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DavidHasselhoff
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"France announces Raqqa airstrikes on ISIS"


          

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/middleeast/france-announces-raqqa-airstrikes-on-isis/index.html

  

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very expected and very disappointing
Nov 15th 2015
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Yeah, ISIS seems reasonable enough.
Nov 16th 2015
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      some people dont endorse violence
Nov 16th 2015
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           The reason is to slaughter current members of ISIS
Nov 16th 2015
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                i dunno but ISIS seems to WANT war in Syria.
Nov 16th 2015
12
                Come from within Islam? That shit won't work - look at the US
Nov 16th 2015
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                     i dunno.
Nov 16th 2015
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                i mean its not a reason to go in on *a poster*
Nov 18th 2015
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About time they joined the fight
Nov 16th 2015
3
#prayforsyria
Nov 16th 2015
4
WHAT THE FUCK DO FRENCH PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT JAMAICAN
Nov 16th 2015
5
hahaha
Nov 16th 2015
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I saw Rah Digga at first but this is better. lol
Nov 16th 2015
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LOL!!!!!!!
Nov 16th 2015
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LOL
Nov 16th 2015
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!
Nov 16th 2015
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lol
Nov 16th 2015
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well done
Nov 16th 2015
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LOL I actually thought it read 'RAGGA' thanks LBWG!!!
Nov 18th 2015
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tears.lol
Nov 18th 2015
20
Fuck... I thought it said "ragga" too, lol
Nov 18th 2015
21

Jon
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1. "very expected and very disappointing "
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2. "Yeah, ISIS seems reasonable enough."
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Are you out of your fucking mind?

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cgonz00cc
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6. "some people dont endorse violence"
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im not sure that a reason to go in

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handle
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7. "The reason is to slaughter current members of ISIS"
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They're a very violent death cult - can you propose another way to deal with them?

They are *literally* the worse case scenario.

Their stated goals call for the killing of anyone who is not them that they can not convert to their sick world view.

Can't really reason with that.

Now, will bombing make 10,000 more folks want to join up? I'm not expert enough to answer that. Seems likely - but what is your proposed approach?

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SoWhat
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12. "i dunno but ISIS seems to WANT war in Syria."
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and most and if not all members of ISIS are prepared to die for the cause. they expect it, even. they welcome it. as if they're on some apocalyptic shit.

so i dunno that waging war w/them is the answer. unless there's some assurance of absolute annihilation. but ISIS will not surrender - there will be no peace treaty coming out of this. and ISIS isn't the problem as much as the ideas that drive it are the problem. and the ideas may be rooted in some practically frightening interpretations of the Koran. so i dunno that even killing every avowed member of ISIS would solve the problem.

the solution might really need to come from w/in Islam. or something. i dunno. b/c the problem here is ideology and interpretation of holy scripture more than anything else. i think. i dunno.

i just don't think bombs will solve this.

fuck you.

  

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handle
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15. "Come from within Islam? That shit won't work - look at the US"
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>i just don't think bombs will solve this.

Nothing will SOLVE this - they're will always be terrorists - and for the foreseeable future they will be offshoot cults based on Islam. (EVERY religion goes through this phase, and it is cyclical. And we have plenty of crazy off shoot cults of Christianity in the US - mainstream Islam is about as good/bad as mainstream Christianity.)

(No problem is ever completely solved when humans are in the equation - we have a lot of cops, but still have crime.)

There's no way to get people out of this ideology - they're brains have been put into a state where complete victory or complete annihilation are the only options.

It's like when you hear that someone killed all their pets, their entire family, and then shot themselves - that's the biological brain state they're in. But these particular cults goals' include putting people into that state.

Shit, we have razy Christian militias here in the US that could easily go into that direction - but at least in the US they aren't quite their yet. (We know they're secretly watching the Kardasiahns reality show, and Antiques Roadshow, etc. They're not closed off like some of these cults in the middle east.) (And yes, I realize that they terrorize the locals - just like ISIS does.)

We could prevent some of it by blanketing the world with knowledge - that all of their gods are bullshit and what they're following is a club with rules. Some clubs have rules I like more than others. But their club's rules are fucking crazy. (But "our" club's wouldn't allow knowledge to be spread.)

Again, this is a CULT we're dealing with. And the problem will never be SOLVED - just lessened.

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SoWhat
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16. "i dunno."
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fuck you.

  

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18. "i mean its not a reason to go in on *a poster*"
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Not sure why pacifism would call for snark

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Amritsar
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3. "About time they joined the fight "
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Put down the croissants and red wine

Pick up these controls to a drone

  

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Big Kuntry
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4. "#prayforsyria"
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5. "WHAT THE FUCK DO FRENCH PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT JAMAICAN "
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MUSIC!?!?

THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT!

  

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8. "hahaha"
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9. "I saw Rah Digga at first but this is better. lol"
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10. "LOL!!!!!!!"
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fuck you.

  

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11. "LOL"
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13. "!"
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still funny

  

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14. "lol"
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17. "well done"
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19. "LOL I actually thought it read 'RAGGA' thanks LBWG!!!"
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20. "tears.lol"
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21. "Fuck... I thought it said "ragga" too, lol"
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