a long time and this will probably"
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be my last series of tweets pretty much but"

what's up with that? tip was how i first learned of twitter, as linked through here, circa a swizz beatz album listening party.

  

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182. "I learned about Twitter from Tip, too, in '07. "
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I didn't know what it was for, I just wanted info on his upcoming album (The Renaissance). It's come a long way.

  

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239. "i never thought it would take off like it did"
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i thought it was a cool novelty that a famous person was updating people on his day

  

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66. "some people only love Hip Hop because it's "cool" to"
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I cant trust anyone who is dismissive when it comes time to stand up for blackness

  

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70. "is it still cool?"
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i would argue it's been on a fast track to uncool for a while. pretty much any music i really cared about in my life is uncool to like, but i still love it. public figures still rap, so you can hear rapping on popular songs, but i don't feel like hip-hop is seen as cool anymore by the masses. it's probably cool to middle aged and old people who are behind the times, and it's eternally cool to us music people, but i'm going to have to disagree with hip-hop being widely perceived as cool in 2014.

  

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73. ""cool" is young people shit"
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the youth move the direction of hip hop

which is why Hot Nigga ran shit this year

  

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75. "do they consider it hip-hop?"
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what i'm getting at is more than just the term itself falling out of favor but also a distance from what hip-hop was said to be "about" for most of its existence (as opposed to a particular sound). people rapped on early to mid '90s club/dance songs, but few considered it hip-hop. likewise rage against the machine and some of the later nu-metal bands had rappers instead of singers. some form of rapping is still popular and thus "cool," but i'm not sure a lot of what's popular is still hip-hop. that's why some of the dogpiling on iggy is over the top to me because she is just one of many, albeit someone who doesn't do herself many favors with what she says in her defense.

  

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71. "Azalea banks needs to stop counting iggy's money "
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And crying over her success.

A sucessful white rapper come along once decade.

I mean we've had one male and one female (Macklemore and Iggy) since eminem in the mid 90s.

Their making catchy pop songs over hip hop beats for middle anerica is irrelevant to her success.

  

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80. "RE: Azalea banks needs to stop counting iggy's money "
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>And crying over her success.
>
>A sucessful white rapper come along once decade.
>
>I mean we've had one male and one female (Macklemore and Iggy)
>since eminem in the mid 90s.
>
>Their making catchy pop songs over hip hop beats for middle
>anerica is irrelevant to her success.


If only it were that simple.....

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82. "did the west coast make any contribution to hip hop yet?"
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just curious to hear where your understanding of the subject is at

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72. "of all the rappers, this is who he chooses to give his "lesson" to"
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Is this what its come to black folks?

  

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74. "by giving it to her, hes spraying the masses...not to mention she"
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actually really did need it whether it actually sinks in or not. but millions of ppl got schooled by that message.

  

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77. "no...he was addressing everyone...he started and then said , 'wait, let"
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me start again'...and then started @ -ing her so THIS way people would actually take heed.

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79. "i wouldn't even give it the time of day if i was her."
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81. "You would've thunk T.I. ( the other Tip) "
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would've schooled her already. We'll see how effective this is in years to come. It's good to see Q-tip staying active and involved.

  

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The right Tip schooled her.

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90. "Ti is married to a black woman who just had a blue eyeball transplant "
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>would've schooled her already. We'll see how effective this
>is in years to come. It's good to see Q-tip staying active
>and involved.

Foh and lol.

  

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89. "T.I is speaking on it at this moment lol "
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http://twitter.com/Tip/status/546867306102816769

http://twitter.com/Tip/status/546868206393364480

  

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92. "Good to see him admit big bruh Tip was right"
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Glad they have enough respect for each other not to let some twitter shit come between that.

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102. "T.I trying to protect his cash cow and keep his hood card "
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At the same time. That's all that is.

Nope. The jig is up.

  

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105. "RE: T.I trying to protect his cash cow and keep his hood card "
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That's part of it but him and Tip are cool too.

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93. "why didnt they do this to eminem>?"
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97. "because he's actually talented."
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108. "not only that but hes pretty knowledgeable where hip hop is concerned"
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and when he won his first big award he made it a point to thank a long list of emcees who came before him

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127. "Not to mention he IS being himself."
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>and when he won his first big award he made it a point to
>thank a long list of emcees who came before him

He raps eloquently about himself, his life, and his truths without doing a black-cent and mimicking what he thinks a rapper is.

