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dj_variable
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"Is Bill Cosby's Lawyer a sellout?"


  

          

A woman defending a serial rapist?

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cmon
Jan 05th 2016
1
She's a lawyer.
Jan 05th 2016
2
^^^
Jan 05th 2016
3
right
Jan 05th 2016
4
RE: She's a lawyer.
Jan 05th 2016
5
Then there would be no lawyers
Jan 05th 2016
6
lmao...basically
Jan 05th 2016
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you would think
Jan 05th 2016
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      RE: you would think
Jan 05th 2016
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      every defense attorney wants a case like this
Jan 05th 2016
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Jan 05th 2016
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      A high profile case with a rich client?
Jan 05th 2016
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      Is this bill cosby's defense strategy?
Jan 05th 2016
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Even accused serial rapists deserve competent attorneys
Jan 05th 2016
12
      ^^^^
Jan 05th 2016
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</end post>
Jan 06th 2016
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Boy, Trolls trying to use the Force
Jan 05th 2016
9
I think most would be females.
Jan 05th 2016
11
A damn good attorney is what she is.
Jan 05th 2016
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Yeah, she good.
Jan 05th 2016
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      I hope the pissed off people are prepared for that.
Jan 05th 2016
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           RE: I hope the pissed off people are prepared for that.
Jan 05th 2016
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                well, if she changed you staunch Cosby-haters
Jan 05th 2016
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                     it isn't about haters or lovers, it's about evidence vs. reasonable..
Jan 05th 2016
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                          as judged by you.
Jan 05th 2016
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                          keep making it personal if you want. You'll be the one we have to..
Jan 05th 2016
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                               if knowing who you are and what you believe is personal, then I guess so...
Jan 05th 2016
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                                    k.
Jan 05th 2016
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                                         to be fair,
Jan 06th 2016
76
                                              that's great.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                                   is it?
Jan 06th 2016
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                                                        Awesome.
Jan 06th 2016
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                          ^^baby sitter's club
Jan 05th 2016
30
If she pulls this off, her Client Rolodex i$s about to Explode! $$$$
Jan 05th 2016
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Her being on this case is a wonderful thing. She looks like she's going
Jan 05th 2016
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lol @ "when he gets convicted"
Jan 05th 2016
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who says she's not a celebrity now?
Jan 05th 2016
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      On my FB, people are rolling their eyes at her (probably because she's c...
Jan 05th 2016
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      IKR... of course those who scream guilty wont see it
Jan 05th 2016
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he's accused, presumed innocent
Jan 05th 2016
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defense attorneys have plenty of clients they think are probably guilty
Jan 05th 2016
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      "God save me from an innocent client" (c) Defense attorney prayer
Jan 05th 2016
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      true
Jan 05th 2016
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      Craziest story I have on this side is a girl who was my parents' friend'...
Jan 05th 2016
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      what you did doesn't matter, what can they prove you did?
Jan 05th 2016
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      i usually don't care one way or the other.
Jan 05th 2016
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           one of my friend's brother is an air force(?) jag
Jan 05th 2016
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                right. plus as you said before
Jan 05th 2016
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even rapists deserve legal representation, and someone must provide it
Jan 05th 2016
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quick qn: so do we believe that anyone who isnt convicted
Jan 05th 2016
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see also: presumption of innocence in the court of public opinion.
Jan 05th 2016
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*this*
Jan 05th 2016
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Presumption of innocence until proven guilty should apply unequivocally
Jan 05th 2016
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      the news media should report the truth.
Jan 05th 2016
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      im not asking about the media
Jan 05th 2016
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      I said he's gonna skate on the charges. Said nothing about his innocence
Jan 05th 2016
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      hmmm...
Jan 05th 2016
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      I don't know shit lol
Jan 05th 2016
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           cool.
Jan 05th 2016
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      so basically, a trial is a resolution? sufficient demonstration of innoc...
Jan 05th 2016
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      As good as a demonstration as we have in our society
Jan 05th 2016
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      i cannot agree w/this whatsoever.
Jan 05th 2016
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           My point is, there are very few venues to demonstrate your innocence
Jan 05th 2016
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      I mean we all know people ain't shit
Jan 05th 2016
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      Hell no
Jan 05th 2016
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depends on the case.
Jan 05th 2016
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oh you are parceling out guilt
Jan 05th 2016
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      your arms must be tired from all that reaching.
