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CherNic
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"Justice for Mike Brown (part 4)"


  

          

No more fools. Watching that single tear come down his mother's cheek is powerful.

  

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let me turn on cnn
Aug 25th 2014
1
Al is on stage. Jesse in the pews. choir is showing OUT!!!!!!
Aug 25th 2014
5
i love it when ppl have REAL church in a situation like this.
Aug 25th 2014
2
these nyggas is showing OUT in that chapel. floor SHAKING
Aug 25th 2014
3
me too. I've already cried and the service has barely started.
Aug 25th 2014
4
      turn to ya neighbor and say, 'you DID come to church!'
Aug 25th 2014
6
if i had a church funeral my ppl would even make ME into a holy roller.
Aug 25th 2014
7
We don't do that GAY STUFF and just give you some dap!!!
Aug 25th 2014
8
I thought she said gang stuff.
Aug 25th 2014
10
anyone have a streaming link?
Aug 25th 2014
9
RE: anyone have a streaming link?
Aug 25th 2014
11
      another
Aug 25th 2014
13
he's doing too much w/this biblical numerological sermonizing.
Aug 25th 2014
12
YOU BETTA PREACH, REV AL!!! Tell it!
Aug 25th 2014
14
Live Feed.... Here
Aug 25th 2014
15
Al is real good at this part
Aug 25th 2014
16
Al turned it out...The Lamb and The Lion will lay together....
Aug 25th 2014
17
i love all of his commentary on the naysaying re: the protests.
Aug 25th 2014
18
Ms Browns dude is killin me!!
Aug 25th 2014
19
I wish more young people were able to speak
Aug 25th 2014
20
The police killed my cousin last night in Chicago
Aug 25th 2014
21
whoa..sorry for your loss...this is fkd up
Aug 25th 2014
23
wow...I'm so sorry for your loss
Aug 25th 2014
25
Sorry for your loss... That's not far from me.
Aug 25th 2014
29
I saw this as I got dressed this morning
Aug 25th 2014
30
:-( Sorry for your loss....
Aug 25th 2014
31
Read about this earlier
Aug 25th 2014
32
RIP DeSean
Aug 25th 2014
37
thanks for all the support... Just 10 months ago DeSean was shot
Aug 25th 2014
38
woke up thinking about you and your fam
Aug 26th 2014
44
is that his pops in the pic? As a man with a son...
Aug 26th 2014
45
im terribly sorry stone
Aug 25th 2014
42
wow.
Aug 26th 2014
43
tragic. very sorry to hear that =(
Sep 06th 2014
64
Condolences. This is terrible and ridiculous. We got to fix it.
Sep 07th 2014
65
wow. my condolences
Sep 09th 2014
68
damn
Aug 25th 2014
22
Rev. Al Sharpton is a Preacher all day long!
Aug 25th 2014
24
man, I've been in that church so many times it ain't funny...
Aug 25th 2014
26
Mad I missed it. Any chance you think they'll replay it?
Aug 25th 2014
27
Mad I missed it. Any chance you think they'll replay it?
Aug 25th 2014
28
This pic of his father....my Lord
Aug 25th 2014
33
God... that is uncensored grief.
Aug 25th 2014
34
they should not have shown that. i cant even imagine
Aug 25th 2014
36
      Yeah...
Aug 25th 2014
41
wow
Aug 25th 2014
35
POWERFUL. We need to see toll, the pain, the grief and affects
Aug 26th 2014
46
      We live in a cold world and colder country
Sep 04th 2014
53
Oops! Edit.
Aug 25th 2014
39
so does this mark the end of the news cycle?
Aug 25th 2014
40
SoWhat (and other lawyers)....how long does grand jury take?
Aug 26th 2014
47
there's no set time.
Aug 26th 2014
48
im watching nancy grace
Aug 26th 2014
49
DOJ is going to investigate Ferguson PD
Sep 04th 2014
50
It is so crazy how fast this story disappered
Sep 04th 2014
51
things are still happening. people still protesting.
Sep 04th 2014
52
there are folks still paying attention to it.
Sep 04th 2014
54
oop
Sep 04th 2014
57
      News Cycle like anything else.
Sep 06th 2014
62
RE: It is so crazy how fast this story disappered
Sep 04th 2014
56
martin and dunn were not stand your ground cases
Sep 09th 2014
69
media moved on, ppl/stories didn't
Sep 04th 2014
60
      also - changes to court procedures in Ferguson to chill
Sep 11th 2014
74
Whatever happent to the DOJ autopsy????
Sep 04th 2014
55
still part of an ongoing investigation I'm assuming.
Sep 04th 2014
59
.
Sep 04th 2014
58
eyewitness accounts
Sep 06th 2014
61
Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Robbery Tape:
Sep 06th 2014
63
a full month and Darren Wilson is somewhere playing Madden
Sep 09th 2014
66
9/8 boycott was a success btw nm
Sep 09th 2014
67
more deets
Sep 09th 2014
70
if it ain't on Reddit, Neogaf, etc.
Sep 09th 2014
71
      mofo you got a Neogaf login?
Sep 11th 2014
75
      LOL @ You expecting white niggas on Neogaf and Reddit to care.
Sep 11th 2014
77
           if something important happens I expect it to show up somewhere
Sep 17th 2014
83
New Michael Brown shooting witnesses describe scene
Sep 11th 2014
72
Hopefully this puts a fucking sock in Hannity and O'Reilly
Sep 11th 2014
73
wilson is on paid vacation with a nice fund raiser
Sep 11th 2014
76
Post-Dispatch: Darren Wilson testified for grand jury
Sep 17th 2014
78
lol...my bad
Sep 17th 2014
79
      What kind of mess was that?
Sep 17th 2014
80
      hunh?
Sep 17th 2014
81
      You gotta answer the survey question to see the full story
Sep 17th 2014
82
don't know how factual this is
Sep 18th 2014
84
somehow his memorial burned down yesterday
Sep 24th 2014
85
Mayhem again tonight. Police attacked protestors. Nothing's changed smh
Sep 26th 2014
86
USA Today: Ferguson police chief issues apology to Brown family
Sep 26th 2014
87
Police Plan for Possible Riots if Brown Cop Not Charged
Oct 07th 2014
88
Ferguson Weekend of Resistance October 10th-13th
Oct 07th 2014
89
So this weekend was/is Ferguson October
Oct 12th 2014
90
Darren Wilson Recounts a Struggle with Michael Brown (NYT swipe)
Oct 18th 2014
91
Eric Holder: Whatever happened to the DOJ autopsy?
Oct 18th 2014
92
The Federal
Oct 18th 2014
93
they really ain't gonna indict this motherfucker
Oct 22nd 2014
94
He's gonna sign autographs with G Zimmerman this time next year
Oct 22nd 2014
95
      The second part of your reply is the truest
Oct 22nd 2014
98
Well the city/media dropped the, "He had Marijuana in his System" BOMB!
Oct 22nd 2014
96
they released that a while ago, catch up
Oct 22nd 2014
97
Brown shot in hand at close range. Evidence of significant altercation (...
Oct 22nd 2014
99
Grand Juror Suing Prosecutor
Jan 06th 2015
100
I hope this doesn't just blow away in the wind
Jan 06th 2015
101
I'm not sure this has any legs...
Jan 06th 2015
102
      When doing nothing is not an option
Jan 06th 2015
103
           42 U.S. Code § 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights
Jan 06th 2015
104
Bar Complaint Filed Against McCulloch
Jan 07th 2015
105
here's the problem though
Jan 07th 2015
106
prosecutor mccollough found lying abt past officer-shooting case
Jan 12th 2015
107
No Charges: U.S. Not Expected to Fault Officer in Ferguson Case
Jan 22nd 2015
108

deejboram
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1. "let me turn on cnn"
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Mon Aug-25-14 10:28 AM by deejboram

  

          

damn
they giving him a $50,000 funeral
yeah man good stuff
send him off right
i see jesse in the crowd
is al there?

  

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5. "Al is on stage. Jesse in the pews. choir is showing OUT!!!!!!"
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choir is showing OUT!!!!!!

  

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2. "i love it when ppl have REAL church in a situation like this."
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fuck you.

  

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deejboram
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3. "these nyggas is showing OUT in that chapel. floor SHAKING"
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LOL
for all the world see
PRAISE JESUS

  

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4. "me too. I've already cried and the service has barely started."
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6. "turn to ya neighbor and say, 'you DID come to church!'"
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LOL

fuck you.

  

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7. "if i had a church funeral my ppl would even make ME into a holy roller."
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LOL

fuck you.

  

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8. "We don't do that GAY STUFF and just give you some dap!!!"
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Awwright Mike-Mike!!!

