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TheRealBillyOcean
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"Trevor Noah's debut on the Daily Show"


          

Pretty solid. I hope he stays a while.

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good stuff
Dec 06th 2014
1
his comedy special really surprised me
Dec 06th 2014
2
I watched his special on Showtime after he got the
Dec 07th 2014
14
I've been checking out his stand up over the past few months.
Dec 06th 2014
3
Meh. I wanted him to kill more than he killed.
Dec 07th 2014
4
I wonder if okp will like him now.
Dec 07th 2014
5
last time?
Dec 07th 2014
12
he's cute, i'm a fan
Dec 07th 2014
6
he is cute
Dec 07th 2014
7
His stand-up is excellent
Dec 07th 2014
8
I read that Jerrod Carmichael called HBO and said can I do a special?
Dec 07th 2014
9
Brb. I gotta make a phone call
Dec 07th 2014
10
Doesnt he have a Netflix special? Thats where I saw him
Dec 08th 2014
25
good stuff
Dec 07th 2014
11
I don't find him funny
Dec 07th 2014
13
annoying.
Dec 07th 2014
15
you are tripping
Dec 07th 2014
16
Yeah he completely missed the point
Dec 07th 2014
18
      oh god save me from smarter than thou ass internet nerds
Dec 07th 2014
19
           poor trevor. he was just trying to show solidarity
Dec 07th 2014
20
                hmmm... *this* is actually a great explanation of that beast of no natio...
Dec 07th 2014
21
                Thank for sharing that. One of my favorites
Dec 08th 2014
23
                as in if i wanted to hear a african preach to me, i'd jam fela
Dec 08th 2014
24
Dude was in SA making fun of their 40 ethnic groups and Nigerians too.
Dec 08th 2014
22
he was fine...
Dec 07th 2014
17
I am calling it now, this dude is going to bomb taking over the Daily Sh...
Jun 17th 2015
26
trevor noah is just not funny & that accent is annoying (sorry)
Jun 17th 2015
27
My order would be Colbert, Oliver then Stewart (in 2015)
Jun 17th 2015
28
Amy Poehler should have taken the job. He doesn't have the references
Jun 17th 2015
29
I don't see that at all.
Jun 17th 2015
31
msnbc tho? that's cold
Jun 17th 2015
30
Larry is pretty good imo. Not sure how Trev will do, because...
Jun 17th 2015
32
Lol what was solid about it?
Jun 18th 2015
33
They should do rotating two week hosts, and start with Chappelle.
Jun 18th 2015
34
Chris Rock considered taking the job for 1 year
Jun 19th 2015
35
Rock woulda been perfect
Jun 22nd 2015
38
There is really no incentive for an establish star to take it.
Jun 22nd 2015
39
      Yeah, but at least with Rock we wouldn't dread Jon leaving
Jun 22nd 2015
42
dont know what them wilmore #s looking like but hope hes got a lotta sla...
Jun 21st 2015
36
Oliver is great, imo.
Jun 22nd 2015
37
i HATE that accent... nothing he says will ever be funny to me
Jun 22nd 2015
40
I hate his style of delivery.
Jun 22nd 2015
41
      ^both of these.
Jun 22nd 2015
43
So a solid acquaintance says she met him a while ago before he blew up.
Jul 24th 2015
44
if he gave me a compliment i would prolly be offended due to the accent
Jul 24th 2015
45
smh
Jul 24th 2015
46
Lots of successful comics are smug af.
Jul 24th 2015
47
      Fam, don't try to step in here making sense.
Jul 24th 2015
48
           RE: Fam, don't try to step in here making sense.
Sep 15th 2015
53
F it I will admit it. For some reason I am looking for this dude to fail...
Sep 15th 2015
49
I think the problem is that he doesn't get America
Sep 15th 2015
50
That's an interesting take. It's a unique perspective...that I don't thi...
Sep 15th 2015
51
to paraphrase: &quot;he's doesn't get us like john oliver does!&quot;
Sep 15th 2015
54
You can't deny he's given more then a few problematic soundbites/posts
Sep 15th 2015
56
      So has stewart
Sep 15th 2015
61
I think this is a good assessment of him
Sep 15th 2015
59
It's the white Afrikaaner accent.
Sep 15th 2015
55
      You don't know what a white Afrikaaner accent sounds like then
Sep 15th 2015
60
           RE: You don't know what a white Afrikaaner accent sounds like then
Sep 15th 2015
62
Jon Stewart shouldn't have left. It was too soon.
Sep 15th 2015
52
his role as the only voice of sanity probably got to be too exhuasting
Sep 15th 2015
57
He hosted the show for over 15 years, he has put in plenty of time.
Sep 15th 2015
58
The boy is good. Already love the show.
Sep 30th 2015
63
He is alright. He is taking the least risky approach. The show has not
Sep 30th 2015
64
When Jon took over for Craig, it was the exact same
Sep 30th 2015
65
i don't love it yet
Sep 30th 2015
66
      The hater in me says a lot of comedians could do well reading that telep...
Sep 30th 2015
67
First shots fired. (swipe)
Nov 24th 2015
68
She's getting eaten up in the comments.
Nov 24th 2015
69
"trainwreck" is extra as hell
Nov 24th 2015
70
37% rating decline is pretty big deal but I hear you.
Nov 24th 2015
71
Nearly everything on TV has lower ratings than last year.
Nov 25th 2015
80
^ i agree w/all of this.
Nov 25th 2015
73
This chick's gonna try and tell me what is and isn't funny....
Nov 25th 2015
72
lmao... that is a terrible sentence
Nov 25th 2015
lol, basically
Mar 03rd 2016
84
I stopped reading at "I'm a millennial" ugh.
Nov 25th 2015
74
in fairness to Noah, the show lost its firepower after Bush left office
Nov 25th 2015
75
      nah, it was still good with Obama in office
Nov 25th 2015
78
           Yeah, I actually liked it more during Obama's term
Nov 25th 2015
79
He's doing fine; still a good show
Nov 25th 2015
76
Just watched a bit last night
Nov 25th 2015
77
it's fine, he's fine
Nov 25th 2015
81
I am with this dude, they should have given the show to Samantha B
Mar 03rd 2016
82
i don't watch her whole show, but it's funny because
Mar 03rd 2016
83