Jan 05th 2016
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           the reason he's not on trial for the other cases
Jan 05th 2016
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                wait... what???
Jan 05th 2016
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                     are you dumb?
Jan 06th 2016
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                          If you're going to quote me, do it right
Jan 06th 2016
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No, but neither should we presume guilt if convicted
Jan 06th 2016
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her name is Monique Pressley
Jan 05th 2016
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she's doing her job.
Jan 05th 2016
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Too bad she wasn't around when Mike Tyson was charge w/ rape?
Jan 05th 2016
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Tyson raped that woman.
Jan 05th 2016
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      No, Desiree couldn't WAIT to get next to Mike. She went to that room
Jan 05th 2016
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      your reasoning is why a lot of rape victims don't come forward.
Jan 05th 2016
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      No, Desiree Washington's situation is unlike almost any other woman
Jan 05th 2016
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      she claimed she didn't know who Mike Tyson was
Jan 06th 2016
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           She also began the leg work on a civil suit pre-trial
Jan 06th 2016
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                it's likely also about witness credibility.
Jan 06th 2016
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                     There are jurors who now have reasonable doubt
Jan 06th 2016
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                     i dunno why that info was excluded from the trial.
Jan 06th 2016
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                          Understood, but that's neither here nor there.
Jan 06th 2016
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                               or that's his opinion after having reviewed the facts.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                    That opinion doesn't fit the facts
Jan 06th 2016
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                                         naw.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                              Nah. That's an unreasonable conclusion.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                                   *shrugs*
Jan 06th 2016
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                                                        Do you think opinions can be wrong?
Jan 06th 2016
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                                                             yeah.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                                                  That's all I'm getting at.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                                                       yup.
Jan 06th 2016
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                     Yeah, from all I heard, Mike was a TERRIBLE witness and basically
Jan 06th 2016
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                     Yeah, from all I heard, Mike was a TERRIBLE witness and basically
Jan 06th 2016
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      You're clearly ignorant to the facts of THIS case.
Jan 06th 2016
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           make it plain then.
Jan 06th 2016
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                Since when are you interested in sincere conversation?
Jan 06th 2016
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                     LOL
Jan 06th 2016
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                          Nah. You're just that predictable.
Jan 06th 2016
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                               yup, i am that predictable.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                    ^^^I would like to introduce this into evidence.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                         ha! that's funny
Jan 06th 2016
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                                              Worthy of a smirk, not all out laughter.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                                   yes. that's what would happen.
Jan 06th 2016
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                                                        Ok.
Jan 06th 2016
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      In other words, she acted like a **** and got treated like such.
Jan 06th 2016
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      Let's not get carried away.
Jan 06th 2016
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      Well, I wouldn't put it like that; but I guess you could put it like tha...
Jan 06th 2016
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      You realize a woman can go to a guys room, 2Am in the morning, get
Jan 06th 2016
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           Of course. See post # 67, where I stated in part:
Jan 06th 2016
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      You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Jan 06th 2016
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funny how some folks said the same thing about the woman defending Kobe ...
Jan 06th 2016
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but is this even rape?
Jan 06th 2016
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wow.
Jan 06th 2016
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I can't think of a lawyer who was widely vilified for representing their...
Jan 06th 2016
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ABSOLUTELY NOT. she is doing her job as an officer of the court.
Jan 06th 2016
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Well said. Wouldn't we all want her at our table in court?
Jan 06th 2016
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she bomb..Galveston TX Stand the fk UP.....
Jan 06th 2016
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She's just doing her job and getting paid in capital letters
Jan 06th 2016
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1. "cmon"
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2. "She's a lawyer."
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3. "^^^"
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4. "right"
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5. "RE: She's a lawyer."
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could you put your profession ahead of your values?