  

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10. "I thought she said gang stuff."
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nm

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9. "anyone have a streaming link?"
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Mon Aug-25-14 11:11 AM by lfresh

  

          

nevermind its on CNN

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11. "RE: anyone have a streaming link?"
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http://www.stltoday.com/news/multimedia/videos/ktvi-fox-livestream-michael-brown-funeral-service/html_334c1356-59f7-529c-ab7a-f92aa109ed30.html

fuck you.

  

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13. "another"
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/25/michael-brown-funeral_n_5707767.html

  

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12. "he's doing too much w/this biblical numerological sermonizing."
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fuck you.

  

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14. "YOU BETTA PREACH, REV AL!!! Tell it!"
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15. "Live Feed.... Here"
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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc2/watch/live-video-michael-brown-funeral-321757763801.
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16. "Al is real good at this part"
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17. "Al turned it out...The Lamb and The Lion will lay together...."
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18. "i love all of his commentary on the naysaying re: the protests."
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he's nailing it.

fuck you.

  

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19. "Ms Browns dude is killin me!!"
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too cool for school

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20. "I wish more young people were able to speak"
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They the ones getting shot in the street left and right but never a voice at events like this. If they did... I missed it.

I like half of what Al had to say, especially about the requirements of christ lovers beyond being heavenly bound and how does America look militarized on TV and gunning down children in the street. He's a great orator can't take that away from him.
His disconnect from young people was apparent as always.

  

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21. "The police killed my cousin last night in Chicago"
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claiming he had a gun he pointed at them. My family is saying there was a fight, and he was out there trying to see what happened. He saw someone on the ground wounded and was standing over him when the police fired on him. 79th and Ingleside.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/29466411-418/police-involved-shooting-reported-in-east-garfield-park.html#.U_tvtPldU1I

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23. "whoa..sorry for your loss...this is fkd up"
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popo aint shit.. RIP DeSean

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25. "wow...I'm so sorry for your loss"
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29. "Sorry for your loss... That's not far from me."
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That news article on it is tragic:

Two hours later, a second police-involved shooting was reported in 900 block of East 80th Street in the Chatham neighborhood on the South Side.

About 9:10 p.m., a civilian walked up to four uniformed officers near 79th and Ingleside and told them there was a large group about to fight about a block south, according to Fraternal Order of Police spokesman Pat Camden.

As officers walked south toward 80th, they saw the group starting to disperse, Camden said. One male ran through a gangway and two officers chased after him, he said.

Two officers on Ingleside heard gunfire and saw a male, thought to be 17 or 18, standing over another male who had been shot, Camden said. The male still standing turned and pointed a semi-automatic handgun at police, who then shot him. He was dead at the scene. The other male was listed in critical condition.


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30. "I saw this as I got dressed this morning"
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That is SO SO SO SO close to my house.

Be strong hun.
My prayers are with you and your family.

(Inbox me the service details. I would like to come.)

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31. ":-( Sorry for your loss...."
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32. "Read about this earlier"
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Sorry for your loss.

  

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37. "RIP DeSean"
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Really heartbroken to hear this.

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38. "thanks for all the support... Just 10 months ago DeSean was shot"
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http://s29.postimg.org/hwar56y7r/10635923_906769159352005_7369674176802195273_n_j.jpg

caught in the crossfire of shooting. The police shot him 8 or more times.
I'm all the way in Brooklyn, so I'm not getting all the details.
This is just too much right now. I'm literally burnt out emotionally.

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44. "woke up thinking about you and your fam"
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as you can please do follow this up and let us know if there's anything that can be done to help.

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45. "is that his pops in the pic? As a man with a son..."
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I can't even begin to imagine. Fuck, that's gotta be hurtful.

  

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42. "im terribly sorry stone"
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43. "wow."
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peace

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64. "tragic. very sorry to hear that =("
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65. "Condolences. This is terrible and ridiculous. We got to fix it."
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68. "wow. my condolences "
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unbelievable


does it really matter?

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22. "damn"
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i missed most of it.

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24. "Rev. Al Sharpton is a Preacher all day long! "
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26. "man, I've been in that church so many times it ain't funny..."
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my mother went to school with the Pastor.

  

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27. "Mad I missed it. Any chance you think they'll replay it?"
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Somebody's lying...

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28. "Mad I missed it. Any chance you think they'll replay it?"
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Somebody's lying...

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33. "This pic of his father....my Lord "
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http://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/504086628009127936/photo/1

  

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34. "God... that is uncensored grief."
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36. "they should not have shown that. i cant even imagine"
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im gettin tight in my throat even feeling it for him
never want to bury your child

  

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41. "Yeah... "
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If that was me, in my darkest moment, I wouldn't want the world to see it. That is almost a mlk pointing off the balcony iconic picture though.
Sheer horror.

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35. "wow"
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46. "POWERFUL. We need to see toll, the pain, the grief and affects "
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of senseless murders - it has to STOP. There is nothing like the grief of a parent.




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53. "We live in a cold world and colder country"
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I'd suspect at least 45% of the public actually got off on all the images. From the autopsy sketch to the grief stricken parents.

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39. "Oops! Edit."
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Already posted




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40. "so does this mark the end of the news cycle?"
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47. "SoWhat (and other lawyers)....how long does grand jury take?"
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I know there isn't a set time but what's the course of action people take until the jury decides whether they want to give the case to the prosecutor (is that how it works?)

  

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48. "there's no set time."
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and there's no course of action as far as i know.

from what i can tell this case is proceeding as it should.

fuck you.

  

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49. "im watching nancy grace"
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this lady lying saying gun shots are HOURLY on nancy grace
she a got damn BALD FACE lie

  

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50. "DOJ is going to investigate Ferguson PD"
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-dept-to-probe-ferguson-police-force/2014/09/03/737dd928-33bc-11e4-a723-fa3895a25d02_story.html?tid=pm_pop

Justice Dept. to probe Ferguson police force

The Justice Department is launching a civil rights probe into the Ferguson Police Department after the shooting of an unarmed black teen Michael Brown, setting off days of protests. (Reuters)

By Sari Horwitz, Carol D. Leonnig and Kimberly Kindy September 3 at 7:59 PM

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. this week will launch a broad civil rights investigation into the Ferguson, Mo., Police Department, according to two federal law enforcement officials.

The investigation, which could be announced as early as Thursday afternoon, will be conducted by the Justice Department’s civil rights division and follow a process similar to that used to investigate complaints of profiling and the use of excessive force in other police departments across the country, the officials said.

The move follows the shooting last month of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old African American, by a white Ferguson police officer who claimed he acted in self-defense. Brown, who was unarmed, was shot at least six times on the afternoon of Aug. 9.

Holder’s decision will represent the Obama administration’s most aggressive step to address the Ferguson shooting, which set off days of often-violent clashes between police and demonstrators in the streets of the St. Louis suburb.

The federal officials said the probe will look not only at Ferguson but also at other police departments in St. Louis County. Some, like Ferguson, are predominantly white departments serving majority-African-American communities, and at least one department invited the Justice Department to look at its practices. The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the pending inquiry.

The investigation is in addition to a Justice Department probe into whether Officer Darren Wilson, who fired the fatal shots, violated Brown’s civil rights. The new probe will look more broadly at whether the department employed policies and practices that resulted in a pattern of civil rights violations.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that five current and one former member of the Ferguson police force face pending federal lawsuits claiming they used excessive force. The lawsuits, as well as more than a half-dozen internal investigations, include claims that individual officers separately hog-tied a 12-year-old boy who was checking his family mailbox, pistol-whipped children and used a stun gun on a mentally ill man who died as a result.

In addition to the investigations, a St. Louis County grand jury is hearing evidence that could lead to charges against Wilson.

The number of police department reviews the Justice Department has initiated under Holder for possible constitutional violations is twice that of any of his predecessors. At least 34 other departments are under investigation for alleged civil rights violations.

In April, for example, the Justice Department issued a scathing report concluding that the Albuquerque Police Department had repeatedly used deadly and excessive force in violation of citizens’ constitutional rights when there was no imminent threat to them or the community. The assistant attorney general with the department’s civil rights division said at the time that the Albuquerque department suffered from “inadequate oversight, inadequate investigation of incidents of force, inadequate training of officers to ensure they understand what is permissible or not.”

In certain cases, such as with the New Orleans and Seattle police departments, the Justice Department under Holder has conducted a civil rights investigation parallel with a criminal investigation.

A 1994 federal law gave the civil rights division the authority to probe whether police departments are engaging in a “pattern or practice” of violating constitutional rights or federal rights. The law was enacted after the videotaped beating of African American motorist Rodney King by Los Angeles police officers.
Relatives and community leaders including the Rev. Al Sharpton shared memories and guidance for moving forward at a funeral held for 18-year-old Michael Brown in St. Louis, Mo., on Monday. Brown was fatally shot by officer Darren Wilson in Ferguson, Mo., on Aug. 9. (Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)

The investigations can be collaborative arrangements, with police chiefs encouraging the thorough reviews, training recommendations and reform ideas the civil rights division proposes. One of the earliest investigations came when then-D.C. Police Chief Charles Ramsey invited the Justice Department to help him in the wake of a Washington Post investigation that found his officers shot and killed more people in the 1990s than any other large police department in the country.