That shit is genuine. Iggy ain't and that's why she's getting flamed.

  

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131. "word to all of that"
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www.royallegacy.org

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109. "diffferent approach. Em was hip hop before pop. "
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i mean....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5otbXRiacyI

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96. "somebody forward this to Nicki Minaj too"
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101. "For what purpose?"
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103. "maybe if she get's a refresher on the history of hip hop"
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maybe she will stop putting out that garbage she sings and raps and calling it hip hop. She's caricature of it as well.
making it worse, she supposedly has all these emcee skills but she still chose the Katy Perry pop style and cashed out.

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120. "Should someone forward it to Curtis Blow too?"
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125. "It's Kurtis... "
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153. "True."
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110. "Everything! "
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111. "Q-Tip wasted an hour of his life"
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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

  

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113. "As wack as Iggy Az is as a rapper and a person, I'm starting to feel bad..."
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ATCQ my fave group ever too, took my love of hiphop to another level, but is she the only one who's pimped the game before? This is getting ridiculous, and guess what Q-Tip... all you just did was HELP HER CAREER MORE YOU FUCKING IDIOT



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114. "you really think.."
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Q-Tip's intent was to hurt her career tho??

I don't think he was even remotely mad at her. And even if he was mad at her status or appropriation, I don't think the whole intent of him doing this was to stifle her career.

  

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117. "that's fair, but why give her the attention at all"
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@rob_starrk

  

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118. "oh i agree..."
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123. "he's trying to enlighten her"
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She got grammy noms fam. A few tweets from Q-Tip, who a lot of young people don't even know, isn't gaining her any more exposure.

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142. "it's validating her existence to many hiphop heads"
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@rob_starrk

  

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149. "RE: it's validating her existence to many hiphop heads"
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who still won't support her when/if they hear her material.

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231. " in 2014 (I dont think) Q-TIP from a defunct group is"
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who hip-hop heads look to for validation.

IG: amadu_me

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115. "I'm still not sure people understand how the internet works"
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he's only validating her

and with so many more important issues to focus on too

SMH!

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116. "he wasn't trying to invalidate her tho"
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i'm pretty sure he's on the side of feeling like she has the right to exist within the hip hop realm
his approach is a perfect example of NOT trying to tear someone down just bc of their race.
he approached it very diplomatically and i don't see anything wrong with that.

i mean i agree on some who cares about the bitch anyway
i mostly ignore her existence
but q-tip as an elder in this game and a pioneer of hip hop felt it necessary to educate rather than just diss her
and there's no harm in that IMO
and as been stated before it wasn't a private message so
anyone reading who might be in the same boat as iggy also got a few lessons.

edited to add: i don't fk with her and think she's a culture vulture but that doesn't mean qtip was wrong to address her this way. because now she nor her supporters can say she wasn't given the lowdown

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124. "explain how he's validating her?"
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275. "can you see it yet?"
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another platinum post on OkayPlayer for a hip-hop icon making comments about Igloo Australia

there's better ways for him to utilize his space

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130. "People are still upset about Grammys? For any reason ever?"
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The Grammys are not to be taken seriously. It's a hop skip and a jump from the People's Choice Awards.

Banks fucked up by focusing on that. Grammy doesn't give a shit whether it's Pop or Rap-- she's talking fast over a beat, that's rap to them, lol. Q-Tip should've tweeted his history lesson to the Grammy voting committee.

Regarding Iggy, she should probably know at this point that any response ever is a loss. She is dropping insanely catchy hits in a genre that is predominantly black, so anyone irritated by her will shit on her as often as possible until her star fades. She needs to focus on this tour and her next album. She responded to a far less popular musician, and now she's got her beef tied in with a rap legend. Again, she will never win this cultural appropriation debate. Ever. Simply don't respond. Or, if you do, say "I love hip hop and always have." The end. Do not engage further.

I saw her perform at Made in America Fest too. She puts on a *really* good show. I'm not even a fan, but I was very entertained.

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132. "i agree with all of this."
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people will argue about the fact that grammy's bring more looks and revenue to artists
which is true but if you don't realize by now that the grammy's are rigged then i don't even
know what to tell you.