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6. "Then there would be no lawyers"
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7. "lmao...basically"
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8. "you would think"
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Once you got high in your career, you would have the freedom to pick and choose.

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10. "RE: you would think"
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14. "every defense attorney wants a case like this"
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18. "A high profile case with a rich client?"
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24. "Is this bill cosby's defense strategy?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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12. "Even accused serial rapists deserve competent attorneys"
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35. "^^^^"
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80. "</end post>"
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doing the job she was hired to do.

  

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9. "Boy, Trolls trying to use the Force"
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Why would she even be considered a sellout of any kind? She's a lawyer. Does your logic apply to all criminal defense lawyers?
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11. "I think most would be females."
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Kinda weird having a male defend an accused male rapist.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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13. "A damn good attorney is what she is."
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15. "Yeah, she good."
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Every time I see her give interviews, she just obliterates whatever the interviewer puts in front of her.

He's gonna get off on the criminal case.

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16. "I hope the pissed off people are prepared for that."
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This woman creates reasonable doubt in her sleep. And does it with a smile.

>He's gonna get off on the criminal case.

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23. "RE: I hope the pissed off people are prepared for that."
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^^^^^^

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26. "well, if she changed you staunch Cosby-haters"
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then her arguments must be really good.

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27. "it isn't about haters or lovers, it's about evidence vs. reasonable.."
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doubt.

And she's shown herself to be fully capable of providing a healthy dose of the latter...WELL.

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29. "as judged by you."
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if you're on the jury, no attorney couldn't get Cosby off.

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31. "keep making it personal if you want. You'll be the one we have to.."
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keep of the ledge when the verdict comes in... if it ever makes it to trial.

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34. "if knowing who you are and what you believe is personal, then I guess so..."
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but you've spent the last few years telling me, it'd be rude to ignore you.


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38. "k."
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76. "to be fair,"
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you are a massive piece of shit.

  

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78. "that's great. "
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79. "is it?"
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i don't share your perspective, thank fuck.

  

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81. "Awesome."
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30. "^^baby sitter's club"
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lol

I believe Cosby did a lot of what he's accused of.
But this fool is about to turn me into a die hard supporter

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19. "If she pulls this off, her Client Rolodex i$s about to Explode! $$$$"
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20. "Her being on this case is a wonderful thing. She looks like she's going"
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to give him a world-class defense. And when he gets convicted, no one will be able to say his side didn't try their best to get him off.

It's funny, if she were defending anybody else, she'd be a straight up celebrity right now, like Moseley was in Baltimore last year.

  

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22. "lol @ "when he gets convicted""
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33. "who says she's not a celebrity now?"
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she seems to be on TV quite a bit and she's absolutely blowing up on social media.

  

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36. "On my FB, people are rolling their eyes at her (probably because she's c..."
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and is going to give the Montgomery County DA a rough time.)

  

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39. "IKR... of course those who scream guilty wont see it"
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but she is getting her shine from this case already

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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21. "he's accused, presumed innocent"
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She believes in her client's innocence and more importantly doesn't believe the plantiffs claims against her client.

If she didn't believe in her clients innocence, she could have chosen to decline.

But she didn't.

End of story.

  

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28. "defense attorneys have plenty of clients they think are probably guilty"
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or are even definitely guilty.

they still deserve representation.



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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32. ""God save me from an innocent client" (c) Defense attorney prayer"
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37. "true"
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I just dont get that feel with this attorney.

I think she really believes that the plantiffs charges are frivolous.

We'll see.

  

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44. "Craziest story I have on this side is a girl who was my parents' friend'..."
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daughter. New Years Day or the day after, back in 2000, she calls them from jail telling them that she's been accused of killing her mom. My dad is like "ok, immediately stop talking, stop calling people...I'll call my Lawyer for you."

My dad talks to the Lawyer, and the first thing he asked was "was there anyone else in the house? OH, her boyfriend? PERFECT....we'll just find a way to put this on him."

I feel like he already knew she was guilty, but he was all about getting her off.

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52. "what you did doesn't matter, what can they prove you did?"
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and we'll work back from there

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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45. "i usually don't care one way or the other."
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i normally don't ask.

fuck you.

  

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53. "one of my friend's brother is an air force(?) jag"
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and he has to defend people accused of all kinds of shit. why ask, when you're already looking for a way to get the charges dropped entirely, etc.



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55. "right. plus as you said before"
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i'm more concerned w/the prosecution's evidence than i am w/whether my client is actually guilty or actually innocent.

fuck you.

  

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25. "even rapists deserve legal representation, and someone must provide it"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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40. "quick qn: so do we believe that anyone who isnt convicted"
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/found guilty is innocent?

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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42. "see also: presumption of innocence in the court of public opinion."
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do we the sitting jury in the court of public opinion also believe Chicago Officer Van Dyke (accused of murdering Laquan McDonald) is innocent until proven guilty?

the 6 Baltimore officers in the Freddie Gray case - innocent?

i ask b/c i see ppl throw around that presumption of innocence bit when discussing the Cosby case as if the fact that judges instruct jurors to presume a criminal defendant is innocent until the prosecution proves guilt beyond reasonable doubt has ANYTHING to do w/whether we the public must or should presume innocent. b/c it don't. b/c we the public have NO duty to presume innocence unless/until we are sitting jurors in a criminal case having been so instructed by a judge. which means all of us sitting at our computers making 'em pute have no duty to presume Bill's innocence. so when ppl throw that bullshit around i tend to LOL @ 'em.

but i digress.

oh, and what about purported defendants where the prosecution submitted a case to a grand jury which declined to return an indictment? i wonder if the same ppl spouting that presumption of innocence horseshit also believe those defendants are innocent.

so...Cleveland Officer Loehmann - innocent? Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson - innocent? NY Officer Pantaleo - innocent?

only those ppl can answer.

i don't really give a shit if they do answer (they shouldn't) b/c i've already rendered my verdict as to their character. i find them lacking. and i want nothing to do w/them. they are deficient as ppl. trolls. cretins. lesser than. idiots. nincompoops. simpletons. doofuses.

bless they hearts.

and fuck 'em.



fuck you.

