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>Chuck didn't broach the subject in his house though, Jimmy
>did. Chuck figured he was doing Jimmy a favor by offering a
>very generous split of the expected case settlement (Jimmy was
>clearly pleased with the upfront and post-settlement fees).
>For better or worse, he obviously never wanted Jimmy to find
>out his true feelings about working with him.
Good point, I forgot Jimmy initiated that conversation. Still tho, even the fact that Chuck pulled the stunt that he did is fucked up beyond belief, so the point still kinda stands.
>And yeah definitely, the way he stated his feelings was cold
>blooded and mean spirited. But look at it from Chuck's
>perspective... he's obviously an incredibly well-regarded
>partner of a successful law firm, he was getting major praise
>from what will likely be opposing counsel on the case and he
>feels the "law is sacred". It's not a stretch either to think
>he came up at a university like Cornell or Harvard and built
>HHM from the ground up doing things the "right" way.
I can't look at it that way, just not in my blood. Jimmy may have a shady past but just because he didn't go to one of the "prestigious" law schools doesn't make his diploma or passing of the bar any less legitimate. I hate that type of thinking and hate people who think that way, so this doesn't make me feel bad for Chuck in any way shape or form. Fact is, Jimmy put himself through law school while working full time, so he took the best opporunity he could via night classes. This still enabled him to obtain a law degree and study for the bar, which he did, on his own, and passed. If Chuck thinks the "law is sacred" and is so rigid about rules in that way, he should acknowledge that a law degree is a legit law degree, no matter where from. He can get the fuck outta here with his high horse bullshit.
>There's no question Jimmy busted his ass taking care of Chuck,
>but in Chuck's eyes that's basically still "Slippin' Jimmy"
>working in the mailroom. Whenever it comes to actual lawyer
>work, he sees Jimmy skirting the edges of the law with the
>billboard stunt, rooting around in the trash can and writing
>letters of intent in the bathroom. That's the Jimmy he
>doesn't want in the law firm where he's a partner, and with
>his name on it. I don't think you can discount that aspect of
>Chuck.
Now this is a point I can understand. The billboard stunt would certainly make me think twice about wanting to work with him, too, in that it would be potential proof that he hadn't changed all that much. That's a solid point. But the writing letters of intent in the bathroom was a time limitation thing IMO, not a shady lawyer thing. Same with digging through the trash. Again, the "law" that Chuck holds so sacred, allegedly, states that if the trash is not locked it is fair game. You can shake your head at it but Jimmy broke no laws and I don't think he "cut any corners." The case wouldn't exist if he hadn't dug through the trash, and Chuck, for all his pretentious BS, took the time to piece together the trash that Jimmy collected so he couldn't have been all *that* upset about it, though he wanted to use it as ammo when it suited him later.
>I think you're misinterpreting those scenes. Yes, Jimmy put
>in work. But he absolutely took shortcuts. Chuck told him to
>take it easy with gathering evidence but Jimmy barged his way
>into the bathroom. And rooted around in the trash can. Not
>to mention the billboard incident.
Besides the billboard incident, I wouldn't call any of these shortcuts. Had he not legally gone to the bathroom, with permission, and did what he did, there'd be no case. Same with digging through the trash. How else was he supposed to gather that evidence? It may be a little unorthodox but he did nothing illegal and I would not consider it "taking shortcuts." I consider it "doing the right thing" to make a case against some people who are breaking the law. If the law is so sacred, there are no shortcuts (barring any illegal activity in order to obtain it, of course) in holding those people who are breaking the law responsible for their actions.
>But it was Jimmy's work that compelled Chuck to work with him
>in the first place. He respected the hustle by helping him
>piece together the docs, overcame his fear for the token
>presence in the face to face and helped prepare him for future
>steps in the case. There was no jealousy regarding the case,
>he WANTED Jimmy to succeed. But once he realized the tactics
>the other side was using he knew it was impossible to get it
>off the ground if they were the only ones working on it.
Really, what you're saying here, is that Chuck saw the potential money they could make off the case and decided that he'd look the other way on stuff he saw as "shady" to get that money. So to me, he's no better than Jimmy in that regard. Once the dollar signs start flashing he's willing to ignore the "sacred law," too.
>Jealousy is the entirely wrong way to interpret that scene.
>The reason he exploded is because he knew he got caught with
>the phone and that Jimmy figured out why he didn't get the
>job. The case had nothing to do with why he exploded at
>Jimmy.
Maybe jealousy was the wrong word, I just can't side with Chuck fully in this situation.
>>It was a bad look for Chuck, who should be way above that
>type
>>of reaction.
>
>I disagree. I think the writers firmly established just how
>much Chuck cares about the integrity of law and of his firm,
>and bringing Jimmy into *his* world was an affront to both.
>
>Chuck's words cut deep, yes, but entirely consistent with his
>character.
I never said it was inconsistent with his character...I just think maybe people may be thinking too highly of Chuck when in reality he's got his own shortcomings as well.
Also - unless I missed something, *he* himself brought Jimmy into his world by continuously bailing him out. He could've said "last straw" after the last arrest but he took Jimmy at his word at that time, that he'd get it together, and therefore played a hand in bringing him into his world. ----------------------------------------
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