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134. "The Grammys are taken seriously though"
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They garner lucrative bonuses for artists, and the Grammys have been the most prominent celebration of musical achievement for years. Your comment is akin to dismissing the Oscars as insignificant and not a true marker of cinematic and acting quality. These institutions are part of the problem, and you are essentially telling people to stop worrying about them because they will never recognize the contributions of the real artists in this genre, who just happen to be black and have been repeatedly snubbed by our cultural institutions. Sort of a tone deaf comment, especially when you try to rationalize this oversight with a comment about her stage show.

  

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163. "thank you."
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179. "HALLELUJAH!!!!!"
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>They garner lucrative bonuses for artists, and the Grammys
>have been the most prominent celebration of musical
>achievement for years. Your comment is akin to dismissing the
>Oscars as insignificant and not a true marker of cinematic and
>acting quality. These institutions are part of the problem,
>and you are essentially telling people to stop worrying about
>them because they will never recognize the contributions of
>the real artists in this genre, who just happen to be black
>and have been repeatedly snubbed by our cultural institutions.
>Sort of a tone deaf comment, especially when you try to
>rationalize this oversight with a comment about her stage
>show.



Lawd hammercy, lemme just repeat this part:

>you are essentially telling people to stop worrying about
>them because they will never recognize the contributions of
>the real artists in this genre, who just happen to be black
>and have been repeatedly snubbed by our cultural institutions.


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135. "yup....the grammys isn't a"
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'voted by the numbers of the people' institution.

at all.

we are talking voting committees with agendas.

  

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143. "yes..."
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@rob_starrk

  

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148. "RE: People are still upset about Grammys? For any reason ever?"
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Grammy's are still serious enough son.. let's not act like most musicians wouldn't love a Grammy..

Again and people have spoken on this a ton of times and I have spoken to multiple Grammy committee's about this.

Join your local chapter if you qualify. Simple. Join and vote. You can't be mad at "the old white people" voting when you haven't paid your Grammy dues. There are chapters with a bunch of old 80's R&B black people running it to and they ALSO don't know what the newest most legit shit should be to vote for..

Shit MC Lyte was the head of the LA Chapter from 2011-13. This is not some club you can't get in...

So participate.

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133. "Why her?"
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Bc she has made comments recently that give the impression that she doesn't know much about HH's history and why a rapper in her position is at times expected to take sides on certain political issues.

I think if Iggy wants to avoid politics she can but she'd do well to understand the context. She can choose not to speak on __ bc she feels it's not her place but she should be careful about the way in which she expresses her desire to remain silent. She shouldn't be unnecessarily flippant or dismissive. She can turn off the braggadocia for a hot minute and be real.

fuck you.

  

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137. "It probably has a lot to do with her extra layer of appropriation"
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Not only is a white person immediately suspect in a genre created by black artists, but she also assumed a Southern American accent, and she is from Australia. Plus, she previously tried unsuccessfully to be a pop star, so her claim that she has always been dedicated to hip-hop is suspect.

  

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139. "sure, but"
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Banks called her out for remaining silent on the issues driving the recent protests and demonstrations calling for better policing and more equitable treatment in the criminal justice system for all defendants. Iggy's response indicated she doesn't understand why a rapper might be expected to speak on the protests.

Banks probably called homegirl out bc she mad/jealous that Iggy gets by on white privilege while performing relatively poorly. But I don't think that's a main reason why QTip 'educated' her. But maybe.

fuck you.

  

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141. "She's definitely indignant about it for sure, but I don't"
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think that there would be such a comprehensive attack on her without those other conditions. I mean, not many white rap artists have been political, and I can't remember many catching the flak that Iggy is. Calling her out on her looks and sh*t

  

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146. "ok"
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fuck you.

  

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154. "No doubt"
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138. "there's not even a"
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"thanks for your kind introspect, q-tip" and K.I.M.

But you can expect plenty of clapback if/when each time she is fired upon.

To me that speaks massive volumes.

  

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140. "u guys really dont think this is the action of a condescending dick? "
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This is the douchiest #actually of all time

  

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144. "you would think that."
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155. "why is that?"
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158. "fits in with a lotta other view points you have expressed before"
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162. "interesting"
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147. "i really don't."
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fuck you.