  

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47. "*this*"
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>b/c i've already rendered my verdict as to their character. i
>find them lacking. and i want nothing to do w/them. they are
>deficient as ppl. trolls. cretins. lesser than. idiots.
>nincompoops. simpletons. doofuses.
>
>bless they hearts.
>
>and fuck 'em.
>
>
>
>

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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49. "Presumption of innocence until proven guilty should apply unequivocally"
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to the media.

But besides that you can think whatever you want personally

  

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50. "the news media should report the truth."
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so if the defendant hasn't been convicted in a court of law then the news should report that. and generally the news shouldn't take sides when reporting and should strive for objectivity. of course, it's fine for the news media to take sides when editorializing as long as they make a clear distinction between editorial pieces and news reporting. too often that line gets blurred.

fuck you.

  

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51. "im not asking about the media"
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im asking these folk out here who are all
he's gonna walk free and this will prove his innocence
if this is what they are trying to tell us
that they believe everyone who walks out of a court trial is innocent
or to add nuance to it- if they think the result of a court trial means a presumption of innocence

i really would like this answered

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57. "I said he's gonna skate on the charges. Said nothing about his innocence"
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I don't know what evidence the prosecution has.
But given that the media has been firmly against Cosby and his lawyer has been knocking their fast balls out the park, I don't think there's a chance he's found guilty.

He may have assaulted this woman. But I don't think they can prove it.


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<or to add nuance to it- if they think the <result of a court trial means a <presumption of innocence
<

This part of your question is really interesting. I'd be nice to talk about this outside the context of Cosby since that issue is so charged.

But I think the result of the trial should add substantial credence to your case for absolving yourself from the alleged crime.

At some point, there needs to be a resolution. And a trial is a decent enough stage to get that. If an adversary is not able to convince your peers that you did the crime, then (in most cases) that should be sufficient to demonstrate your innocence.

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58. "hmmm..."
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you say this:

>I don't know what evidence the prosecution has.

but also this:

> he's gonna skate on the charges.

...how do you know he's gonna 'skate' w/o knowing the prosecution's evidence?

then you said this:

>But given that the media has been firmly against Cosby and his
>lawyer has been knocking their fast balls out the park, I
>don't think there's a chance he's found guilty.

...and that's after you'd said this:

>I don't know what evidence the prosecution has.

so why do think the fact that his lawyer has 'knock(ed the media's) fast balls out of the park' means 'he's gonna skate'? why don't you think 'there's a chance he's found guilty' just b/c his lawyer is giving good tv interviews on his behalf as she's paid to do?

then you said this:

>He may have assaulted this woman. But I don't think they can
>prove it.

and this is after you said:

>I don't know what evidence the prosecution has.

...so you don't think the prosecution can prove Bill's guilt even though you haven't seen the evidence?

How, Sway? (c) Kanye.

fuck you.

  

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61. "I don't know shit lol"
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Just like most everyone else. I only know what the media has disclosed.

And my perception from the little I do know (and his lawyer's appearances) is that there is lots of reasonable doubt.

I'm making uninformed speculations just like we do for everything around here

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63. "cool."
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fuck you.

  

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66. "so basically, a trial is a resolution? sufficient demonstration of innoc..."
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>But I think the result of the trial should add substantial
>credence to your case for absolving yourself from the alleged
>crime.
>
>At some point, there needs to be a resolution. And a trial is
>a decent enough stage to get that. If an adversary is not able
>to convince your peers that you did the crime, then (in most
>cases) that should be sufficient to demonstrate your
>innocence.

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http://perspectivesudans.blogspot.com/
i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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69. "As good as a demonstration as we have in our society"
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Someone says you did something. You say you didn't do it. This conflict needs to be resolved somehow.

Prosecution puts together evidence trying to prove that you did it.

Your peers get together and determine that, given the evidence, they don't believe you did it.
That process and outcome is a demonstration of your innocence (but definitely not proof).