Federal investigators look at patterns of excessive force, complaints against officers, and department training to help officers avoid racial profiling and unnecessary use of force.

An investigation often ends up in a lawsuit brought by the Justice Department against a local police department. Justice Department officials could also reach a settlement with the police department, which includes a consent decree and federal monitoring, as was the case with police forces in New Orleans and San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Brown was stopped by Wilson in Ferguson as he walked down the middle of a neighborhood street with a friend. Wilson has told investigators that Brown reached for his gun while they had a scuffle at his car, law enforcement authorities have told The Post.

Community witnesses say Brown was assassinated in the street. They say he had run from the officer after an argument at the policeman’s car, then turned around to surrender after being shot at and being frightened. The six shots in his body all appeared to enter his body from the front, including two in his head, according to an independent autopsy.

Justice Department spokesman Brian Fallon could not be reached for comment. Calls to Ferguson Mayor James Knowles were not immediately returned Wednesday. E-mails to the Ferguson Police Department’s public-relations firm were not immediately returned.

News of the expanded probe comes as community leaders in Ferguson say the Brown case has brought scores of new allegations of local police brutality to their attention.

“I’ve literally had to pull my staff from Jefferson City and put them in Ferguson because of the number of people who are saying they’ve had past issues with the police,” said state Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal (D), whose district includes Ferguson. She said she is “fully supportive” of an expanded probe into the department.

“Because of the Michael Brown situation, I have been getting other e-mails and phone calls and tweets about other individuals who have allegations of police brutality,” Chappelle-Nadal said. “The expansion of an investigation is by all means a great thing. I absolutely welcome this.”

Julie Tate, Wesley Lowery and Alice Crites contributed to this report.

  

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51. "It is so crazy how fast this story disappered"
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Was it the funeral that put a close to it? Are people still protesting, or is it business as usual again?

Our attention span is so limited. Like it's impossible to juggle multiple events at the same time. Are they still fighting in Gaza? All I hear about now on the news channels is ISIS.

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52. "things are still happening. people still protesting."
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It's not as much day to day action but there is still action.

  

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54. "there are folks still paying attention to it."
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but the news is off the ground because it isn't pulling the viewership and isn't getting sexy enough headlines.

the real headlines now are about the imbedded corruption in the municipal, local, and state level that is supposed to be investigating this. And how the feds were already in Ferguson to investigate similar dealings.

Its going to take an arrest for this story to get back on the daily cycle the way it way, but basically white folx are over it (plus alot of shows went on/had breaks in their programming). But it's not a dead story.

we gotta do our part.

Meanwhile, what's happening with cancelling Christmas?

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57. "oop"
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>Meanwhile, what's happening with cancelling Christmas?
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bae you been preachin lately. I almost picked you in a couple fantasy leagues

  

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62. "News Cycle like anything else."
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Shit got old real fast.
The fake rage, fake leadership, fake relevance. America sees through that shit.

  

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56. "RE: It is so crazy how fast this story disappered"
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crazy is expecting black people to do anything beyond getting mad and waiting for white people to systemically change society for them
trayvon had more media traction than this and what change came from that outrage?
did stand your ground even get challenged legislatively?

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69. "martin and dunn were not stand your ground cases"
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the duty to retreat thing was not even a part of either defense. they could have mounted that defense in any state, even non-SYG states. so as much as the case exposed things like ALEC and that we should be fighting them, it's not just a matter of repealing SYG statutes in the 25 or so states that have them. i think it's more nuanced, more how we treat this particular type of affirmative defense (typically affirmative defenses are very challenging for criminal defense lawyers).

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60. "media moved on, ppl/stories didn't"
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-DOJ investigating the entire PD
-protesters suing the PD for $40 mill
-st Louis newspaper sued to get mike browns juvenile records, turned up nothing
-the fund for killer cop was frozen by the anonymous originator, dude might have scammed them
-3 cops resigned/suspended so far
-voter registration and police enrollment drives
-the bul Antonio french started an org



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74. "also - changes to court procedures in Ferguson to chill "
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with the excessive fines and all that

- two new white witnesses who corroborate that brown was fleeing, then surrendered, had his hands up
- (today) video of the two new witnesses right after the incident, when they were stating that he had his hands up and that the cop just shot him.

there's lots of stuff ongoing.


it will take effort to keep it in the media, though.


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55. "Whatever happent to the DOJ autopsy????"
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59. "still part of an ongoing investigation I'm assuming."
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politics moves slow, but we could move quick.

just need the right platform to mobilize around.

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58. "."
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On a journey for enlightenment.

  

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61. "eyewitness accounts"
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http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_14a3e5f8-6c6a-5deb-92fe-87fcee622c29.html#.VAsIxSQqGtw.twitter


Among the claims that ignited the fury over the fatal shooting of Michael Brown were that Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson chased the unarmed teen on foot, shot at him as he ran away, then fired a barrage of fatal shots after Brown had turned around with his hands up.
Almost all of the witnesses who shared these accounts with media either knew Brown; lived at or near the Canfield Green apartments, where the shooting occurred; or were visiting friends or relatives there.

But there were two outsiders who happened to be working outside at the apartment complex on Aug. 9 — two men from a company in Jefferson County — who heard a single gunshot, looked up from their work and witnessed the shooting.

Both have given their statements to the St. Louis County police and the FBI. One of the men agreed to share his account with a Post-Dispatch reporter on the condition that his name and employer not be used.

The worker, who has not previously spoken with reporters, said he did not see what happened at the officer’s car — where Wilson and Brown engaged in an initial struggle and a shot was fired from Wilson’s gun.

His account largely matches those who reported that Wilson chased Brown on foot away from the car after the initial gunshot and fired at least one more shot in the direction of Brown as he was fleeing; that Brown stopped, turned around and put his hands up; and that the officer killed Brown in a barrage of gunfire.

But his account does little to clarify perhaps the most critical moment of the confrontation, on which members of the grand jury in St. Louis County may focus to determine whether the officer was justified in using lethal force: whether Brown moved toward Wilson just before the fatal shots, and if he did, how aggressively.

At least one witness has said Brown was not moving. Others didn’t mention him moving, while still others have said he was heading toward Wilson.

There is no way to determine how many witnesses have spoken to law enforcement without making public statements. The worker acknowledged that his account could be valuable to the case because he did not know either Brown or Wilson and had no ties to Ferguson.

The worker said he saw Brown on Aug. 9 about 11 a.m. as Brown was walking west on Canfield Drive, toward West Florissant Avenue.

He said Brown struck up a rambling, half-hour conversation with his co-worker.

The co-worker could not be reached for comment through his employer. He previously told KTVI (Channel 2) that he had uttered a profanity in frustration after hitting a tree root while digging. Brown heard him and stopped to talk.

Brown “told me he was feeling some bad vibes,” the co-worker told KTVI in a video that aired Aug. 12. “That the Lord Jesus Christ would help me through that as long as I didn’t get all angry at what I was doing.”

The worker interviewed by the Post-Dispatch said he paid attention to little of the conversation. He said he heard Brown tell his co-worker that he had a picture of Jesus on his wall; and the co-worker joked that the devil had a picture of him on the wall.

The co-worker told KTVI that Brown promised to come back and resume their conversation; Brown walked away, and the workers returned to their job.

About a half-hour later, the worker heard a gunshot. Then he saw Brown running away from a police car. Wilson trailed about 10 to 15 feet behind, gun in hand. About 90 feet away from the car, the worker said, Wilson fired another shot at Brown, whose back was turned.

The worker said Brown stumbled and then stopped, put his hands up, turned around and said, “OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.” He said he told investigators from the St. Louis County police and the FBI that because of the stumble, it seemed to him that Brown had been wounded.

A private autopsy showed that all but one of his gunshot wounds came while Brown was facing Wilson. Shawn L. Parcells, who participated in the autopsy, said one of the wounds to the arm could have occurred when Brown was facing away from Wilson. “It’s inconclusive,” he said. St. Louis County and federal autopsy results have not been released.

Wilson, gun drawn, also stopped about 10 feet in front of Brown, the worker said.

Then Brown moved, the worker said. “He’s kind of walking back toward the cop.” He said Brown’s hands were still up.

Wilson began backing up as he fired, the worker said.

After the third shot, Brown’s hands started going down, and he moved about 25 feet toward Wilson, who kept backing away and firing. The worker said he could not tell from where he watched — about 50 feet away — if Brown’s motion toward Wilson after the shots was “a stumble to the ground” or “OK, I’m going to get you, you’re already shooting me.”