  

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165. "i think its the medium. "
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If he really wanted to build something with her, that could have been done face to face (or even over the phone) in a setting conducive to positive interaction

Firing off an "Idiots Guide to HipHop" in a public one way Twitter blast seems more like an attempt to shame than build

  

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168. "her responses happened on Twitter, so he addressed them"
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on Twitter, publicly.

>If he really wanted to build something with her, that could
>have been done face to face (or even over the phone) in a
>setting conducive to positive interaction

i dunno that he hasn't also reached out to her privately for a person-to-person chat of some sort.

>Firing off an "Idiots Guide to HipHop" in a public one way
>Twitter blast seems more like an attempt to shame than build

if he really wanted to shame her he would've done so w/different language. the man is a professional wordsmith - he knows what he's doing when it comes to that kind of biz. if he wanted to shame her he could've chosen more fiery diction. he didn't - and that's b/c i don't think he wanted to shame her.

fuck you.

  

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150. "I think you're the only one that thinks that"
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151. "RE: u guys really dont think this is the action of a condescending dick?..."
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No...

Elder statesman in the past of just been defensive and dismissive.. Talked some shit called it wack and did nothing else..

He is attempting to let her know this isn't a personal attack. That when people are mad it's deeper than just "I hate that bitch"

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156. "sometimes, but not every time"
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> That when people are mad it's deeper than just "I hate that
>bitch"
>
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157. "it's on you to prove this"
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show where he came off as condescending

  

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161. "you want me to prove that i think something?"
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The whole thing just came off wankish to me

If not you, great

I was just asking if anyone else felt the same way, im not trying to convince anyone of anything

  

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164. "no. i wanted you to flesh out your stated idea"
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no worries though

  

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167. "well i just sort of did in 165"
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This type of thing isnt conducive to building, its just lecturing

And doing it on twitter makes it look like grandstanding

  

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160. "Nope! fuck Igloo"
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______________________________

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170. "i really wish you were 1/3rd as intellectually honest and"
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committed to issues of race, class, and culture

as you are when the pendulum swings through idiocy against science and medicine on these boards

and like others have said no, Tip does not come off like a condescending dick, at all, #actually.

  

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173. "for one, i dont see a point in just cosigning everything"
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The OKP consensus about race and class and their relation to power in America is pretty much congruous with my own. If i am posting something contrarian its because ive taken issue with a specific detail (like ppl telling their kids that their white friends *will* bounce on them in tough times), or i dont think the poster im replying to is looking at things from more than one perspective. That other perspective may not even be one i agree with, and if thats intellectually dishonest to you, youre probably right to some degree. I can say with 100% certainty that if i were involved in a race and class discussion on a message board full of WASPs "intellectually dishonest" would be the nicest thing i would get called.

For another, my comments in posts like this tend to relate to the principals involved in them. For me, thats Q Tip, Iggy, and Twitter. Please understand that if im not posting about this situation through a race and class lens, its intentionally so because im focusing on choices made by the principals.

I hope you understand that i dont care if im seen here as being willfully ignorant of the effects of race and class on society, because i grew up with them all around me and im comfortable with who i am as a person. I only replied to you because i consistently really enjoy your posting.

  

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185. "i can respect this reply"
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n/m

  

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190. "Its not about consigning everything"
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>The OKP consensus about race and class and their relation to
>power in America is pretty much congruous with my own. If i
>am posting something contrarian its because ive taken issue
>with a specific detail (like ppl telling their kids that their
>white friends *will* bounce on them in tough times)

That was questionable as well


or i dont
>think the poster im replying to is looking at things from more
>than one perspective. That other perspective may not even be
>one i agree with, and if thats intellectually dishonest to
>you, youre probably right to some degree.

At least you acknowledge it

I can say with 100%
>certainty that if i were involved in a race and class
>discussion on a message board full of WASPs "intellectually
>dishonest" would be the nicest thing i would get called.

Your point?
Oh your only but so brainwashed and stuck in a particular pov?
Oh goody for you?

>For another, my comments in posts like this tend to relate to
>the principals involved in them. For me, thats Q Tip, Iggy,
>and Twitter. Please understand that if im not posting about
>this situation through a race and class lens, its
>intentionally so because im focusing on choices made by the
>principals.