Of course there are occasional failings in the system. But I think it's fair for a person who comes through with a not guilty verdict to claim their innocence. I mean what else can they do to prove it?

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70. "i cannot agree w/this whatsoever."
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>I think the result of the trial should add substantial
>credence to your case for absolving yourself from the alleged
>crime.
>
>At some point, there needs to be a resolution. And a trial is
>a decent enough stage to get that. If an adversary is not able
>to convince your peers that you did the crime, then (in most
>cases) that should be sufficient to demonstrate your
>innocence.

absolutely not!

there could be all sorts of reasons a fact-finder acquits any given defendant - some of them are just/right/fair and plenty of them aren't at all. and most of those reasons may not have anything at all to do w/the defendant's actual guilt or innocence. which is why courts of law generally are not concerned w/determining actual guilt or innocence. instead the court is concerned w/determining relative guilt considering the charge(s) brought by a prosecutor (as allowed by laws written by a legislature) and based on laws and rules (written by appellate judges and legislatures) as applied to facts presented at trial (as limited by rules written by appellate judges and also by the various constitutions (state and federal)) among other factors and considerations. given all of that i wouldn't necessarily go too far ascribing actual guilt or innocence to any defendant based on a trial verdict.

fuck you.

  

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71. "My point is, there are very few venues to demonstrate your innocence"
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I get that it's not perfect. There could be clear evidence that someone committed a murder. But if that evidence is improperly collected, she could get a not guilty verdict.
Clearly guilty, but got off on a technicality.

But in general, if someone is put through the rigors of trial and comes out unscathed, I think they deserve some benefit of innocence in the matter

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60. "I mean we all know people ain't shit"
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Niggas will sit here and act like it but we know.

  

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62. "Hell no"
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There could be tons of evidence that the jury isn't allowed to hear about. The media should be free to report that as relevant.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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46. "depends on the case."
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In the case of cops that have murdered unarmed citizens where clear video exists of that murder that millions have seen and can determine that, yes the cop murdered said citizen yet no charges are ever brought; those cops are guilty as fuck. I saw it with my own eyes, there's nothing else needed.

In OJ's case, I do believe he was innocent of the actual murder, but he's covering for one of his sons that actually did it. He's guilty as an accomplice, or for hiding evidence, but not of murder.

In Cosby's case, I believe at least a few of those women were unwillingly drugged and raped, though not necessarily the one he's brought up on charges for. For the women he drugged without their knowledge, yes, he's guilty. For the rest, worst case he's guilty of being an admitted drug dealer and cheating on his wife.

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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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48. "oh you are parceling out guilt"
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>In Cosby's case, I believe at least a few of those women were
>unwillingly drugged and raped, though not necessarily the one
>he's brought up on charges for. For the women he drugged
>without their knowledge, yes, he's guilty. For the rest, worst
>case he's guilty of being an admitted drug dealer and cheating
>on his wife.

so you believe he should beat the case?
not go to jail? because of the statute of limitations? or because what?

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56. "your arms must be tired from all that reaching."
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>so you believe he should beat the case?

If the facts presented during trial show Bill guilty in this particular case then that's it; he's guilty.

>not go to jail?

If convicted, he can spend the rest of his life there and I wouldn't so much as raise an eyebrow.

>because of the statute of limitations? or
>because what?

what the fuck are you talking about? Do you even know???


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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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68. "the reason he's not on trial for the other cases"
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>>because of the statute of limitations? or
>>because what?
>
>what the fuck are you talking about? Do you even know???

you mentioned are becuase of the statute of limitations
otherwise he would've probably have been facing more than one woman on trial
the reason *this* is happening is because time was running out

so.... its not so much that *this* woman is not credible- or whatever you wrote.
its unfortunate that there are time limits

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72. "wait... what???"
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>you mentioned are becuase of the statute of limitations
>otherwise he would've probably have been facing more than one
>woman on trial
>the reason *this* is happening is because time was running
>out
>
>so.... its not so much that *this* woman is not credible- or
>whatever you wrote.
>its unfortunate that there are time limits


Nothing you wrote applies to any of my statements. Connect the dots here 'cause I never once mentioned shit about the statute of limitations.



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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
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83. "are you dumb?"
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you wrote this "few of those women were unwillingly drugged and raped, though not necessarily the one he's brought up on charges for."

the reason the other women cannot take him to trial,
even if they may have a better case than *this* woman is because
the statute of limitations has expired on their cases.

geez.