Among people who have spoken to the media, there hasn’t been a clear consensus on what happened after Brown turned around.

Dorian Johnson — a friend of Brown’s who said he was walking with him when Wilson approached them on Canfield and told them to get off the street — told CNN that Brown was “beginning to tell the officer he was unarmed and to tell him to stop shooting.” Johnson, 22, told KTVI Brown was starting to get down when he was shot.

Johnson also told MSNBC that Wilson began shooting before Brown “could get his last words out.”

Another witness who lives nearby, Michael T. Brady, 32, told CNN that Brown turned with his hands under his stomach. He also said Brown took one or two steps toward Wilson as he was going down when Wilson fired three or four more times.

Piaget Crenshaw, who lives in the Canfield apartments, and Tiffany Mitchell, her boss, were in different places in the complex. Crenshaw told CNN that Brown didn’t move toward Wilson. In several statements to reporters, neither has mentioned Brown moving toward Wilson.

The New York Times quoted James McKnight as saying Brown stumbled toward Wilson, who was 6 to 7 feet away.

Phillip Walker, 40, another Canfield Green resident, told the Post-Dispatch on Tuesday that Brown was walking at a steady pace toward Wilson, with his hands up. “Not quickly,” Walker said. “He did not rush the officer.” Walker, who is distantly related to a Post-Dispatch reporter not involved in this report, said the last shot, into the top of Brown’s head, was from about 4 feet away.

“It wasn’t justified because he didn’t pose no threat to the officer. I don’t understand why he didn’t Tase him if he deemed him to be hostile. He didn’t have no weapon on him. I was confused on why he was shooting his rounds off like that into this individual,” Walker said.

The co-worker in the KTVI interview said he “starting hearing pops and when I look over … I seen somebody staggering and running. And when he finally caught himself he threw his hands up and started screaming, ‘OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.’”

He said the officer “didn’t say, ‘Get on the ground.’ He didn’t say anything. At first his gun was down and then he … got about 8 to 10 feet away from him … I heard six, seven shots … it seemed like seven. Then he put his gun down. That’s when Michael stumbled forward. I’d say about 25 feet or so and then fell right on his face.”

No witness has ever publicly claimed that Brown charged at Wilson. The worker interviewed by the Post-Dispatch disputed claims by Wilson’s defenders that Brown was running full speed at the officer.

“I don’t know if he was going after him or if he was falling down to die,” he said. “It wasn’t a bull rush.”

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63. "Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Robbery Tape:"
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File this under "the jig"

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Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Michael Brown Robbery Tape: Report (UPDATED)
Simon McCormack 09/05/14 01:47 PM ET
Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson lied when he said he had received "many" specific requests for the videotape that allegedly shows Michael Brown robbing a convenience store, according to a new report.

"All I did -- what I did was -- was release the videotape to you, because I had to," Jackson told reporters on Aug. 15 when asked why he released the robbery footage. "I’d been sitting on it, but I -- too many people put in a request for that thing, and I had to release that tape to you."

Writing for The Blot, Matthew Keys reports that the police department did not receive any specific requests for the videotape.

"A review of open records requests sent to the Ferguson Police Department found that no news organization, reporter or individual specifically sought the release of the surveillance tape before police distributed it on Aug. 15," Keys writes.

There was one reporter, Joel Currier with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, who asked for any and all evidence "leading up to" Brown’s death in a FOIA request. The request could have possibly included the tape, since the incident report on the robbery identifies Brown as a suspect in the crime.

Currier told The Huffington Post's Matt Sledge in a tweet that "I can't recall if I knew of robbery at the time of request. I made it broad in hopes of getting as much material as possible."

In another tweet, he added, "I think I may have been hearing rumors of a robbery but nothing confirmed."

Journalist Andrew Perez also said that he has tried to get the documents to show who sent FOIA requests for the recording.

"I requested all requests for the videotape too, and they produced a ton of docs but no requests for the tape," Perez tweeted.

Perez also tweeted that, when asked, Ferguson Police spokesperson Tim Zoll couldn't think of any specific requests for the tape.

Authorities have still not released the incident report for Brown's killing. The St. Louis County Police Department is in charge of deciding when that report will be released.

UPDATE: Ferguson City Attorney Stephanie Karr released a statement early Saturday morning. She notes that many requests for documents and information were not made in writing because "the City's website and email were down at several points during that week." The release does not say whether any of those requests were for the robbery video.

Within days of the tragic events on August 9, the City of Ferguson began receiving multiple requests for information and documents. While some of these requests were made in writing, many requests were made verbally due to the fact that the City's website and email were down at several points during that week. City personnel cataloged all requests and treated them in the same manner as it would any Sunshine Law request. (The “Sunshine Law” is Missouri’s equivalent of the federal Freedom of Information Act).

Several reporters, news organizations and others asked for documents specifically pertaining to Michael Brown. One such request was made by the St. Louis Post Dispatch. On August 12, 2014, the paper requested “all documentation concerning the events leading up to and including the shooting of Michael Brown" which shall include “incident, arrest and investigative reports, 911 audio, photos and video retained by the police department.” Another request, made on August 14, 2014, by Judicial Watch requested all records relating to Michael Brown and dated between August 1, 2013, and August 9, 2014.

The Sunshine Law dictates that Governmental entities must respond to both general requests and specific requests and release all documents that are responsive to the those requests, unless those documents are otherwise closed.

The Ferguson police department retained the incident and investigative report of the store robbery which occurred less than 10 minutes before the shooting. The reports, which included the surveillance video, concerned Michael Brown. Under the Sunshine Law, the police department had no reason to close these records and withhold them from the public.

By the date of August 15, the City having reached its statutory deadline to respond to the information requests, released the store robbery reports, including the surveillance video.

Ryan J. Reilly and Matt Sledge contributed reporting.

  

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66. "a full month and Darren Wilson is somewhere playing Madden"
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67. "9/8 boycott was a success btw nm"
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does it really matter?

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70. "more deets"
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71. "if it ain't on Reddit, Neogaf, etc."
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I don't believe it

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75. "mofo you got a Neogaf login?"
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that shit is like being in the Stonecutters

  

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77. "LOL @ You expecting white niggas on Neogaf and Reddit to care."
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i'm out.
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83. "if something important happens I expect it to show up somewhere"
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Other than okp
Neogaf isn't full of crazy I hate black posters

And reddit has ppl from all walks

So yea I'd expect them to care.

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72. "New Michael Brown shooting witnesses describe scene"
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-witnesses/

New Michael Brown shooting witnesses describe scene
From Randi Kaye, CNN
updated 8:28 AM EDT, Thu September 11, 2014
Source: CNN
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

NEW: CNN senior legal analyst says the new video is "good evidence"
A cell phone video shows witnesses reacting to the Michael Brown shooting
They describe the teen holding his hands in the air
Their accounts coincide with several other witness descriptions of the shooting

(CNN) -- Two men, shocked at what they saw, describe an unarmed teenager with his hands up in the air as he's gunned down by a police officer.

They were contractors doing construction work in Ferguson, Missouri, on the day Michael Brown was killed.

And the men, who asked not to be identified after CNN contacted them, said they were about 50 feet away from Officer Darren Wilson when he opened fire.

An exclusive cell phone video captures their reactions during the moments just after the shooting.
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"He had his f**n hands up," one of the men says in the video.

The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later.

"The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said.

That same witness described the gruesome scene, saying he saw Brown's "brains come out of his head," again stating, "his hands were up."

The video shows the man raising his arms in the air -- just as, he says, Brown was doing when he was shot.

The other contractor told CNN he saw Brown running away from a police car.

Brown "put his hands up," the construction worker said, and "the officer was chasing him."

The contractor says he saw Wilson fire a shot at Brown while his back was turned.

The men said they didn't see how the confrontation started.

Police arrest Michael Brown protesters near interstate

Other witnesses also said teen's arms were raised

The video, recorded several minutes after the shooting, gives new insight into the case, which has spurred a Justice Department investigation, national debate and protests over authorities' handling of the case.

The construction workers said they don't live in Ferguson and don't know the Brown family, but their account squares with accounts from several other witnesses of the unarmed African-American teen's shooting death on August 9.

Some witnesses say the teenager assaulted the white officer at the outset and tried to grab his gun; other witnesses say Wilson was the aggressor.

A private autopsy conducted for the Brown family showed that Brown had been shot at least six times, including twice in the head.

A grand jury is hearing the case and will determine whether Wilson will face any charges.

Protesters near Interstate 70 and outside the police headquarters on Wednesday, pushing for Gov. Jay Nixon to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Brown's death.


CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin says the video could play an important role in the case.

"You have practically in real time someone discussing what they saw, and that's just good evidence," he said on CNN's "AC360."