Ashy Achilles
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1. "good stuff"
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2. "his comedy special really surprised me"
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funny dude

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14. "I watched his special on Showtime after he got the "
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Daily Show gig and was pleasantly surprised. It was really funny. He has great stage presence and was very at ease.

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3. "I've been checking out his stand up over the past few months."
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Dude's legitimately funny.




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4. "Meh. I wanted him to kill more than he killed. "
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5. "I wonder if okp will like him now. "
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His jokes about Af-Ams notions of Africa didn't go over well last time.

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12. "last time?"
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>His jokes about Af-Ams notions of Africa didn't go over well
>last time.

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6. "he's cute, i'm a fan"
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7. "he is cute"
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8. "His stand-up is excellent "
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How Jerrod Carmichael got an HBO special before him boggles my mind. I hope he does a Netflix special or something soon

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9. "I read that Jerrod Carmichael called HBO and said can I do a special?"
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and called Spike Lee and asked him to direct it.


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10. "Brb. I gotta make a phone call"
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25. "Doesnt he have a Netflix special? Thats where I saw him"
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11. "good stuff"
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Just IMO though.

  

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13. "I don't find him funny"
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15. "annoying. "
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Look at me I'm african not black America is so weird lulz

Desus is funnier then this clown and desus ain't that damn funny

  

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16. "you are tripping"
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>Look at me I'm african not black America is so weird lulz
>
>Desus is funnier then this clown and desus ain't that damn
>funny

desus is hilarious

i think trevor noah is hilarious
and his skit was more look at me i am african not american.

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18. "Yeah he completely missed the point"
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19. "oh god save me from smarter than thou ass internet nerds"
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I got the point asshats the nigga ain't funny. Period. He comes off like a stiff typically over educated African lecturing. If I wanted to hear that bullshit, I'd jam some fela. Now both if you amscray

  

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20. "poor trevor. he was just trying to show solidarity"
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>I got the point asshats the nigga ain't funny. Period. He
>comes off like a stiff typically over educated African
>lecturing. If I wanted to hear that bullshit, I'd jam some
>fela. Now both if you amscray

and here you are projecting.

and now you are just playing if you are putting fela in the 'stiff typically overeducated African' category.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpua4dvUXs

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21. "hmmm... *this* is actually a great explanation of that beast of no natio..."
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http://nigeriamusicbox.com/fela-kutis-songs-lyrics/

fela!
very relevant today

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23. "Thank for sharing that. One of my favorites"
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Homey was singing his heart out and making it plain with this one.

