This situation has been heavy on my mind for the last week or so. I feel like I need to be there. Please keep me in your prayers. I'll try to post about what's going on.

Peace

Folks might need simple law advice/leaflets out there just as much as they need an extra set of hands in the air


But yea, watch out for gestapos bootlickers and agent provocateurs



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>Folks might need simple law advice/leaflets out there just as
>much as they need an extra set of hands in the air
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>But yea, watch out for gestapos bootlickers and agent
>provocateurs
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>And thanks.

Yes, I plan to do anything I can to help. I'm traveling with a diverse group. Lawyers, academics, journalists, activists.

Props for standing up, but be careful out there.

i still blame hip-hop.

What u gon be doin?
You got famlay down there?
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Tread lightly.

Having a counter narrative to all the bs is paramount right now.

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in fact, damn that as im sure you gonna need to save battery power...please keep us abreast of whats going on, what they might need and the best way to get it there


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Be safe. And try to document as much as you can. I know we are really only getting a bit of the story and it's folks like you who will give us the real.

Thanks, and if there is any way we can help, let us know.

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wait to hear your assessment of what's the overall sentiment of the people - young and old

grassrootsphilosopher

anarchists and all the other outsiders rolling through her for photo ops and publicity.

If you want to come pick up a broom and trash bag and clean up or delivery food to the elderly during the DAYTIME that's fine but don't have your ass out there after dark. That shit is not a game, its a legit war zone. Keke Palmer just about got her young ass violated out here thinking this shit is a joke.

We don't need any more "protesters" out here. Like I said before we're using 1960's tactics with a 2014 enemy, we're playing checkers while they're playing chess. This fight isn't going to be won on a street corner, its going to be won in the court room and in the voting booths.

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you are an average citizen.
you want to do something to create the political will
to make ppl in power give a damn about police brutality.

what--exactly-- should you do?

i mean shit, if we are assuming this person in the OP
is well intentioned, it would be worth it to make the trip out there.
if for no other reason than to maybe meet ppl that are about
getting off their ass and into the fight.


and like it or not, having ppl in the streets
keeps the shit in the news so that other ppl
that are doing the tactics you want to see done have an easier go of things.


do you think that power ppl WANTED to negotiate with MLK?
do you think they were more likely to sit down with him
knowing that an armed, decided non-non violent panther party
was waiting in the wings?


in other words,
why are you discouraging ppl from trying to make moves?


i mean...




damn.

>you are an average citizen.
>you want to do something to create the political will
>to make ppl in power give a damn about police brutality.
>
>what--exactly-- should you do?

vote, sign up others to vote, drive them to the polls if need be to get the right people in power that can affect positive change


>i mean shit, if we are assuming this person in the OP
>is well intentioned, it would be worth it to make the trip out
>there.
>if for no other reason than to maybe meet ppl that are about
>getting off their ass and into the fight.

what fight? with the Missouri national guard?

>and like it or not, having ppl in the streets
>keeps the shit in the news so that other ppl
>that are doing the tactics you want to see done have an easier
>go of things.

Most of the legit organizations in the area have scaled back a their organized protesting activities and have asked people to stay out of the area after dark.


>do you think that power ppl WANTED to negotiate with MLK?
>do you think they were more likely to sit down with him
>knowing that an armed, decided non-non violent panther party
>was waiting in the wings?

So who exactly is MLK in this situation? and what exactly are they going to "negotiate"?

>in other words,
>why are you discouraging ppl from trying to make moves?