"...I prefer to post in a bubble?"


>I hope you understand that i dont care if im seen here as
>being willfully ignorant of the effects of race and class on
>society, because i grew up with them all around me and im
>comfortable with who i am as a person. I only replied to you
>because i consistently really enjoy your posting.

We can tell you don't care
Hence your consistently questionable replies
Bigots tend to be comfortable in their views as well
Not sure what the point of that part of your statement statement was except to ground yourself in your willful ignorance by claiming some off board knowledge
It doesn't work like that on here.


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195. "RE: Its not about consigning everything"
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>That was questionable as well

If you mean its questionable that someone wpuld say that, i agree with you. If you are referring to my response to it, im not sure what to tell you. SoWhat's reaction to it was almost exactly the same as mine, so there were other rational people with the same feelings.

>Your point?
>Oh your only but so brainwashed and stuck in a particular
>pov?
>Oh goody for you?

What? My "brainwashed" POV is a complete unknown to you. I know this because I've never bothered to explain any of it to you, and have no plans to.

>"...I prefer to post in a bubble?"

Thats one interpretation i suppose. I would say im more interested in the choices people make.

>We can tell you don't care
>Hence your consistently questionable replies

You keep using this word and i think you should just say what you mean so i can laugh it it.

>Bigots tend to be comfortable in their views as well

Getting closer!

>Not sure what the point of that part of your statement
>statement was except to ground yourself in your willful
>ignorance by claiming some off board knowledge
>It doesn't work like that on here.

The point of that statement is that if you want to call me racist, or even funnier, actually think i *am* racist...ok, whatever. We both know that what you actually know about me could fit comfortably into the space between bonded atoms.

  

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255. "RE: Its not about consigning everything"
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>
>>That was questionable as well
>
>If you mean its questionable that someone wpuld say that, i
>agree with you. If you are referring to my response to it, im
>not sure what to tell you. SoWhat's reaction to it was almost
>exactly the same as mine, so there were other rational people
>with the same feelings.

no i meant that your and his approach which clearly meant living in a racial bubble and not addressing any history or current reality ie a racially blind approach...

is quite questionable


>>Your point?
>>Oh your only but so brainwashed and stuck in a particular
>>pov?
>>Oh goody for you?
>
>What? My "brainwashed" POV is a complete unknown to you. I
>know this because I've never bothered to explain any of it to
>you, and have no plans to.
>
>>"...I prefer to post in a bubble?"
>
>Thats one interpretation i suppose. I would say im more
>interested in the choices people make.


>>We can tell you don't care
>>Hence your consistently questionable replies
>
>You keep using this word and i think you should just say what
>you mean so i can laugh it it.

i just did


>>Bigots tend to be comfortable in their views as well
>
>Getting closer!
>
>>Not sure what the point of that part of your statement
>>statement was except to ground yourself in your willful
>>ignorance by claiming some off board knowledge
>>It doesn't work like that on here.
>
>The point of that statement is that if you want to call me
>racist, or even funnier, actually think i *am* racist...ok,
>whatever. We both know that what you actually know about me
>could fit comfortably into the space between bonded atoms.

we do?
hey you type it for yourself
this isnt me doing this to you
you are consistent in what you do to yourself on here
and no your 'but i have black friends and have black friends with experience' off here approach?
not working
whats next you have a black wife?

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281. "LMAO merry christmas!"
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181. "RE: u guys really dont think this is the action of a condescending dick?..."
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>This is the douchiest #actually of all time



Nah...only a condescending douche would think that....

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184. "lol"
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159. "on the Grammy's...everyone says they ain't shit UNTIL they win one..."
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then the FIRST thing on their bio is GRAMMY AWARD WINNING ARTIST...so let's just stop pretending it's not 'important' to these artists.

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178. "I'm sayin tho..."
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>then the FIRST thing on their bio is GRAMMY AWARD WINNING
>ARTIST...so let's just stop pretending it's not 'important' to
>these artists.


People on THESE VERY BOARDS will even use it in a discussion about who's the better
artist or why someone has a better catalog. Negros acting like they aren't addicted
to white validation, LOL. So transparent.