  

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24. "as in if i wanted to hear a african preach to me, i'd jam fela"
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thanks.


does it really matter?

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22. "Dude was in SA making fun of their 40 ethnic groups and Nigerians too."
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He was in Australia talking about those sun baked bogans.

Lighten up, darky.

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And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
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17. "he was fine..."
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i wasn't blown away but I'm sure in time he'll be funnier.

Then again, he's always been hit or miss with me regarding his comedy so I'm not as jazzed with him like others are...

but these race jokes he dropped did hit. I chuckled in parts...

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26. "I am calling it now, this dude is going to bomb taking over the Daily Sh..."
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And part of me calling it has to do with CC's thinking that Larry Wilmore would be an adequate replacement for Stephen Colbert.

And I like Larry Wilmore. He would have been great on MSNBC.

But these two brothers are about to take the fall for the decline of CC late night. I think who ever was tapped to replace Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert was bound to pull a Deborah Norville.

I think the right way to have done it would have been rotating hosts for like a couple of years until audiences coalesce around one host.



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27. "trevor noah is just not funny & that accent is annoying (sorry)"
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and ive never really cared for larry wilmore (or stephen colbert)


jon oliver still the best (after stewart)

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28. "My order would be Colbert, Oliver then Stewart (in 2015)"
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29. "Amy Poehler should have taken the job. He doesn't have the references"
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This guy is just weak to me

  

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31. "I don't see that at all. "
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30. "msnbc tho? that's cold"
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Larry's at least better than that

  

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32. "Larry is pretty good imo. Not sure how Trev will do, because..."
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it's unlike anything you can possibly do without actually doing it.

It's not like being a correspondent.

It's not like standup.

It's not like sketch.

It's not like improv.

There are way too many elements that go into what John Oliver, Larry Wilmore, Colbert, and J-Stew does that make them good.

I liked J-Stew as a host of a talk show before he got on the Daily Show, but it's still not the same thing.

I hope the correspondents stay on for Noah's show. At least Jessica.

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33. "Lol what was solid about it?"
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It was okay. I find Larry pretty boring on his show too. I honestly dont know who would be a good replacement but so far im not really liking Trevor on this format yet. I dig his standup tho.




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34. "They should do rotating two week hosts, and start with Chappelle. "
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35. "Chris Rock considered taking the job for 1 year"
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http://www.vox.com/2015/6/18/8806755/chris-rock-daily-show

  

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39. "There is really no incentive for an establish star to take it. "
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Tons of work just to be compared to Jon Stewart.

Rock would have been awesome for a year but they really need to save the 2016 election for whoever the main person will be because it will be sooo much exposure.

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42. "Yeah, but at least with Rock we wouldn't dread Jon leaving"
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it would have created some excitement. and made the transition easier since we know it's temporary.

Plus i love Rock's brain, and his way of breaking things down

  

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36. "dont know what them wilmore #s looking like but hope hes got a lotta sla..."
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seems they already cut the panel size down and dropped some of weaker gags they debuted with

keep tweeking it imo



noah will probably grow into it, tho jessica w still woulda been the best fit
oliver is not that good but he benefits from having a week to put the show together, diff budget, and no censors



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37. "Oliver is great, imo."
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Jessica didn't want it. Too bad we didn't get Rock, though.

  

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40. "i HATE that accent... nothing he says will ever be funny to me"
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41. "I hate his style of delivery. "
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43. "^both of these."
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44. "So a solid acquaintance says she met him a while ago before he blew up. "
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She said immediately found him smug.

Now I find this to be more than just gossip because...well he comes off a smug in his stand-up and I am going to predict here and now that this will be his biggest criticism going forward.

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45. "if he gave me a compliment i would prolly be offended due to the accent"
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46. "smh"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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47. "Lots of successful comics are smug af."
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That in and of itself isn't the problem. People just want more Jon Stewart.

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48. "Fam, don't try to step in here making sense."
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Trevor was smug to a chick (allegedly) now that's gonna be his demise as host of the Daily Show.

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53. "RE: Fam, don't try to step in here making sense."
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>Trevor was smug to a chick (allegedly) now that's gonna be
>his demise as host of the Daily Show.

Thats the story and they are sticking to it!

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49. "F it I will admit it. For some reason I am looking for this dude to fail..."
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I can not put my finger on what about him annoys me (maybe it's the killer combo of light skin and african smugness) but he irritates me to no end. Then he says stuff like this.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/09/15/trevor_noah_s_comments_on_the_vanity_fair_photo_show_he_doesn_t_understand.html


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50. "I think the problem is that he doesn't get America"
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or the subtleties involved.