I'm discouraging people from going into an unsafe environment and providing cover for those out there with more nefarious intentions that are hurting the case more than helping.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

and it's funny how you are asking who the MLK of our time is.
there is a decent chance we don't know them yet.

they may be organizing a protest right now.
and discouraging ppl from going to it... that's not helping.
discouraging ppl from writing about it... that's not helping.

you know what else doesn't help?

telling people that voting and the judicial system is the way to
change it all for the better. because as you know, having
the "right people" in office doesn't do shit
unless their constituents are organized enough to hold them accountable
with large numbers of ppl after the election is over.


we don't have that level of organization yet.
we don't have the leaders that are capable of doing that yet.

but the shit going on right now could be the
training ground where leaders learn how to motivate, turn out, and organize
large numbers of ppl.



you discouraging ppl from going to their events is almost certainly not helping.



in other words, give the next generation a chance to
figure this shit out.

let them use hashtags. let them organize vigils.
let them try.



i mean shit... our generation ain't exactly setting the world on fire.
our generation got us here.



let's not discourage ppl that are actually getting off their ass
to try to figure out how to make it do what it do.

let's not do that, player.

what you armchair revolutionaries have to say then.

At this point "protesting" isn't going to do any thing for the Michael Brown case. We will just have to let legal system take its course.

What people CAN do is try to effect change in their OWN communities as far as getting the right elected officials in place and holding them accountable AND educating our youth to avoid paths that make them targets as well making each other targets.

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>At this point "protesting" isn't going to do any thing for the
>Michael Brown case. We will just have to let legal system take
>its course.
>
>What people CAN do is try to effect change in their OWN
>communities as far as getting the right elected officials in
>place and holding them accountable AND educating our youth to
>avoid paths that make them targets as well making each other
>targets.


lets say, hypothetically, that one wanted to hold elected officials accountable.
how would one do that.

maybe you could assemble a group of ppl to research a problem
they all cared about, and then come up with a solution
that an elected official had the power to enact.

how do you make the elected official do it?

maybe you call a large public meeting, invite the official,
and then bring out about a thousand or so people and
make the elected official give you a yes or no answer.

yeah, that could work.
but how do you get 1000 people to show up at one place?

maybe you start in churches, and get the people from there.
maybe you get pastors to start preaching about it
and then you recruit ppl from the churches to bring their friends
to this event where you'll be holding the kings and nobels of our time accountable.



but still, it's hard to get 1000 ppl in one place at one time.
you might not get 1000 ppl out your first time.
maybe you only get 250.

maybe you learn organizing ppl on a local level to do it the way
you suggested is hard work. something that takes experience.

maybe, you'd come to realize you can't do this alone.

You need more ppl organizing. More ppl that have
the ability to get ppl involved.






maybe, you're happy that ppl are angry about SOMETHING
now.

maybe you take hope in the fact that there are other ppl trying to organize,
trying to figure it out.



and maybe you are sick of ppl saying that all we need to do is turn out and vote...
as if the ability to even mobilize ppl to get out the vote
are skills that just fall out of the sky. much less having the
organizational capacity to get ppl to KEEP paying attention
after the election is over.




since you made an assumption about me,
I'll make one about you.

you are the type of guy that... you know what?
nevermind. i don't know what you are doing on a local level.


all i know is what you are posting right now is
hurting that cause.

I'll leave it at that.

I worked for a labor union that could turn out 1,000 ppl to go knock on doors for any political candidate in 30 degree weather in less than 48hrs.

You dont watch Scandal?

There are PR and Lobbying firms in DC that can do the same at just about any location worldwide.

She needed to stay home.

>I worked for a labor union that could turn out 1,000 ppl to
>go knock on doors for any political candidate in 30 degree
>weather in less than 48hrs.
>

it would be great to have an organization like that in fergeson.
maybe somebody is out there building one now.

or maybe the person that will build it is at a rally.

or maybe somebody that is seeing all of the press coverage this is getting
will be inspired to build an organization like that in their own community.

i don't know how you read what i wrote and came to this conclusion...


>She needed to stay home.


i don't get that at all.
but this ain't worth arguing about, so we can end it here.

I've worked for campaigns across the country, this isn't about any of that. This isn't an AFL/CIO or a democrat or even a congressional black caucus thing - all we got is us.

Now I'm not saying that we should all get on the bus or that anyone should. But to deny that something hangs in the balance here is to be woefully ignorant.

There's no PR or lobbying firm against police abuse of black bodies. None of those orgs give a shit. If push comes to shove AFL/CIO and every other union is siding with FOP.

