Caught the 2nd episode, didn't know there was two today.

Louie bombing was hilarious, him not knowing what to do with the chick was great, the disbelief at them suing him was awesome, But him knocking out the shit cuz he was ticklish was amazing!

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Him in the sex shop and his back going out was too funny, it looked like he was fronting out of embarrassment. It was really cool showing the little old lady helping him in a cab, I appreciate it was trying to show that New York isn't the stereotype people think it is, that there a good people there.

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>Him in the sex shop and his back going out was too funny, it
>looked like he was fronting out of embarrassment. It was
>really cool showing the little old lady helping him in a cab,
>I appreciate it was trying to show that New York isn't the
>stereotype people think it is, that there a good people there.
>
>
>Louie's daughters are gold, those two girls want to run his
>life.


Two moments that were great. His daughter doing her homework assignment at the table, and Louie says "Dear AIDS, Please cut it out." The other was the conversation at the card table about masturbating. I had tears from laughing so hard at that scene.

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people 5k a month for the rest of his life.

I found the first one okay. I can grow tired of the poker game.



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I found the first one okay. I can grow tired of the poker game.



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I'm almost surprised this show is even popular because of how absurdist and surreal it can get. It's like, he's just trying to make 30-minute art films disguised as episodes of a comedy show. A lot of times it doesn't even try to be explicitly funny.

Like, that first episode was kind of on some After Hours/Eyes Wide Shut shit where it has dream-like rhythms but it never explicitly calls itself a dream. (The second one was like this too, but to a lesser extent.) All of the seemingly disjointed scenes come together in the end though, sort of. It was actually a pretty smart episode the more I think about it...

The second episode was great, too. I love how Seinfeld was willing to go on the show and play such a douche bag version of himself...

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Louie's whole conversation with the lawyer was incredible.

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I'm reminded of Louie with his accountant last year, explaining why he can't afford a million-dollar house.

I didn't like the first episode as much, but Charles Grodin's doctor was one of the best things I've seen in a long time.

i loved his nonchalance at completely dismissing louie's back pain.

his interactions with this daughters are always excellent.


"I would never do that to you. I'd never remove your burden."


"Yuck"
"Just, go away. Get out of here."


"Dear AIDS. Cut it out."


and damn near everything in the Model ep killed. from insulting the trillionaires and their slaves to knocking her out, and then him being all happy at the end back at the bar.

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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

And the scene when he got back to his daughter on the subway platform... my heart was racing even though I knew they were gonna get back to her... he was way calmer than I would have been.

Also, was that the first time they had an uncensored "fuck" on there? (the fat girl episode)

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I had to rewind the DVR to make sure I heard it correctly.

I'm curious if he got a say in which episode they allowed the uncensored fuck.

It says it in the next eps after when the daughter leaves the train.

It would seems to me like the more "appropriate" would be in the second ep, but the use in the first eps was more impactful.

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That was great

And I'm glad the "fucked" wasn't bleeped, because if it were the effect would have been dulled

Also, apparently last night was the first part of the six-part Elevator story

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Give me a break Louie, a comedy show like this should challenge some of the PC liberal bullshit that's spouted all throughout the media nowadays, not promote it.

I have such a love-hate relationship with this show. Louis CK is funny and it's a very well made show, but some of the themes and character arcs are so annoying.

The Elevator episode was better, maybe Louie will develop a relationship with the niece? That'd be a good character arc

Trust me I'm no fan of the liberal gestapo (although I am liberal myself), but this wasn't that.

don't get me wrong, it was a well written and acted scene. it eloquently argued how superficial our culture is and how certain people are looked down upon.

but....that's the way the world is is. and i would have stood up and applauded if Louie retorted by saying, "well if you hate being fat so much stop doing bang bangs and run on a treadmill 30min a day. truth is you like eating and being lazy more than the sacrifices it takes to be happy and healthy". granted the Louie character would never say that because he has no backbone, but I could see Louis CK doing a whole stand up bit criticizing fat people for bitching about being fat.

it just seemed way too pandering to the whole fat acceptance and rationalization of being unhealthy that's going on nowadays.

I don't know that lady's cholesterol level and blood pressure, so I am not going to pretend I care about her health.

>don't get me wrong, it was a well written and acted scene. it
>eloquently argued how superficial our culture is and how
>certain people are looked down upon.