Not to say an outsider cannot get it; its why I think John Oliver does so well with his “WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!?” version of the daily show that’s consistently great on HBO. But I agree with you on the smugness. The funny thing is I don’t think he comes with an angle that’s wrong per say: he’s not some sellout right winger who doesn’t believe in race or gender issues. But I remember hearing him talk about growing up in hardcore Aparthied and I think that’s why he Kanye shrugs some of the equality issues we want him to get a bit more forceful with.

To him, a few women comedians having a good year is ‘good enough’ and thus sweating them getting locked out of late night talk shows isn’t that big a deal...its not like the real shit he had to deal with. Like I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get redlining/prison industrial complex etc on some "When I grew up you would get arrested for being in a white neighborhood, at least you got a chance to here, why you whining now?"

However, I have a sneaking suspicion he’s gonna get it after awhile; Hollywood does a great job of giving people their 'lolz, don't get it twisted, you still black' reality check.

That said, the Nightly Show is coming into its own and it’s unfortunate Larry Wilmore didn’t get the Daily Show slot; he would have been perfect out the gate instead of having to totally rework the Cobert show while finding his footing.

  

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51. "That's an interesting take. It's a unique perspective...that I don't thi..."
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go over well.


AA audiences will not get down with, "Yall got it good, it's not so bad" POV.

I think liberal audiences in general aren't interested in that POV.

Also I don't think Hollywood is going to help that POV. That's where all that New Black ish comes from.

I should also admit I had one acquaintance who described and interaction with him that has totally fueled my dislike of him.

>or the subtleties involved.
>
>Not to say an outsider cannot get it; its why I think John
>Oliver does so well with his “WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU
>PEOPLE!?!?” version of the daily show that’s consistently
>great on HBO. But I agree with you on the smugness. The
>funny thing is I don’t think he comes with an angle that’s
>wrong per say: he’s not some sellout right winger who
>doesn’t believe in race or gender issues. But I remember
>hearing him talk about growing up in hardcore Aparthied and I
>think that’s why he Kanye shrugs some of the equality issues
>we want him to get a bit more forceful with.
>
>To him, a few women comedians having a good year is ‘good
>enough’ and thus sweating them getting locked out of late
>night talk shows isn’t that big a deal...its not like the
>real shit he had to deal with. Like his views of race are
>probably racism 4.0 Jim Crow and I wouldn't be surprised if he
>doesn't get redlining/prison industrial complex etc on some
>"When I grew up you would get arrested for being in a white
>neighborhood, at least you got a chance to here, why you
>whining now?"
>
>I have a sneaking suspicion he’s gonna get it after awhile;
>Hollywood does a great job of giving people their 'lolz, don't
>get it twisted, you still black' reality check.
>
>That said, the Nightly Show is coming into its own and it’s
>unfortunate Larry Wilmore didn’t get the Daily Show slot; he
>would have been perfect.
>


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54. "to paraphrase: &quot;he's doesn't get us like john oliver does!&quot;"
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y'all really want to go with this?



and above "i hate his accent"
but john oliver now thats a good accent...


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56. "You can't deny he's given more then a few problematic soundbites/posts"
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and instead of being like, "yeah, television is racist" said "Hey, at least two black guys made it" and shrugged over sexism in above article buddy posted.

Like I said above, Larry Wilmore probably should have gotten the job.

  

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61. "So has stewart"
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who wasn't that damn funny


I like Larry As well
There's room for more than one black guy
esp one from overseas
Esp with John Oliver sitting on a show

Yall have to stop doing this to yourselves


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59. "I think this is a good assessment of him"
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Check out this recent interview with Entertainment Weekly that does a good job of giving some perspective on him.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/14/daily-show-trevor-noah-twitter-controversy-interview

The Daily Show host Trevor Noah talks Twitter controversy: 'We live in a world of faux outrage'

'You went back three years to find the tweets! ... Haven’t I changed?'

BY MELISSA MAERZ


Posted September 14 2015 — 6:52 PM EDT

When it was announced last March that a relatively unknown comic from South Africa would be replacing beloved icon Jon Stewart as host of The Daily Show on Sept. 28, there was a collective “Who’s that?” So we decided to get to know the 31-year-old a little better and ask him some questions as tough as the ones he’ll be asking. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Trevor Noah.


ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: You grew up in South Africa during ­apartheid as the son of a black mother and a white father. In your routines, you say that you were “born a crime.” What was that experience like?

TREVOR NOAH: It was a normal experience because it was the only experience I had. As a child, not that you don’t know your own suffering, but if it’s the norm, you don’t believe that it’s an extreme version of life.

EW: When your mother was stopped by the cops, she pretended you didn’t belong to her, almost as if she’d been caught with a stash of drugs and pretended they weren’t hers. You must’ve known that that was a different experience?

No, I genuinely didn’t. You know, I didn’t see my dad in public, but my other friends didn’t see their dads in public either. Some of them didn’t even know their dads. So in your mind, there’s many variations on what a dad is. You just think this is normal. It’s like if you grow up in a neighborhood where there’s crackheads, you don’t think crackheads are the weirdest thing — until you learn that there are places in the world where there are no crackheads running around.

EW: When did you realize that your situation was different?

Maybe when I was 10 or 11 years old. When kids ask you questions like, “Why is your dad white?” and these are questions you’ve never asked. As children, you don’t think, that’s the black crowd and that’s the white crowd. You just hang out. And then over time you’re taught who your social circle is and you start to minimize that circle and make it less diverse. So that’s when I started thinking, “Oh, I’m different, and that group of people is very different. Which group of people do I most relate to?”

EW: Which group did you most relate to?

I grew up in a black neighborhood. Black is the only experience I know intrinsically. But I can associate with white, because my dad is white. I’ve got friends who had no contact with white people whatsoever, so for them, white is the most foreign concept in the world. When I first moved out here to the United States, my only friend was a white Jewish guy from Pasadena. We’re still friends to this day. He directed my DVD specials both in South Africa and the U.S.

EW: What was the stand-up comedy scene like for you in South Africa? I read that comedy there is way more confrontational than it is in America, especially when it comes to talking about race.

Yes. We’ve had democracy for 20 years. That’s not a long time. All the comedians had an explosion of free speech, so people wanted to talk about race and politics in a world where we were never allowed to speak about that. I was always fascinated when I would watch comics from America and a guy would be complaining about how a bottle of milk opens. It was like, “Wow! I want to get to a place where the biggest problem in my life is the fact that the milk doesn’t open the way that I want it to! That’s a great life!” For me, I can do mundane comedy, but it’s like, is this really what I’m worried about? I’m not worried about milk. I’m worried about police brutality.

EW: When Comedy Central announced you as The Daily Show’s next host, some people complained that your early tweets were sexist or racist. Do you think we’re too eager to police comedy in this country?

Definitely. I understand where it comes from. But people would say, “Are you going to change?” And I’d say, “You went back three years to find the tweets! If I haven’t repeated those things, haven’t I changed?” If you look back three years and you’re not disappointed in who you were then, you’re not progressing.

But we live in a world of faux outrage. It’s hashtag this, hashtag that. There are people who jump onto trends before they even know what the trend is about. People want to be part of the good, but they don’t want to put the work in, so they think, “Can’t I just say that I agree?” Then you have an artificial inflation of what the problem is. All of the sudden you get all of these big scandals, but they’re not big, because everyone is on the periphery of the argument.

In South Africa, we have that in the rawest form: mob justice. In the townships, they’ve lost faith in the police, so they’ll exact a punishment themselves. One person catches a thief, and within then minutes, 50 people are beating up the thief. Some people are just walking past; they don’t know why the person is being beaten up! But they think, “You must be there for a reason.” It’s a place to let out your inner anger.

EW: When Jon Stewart started at The Daily Show, he targeted Fox News and right-wing talking points. How would you describe the political culture that you’ll be focusing on?

We’re coming to the end of a racial honeymoon. When Obama came into power, people went, “Maybe there is hope!” The same thing happened in South Africa. We got our first black president, and it was like, “Yeah!” But then you realize that it’s easier to vote a black man into power than it is to give all minorities the freedom they deserve. It’s a very tough realization when you’re like, that was just the first step. Right now America’s dealing with a lot of pent-up frustration and pain.

EW: Jon Stewart mostly covered cable news, but you’ve said you’ll cover BuzzFeed and Gawker, too. Does that mean you’ll critique media more generally, not just political coverage?