The locals should take the lead on this but that doesn't mean they don't need outside support. Whomever goes there will find out what is required of them when they get there. They will also have a responsibility to their own communities. This issue is much bigger than Ferguson. As you may have noticed shit didn't pop off in long island, but this protest has reinvigorated protests and demonstrations across the country and worldwide. We are all vested in this.


>I worked for a labor union that could turn out 1,000 ppl to
>go knock on doors for any political candidate in 30 degree
>weather in less than 48hrs.
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>You dont watch Scandal?
>
>There are PR and Lobbying firms in DC that can do the same at
>just about any location worldwide.
>
>She needed to stay home.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

knuckleheads supposedly grabbed her ass and lifted up her skirt, some other folks intervened but that shit could've been a lot worse. It's complete lawlessness out there at night. The police hold their positions but anything away from that they just watch it happen for the most part.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

the peaceful shit is day/afternoon...after 9 or so...anything goes.

prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

no snark

but it's telling that people are so quick to shout down others that want to get invovled in demonstrations, etc...

are you doing any of those things you suggested?

I think every person interested in the issue should descend on Ferguson, IMO

until something does get done.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

sounds like you care and have thought about it

one of my issues with being so contrarian to those who are actually doing something

whether you agree with them or not

outside of ideas and words

you aren't really offering an option

some good ideas in there, and I've heard the same elsewhere

but if you disagree with the methods being used

why not get involved, and make your suggestions viable options?

or is contrarian as far as you are willing to go?

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you can't understand it with an explanation

from following them AND hitting the streets to join the protests/demonstrations. a person can definitely vote and lobby legislators but still get out there and yell and chant and carry signs, et al.

fuck you.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-hundreds-rally-downtown-20140817-story.html

and there was one gentleman in particular

from his accent, sounded middle eastern

but he just kept yelling and yelling and yelling

about how marching isn't going to do anything

somebody shot you, shot back, etc...

so I told him, he could leave

and I used hand gestures to get him to sit down and shut up while the families spoke

if people have other ideas, or want to do something else

cool, I'm genuinely interested

but if you aren't going to actually do something

I think you should STFU, IMO

and as I replied in a previous post

I am a college graduate and I do vote

and nothing has changed

this is a generation that lived through Rodney King

which is almost 25 years ago

and from Eric Gardner, to Michael Brown, to Ezell Ford

the police are still murdering unarmed black men

the riots and protests are intially a reaction

because folks need an outlet

but people want to sit at home and wage their finger, on some, you all should be doing this and not that

WHAT'S STOPPING YOU?

EVERYBODY WANTS CHANGE, THEY JUST WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO BRING IT TO THEM!

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is irrelevant.

The primary reason I'm saying she shouldn't go is it's unsafe. Honestly I don't know her in real life and I don't really care what she does but I would give that same advice to any female relative or close friend that was talking about going out there.

As far as the Mike Brown case like I said I think we have to let the legal system take it's course. No amount of protesting is going to help that. It CAN hurt by possibly swaying potential jurors in favor of the officer.

Also I think the powers that be are actually using the protesters to make the community and blacks look bad anyway. The timetable in the release of certain information, the shuffle of law enforcement agencies, it's been confirmed that there are "anarchist" plants in the crowds who are intentionally trying to incite violence. There's all kind of crazy shit going on that's not reaching national media. This whole thing smells like a big setup. For what I don't know.

Also on another note, I personally feel like blacks men killing each other is a much bigger is but it's too big to tackle so people look for smaller soapbox issues like this to rally around.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

This aint no JENNA6 or Bloody Sunday where folks are marching for attn and you need massive numbers of ppl

This is a pure civil war and needs to be treated as such

Going to Fergusson seems kinda self centered in my view
You going to interview ppl?
For what?
Putting yourself in harms way for lil return
Its folks in the middle of the trenches livestreaming already

I see nothing good coming from this

do you have children? a job? your mother still alive?

seems a lot of you guys live in close proximity to Ferguson

please keep us posted

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Maybe try the daylight protests??

Because the night time protesters might lose public sympathy at some point and then the police will crack heads.

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Good luck out there.