Sunny Hostin, a CNN legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, says it's important to note that several witnesses are telling the same story.

"They're saying that he was running from the police officer and that his hands were up," she said. "I don't know what other witness testimony at this point or account we have to hear. The bottom line is having your hands up is the universal sign for surrender."

Neil Bruntrager, general counsel for the St. Louis Police Officers Association, cautioned against rushing to judgment. Witness accounts are important, he said, but need to be evaluated with all the evidence.

"I'm not saying disregard them. I'm saying that we will judge their credibility by all of the evidence, not by one statement, and certainly not by a 15-second video clip," he said.

Complete coverage of the Michael Brown shooting and protests

CNN's Anne Clifford, Catherine E. Shoichet, Eliott C. McLaughlin, Rachel Clarke and Chris Lett contributed to this report.

  

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73. "Hopefully this puts a fucking sock in Hannity and O'Reilly"
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-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

  

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76. "wilson is on paid vacation with a nice fund raiser"
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Stash for his lawyers. That nigga is gonna get off my only question is are the people gonna let him off like they did Zimmerman?

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78. "Post-Dispatch: Darren Wilson testified for grand jury"
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http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/darren-wilson-testifies-in-front-of-grand-jury/article_74022ab8-756f-5e1d-81b3-3c577f1e9208.html


ST. LOUIS • Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson testified for almost four hours Tuesday in front of a St. Louis County grand jury investigating the Aug. 9 shooting of Michael Brown, a source with knowledge of the investigation said Wednesday.

Wilson was not obligated to testify, and has also spoken with St. Louis County investigators twice and federal investigators once, the source said. The source said that Wilson had been “cooperative.”

Ed Magee, a spokesman for St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch's office, said Wednesday that he would not comment on which witnesses have testified.

McCulloch has said that prosecutors would present all the evidence and witnesses to the 12 members of the jury and leave the decision of whether to charge Wilson up to them. Magee told the Post-Dispatch Monday that prosecutors will help navigate legal issues.

The grand jury hearing the evidence was empanelled before the shooting. Its term would have normally expired last week, but prosecutors sought an extension and Circuit Judge Carolyn Whittington granted it — extending the term to Jan. 7, the maximum allowed under the law. McCulloch originally said a decision could come by mid-October, but the extension allows more time if needed to present evidence.

McCulloch has promised to seek the public release of all evidence if there is no indictment.

Police said that Wilson, who is white, struggled with Brown, 18, who was black, and that during the episode Brown was killed by Wilson’s shots.

Brown's family and some witnesses have said Brown was surrendering when he died. Others who have spoken publicly say it was not clear what Brown was doing when he turned after fleeing from the encounter.

Christine Byers of the Post-Dispatch contributed to this report.

  

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79. "lol...my bad"
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80. "What kind of mess was that?"
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81. "hunh?"
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82. "You gotta answer the survey question to see the full story"
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Put the tin foil hat away lol

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84. "don't know how factual this is"
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Anyone here from st Louis?

https://storify.com/laurahib/shaun-king

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85. "somehow his memorial burned down yesterday"
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like completely....to a crisp even.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByQM9H2CQAAPuBV.jpg:large

And then it was rebuilt. Bigger & better.

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86. "Mayhem again tonight. Police attacked protestors. Nothing's changed smh"
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87. "USA Today: Ferguson police chief issues apology to Brown family"
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/25/michael-brown-case/16199575/

ST. LOUIS — As the parents of Michael Brown appeared Thursday in the nation's capital to call on the Justice Department to take over the case of their 18-year-old son whom police shot in August, the chief in the St. Louis suburb where he was killed apologized to the Brown family.

Police Chief Thomas Jackson in Ferguson, Mo., issued a video apology Thursday to Brown's parents and peaceful protesters, according to a St. Louis public-relations firm's video.

"I'm truly sorry for the loss of your son. I'm also sorry that it took so long to remove Michael from the street," said Jackson, dressed casually in a red polo shirt. "You have every right to be angry and upset. The time that it took involved the completion of the work of the investigators to preserve physical evidence and determine the facts, but 4½ hours was simply too long."

Ferguson was the site of sometimes violent protests and looting in the days after Darren Wilson, a white Ferguson police officer, shot Brown, who was black and unarmed, on Aug. 9. Witnesses said that Brown had his hands raised above his head before he was shot dead.

  

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88. "Police Plan for Possible Riots if Brown Cop Not Charged"
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tuh tuh TUH

http://www.newsweek.com/missouri-police-plan-possible-riots-if-brown-cop-not-charged-275967


Missouri Police Plan for Possible Riots if Brown Cop Not Charged
By Reuters
Filed: 10/7/14 at 3:00 PM


FERGUSON MISSOURI (Reuters) - Missouri authorities are drawing up contingency plans and seeking intelligence from U.S. police departments on out-of-state agitators, fearing that fresh riots could erupt if a grand jury does not indict a white officer for killing a black teen.

The plans are being thrashed out in meetings being held two to three times a week, according to people who have attended them. The FBI said it was also involved in the discussions.

Details of the meetings and intelligence sharing by Missouri police agencies and their counterparts in other parts of the country have not been reported before.

Newsweek Magazine is Back In Print

The grand jury is expected to decide next month whether to bring criminal charges against police officer Darren Wilson, who shot dead Michael Brown, 18, on Aug. 9 in Ferguson, Missouri.

In differing accounts, police have said Brown struggled with Wilson before the fatal shots were fired. But some witnesses say Brown held up his hands and was surrendering when he was shot multiple times in the head and chest.

If charges are not brought against Wilson, police fear an outbreak of violence not just in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson, but across the greater metropolitan area and even in other U.S. cities, according to St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar and others involved in the planning meetings.

James Knowles, the Ferguson mayor who has been attending the meetings, told Reuters the fear is that if violence is triggered by the grand jury decision, "the unrest is going to be far beyond the city of Ferguson."

Brown's killing sparked days of protests in Ferguson in August and looting that caused millions of dollars of property damage. Police were sharply criticized for what was seen as a heavy handed response to the protests, firing tear gas and arresting hundreds of people.

Protestors and civil rights groups say Brown's death is part of a national epidemic in which a disproportionately high number of unarmed black men are fatally shot by white police officers, an allegation police deny.

Missouri law enforcement officials have been in contact with police chiefs in Los Angeles, New York, Florida and Cincinnati, Ohio as they prepare for the grand jury decision, Belmar said.

Of the 227 people arrested between Aug. 10 and Sept. 9 in connection with protests over Brown's death, 36 were from outside Missouri, including seven from New York, 12 from Illinois and five from California, according to arrest records provided by the St. Louis county police.

"We know outside groups visited us in August. We are expecting that different people will come in from outside the St. Louis area," if the grand jury decides not to indict Wilson, Belmar said.

One focus of the meetings has been on how to respond in the event of riots, the police chief said. Police faced a public backlash when they initially deployed armored carriers and carried military-style assault rifles after Brown's shooting.

Representatives of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, St. Louis County Police, St. Louis city police and Ferguson police have been attending the meetings, Belmar said. The top FBI official in St Louis, Agent William Woods, attended a strategy meeting last week, said St Louis FBI spokeswoman Rebecca Wu.

Plans have not been finalized. It was announced last week that the St. Louis County Police will take the lead from the tiny Ferguson force in patrolling the city's streets.

SIMMERING ANGER

The contingency planning comes as black and white residents of Ferguson, a city fraught with racial tensions and simmering anger after Brown's death, brace for the grand jury decision.

The nine white and three black jurors have heard evidence from dozens of witnesses, including Wilson, who has been under police protection at an undisclosed location since the shooting, said Bob McCulloch, the chief St. Louis county prosecutor overseeing the grand jury proceedings.

Police and elected officials are meeting regularly with multi-racial citizen groups in a bid to improve community relations, tackle concerns about police discrimination, and avoid the turmoil that followed Brown's shooting. Civil unrest is still the "worst case scenario", Knowles said.

Yet on the ground, many African Americans in Ferguson have little faith in the grand jury process and expect Wilson will not be charged. It is rare for a U.S. police officer to face criminal charges after shooting a citizen in the line of duty.

"I do believe if Darren Wilson is not indicted you will see a lot of carnage ... There is a lot of explosive energy," said Tef Poe, one of the protest leaders, sitting in a makeshift office close to where Brown was shot. On a wall sits an array of "to do" notes, top of which reads: "Find Darren Wilson".

Poe, a rapper, was born and raised in St. Louis. His real name is Kareem Jackson.

Protesters continue to demonstrate outside Ferguson police station each night, and are still frequently arrested. They say they are victims of intimidation and harassment by officers.

The St. Louis County police said until they took charge of security on Friday, arrests were the responsibility of Ferguson police and referred calls the Ferguson police department. Ferguson police did not respond to requests for comment.