>Nothing you wrote applies to any of my statements. Connect the
>dots here 'cause I never once mentioned shit about the statute
>of limitations.

how about you connect some dots
reading is fundamental
what i wrote is appropos
perhaps you just dont comprehend

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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114. "If you're going to quote me, do it right"
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>
>you wrote this "few of those women were unwillingly drugged
>and raped, though not necessarily the one he's brought up on
>charges for."

No, what I wrote was this: "... I believe at least a few of those women were unwillingly drugged and raped, though not necessarily the one he's brought up on charges for."


>
>the reason the other women cannot take him to trial,
>even if they may have a better case than *this* woman is
>because
>the statute of limitations has expired on their cases.

But I wasn't talking about whether or not he can be brought up on charges for any of the other cases, I was simply stating whether or not I believed he was guilty in a few of those cases, which I do.

>
>geez.
>
>>Nothing you wrote applies to any of my statements. Connect
>the
>>dots here 'cause I never once mentioned shit about the
>statute
>>of limitations.
>
>how about you connect some dots
>reading is fundamental

Start with yourself. What you wrote was clearly out of context with the post I replied to and what I wrote.

>what i wrote is appropos
>perhaps you just dont comprehend

see above.

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98. "No, but neither should we presume guilt if convicted"
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that is to say, in any case where we have an actual conversation with an ability to freely and objectively review the facts at hand without court motions, judicial discretion, jury selection, and handcrafted attorney narratives designed to emotionally manipulate said juries, we should be able to arrive at a conclusion based on the facts themselves.

  

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41. "her name is Monique Pressley"
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and she's about to be this generations Johnnie Cochran. it really doesn't matter if you think Bill did it or not, they still have to prove it. call her whatever you want, i'm sure she can handle it.

  

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43. "she's doing her job."
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as she should. if i were in Bill's position i'd want a vigorous defense. it appears she'll give him one.

fuck you.

  

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54. "Too bad she wasn't around when Mike Tyson was charge w/ rape?"
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59. "Tyson raped that woman."
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Mike Tyson often talks about sex as a means of violence and/or control. He did so in his Broadway show in talking about he didn't know whether to "fuck or fight" Brad Pitt when he caught Brad with Robin Givens. What's so bizarre about this is that the entire audience was laughing on the HBO show.

Not to mention, him recounting, with the laughte,r the story of him grabbing a teenage girl's ass when he was younger and the girl's uncle putting a gun to him about it.

Given how Mike Tyson views women and sex and the circumstances of the accusation, it's not at all a far reach to believe he raped her. I'm sure he doesn't categorize what he did as rape, though.

  

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64. "No, Desiree couldn't WAIT to get next to Mike. She went to that room"
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at 2 a.m., in her hoochie-fied dress and tossed it to him like a Frisbee.

Where Mike screwed up is that he played her like a 2-bit ho', instead of a black beauty contestant princess.

At least that's my view, but I really don't KNOW, but neither do you, because neither one of us was there.


As for his shows, Mike is just giving the people what the want. They want to believe that he's some type of subhuman monster, so that's what he's giving them. What else he gonna do to make a living?

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65. "your reasoning is why a lot of rape victims don't come forward."
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you basically just said she was a slut who came on to him. smh

Tyson is "acting" like a person who has distorted views on sex and women to make a living. ooooooooooo...k

  

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67. "No, Desiree Washington's situation is unlike almost any other woman"
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who has been in a rape situation.

It is possible for her to be a slut (or act in a slutty manner) and still be raped. The two are not mutually exclusive.

However, I do not think that's the case here. Ms. Washington felt that she was played by Mike after he got his and she acted like a woman who had been scorned.

Mike acts a fool and plays up the monster role in general because he knows that people will pay to hear him speak in such a manner and see him act that way.

Believe it or not, Mike is a fairly intelligent man. Not the most articulate man, but intelligent nonetheless. Who is gonna pay to hear him recite Shakespeare or quote the Quran?

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77. "she claimed she didn't know who Mike Tyson was"
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I thought that was bullshit.

I think the trial even exposed her dad was a huge boxing fan.

I find it hard to believe she didn't know who Tyson was at the time

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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87. "She also began the leg work on a civil suit pre-trial"
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information that was not allowed in court.

In fact, pretty much everything that cast any real reasonable doubt on the allegation was disallowed by a judge who was a former sex crimes prosecutor.

The case was pretty much the definition of reasonable doubt.