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166. "Lets review"
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-Iggy does not give a shit, stop trying.

-Qtip Had good intentions but he is absolutely wasting his time.

Any thoughts you guys have outside of this is just your own personal horeshit getting involved in this situation. Again
Iggy doesnt care
Qtip cares but should of kept it moving.

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169. "iggy does have 3.57 mill followers, tho"
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if a handful of folks (be they blk, white, whatever) learn anything at all from what q-tip laid down - it was worth it, imo

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171. "RE: Lets review"
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I honestly think Iggy does care. That's why she's silent right now IMO. She's young and doesn't know what to say. This is the first time somebody addressed her in this manner. It's usually somebody attacking her which makes it easier to respond.

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177. "^^^^^^^^^"
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213. "I was wrong. She doesn't care. Which is cool"
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Not everybody has to care.

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183. "Yeah it almost comes as patronizing"
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She didn't ask for a lesson and she's not gonna admit that she doesn't know anything about hip-hop history. She very well could be knowledgeable about the music and still chooses to make crappy Music.

  

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180. "This reminds me of the early 90's"
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The Boom bap 90 BPM real hip hop vs. The Bady Boy Shiny suit stuff.

This just has the added layer of race in it. I'm not a fan of Iggy, but she is hip hop. She should, however know the history and she should have respect for it.

Is it a bit corny for her to just say hey I'm gonna do what these folks in Atlanta are doing and really contribute her own unique contribution artistically? Yes. But let's be real....Sugar Hill Gang did the same thing. They copied the real rappers from The Bronx, right down to stealing rhymes. This ain't nothing new.

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186. "Lupe Fiasco weighs in "
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http://twitter.com/LupeFiasco/status/547220293517713408

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191. "RE: Lupe Fiasco weighs in "
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I'm convinced a good amount of his followers exist just to antagonize him

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193. "RE: Lupe Fiasco weighs in "
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He loves egging them on too

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241. "RE: Lupe Fiasco weighs in "
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I haven't asked him but I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying to do anything in his power to get these people to unfollow him..

It's hard to have a convo with your supposed fans when there is an entire subset that will take anything you say or not say and turn it into something else

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205. "Lmao. Lupe actin' out while his PR team on xmas vacay."
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194. "she said Q-Tip was patronizing...welp...good bye hip hop in the history"
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books you will be blackboard erased like the rest of your musical ancestors.

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196. "lol Iggy is not that powerful"
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203. "you really think those were HER thoughts/words all these hours later? k."
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197. "Man I told you guys, she don't give a fuck. "
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Wasting of time on epic right now.

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207. "She basically said fuck him and I ain't playing hip hop squares with yal..."
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Cause yall dont know me and im finna have a merry Christmas, fuck yall!

BUT I think many young (black) artists similarly making the same kinda trash music probably feel the same exact way and don't give a fuck either.

  

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209. "i kind of like the fuck it attitude....is that not hip hop lol"
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Not even trolling, but WHY is she such a catalyst for ire? If you don't like her music don't buy it don't listen to it. (Btw don't agree she's specifically sayin fuck Qtip)

Basically Black people are mad b/c not only are our "talented" artists struggling (I out talented in quotes b/c I don't listen to Banks to know if she's good or not) but we're mad at white people for buying a white girl's pop/rap albums....what the fuck is the point

What do folks want her to do enroll at Howard? Does Iggy come off entitled, yes, but can that same argument not be made for Banks acting like she's the gatekeeper of the 4 tenents and how the've evolved?

AND when's the last time anybody in MMG or on YM saluted the pioneers? This is ridiculous lmao

  

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212. "Lol I dunno what they want that girl to do."
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>Not even trolling, but WHY is she such a catalyst for ire? If
>you don't like her music don't buy it don't listen to it. (Btw
>don't agree she's specifically sayin fuck Qtip

Maybe not but she damn sure dosent give af about what he's saying and lumped him in with the masses that are finger wagging her about what they think she dosent know.

>Basically Black people are mad b/c not only are our "talented"
>artists struggling (I out talented in quotes b/c I don't
>listen to Banks to know if she's good or not) but we're mad at
>white people for buying a white girl's pop/rap albums....what
>the fuck is the point

Yea I dunno what they want her to do cause black ppl damn sure arent the ones buying her music and enabling this.