>but....that's the way the world is is. and i would have stood
>up and applauded if Louie retorted by saying, "well if you
>hate being fat so much stop doing bang bangs and run on a
>treadmill 30min a day. truth is you like eating and being lazy
>more than the sacrifices it takes to be happy and healthy".
>granted the Louie character would never say that because he
>has no backbone, but I could see Louis CK doing a whole stand
>up bit criticizing fat people for bitching about being fat.
>
>it just seemed way too pandering to the whole fat acceptance
>and rationalization of being unhealthy that's going on
>nowadays.

>but....that's the way the world is is. and i would have stood
>up and applauded if Louie retorted by saying, "well if you
>hate being fat so much stop doing bang bangs and run on a
>treadmill 30min a day. truth is you like eating and being lazy
>more than the sacrifices it takes to be happy and healthy".

This is the popular view; shoot there�s billions flying in made off just to help you do just that (or short cut your way into it). Not like Louie needs to reiterate it.

The problem is

1)For some people it�s not as easy as they eat too much and don�t exercise enough
2)Since it�s a vice that affects physical appearance, we have no problem being extra judgy.

I drink a lot, eat badly (even though I am of a good weight), kind of wasting my potential in a few different ways, and tend to be lazy left to my own devices. I can�t really be mad at someone who�s got their life together but likes to eat a lot�pick your poison and your flaws. Unfortunately it�s a little to socially acceptable(disproportionately so) to publically shame someone if they are fucking up in the weight category

When Louie tried to compliment her as not fat Imho was the crux of the skit, it�s such a shameful thing that he knew to publically acknowledge it might hurt her feelings, despite it�s a preposterous thing to say/ignore.

>This is the popular view; shoot there�s billions flying in
>made off just to help you do just that (or short cut your way
>into it). Not like Louie needs to reiterate it.

He could've plugged some health consciousness in there. America is the fattest nation in the world with growing obesity and diabetes rates. Instead of only providing the opportunity to defend obesity and urge America to stop shaming them, he could have ALSO presented the fact that healthy living could lead to less obesity and more happiness or acceptance.

>The problem is
>
>1)For some people it�s not as easy as they eat too much and
>don�t exercise enough
>2)Since it�s a vice that affects physical appearance, we have
>no problem being extra judgy.

1. Then those people shouldn't be complaining about how much it sucks to be fat. Take personal responsibility instead of creating this victim mentality.
2. It's a cold world, especially in the dating market. People are judged for their height, weight, ethnicity, etc. all the time. We only have power to change one of those attributes.


>When Louie tried to compliment her as not fat Imho was the
>crux of the skit, it�s such a shameful thing that he knew to
>publically acknowledge it might hurt her feelings, despite
>it�s a preposterous thing to say/ignore.

Yeah but he said that because he knew that if he said, "yeah you really are fat" she might have a horrible reaction because people are really sensitive about it. That was a trick question. Not to mention the hypocrisy of her criticizing his appearance and then trying to tell him he has no right to criticize hers.

I know it's a sensitive topic and I've obviously struck a nerve (as you can see below) by not giving a PC answer about it. I don't believe fat people should be shamed for their weight, at the end of the day people have their own lives to live and it's their business. Yet I think people should be encouraged to make healthy decisions and I can't pity somebody complaining about the dating market instead of trying to change themselves for the better.

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You ain't strike no nerve with me, btw. I'm in pretty damn good shape. I'm not not mad at Louie for exploring something.
>
>>This is the popular view; shoot there�s billions flying in
>>made off just to help you do just that (or short cut your
>way
>>into it). Not like Louie needs to reiterate it.
>
>He could've plugged some health consciousness in there.
>America is the fattest nation in the world with growing
>obesity and diabetes rates. Instead of only providing the
>opportunity to defend obesity and urge America to stop shaming
>them, he could have ALSO presented the fact that healthy
>living could lead to less obesity and more happiness or
>acceptance.
>
>>The problem is
>>
>>1)For some people it�s not as easy as they eat too much and
>>don�t exercise enough
>>2)Since it�s a vice that affects physical appearance, we
>have
>>no problem being extra judgy.
>
>1. Then those people shouldn't be complaining about how much
>it sucks to be fat. Take personal responsibility instead of
>creating this victim mentality.
>2. It's a cold world, especially in the dating market. People
>are judged for their height, weight, ethnicity, etc. all the
>time. We only have power to change one of those attributes.
>
>
>>When Louie tried to compliment her as not fat Imho was the
>>crux of the skit, it�s such a shameful thing that he knew to
>>publically acknowledge it might hurt her feelings, despite
>>it�s a preposterous thing to say/ignore.
>
>Yeah but he said that because he knew that if he said, "yeah
>you really are fat" she might have a horrible reaction because
>people are really sensitive about it. That was a trick
>question. Not to mention the hypocrisy of her criticizing his
>appearance and then trying to tell him he has no right to
>criticize hers.
>
>I know it's a sensitive topic and I've obviously struck a
>nerve (as you can see below) by not giving a PC answer about
>it. I don't believe fat people should be shamed for their
>weight, at the end of the day people have their own lives to
>live and it's their business. Yet I think people should be
>encouraged to make healthy decisions and I can't pity somebody
>complaining about the dating market instead of trying to
>change themselves for the better.

and remember, Louie controls EVERYTHING on this show. Those were statements he wanted to make.