Politics, media, anything. Like I’m always amused by Vice. Sometimes it’s less about the news and more about “Look, we found 2-year-old babies that smoke!” Stuff like that is easy to satirize, because that’s really the role of The Daily Show, to sift through what should be news and what shouldn’t.

EW: The Daily Show has always been fairly left-of-center politically. Which way do you lean? Far left? More to the center?

I never grew up with those terms. We don’t have “progressive” and “conservative” . Even the word conservative is strange to me, because it implies that you’re against progress. So, Cecil the Lion — when I look at that story, I’m not going, “What is the left’s angle? What is the right’s?” I’m going, “What is the truth in this thing?” People hunt for sport all the time. We’re gonna make it seem like we’ve never walked past a bar that’s got buffalo heads in it? Then you realize, well, maybe it’s people finding an outlet for rage about police brutality. It’s like, “This poor lion did nothing! You just went out of your way to kill that lion!” It’s like the universe gave us a metaphor.

EW: You’re working with the same executive producers as Jon Stewart and many of the same writers. Is it important to you to have a more diverse writers’ room?

Definitely. Right now, we only have one writer of color, so that’s something that I’m definitely going to look to improve. At the same time, I would rather wait for the right person than just slot someone in because they’re a minority. You’re doing yourself and them a disservice if you’re putting someone in a position where they don’t have the ability to thrive, because then people go, “Oh, well, I guess that’s why we don’t have many minority writers!”

EW: When I asked Jon Stewart why late-night writers’ rooms aren’t more diverse, he said, very honestly, that people generally hire people they know. It’s a self-perpetuating problem. So when you come into an environment where most experienced staff writers are white men — even if they’re mostly very talented white men — how do you make those rooms more inclusive without specifically looking to hire someone who’s not a white man?

Well, that’s the thing. You have to realize is that it’s reflective of a segregation that’s in society. You ask very liberal white people, “Do you have any black friends?” And they’ll go, “Actually I don’t.” So that becomes part of the issue. I think the key is to let it happen organically. Obviously, I’m more likely to know black comedians and black writers, so already it’s not a stretch for me. I just reach out to the people I know already.

EW: When people analyze your time at The Daily Show, as they’ve been analyzing Stewart’s, what do you hope they’ll say?

Most important, I would love for them to say, “Who would’ve thought that after all this time, that show’s still funny?” Then, if people can say, “We thought of things differently because of him,” or, “We had conversations we never would’ve had because of him.” I want people to say, “He made a positive change in the world.”

EW: That’s interesting, because I think there’s an overemphasis on positivity in late-night right now. Jimmy Fallon is so likable, but he doesn’t ask tough questions. When late-night hosts come from overseas, their tone often changes. James Corden was very sarcastic when he was in the U.K., and now he’s very upbeat.

It depends on your personality. Fallon — he’s just doing Fallon. Leno is the same. I would argue that they got those jobs because they’re extremely likable. The U.K. is a very dark, sarcastic place. Corden might just know that’s not welcome here. In South Africa, we’re not dark. We’re just open. I’m not trying to offend people, but there’s a funny side of everything. Nelson Mandela laughed a lot. If you can laugh when you think you’re going to be in jail for the rest of your life, I don’t think anyone has an excuse to say there’s nothing to laugh about. There’s always something to laugh about.

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55. "It's the white Afrikaaner accent."
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Most of the black South African accents most of us have been exposed to don't sound like his. He sounds like one of the characters from Lethal Weapon 2, and it's jarring.

  

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60. "You don't know what a white Afrikaaner accent sounds like then"
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Coz that ain't it.

Like, at all.

  

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62. "RE: You don't know what a white Afrikaaner accent sounds like then"
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>Coz that ain't it.
>
>Like, at all.

Dammit let them do it to themselves

Because again John Oliver's accent
Way better
Of course
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52. "Jon Stewart shouldn't have left. It was too soon. "
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I don't know WTF was going on to make Jon leave but I don't like it.

  

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57. "his role as the only voice of sanity probably got to be too exhuasting"
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and just the fact that he was seen as that by so many. as good as he was at exposing bullshit, and how ridiculous so-called real news was, he did what he could by poking fun at it, only to watch the mountain of bullshit out there get worse. it has to be pretty taxing. probably part of why he's aged at a president's pace.

  

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58. "He hosted the show for over 15 years, he has put in plenty of time. "
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I still say the right way to do it was rotate a bunch of people over the course of a couple of years and see who the crowd reacts to.

Or even do co-host.