  

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89. "Ferguson Weekend of Resistance October 10th-13th"
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http://jessehimself.tumblr.com/post/99385264578/justice4mikebrown-justice4mikebrown

  

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90. "So this weekend was/is Ferguson October"
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“@KoranAddo: Young Nigel waits for the rest of the #FergusonOctober marchers to catch up. http://twitter.com/KoranAddo/status/520978665900109824/photo/1

A lot of people went to the city to protest. That pic is from one of the marches. Police have been using tear gas to disperse crowds, even used them on a sit-in yesterday. This was planned pre Vonderrit Myers btw.

Seems real quiet but just know there are people still working in St Louis.

  

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91. "Darren Wilson Recounts a Struggle with Michael Brown (NYT swipe)"
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/ferguson-case-officer-is-said-to-cite-struggle.html

  

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92. "Eric Holder: Whatever happened to the DOJ autopsy?"
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93. "The Federal"
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investigation is not finished.

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94. "they really ain't gonna indict this motherfucker"
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http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/article_d2cf8b20-c517-592b-96ba-77d8a5f46fef.html#.VEceGvClIaY.twitter

Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him
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FERGUSON • Police Officer Darren Wilson told investigators that in a struggle for his pistol inside a police SUV, Michael Brown pressed the barrel of Wilson’s gun against the officer’s hip, according to a source with knowledge of his statements.

Wilson tried to prevent Brown from reaching the trigger, the source said, and when he thought he had control he fired. But Brown’s hand was blocking the mechanism.

When Wilson got two shots off, Brown was hit in the hand and ran. Wilson fired again when Brown turned back and charged at him, Wilson told investigators.

The white officer’s shooting of the unarmed black 18-year-old triggered protests, riots and a national debate over race and policing.

In the most detailed account of Wilson’s version of the Aug. 9 event to be made public, the source described how the encounter started, Brown’s refusal to stop charging at Wilson and the injuries suffered by both men.

Wilson’s version is only one of many told by various witnesses. Two witnesses say Wilson grabbed Brown through the window and tried to pull him into the SUV. Some say that after Brown broke free, he either did not move back toward Wilson, or was stumbling or walking when he was shot.

Investigators have repeatedly declined to comment on details of the investigation.

Told of Wilson’s version of events, Brown family lawyer Anthony Gray scoffed, calling it “absurd from beginning to end” and a “concocted version of events that nobody supports,” referring to other public witness statements.

Gray said the version of Dorian Johnson, who was with Brown, was more plausible. He said that the only important part of the story was the final few shots fired and that Wilson had to be justified in taking every shot.

“This story just doesn’t even make good nonsense.”

WILSON’S STORY

After he finished with a call for a sick baby, Wilson said, he spotted Brown and his friend, Dorian Johnson, walking down the middle of Canfield Drive, with traffic passing on both sides.

Wilson asked or ordered the men to move to the sidewalk, said the source, who did not want to be identified because a St. Louis County grand jury and the Department of Justice are still investigating.

Johnson pointed out the pair’s destination, over and behind Wilson’s marked police Chevrolet Tahoe SUV, and kept walking.

Brown walked by holding cigarillos in his hand, and cursed Wilson, the source said.

Wilson told investigators that after Brown passed by, Wilson realized that Johnson’s clothing matched a recent radio alert about a suspect in a robbery at a nearby market where cigarillos had been taken. Wilson radioed for assistance and backed up his SUV to Brown and Johnson.

The source said Wilson told investigators he had placed the SUV in park. When Wilson tried to get out of the SUV, Brown slammed its door shut and punched Wilson in the left side of the face through the open window, the source said.

Wilson, trapped in the front seat, couldn’t use his pepper spray in the confined space because it would incapacitate him as well. His baton was at the back of his utility belt, where he was essentially sitting on it. He did not have a Taser. So he drew his gun.

Brown grabbed the pistol using his right hand, with his elbow against Wilson. Wilson described Brown as incredibly strong, the source said.

During the struggle, Brown handed the cigarillos to Johnson, then swung his left hand and hit Wilson on the right side of the face. Wilson said he almost lost consciousness, the source said. Brown then began to use his left hand in the struggle for the gun, and turned the pistol until the barrel was against Wilson’s hip.

Wilson positioned his finger to try to prevent Brown from reaching the trigger. When Wilson pulled himself back toward the passenger side of the SUV, Brown’s grip loosened enough for Wilson to try to pull the trigger, the source said.

But the gun didn’t fire. Wilson said he believed that Brown’s hand may have been on the hammer, preventing it from moving, the source said.

The second time Wilson pulled the trigger, the gun did fire. Wilson told investigators he thought the bullet had struck Brown in the hand, the source said. Broken window glass was everywhere, and blood was on the door, the gun and Wilson’s hands. At the time, Wilson said, he wasn’t sure whose blood it was.

The struggle continued, and Wilson attempted to pull the trigger twice more. The source said Wilson thought Brown’s hand may have interfered again. Wilson was able to fire a second shot, and Brown ran.

Wilson used his radio to report that shots had been fired and ask for additional cars, but during the struggle, his radio had been switched from the Ferguson channel, the source said.

Wilson said he had gotten out of the SUV and chased Brown.

The source said Wilson did not recall yelling or saying anything then, but Brown had stopped and turned.

Wilson said Brown had not had his hands up; his left hand was slightly out, fingers pointing down. His right hand was grasping his shirt. Then, Wilson told investigators, Brown began running toward him.

Wilson said he had yelled for Brown to stop, then fired, the source said. Brown flinched as if he was hit, and Wilson said he had stopped shooting. Brown continued running toward him, and Wilson said he had fired several more shots. The source said that Wilson had recalled that Brown’s head was down when the last shot hit him there.

When Brown fell to the ground, his forward momentum caused his feet to fly up, Wilson said.

Wilson then made another radio call, for an ambulance.

Later, Wilson drove himself to the police station and was taken to the hospital by other officers. Wilson said he had bruises on the left and right sides of his face and scratches on his neck, the source said. He had no broken bones.

THE AUTOPSY NARRATIVE

Brown’s autopsy documents include a summary from St. Louis County Detective Patrick J. Hokamp’s preliminary investigation. His account was similar to Wilson’s.

The autopsy report, obtained by the Post-Dispatch, also says that Brown had THC, the mind-altering ingredient of marijuana, in his blood and urine. The report says a “leafy green substance” was submitted as evidence, and a person with knowledge of the investigation said the substance was marijuana. That source also said that Brown’s blood and DNA had been found inside the SUV and on Wilson’s gun.

WITNESSES DISAGREE

Most of the witnesses who have spoken publicly saw only a portion of the incident.

Johnson, 22, has said that Wilson used a profanity when he told them to get on the sidewalk, and nearly sideswiped them as he backed up. Wilson opened the door but it bounced off the men, Johnson has said, and Wilson then grabbed Brown by the throat and, later, grabbed him by the arm and tried to pull him into the car. Johnson said that Wilson’s gun had been out and that he had shot Brown once before Brown, who was bleeding, ran away.

Johnson said that Wilson had chased Brown and shot him once before Brown turned around. Johnson said that Wilson had fatally shot Brown as Brown was getting to the ground with his hands in the air.

Several other witnesses have said that Wilson fired at Brown’s fleeing form, perhaps causing Brown to turn when he was some distance from the SUV.

From there, the accounts differ. Their versions have included that Brown stood still, or walked, staggered, stumbled or fell toward Wilson. Some witnesses said Brown’s hands were up; others said they were not. One witness said Wilson was backing away as he fired at Brown.

None quoted in media accounts has said that Brown charged Wilson.

  

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and saddest part of the whole thing.

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96. "Well the city/media dropped the, "He had Marijuana in his System" BOMB! "
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97. "they released that a while ago, catch up"
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99. "Brown shot in hand at close range. Evidence of significant altercation (..."
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/22/ferguson-michael-brown-autopsy-report/17708789/

Michael Brown, the unarmed black teen who was killed by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo., in August, was shot in the hand at close range and had marijuana in his system, an autopsy report by the St. Louis County Medical Examiner's Office concludes.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch published the report on its website. Suzanne McCune, administrator for the county medical examiner, acknowledged that the report was accurate, but said that the office did not release it to the newspaper.

The county report in some ways differs from the autopsy conducted at the request of Brown's family, which concluded the shots were fired from at least a foot away and as far as 30 feet away.

The county reports says a preliminary investigation indicates Brown became "belligerent" with officer Darren Wilson after Wilson asked him to stop walking in the street. The report says Wilson attempted to get out of his patrol car and that Brown, 18, pushed the door shut "and began to struggle with Officer Wilson."

The report says the gun went off during the struggle and that Brown fled. Wilson gave chase, the report said, and opened fire when Brown turned and started running back toward the officer.