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I didn't hear a fat acceptance agenda being promoted.

I thought part of what was worthwhile about the conversation between Louie and the woman was there was a discussion happening about appetites: what people consume, desire, and why. I thought the woman was pretty up front about where she was coming from. Nor was she asking for pity or acceptance. I think the woman saw that Louie had the ability to see people for who they are...complicated, not only "one thing."

We live in a society that, in part, manufactures and sells "food" that's addictive, unwholesome, and unhealthy. People can "consume" lots of "food" and still be starved, want more. What do people want? To be loved. Happy. Needed. To care for others. Friendship. Relationship. The woman was really honest about that. To that end, I thought the implied (?) question asked about Louie's appetites concerning women, connection, and dating was great.

In my opinion, many men are served a constant "diet" of sexual fare that can:

--create a dull, desensitized, sexual "palate"
--strip them of the ability to experience a wide range of satisfying sexual experiences
--objectify women as "things" which serve as an extension of a man's power, prowess, success

The end result? "Starved" men who crave unhealthy garbage, who find it difficult to recognize, *want*, value, or feel the gift of real, fully satisfying, human intimacy and connection.

Attraction, of course, is subjective and can be a mystery. But some of the "fare" fed to the male viewing public (which is presented as some sort of objective standard) is boring and predictable, yet served as the best exciting must-have, desirable, thing ever. Of course, that encourages unrealistic expectations and desires that men continually indulge in that make them *unhappy*. Louie almost stood there and didn't see a really good thing.

Eventually, men can choose to grow up, heal, and face real life. Or not. If they don't want to, there's all kinds of things out there which can be abused, which gladly oblige and rob men blind of their money, time, and dignity. After a while, I imagine exploitation and meeting broken "hot" women who are navigating the same inhumane "world" is a bummer. Self-induced heartbreak isn't fun, and so I think some men actually realistically re-asses what they want and why.

I saw Louie doing that in the episode.

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that woman really wasn't speaking for all fat girls

She was speaking *Louis C.K.'s* words on how he feels when he disses fat girls

She essentially is berating Louie/Louis for being a dick to fat women, when all he does is go on "Bang Bang" missions and have the nerve to be selective when it comes to rejecting women who are clearly into him (and he clearly has a rapport with), not to mention back out of opportunities to start losing weight in order to be with the women he thinks he really deserves

She is Louis C.K. calling both the character Louie and Louis C.K. himself a fucking hypocrite

At least that's how I read it

Louis is able to work through his shit and have FX foot the bill, and also have us watch it, which is great, and only the dumbest and hackiest of artists would turn down the opportunity to do so

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>that woman really wasn't speaking for all fat girls
>
>She was speaking *Louis C.K.'s* words on how he feels when he
>disses fat girls


I like this reading. It's the only way it works for me.



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- The "fat" actress had some impeccable comedic timing and was just great to watch. I'd put her in my show.

- I enjoyed her little speech too, I enjoyed every aspect of it. As a society we treat overweight folks like they're next to nothing. I enjoyed it.

- That dream shit and the daughter just jumping off the train man, I was just imagining Max doing that and was tense the entire time. I hate that feeling man.

- Watching those two dudes do a Bang-Bang made my tummy hurt. My wife and I were both sort of on the couch speechless.

- I'm wondering where this elevator thing will go. I believe in Louie enough to think it'll be great whatever it is.

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I wanted to like it because it's something I never heard before, but I couldn't get over the fact that, well Louie isn't a fat woman.

I've got a real authenticity problem because I wonder what is the basis for him speaking for a fat woman?

I'd be totally fine if it turns out that he has heard that speech from a girl, or if a girl wrote that portion of it, but if that's not the case then to me it's Kathryn Stockett doing first person narrative's of black maids in the Help.

Do I think writers can only write from their personal point of view? Of course not, but I do generally hate when one group attempts to speak for another group that is perfectly capable on speaking for themselves.

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Or maybe Pamela Adlon wrote that part.

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And honest to some people then should we really be worried about where it came from?