>What do folks want her to do enroll at Howard? Does Iggy come
>off entitled, yes, but can that same argument not be made for
>Banks acting like she's the gatekeeper of the 4 tenents and
>how the've evolved?

The same exact argument can be applied to any 23-24 year old who thinks they have the world figured out. That's just how ppl in this age group act lol she just happens to be a white one.

>AND when's the last time anybody in MMG or on YM saluted the
>pioneers? This is ridiculous lmao

They kinda don't and that's the root issue here. A lot of our own artists don't even awknowledge or care about the pioneers but we expect others too, and get upset when they don't?

Iggy just making the same kinda trash music that Young Thug and all dem making and T.I saw an opportunity to capitalize off her whiteness her doing so. Are there other young black talented artists making quality music that he could have tried to give a platform to...sure, but he didn't cause he dosent give a fuck about the state of hip hop either. He cosigning Iggy and jumping on tracks with trashy artists like Young Thug too for the $$$$.

They asked this nigga Young Thug what he thought about Ferguson and he said " uh right now we iced out getting money out here, and that's what we doing." Lmao

  

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214. "right? LOL"
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i dig her attitude in response to this drama too. and i agree it's pretty HH of her. LOL

>Not even trolling, but WHY is she such a catalyst for ire? If
>you don't like her music don't buy it don't listen to it. (Btw
>don't agree she's specifically sayin fuck Qtip)

here, here!

>Basically Black people are mad b/c not only are our "talented"
>artists struggling (I out talented in quotes b/c I don't
>listen to Banks to know if she's good or not) but we're mad at
>white people for buying a white girl's pop/rap albums....what
>the fuck is the point

hello.

>What do folks want her to do enroll at Howard? Does Iggy come
>off entitled, yes, but can that same argument not be made for
>Banks acting like she's the gatekeeper of the 4 tenents and
>how the've evolved?

oops.

>AND when's the last time anybody in MMG or on YM saluted the
>pioneers? This is ridiculous lmao

i mean, really.

fuck you.

  

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215. "RE: i kind of like the fuck it attitude....is that not hip hop lol"
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>AND when's the last time anybody in MMG or on YM saluted the
>pioneers? This is ridiculous lmao

This tells me that you aren't listening to the music or the interviews. Rozay throws little lines in there to let you know he knows all the time. Of course its surrounded by a bunch of BS but its there. Wale shouts em out and Stalley had De La on his album. I don't listen to Meek so I can't speak on him.

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217. "Nick you just named the 3 Black friends you have"
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218. "RE: Nick you just named the 3 Black friends you have"
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I'm Black so I'm not understanding your joke. Sorry

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221. "Lol okay dense Danny"
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246. "RE: i kind of like the fuck it attitude....is that not hip hop lol"
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umm yea

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198. "The real Igloo Spears before the fake southern accent: (link)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IosP8iSnwNk

I guess when it didn't work out she studied Da Brat's "Funkdafied" and switched gears.

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200. "oh and never forget"
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her debut where she uses a young black boy as a prop as well as two teen girls while she repeats "pussy" and promotes drugs shirts.

And sidenote I have just as much hate in my heart for lil wayne, nicki, rick ross, and any other trash rapping about the same shit.

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201. "Not really."
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People have gone out of their way to fudge the timeline in order to power their agenda against Iggy, but this video was not made *before* she became a rapper.

She had already put out "Pu$$y" and other shit with her southern rap accent but when it was not catching on, she went to Europe and tried some other shit for a while before coming back and continuing with her rap shit.

Your mileage may vary on whether or not that makes her any less of an "inauthentic" trend-hopping phony but at least it has the simple benefit of being truth.

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202. "don't let double ok see this."
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240. "RE: don't let double ok see this."
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lol..

I've already seen this.. What AFKAP says is what it is..

Iggy is a pretty precarious success story.. up until like February of this year it almost didnt happen.. The label had no clue where she would land when they dropped the album.. They barely paid for videos, promo any of that

The real power behind all of this is Sarah Stennett and turn first. They were able to right the ship after the Grand Hustle thing kinda went south. The smartest thing they did was build a real base in the UK so that if America never took off at least she would have an ability to scale overseas and try again the next album (see their other artist Rita Ora).