"a little air restriction ain't hurt nobody." - BSR

and if you cant go, donate to somebody who is.

& if you cant donate for the love of god PLEASE shut the fuck up abt telling OTHER people to not donate or go or pay attention!

that is literally what the power structure wants most desperately right now

what is this shit abt? its abt a system, exemplified by the police who feel they have the right to kill you. whether youre black, white, gay, straight, old, young, rich, poor, it doesnt matter.

if we all "calm down" & let this shit die now...we KNOW there will be ANOTHER murder. and another. and...another. i mean, when is enough enough? at what point do we say no we arent going to chill, no we arent going to 'letthe system work' the system been allegedly working for 400 yrs. shit aint no allegedly the system IS working...right now as we speak, we trying to pull that shit apart at the gears

in a week...a bunch of teenagers from bumfuck st louis became THE number one story in the world. how on earth can yall look away from that or not support that? naw man.

i dont support or advocate violence or attacking the police, that is suicide. but i DO absolutely support staying out past the "curfew" and continuing to agitate agitate agitate not just in ferguson but nationwide...til this shit ACTUALLY changes.

not in the next legislative session, not in 2016, not when this or that happens but right NOW man

we dont want not ONE more eric garner. or aiyana jones. or mike brown. or prince jones. or oscar grant. or _____ the next person who pisses off the wrong officer & suffers damage

The past is behind, work on the future.
Teach the youth. Encourage them not to have kids out of wedlock.
Teach them it's not ok to take handouts, teach them pride.
Ferguson is done, and that poor backwards town will never recover.

This is real democracy. The people, unfiltered letting the world know what the deal is, nobody speaking for them, no commercials just raw

Very exciting

Lucky kids

If I was a young college student with no life, couldn't keep me outta ferguson right now

So, by teaching our children not to take handouts how will that keep them from being shot by an over zealous but he meant well! Security agent type?


does it really matter?

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*shrug*


does it really matter?

vote for bin: http://tinyurl.com/qz8zep5

singing a different tune, lol

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I hope to raise young men and women who would drop what is going on in their lives when called and carry on a struggle our people have been dealing with for literally 400+ yrs

I take mine to protests and drum circles and all other kinda hippie dippie shit

As if justice and equality somehow morphed on it's own LMAO. Nobody recognizes anything to be self-evident. You have to fight for that shit. And there's levels to it. But this is at EVERY level.


>This is real democracy. The people, unfiltered letting the
>world know what the deal is, nobody speaking for them, no
>commercials just raw
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>Very exciting
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>Lucky kids
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>If I was a young college student with no life, couldn't keep
>me outta ferguson right now
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it's been over 24hrs, she shoulda made it and posted up by now.

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Thanks for all of your support and kind words.

It's really bad down here. I've never been this afraid before. I've taken part in many protests over the years but this is the most dangerous. The police and Ferguson power structure are doing everything they can to limit the media coverage and to intimidate protesters. They have also forced journalists into a "media area," which limits their ability to report. I saw Don Lemon's punk ass out there...ughh.

47 people were arrested last night for supposedly throwing water bottles and other objects. I saw some young guys (maybe 10) throwing stuff but only after police attempted to physically push them back, while also pepper spraying them. One of my colleagues was arrested around 2am, and we have not been able to get him released.

I'm currently working with a group of ACLU/Amnesty International lawyers on legal strategies, and documenting police abuses. I think the most pressing needs are food for the community, money for legal issues, funds to support protestors (we need gas masks, water, transportation, food etc), and we need folks with REAL skills to come down. We need medical professionals, lawyers, tech folks, organizers/teachers, and photographers really badly. Some people have been down here since the beginning and they are exhausted emotionally and physically. We need others to pitch in.


Here's a link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sOX4RNO5CPQp4zMUvosoWPNu_fuencZNI1nmCcRuUag/mobilebasic?viewopt=127&pli=1

Even if you are unable to come to Ferguson, you can still take part in local demonstrations. That kind of solidarity is important to keep the movement going on.

I'm exhausted...working mostly on fumes but I just wanted to share.