  

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92. "it's likely also about witness credibility."
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if i recall correctly and based on the Googling i just did - Tyson didn't testify well during cross. as expected. meanwhile Desiree and the several other witnesses who testified for the prosecution likely seemed more believable/credible. the in-court testimony coupled w/the physical evidence could be what overcame the reasonable doubt issue for the jurors. i dunno.

but i regularly advise clients who want to testify that they can torpedo our case if they come off poorly during cross.

last year i watched a trial that featured the best defense cross exam i've ever seen. the defendant was charged w/attempted murder and accused of having stabbed the 'victim'. the victim testified on direct that the defendant had stabbed him in the chest during a verbal dispute. on direct the victim's demeanor was rather meek and fairly mild. he was a convicted felon and the defense attorney was allowed to question him about that in order to encourage the jury to consider that when deciding if the victim is a credible witness (that's standard stuff). so the key part of the cross started out w/the defense attorney asking the victim, 'You're a convicted felon, aren't you?' the victim didn't take kindly to that question. he said 'What did you say??' so the lawyer repeated the question. by this point in the cross the victim was already pretty hot - his demeanor had changed and his answers were evasive. he was frowning. he was much less cooperative than he'd been on direct. anyway, after the 'convicted felon' question, the victim literally stood up in the witness box and lunged at the defense lawyer. the judge ordered the jury out of the room. then he admonished the victim. but by then it was too late - the defense lawyer had exposed the victim as a violent man w/a quick temper. and that was the defense lawyer's theory of the case - that the victim was the aggressor and that someone else had stabbed him during an argument. the defendant was acquitted on all charges.

i said all of that to say that Mike may have torpedoed his own case w/his conduct during cross. he didn't get up and lunge at the prosecutor but apparently he was exposed enough that the jury may have turned against him. it happens.

fuck you.

  

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96. "There are jurors who now have reasonable doubt"
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Once they heard some of the information that was kept out of the trial.

His conviction was, in my opinion, due far more to a shitty attorney and a judge with an agenda. It really should never have been tight enough for Mike's testimony to screw him that bad.

  

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99. "i dunno why that info was excluded from the trial."
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but i know Tyson had a high-powered defense attorney post-trial (Alan Dershowitz) who sought a new trial claiming the trial wasn't fair b/c witnesses and other info was excluded and the jury was improperly instructed and the motion was denied. then he filed for an appeal raising those same issues and lost.

*shrugs*

fuck you.

  

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102. "Understood, but that's neither here nor there. "
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We're speaking in the context of someone saying he "definitely raped her". The evidence, free from the entanglements of the legal system, strongly presents a case for reasonable doubt. I will say that I believe the evidence is strong enough to say they had consensual sex, he was an asshole, she had buyers remorse and retaliated.

Still, that's my conclusion. My opinion is definitive but my argument apart from my ultimate conclusion in light of the evidence at hand is that reasonable doubt is pretty much the minimum conclusion in this particular case.

Thus, the statement that he "definitely raped her" is inconsistent with the known facts.

  

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103. "or that's his opinion after having reviewed the facts."
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y'all reached different conclusions. that happens.

fuck you.

  

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107. "That opinion doesn't fit the facts "
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An opinion that doesn't fit the facts is definitely incorrect, no matter how badly people want opinions to be infallible.

I'm able to separate my final conclusion from the baseline presented by the facts. To definitively say he raped her is far too unreasonable a conclusion based on the facts.

Anything below reasonable doubt based on the set of facts in this case is an unreasonable and incorrect conclusion.

  

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109. "naw. "
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a person can view those facts and conclude that Tyson raped Desiree. no big deal there. just like nbd if a person views those facts and either can't reach a conclusion or concludes that Tyson didn't rape her.

fuck you.

  

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110. "Nah. That's an unreasonable conclusion. "
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I'm right.

You're wrong.

Have a nice day

  

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111. "*shrugs*"
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i'm sure you think so.

fuck you.

  

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112. "Do you think opinions can be wrong?"
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More to the point, do you think my opinion that I'm right and you're wrong is wrong?

  

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113. "yeah."
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fuck you.

  

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115. "That's all I'm getting at."
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116. "yup."
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fuck you.

  

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121. "Yeah, from all I heard, Mike was a TERRIBLE witness and basically"
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and sank his owns ship.

I believe no attorney worth his salt would have thought it necessary to put him on the stand and if you're gonna do it, make sure that you properly prep the man.

>i said all of that to say that Mike may have torpedoed his own
>case w/his conduct during cross. he didn't get up and lunge
>at the prosecutor but apparently he was exposed enough that
>the jury may have turned against him. it happens.

Imagine Monique Pressley (a Black woman) getting a chance to cross examine Desiree and getting her to explain what her intentions were when she went to a man's hotel room at 2:00 a.m., IN A HOOCHIE MAMA DRESS AT THAT...what would Monique Pressley do with that kind of material right in front of her?