Then on the other hand I don't want someone who hasn't lived my experiences speaking for them in a way that others would perceive as real.

So i'm stuck, because I was moved by the scene, genuinely moved. Like I had to go back and look at the way i've dealt with certain situations in life. So in that respect it was really effective and impactful writing.

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>And honest to some people then should we really be worried
>about where it came from?

I am not worried where it came from but moreso worried if it is authentic. If fat chicks see that and say thank you for expressing what I have always felt, it's cool.

>
>Then on the other hand I don't want someone who hasn't lived
>my experiences speaking for them in a way that others would
>perceive as real.

Yeah I think some folks above said it was soo real and I wonder why they say that since they aren't fat women.

Ever see the movie Life is Hot in Cracktown? If you haven't don't bother, it's terrible. It's what a person who isn't from the hood imagines what the hood is like. The worst thing about it is in the reviews people talking about how REAL it was.

It's a pet peeve of mine. Underminded the movie Don Jon for me.
I've been on this issue since the movie COLORS.

>
>So i'm stuck, because I was moved by the scene, genuinely
>moved. Like I had to go back and look at the way i've dealt
>with certain situations in life. So in that respect it was
>really effective and impactful writing.


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Also, the wonderful actress who played the part said the speech was written by Louis himself, and changed very little from when she read for the part to when they shot it

Also, he got the sole writing credit for the episode. Not sure why there's talk about "writers" or "Pamela Adlon" helping out.

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that's all i really saw it as

all he did was write a character who expressed an opinion. yeah, he could be saying some things here, and addressing some of his own hypocrisy, but i don't think he wrote her rant as a means to become HuffPo's champion for fat women.

Ok this is in the Daily Beast. A plus size's model commentary on the episode.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/14/plus-size-model-jennifer-maitland-get-over-the-word-fat.html

I think her remarks are waay more off key than Louie's because she tries to make the argument that being fat isn't such a big detriment to dating but she is kind of full of shit because she is actually a very attractive woman. She is a model for gods sakes. Of course she can say being fat isn't a big deal.


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there were a few beats where it could have ended but then it kicked back in and kept going and going and going.

the actress was really natural, believable and likable throughout the episode, but i that overly long soliloquy just got less and less believable the longer it went on.

that speech frankly ruined an otherwise great episode

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...on another note i LOVED how he treated ole girl from his past...

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EVERY bit

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and it was even better than I expected. Just perfectly written and performed. All of that history and baggage in his expression, and the how that conversation went down was just brutal. So funny how she was putting him down at the same time.

i thought the way she left was jacked up, and wasn't that irritated with her b4, but when she came back, i realized that she's a horrible person

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But she was the only woman outside of his ex that he spent any real time with. The only woman whom he would have intimate conversations with. So he thought he really felt all this stuff for her. She treated him like a trusty dog that would always be there. She didn't really respect him in any way.

She felt terrible about the way things went for her when she moved away, so she was like Louie will make me feel better at least he'll always want me.

Then all of sudden he saw her for how she truly saw him and was absolutely disgusted and blown away by how she treated him all at the same time.

I think some of that also played into his full on trip when he found out ole girl was going back to Hungary.

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it was like a veil had been lifted for him...his reaction to the "going back to hungary" thing was SO real...i felt bad for him and damn near applauded when they came to let him know he misunderstood...

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I was happy for him though, I mean he'll get amonth. Knowing Louie he'll fuck it up some kind of way, but still. He gets a month.

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she was always busting his balls, but he seemed to find it endearing in a way. and she was at least straight up with him about not having a shot before. (well, besides the bath thing),

but her entitled, almost bullyish reaction to him not doing backflips over her basically telling him "you're my last resort. lucky you!" had me pretty much re-evaluate everything with her.

>"you're my last
>resort. lucky you!"

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buying her jewelry and all kinds of dumb shit, while she would "awww how sweet" thank me and let me be her loyal chump while she started seeing some another dude and would call me and ask me advice about him...

months of that doormat shit until i met my first real girlfriend, and we stopped talking. forward another year i'm at a party, with a new girl i was seeing who was cute as fuck, and she happens to be there, and she had gained about 30 pounds. it couldn't have been more perfect.

she calls me a day later we talk for like a while and she starts going on about how she's always liked me, and i just cut her off, in the middle like "Yeah, i gotta go. nice talking to you"

*does happy dance*

its on the short list of victories in my life


>>"you're my last
>>resort. lucky you!"
>
>There is no greater feeling than saying, "Nah." That scene
>captured it perfectly.

Another great hour of television. Also, I'd watch a Todd Barry spinoff.

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