Brown's family says the officer attempted to pull Brown into the patrol car and that the teen was killed when, after fleeing, he turned around and raised his hands to surrender.

Michael Graham, who is medical examiner for the city of St. Louis and is not part of the official investigation, reviewed the autopsy report and said it "does support that there was a significant altercation at the car."

The county autopsy report indicates a shot traveled from the tip of Brown's right thumb toward his wrist. The report says there is no stipple — powder burns around a wound that indicate a shot fired at relatively short range. But Graham told the newspaper that stipple does not always appear "when it's really close, such as within an inch or so."

The county report does indicate that the thumb wound contained "foreign particulate matter ... consistent with products that are discharged from the barrel of a firearm."

Judy Melinek, a forensic pathologist in San Francisco, told the newspaper the autopsy indicates Brown was "reaching for the gun, if he has gunpowder particulate material in the wound." She added, "If he has his hand near the gun when it goes off, he's going for the officer's gun."

Pathologist Michael Baden, who conducted the autopsy requested by the family, concluded that bullet wounds to Brown's arms could have been sustained by putting his hands up or crossing his arms.

Last week, The New York Times reported that Wilson told investigators that he was pinned in his vehicle and in fear for his life as he struggled for control of the gun. The Times, citing government officials briefed on the federal civil rights investigation, said Wilson told the authorities that Brown reached for the gun, that it was fired twice in the car, and that the first bullet struck Brown in the arm while the second bullet missed.

Wilson told the authorities that Brown punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck, the Times said.

That description of events conflicts with the description offered by Dorian Johnson, who was with Brown when the shooting took place. Johnson said Wilson was the aggressor, grabbing Brown by the neck, choking him and then grabbing Brown's arm to pull him into the car.

Johnson said Wilson pulled out his gun and shot Brown. Johnson said the men then fled but stopped when ordered to do so, and that Brown was shot when he turned around to surrender.

The shooting set off weeks of unrest in the predominantly black community outside St. Louis. A grand jury is hearing the case and will decide whether to charge Wilson with Brown's death.

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100. "Grand Juror Suing Prosecutor"
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^^^ For anybody that thinks protests have stopped


http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/01/ferguson-grand-juror-suing-prosecutor/

A massive 58-point lawsuit has just been filed by a juror in Darren Wilson case against St. Louis prosecutor Bob McCulloch. The suit alleges that the prosecutor deliberately “botched” the case against Officer Darren Wilson and chose instead to put Mike Brown – the officer’s victim – on trial.

The suit is an effort for the juror to speak freely and openly about what happened during the Darren Wilson grand jury deliberations. If you thought that the decision not to indict Officer Wilson was fair, this grand jury member says you should think again: there is a lot that you haven’t been told about what went on, and they want to be able to legally tell you about it.

The juror is suing St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch for that legal right, adding that McCulloch mischaracterized the proceedings through and through and presented a “muddled” case, according to St. Louis Public Radio.

In a lawsuit (pdf) that was filed Monday morning, the unnamed juror, who was described as “Grand Juror Doe”, alleged that McCulloch’s statements made to the press after the announcement of the refusal to indict, were completely inaccurate and need to be addressed. But since the law currently prohibits the juror from speaking about what went on in the deliberation process and behind closed doors, that is not something they can do as of yet.

The lawsuit states that in the juror’s “view, the current information available about the grand jurors’ views is not entirely accurate — especially the implication that all grand jurors believed that there was no support for any charges. Moreover, the public characterization of the grand jurors’ view of witnesses and evidence does not accord with ’s own.”

The juror notes a double standard that McCulloch has been permitted to speak at length about the grand jury’s deliberations – even making false claims about the jurors, what they said, thought and decided – even though he was not present and these alleged statements he is making claims about were not recorded by a court reporter.

“Plaintiff’s impression that evidence was presented differently than in other cases, with the insinuation that Brown, not Wilson, was the wrongdoer,” the suit reads.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Missouri has officially filed the suit on the juror’s behalf, arguing that McCulloch’s presentation of the case means that normal rules prohibiting jurors to maintain secrecy should not apply here.

“From ’s perspective, although the release of a large number of records provides an appearance of transparency, with heavy redactions and the absence of context, those records do not fully portray the proceedings before the grand jury,” the lawsuit continues.

The ACLU says that they are requesting a judge to grant an injunction which will stop anyone from enforcing, or threatening to enforce, the relevant laws that would require jurors to remain silent about this particular grand jury deliberation.

(Article by Moreh B.D.K.; image by Counter Current News)

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101. "I hope this doesn't just blow away in the wind"
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I'm sure it will get buried though. Prosecutors are damn near bulletproof

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102. "I'm not sure this has any legs..."
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I'd imagine that most judges will weigh this jurors right to speak out against the gag order vs. keeping public peace.

Also, would a juror even have standing to sue?

  

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103. "When doing nothing is not an option"
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I think the hope is that McCulloch actually set the precedent

with his press conference and subsequent interviews, continually

without rebuttal

seriously though

WTF is the DOJ doing?

for there to be no criminal charges anywhere in this whole incident

when it was mishandled at literally every step of the process

and we're closing in on 6 months out

what are the other options at this point?

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104. "42 U.S. Code § 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights"
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this is the only real option left. there will not be any criminal charge b/c it's up to the STL County prosecutor to bring one (jeopardy has not attached) - and that office clearly won't.

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Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

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105. "Bar Complaint Filed Against McCulloch"
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Grand Jurors see it

other Lawyers see it

...and yet, nothing...

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/05/bar-complaint-filed-against-mcculloch/?utm_content=buffer49da4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

ST. LOUIS (KMOX) – A bar complaint against St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch and Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys Kathi Alizadeh and Sheila Whirley has been filed regarding the handling of the Ferguson grand jury.
Attorney and former judge James R. Dowd and attorney Robert Ramsey reviewed the grand jury transcript – including evidence, witness interviews and testimony – before a group of seven citizens and attorneys – led by Christi Griffin, founder of the Ethics Project – filed an 11-page complaint with the Office of the Chief Disciplinary Counsel in Jefferson City, Missouri.
Griffin says the complaint focuses on more than 15 Rules of Professional Conduct the group believes were violated, including the following:
- Presenting witnesses to the grand jury – including Darren Wilson – who McCulloch, Alizadeh and Whirley knew or should have known would make false statements, is not exhaustive.
Under Missouri Supreme Court Rule, the Office of the Chief Disciplinary Counsel has the duty to investigate allegations of misconduct by lawyers and for prosecuting cases where the misconduct poses a threat to the public or to the integrity of the legal profession.
It is the position of the complainants that McCulloch, Alizadeh and Whirley’s conduct have done both.
- Presenting the grand jury with a legal instruction ruled unconstitutional for decades.
- Mislabeling and misplacing evidence related to key witness Dorian Johnson.
- Failing to provide specific charges to the jury after “dumping” on them thousands of pages of interviews and evidence the complainants cite as going above gross negligence.
Griffin has said initial reports from the Ferguson police chief that Darren Wilson did not know Michael Brown was suspected in an earlier convenience store robbery were changed in testimony before the grand jury, and she believes that represents perjury.
“He is the one that is allowing that perjured testimony to be presented to the grand jury, and that is a direct violation of the Code of Professional Ethics,” she said.
Monday’s complaint was faxed, and Griffin says a copy will be delivered to the office Wednesday.

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106. "here's the problem though"
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if McCulloch had used perjured testimony to SECURE an indictment against a criminal defendant there's a good chance that criminal defendant would have standing to challenge the sufficiency of the indictment.

generally the criminal law works to protect the criminal defendant's right to due process and a fair trial. it doesn't work to protect the state's right to due process or a fair trial.

in this case no one has standing to contest the prosecution's failure to secure an indictment against Darren Wilson. at least, no one has standing to contest the failure where a finding in favor of complainant will result in the prosecutor being forced to submit the Wilson case to another GJ.

maybe the state will get McCulloch for prosecutorial misconduct - but that usually happens when a prosecutor engages in shenanigans that result in a criminal charge being filed and possibly in a criminal conviction. that's not the case here so i don't expect McCulloch to go down for misconduct. but it could happen.

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107. "prosecutor mccollough found lying abt past officer-shooting case"
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2902587/Now-Ferguson-prosecutor-accused-lying-evidence-grand-jury-cleared-police-killing-two-unarmed-black-men.html

According to Mr Rothert who has referenced the case in the lawsuit filed on Monday, the extent to which history is repeating itself, ‘highlights the fact that we can’t take McCulloch’s word about what the grand jurors thought and what the evidence was,’ in either case.