I'm telling you Mike would've been a free man and probably would STILL be heavy weight champion...well, maybe not still heavy weight champion, but I'm damn sure he wouldn't have served a day in jail for this alleged crime.

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122. "Yeah, from all I heard, Mike was a TERRIBLE witness and basically"
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and sank his owns ship.

I believe no attorney worth his salt would have thought it necessary to put him on the stand and if you're gonna do it, make sure that you properly prep the man.

>i said all of that to say that Mike may have torpedoed his own
>case w/his conduct during cross. he didn't get up and lunge
>at the prosecutor but apparently he was exposed enough that
>the jury may have turned against him. it happens.

Imagine Monique Pressley (a Black woman) getting a chance to cross examine Desiree and getting her to explain what her intentions were when she went to a man's hotel room at 2:00 a.m., IN A HOOCHIE MAMA DRESS AT THAT...what would Monique Pressley do with that kind of material right in front of her?

I'm telling you Mike would've been a free man and probably would STILL be heavy weight champion...well, maybe not still heavy weight champion, but I'm damn sure he wouldn't have served a day in jail for this alleged crime.

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86. "You're clearly ignorant to the facts of THIS case."
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88. "make it plain then."
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what's missing?

fuck you.

  

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90. "Since when are you interested in sincere conversation? "
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Nope. Your mind is definitely made up on this.

I'm definitely not wasting my time with you since both know you'll ignore everything and fall back on your usual "ok." and "if you say so" nonsense.

You- and she- should probably read a couple of books on the subject, Tyson's included. I'm sure all the dubious detailed are easy to find on google and if you have any interest in gaining objective perspective on this then you'll do some research.

  

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91. "LOL"
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so...you have nothing but hot air and a funky-ass attitude. per usual.

i just wanted to be sure i hadn't missed something. clearly i haven't.

fuck you.

  

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94. "Nah. You're just that predictable. "
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>so...you have nothing but hot air and a funky-ass attitude.
>per usual.

Look in the mirror mr. "Ok". "If you say so". And "sure."

>i just wanted to be sure i hadn't missed something. clearly i
>haven't.

Sure. Ok. If you say so

  

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95. "yup, i am that predictable."
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fuck you.

  

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97. "^^^I would like to introduce this into evidence. "
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Thanks for playing.

  

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100. "ha! that's funny"
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the way you used lawyerly language there to make a joke about something. very witty.

fuck you.

  

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104. "Worthy of a smirk, not all out laughter. "
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The sort of statement that would cause Jim to look into the camera on The Office.

  

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105. "yes. that's what would happen."
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fuck you.

  

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108. "Ok. "
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74. "In other words, she acted like a **** and got treated like such."
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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89. "Let's not get carried away. "
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119. "Well, I wouldn't put it like that; but I guess you could put it like tha..."
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and it fits.

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82. "You realize a woman can go to a guys room, 2Am in the morning, get"
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buck ass naked, and change her mind about having sex?


**********
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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120. "Of course. See post # 67, where I stated in part:"
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"It is possible for her to be a slut (or act in a slutty manner) and still be raped. The two are not mutually exclusive."

If she says "no" at any point, it's considered rape; I just don't believe that she said no.

Hell, Mike was probably having to tell her to take it easy and to slow down.

All speculation on my part and there's no way I can prove anything either way, but I'm just sayin'...

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85. "You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. "
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You should probably do some actual research into the case because you're wildly off base here. You absolutely have no knowledge of the case if that's your conclusion, especially in light of the entirely laughable premise you used in your conclusion.

you're just plain wrong.

  

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mistermaxxx08
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73. "funny how some folks said the same thing about the woman defending Kobe ..."
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and Cosby's lawyer is the truth and she got a good chance at pulling it out for him.

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75. "but is this even rape?"
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Cosby told her he wanted the ass. She came to his room and took the pills on her own. There was no intercourse

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117. "wow."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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84. "I can't think of a lawyer who was widely vilified for representing their..."
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No matter the crime and no matter the outcome.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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Damali
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93. "ABSOLUTELY NOT. she is doing her job as an officer of the court."
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i expect her to give his defense everything she has, as all of us deserve.

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Cold Truth
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101. "Well said. Wouldn't we all want her at our table in court?"
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Should any of us find ourselves facing serious charges for any reason, we would all be relieved to have someone defend us fervently.

I think people forget that in these situations.

  

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106. "she bomb..Galveston TX Stand the fk UP....."
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you ON now

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118. "She's just doing her job and getting paid in capital letters "
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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