But Fancy worked.. so here we are

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199. "I (mostly) agree with cgonz00cc."
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It *was* pretty condescending but I wouldn't say it's "douchey" per se because I'm sure Tip meant it from a sincere place.

(Perhaps the biggest problem is the fact that this "Hip-Hop History Lesson" everybody's raving about was factually incorrect and agenda-fueled.)

As much as I hate to have to agree with Iggy, it WAS patronizing, and I really wish Q-Tip would not have done that (while at the same time I'm amazing he spent all that time breaking it down into 140-word chunks)

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204. "please explain. how is it factually incorrect?"
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210. "The notion that hip-hop's roots are in activism/black struggle."
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I mean, you could class it as "black struggle" in the sense that one could loosely define all black expression in America as being a reaction to oppression... but the earliest hip-hop was about partying and snorting coke. Cats were literally rapping about nothing... rapping about the shoes they wore, how many chicks they banged, what sports team they liked.

It was pretty empty textually... much like Iggy's music.

It wasn't until "The Message" that hip-hop started showing awareness of its social surroundings... and not until the late 80s that it self-consciously styled itself as an instrument for the struggle.

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216. "you mean you agree w/kelving-bammer..."
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the ranting of an unmedicated lunatic.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2913968&mesg_id=2913968&page=

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219. "Funny... I just saw that post after I made my reply too"
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He's right, though.

"The Message" (1982) is acclaimed as the first socially-conscious hip-hop record, though there were a couple that came before it like Brother D's "How We Gonna Make The Black Nation Rise" (1980)

http://youtu.be/S-HQR2-s1J4

But most hip-hop before that was really about vacuous partying and all-American consumerism and consumption. I mean... it's not by accident by so many rappers had words like "Blow" and "Ski" in their names...

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226. "but there wasn't that much hip hop before The Message"
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Double Dutch Bus, Planet Rock, Egyptian Lover, etc...

The Message changed all of that.

It's like running around telling everyone Rosa Parks wasn't the first woman to NOT move from her seat. While true, it's just not that big of a deal when you look at the big picture.

If we stayed on that hippity, hop, bop, da diggity beat, style of rap... who the hell knows if rap would still be around.

  

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227. "There were parties, though. And there were tapes of parties."
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And there were also a lot more vinyl releases than you are assuming.

And it's not like after The Message most hip-hop immediately became devoted to "the black struggle" either.

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232. "I'm old bruh, i was born before hip hop was birthed"
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I was the 9 year old kid standing by the DJ nagging him to play Egyptian Lover 3 times in a row.

Part of the problem with hip hop history is people who weren't alive at the time keep trying to tell US what it felt like or how these songs were received when they dropped.

When The Message came out and people recited the lyrics it was a totally different "message" than anything we had every heard before.

  

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237. "I was very much there too, thank you very much."
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>Part of the problem with hip hop history is people who weren't
>alive at the time keep trying to tell US what it felt like or
>how these songs were received when they dropped.

Please do not mistake me for one of these youngbloods.

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228. "Wait... what does "ski" allude to?"
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>I mean... it's
>not by accident by so many rappers had words like "Blow" and
>"Ski" in their names...


I've never heard anyone use that as a term, and don't really know any og cokeheads so out in the dark here. My guess is "ski > snow > coke"

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230. "Correct, sir."
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>My guess is
>"ski > snow > coke"

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291. "Wow! All these years and I never knew that."
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Since 1976

  

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301. ""Cousin had me laced out SKIED all outta my face""
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(c) Raekwon

Cats that are from the early 80s know that term SKI very well.

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233. "so?"
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as i said over there, 1982's 'The Message' is rightly included as a seminal record in HH's origin. b/c in 1982 HH was still developing. it was still originating.

plus, as was pointed out over there, at those parties the DJs DID play records w/deeper meanings than let's get high and dance and fuck (like Last Poets records) alongside those party records you're referencing.

fuck you.

  

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234. "exactly... HH wasn't defined back in the late 70's early 80's"
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I was alive and aware when these records dropped and we had no idea what the hell was going on but we loved every minute of it.

When we heard The Message and learned the lyrics the energy was different from Double Dutch or Planet Rock.