It was broad daylight when Earl Murray drove his car into the parking lot of Jack in the Box and realized, too late, that he was the target of an undercover sting. A dozen cops awaited his arrival.
Panicking he threw his car into reverse and backed into the police SUV behind him.
Officers Robert Piekutowski and Keith Kierzkowski approached the front of the car and began firing volley after volley. They shot Murray and Beasley 21 times.
The officers maintained that they fired because Murray started driving towards them and they believed he would mow them down. They used deadly force, they claimed, because they feared for their lives.
The supervising officer at the time was Thomas Jackson, then a Lieutenant, now St Louis County Chief of Police. The Prosecutor was Bob McCulloch.
Both presented the officers’ version as fact in the face of outrage and anger from the black community.
Police Chief Jackson told reporters, ‘I am convinced that the officers were in fear of their lives and that they were in immediate danger.’
‘It was obvious to everyone,’ he stated, ‘that he {Murray} was going to go right through them…they thought, “this is it.”’
He backed his men’s then, just as he backed Darren Wilson when the Ferguson claimed that, after two punches during a car-side tussle with Brown, he feared that a third blow from the teen would kill him.
Meanwhile, Mr McCulloch made a public statement asserting that ‘every witness who has anything to say or to offer will be presented to the grand jury.
‘It’s important that the integrity of this office and public confidence in the judicial system be maintained.’

In an echo of his utterances regarding the Darren Wilson grand jury he acknowledged, ‘There is widespread concern in the whole community about this case, and no decision will be reached until every shred of evidence is presented.’
Yet, while publicly preaching impartiality, Mr McCulloch consistently referred to both Murray and Beasley as ‘suspects’ not victims, though Beasley was never accused of any wrongdoing. Later he stated that both men were ‘bums.’
In what was slammed as a concerted effort on the prosecutor’s part to denigrate the men, a list of all Murray and Beasley’s interactions with law enforcement, including those that led to no charges, was read out to the grand jury before members began their final deliberations.

Fourteen years later, Chief Jackson released CCTV footage showing Michael Brown stealing a box of cigarillos moments before Wilson gunned him down.
At 6ft 4 and weighing 292lbs the teenager was shown making full use of his bulk to intimidate the storekeeper when challenged.
Amid allegations of an attempt to smear the teenager, Officer Jackson claimed that he had released the footage on the request of the media. This was later revealed to be untrue.

In August 2000 – with the officers still not publicly named - the grand jury declined to indict either of the Jack in the Box shooters. McCulloch told the public that all witnesses agreed with the officers’ account of what happened.

But a Federal Investigation the following year showed that Murray’s car had never been taken out of reverse. Not only that, it was impossible for his car to have moved forward as his rear bumper was locked on the front bumper of the SUV into which he had reversed. Still, no charges were brought.
Thirteen years later an investigation by St Louis Post-Dispatch revealed that only three of the 13 officers called as grand jury witnesses backed up the officers’ account that the car had moved forward.

Immediately after the announcement last November that the Ferguson grand jury had found ‘no true bill’ on each of the five possible indictments in Darren Wilson’s shooting of Michael Brown, Mr McCulloch made a statement. The jurors he claimed, just as he had claimed 15 years earlier, had been brought to their decision by overwhelming evidence


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108. "No Charges: U.S. Not Expected to Fault Officer in Ferguson Case"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5VZjT0JE70

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/us/justice-department-ferguson-civil-rights-darren-wilson.html?_r=1

WASHINGTON — Justice Department lawyers will recommend that no civil rights charges be brought against the police officer who fatally shot an unarmed teenager in Ferguson, Mo., after an F.B.I. investigation found no evidence to support charges, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and his civil rights chief, Vanita Gupta, will have the final say on whether the Justice Department will close the case against the officer, Darren Wilson. But it would be unusual for them to overrule the prosecutors on the case, who are still working on a legal memo explaining their recommendation.

A decision by the Justice Department would bring an end to the politically charged investigation of Mr. Wilson in the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown. The Missouri authorities concluded their investigation into Mr. Brown’s death in November and also recommended against charges.

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Wellspring United Methodist Church in Ferguson, Mo., played host Sunday to members of the Congressional Black Caucus.In Ferguson, Push for Criminal Justice Reform Draws Comparisons to ’60s Fight for Civil RightsJAN. 18, 2015
But a broader Justice Department civil rights investigation into allegations of discriminatory traffic stops and excessive force by the Ferguson Police Department remains open. That investigation could lead to significant changes at the department, which is overwhelmingly white despite serving a city that is mostly black.

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Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. will make a final decision with his civil rights chief, Vanita Gupta, in the officer’s case. Credit David Goldman/Associated Press
Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for Mr. Brown’s family, said he did not want to comment on the investigation until the Justice Department made an official announcement.

“We’ve heard speculation on cases before that didn’t turn out to be true,” Mr. Crump said. “It’s too much to put the family through to respond to every rumor.”

Mr. Wilson’s lawyer did not return calls for comment.

Mr. Brown’s death touched off protests and violent clashes between demonstrators and heavily armed police in Ferguson. The episode, along with the death of Eric Garner — an unarmed black man who died after a chokehold by a New York police officer in July — set off a nationwide discussion about policing, race and the use of deadly force.

President Obama, Mr. Holder and Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York, speaking about the issue in personal terms, said they understood the concern that minority neighborhoods had with the police. Those comments prompted rebukes from some law enforcement groups.

Soon after the shooting, witnesses told reporters that Mr. Brown had his hands up in a gesture of surrender when he was shot and killed by Mr. Wilson on a city street.

The F.B.I. investigation, however, painted a murkier picture. Mr. Wilson told investigators that Mr. Brown had tussled with him through the window of his police car and tried to grab his gun, an account supported by bruises and DNA evidence. Two shots were fired during that struggle.

What happened next, as the confrontation moved into the street, is in dispute. While some witnesses were adamant that Mr. Brown had his hands up, some recanted their stories. Mr. Wilson testified that Mr. Brown had charged at him, and other witnesses backed up his account.

“I’m backpedaling pretty good because I know if he reaches me, he’ll kill me,” Mr. Wilson told a state grand jury, in testimony that investigators said was consistent with what he told the F.B.I. “And he had started to lean forward as he got that close, like he was going to just tackle me, just go right through me.”

Mr. Holder said that the Justice Department’s investigation into Mr. Brown’s death would be independent from the one conducted by the local authorities. While the F.B.I. and local officials conducted some interviews together and shared evidence, the analysis and decision-making were separate. Mr. Holder resisted calls from local officials to announce his conclusion alongside the county prosecutor last year, in part because he did not want it to appear as if they had reached their decisions together.

Federal investigators interviewed more than 200 people and analyzed cellphone audio and video, the law enforcement officials said. Officer Wilson’s gun, clothing and other evidence were analyzed at the F.B.I.’s laboratory in Quantico, Va. Though the local authorities and Mr. Brown’s family conducted autopsies, Mr. Holder ordered a separate autopsy, which was conducted by pathologists from the Armed Forces Medical Examiner’s office at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, the officials said.

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The federal investigation did not uncover any facts that differed significantly from the evidence made public by the authorities in Missouri late last year, the law enforcement officials said. To bring federal civil rights charges, the Justice Department would have needed to prove that Officer Wilson had intended to violate Mr. Brown’s rights when he opened fire, and that he had done so willfully — meaning he knew that it was wrong to fire but did so anyway.

The Justice Department plans to release a report explaining its decision, though it is not clear when. Dena Iverson, a department spokeswoman, declined to comment on the case Wednesday.

The Ferguson investigation drew Mr. Holder into the spotlight on the issue of race, one he cares about deeply. He traveled to Ferguson, spoke of his experiences as a victim of racial profiling and emerged as a peacemaker during the tense days after the shooting, when the police used tear gas on demonstrators and the National Guard was summoned.

The shooting also inflamed longstanding tensions between Ferguson’s black residents and the police. Residents told investigators that the police used traffic citations in minority neighborhoods as a way to raise money for the city.

“These anecdotal accounts underscored the history of mistrust of law enforcement in Ferguson,” Mr. Holder said in September after returning from Ferguson, a suburb about 10 miles northwest of St. Louis.

It is not clear when the broader civil rights inquiry of the police department, known as a pattern or practice investigation, will be completed. Under Mr. Holder, prosecutors have opened more than 20 such investigations nationwide. The Justice Department recently called for sweeping changes to the Cleveland Police Department and negotiated an independent monitor to oversee the department in Albuquerque.

Mr. Wilson resigned from the department in November, citing threats of violence against him and other officers. “It is my hope that my resignation will allow the community to heal,” he said.

Mayor James Knowles III of Ferguson did not respond Wednesday afternoon to a voice mail message and email seeking comment about the broader federal investigation of his city’s police department. Jeff Small, a Ferguson spokesman, said city officials did not have any new information to share about either federal inquiry and would not comment on them.

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