This choice just seems forced on us.

But then, before he started sub'ing for Jon Stewart I don't think I would have guessed Oliver would be the break out star.


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Five Star - https://goo.gl/jBHbVv
Appropriate Behavior - http://goo.gl/isCzTM
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63. "The boy is good. Already love the show. "
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64. "He is alright. He is taking the least risky approach. The show has not"
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changed at all except for who is reading the jokes off the prompter.

Can't blame him.
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Movies I need y'all bastids to see so we can discuss:

Five Star - https://goo.gl/jBHbVv
Appropriate Behavior - http://goo.gl/isCzTM
Ma

  

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65. "When Jon took over for Craig, it was the exact same"
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it didn't really become Jon's show for quite some time.

  

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66. "i don't love it yet"
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but he's doing just fine

  

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67. "The hater in me says a lot of comedians could do well reading that telep..."
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written by that writer staff.

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Movies I need y'all bastids to see so we can discuss:

Five Star - https://goo.gl/jBHbVv
Appropriate Behavior - http://goo.gl/isCzTM
Ma

  

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68. "First shots fired. (swipe)"
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http://www.salon.com/2015/11/24/trevor_noahs_just_not_funny_the_daily_show_is_a_trainwreck_i_know_because_i_watch_for_a_living/


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69. "She's getting eaten up in the comments."
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70. ""trainwreck" is extra as hell"
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i do feel like he's kinda lacking though

his delivery is decent, and the writing is clearly the same, but he still feels like a stand-in. in fact the writing being the same may be part of the problem, because before we kind of got the illusion that Stewart was coming up with all this shit, even if we knew he wasn't. or maybe it's just me, i dunno.

she also talks about his new 'sub-par' correspondents. Roy Wood Jr has been a bright spot so far. Desi Lydic has been decent. Hasan Manaj and the asian dude.. yeah they've been kind of ehh.

i still like it. but i don't watch ass religiously as before.

  

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71. "37% rating decline is pretty big deal but I hear you. "
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80. "Nearly everything on TV has lower ratings than last year. "
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Combine that with a new, relatively unknown host and yeah - that'll happen.

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73. "^ i agree w/all of this."
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fuck you.

  

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72. "This chick's gonna try and tell me what is and isn't funny...."
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....in a piece that contains the following line???:

"'The Daily Show’s' ratings have fallen like a drunk heckler slipping on watermelon guts at a Gallagher show."

Nah.

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"lmao... that is a terrible sentence"


          

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74. "I stopped reading at "I'm a millennial" ugh."
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75. "in fairness to Noah, the show lost its firepower after Bush left office"
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the height was during the mid-2000s


when Stewart and the show were an important voice in American satire.

  

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78. "nah, it was still good with Obama in office"
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cause their were so many assholes hating on Obama it made for good jokes...

I can't get past dudes accent...

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79. "Yeah, I actually liked it more during Obama's term"
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The level of bullshit seemed to increase. We had the rise of the tea party, CNN and other so-called legit news sources became even more ridiculous. Plus there was so much footage to go back and reference every time fox shit on Obama for something they had previously defended Bush for.

>cause their were so many assholes hating on Obama it made for
>good jokes...

  

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76. "He's doing fine; still a good show"
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It DOES feel like he's a fill-in, temporary host, though.

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77. "Just watched a bit last night"
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I havent ever been a religious watcher of the Daily Show, but I did like it with JS. I watched the new guy for a bit last night and it just wasn't really funny or good IMO. As long as Last Week Tonight is on I have no reason to watch the Daily Show.

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81. "it's fine, he's fine"
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the writers not changing at all is a problem though

jon stewart got folks believing he was that funny all on his own by being on the job 15 years

Trevor will be fine in another year especially if they tweek the writing a bit for his delivery

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82. "I am with this dude, they should have given the show to Samantha B"
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http://www.salon.com/2016/03/01/please_give_samantha_bee_the_daily_show_they_squandered_jon_stewarts_legacy_by_giving_the_show_to_the_wrong_host/

But wouldn't it be too transparent to dump the black guy for the woman this election year?


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83. "i don't watch her whole show, but it's funny because "
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from jump, it appears she might get as good at these viral quick hits as oliver is. she's not there yet, but she's close.

the commercials and segments are on point, even if i'm not a fan of her delivery.

which my assumption is what noah-hosting-the-daily show was supposed to produce. they were supposed to be relevant on the internets, right?

  

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