------IN UR OPINION, WHO IS THE BEST PRODUCER OF ALL TIME??----


and why?

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i cannot name one producer with so many classics. it seems that every great emcee that spit over his beats, stepped up their game.
His work with Gangstarr, Jeru da Damaja, Nas, M.O.P., Jay-Z, Biggie, and Group Home was great.
His name automatically provokes anticipation.
Little details like his edited sounds and his scratched choruses are cherries on top of his stellar production.

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I would have to say premier because of the volume of work that he has done. although i prefer Pete Rock & Large Professors music, Dr Dre is good too but he hasnt release as much stuff as most producers so I wouldn't put him in the numberone spot.

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his adaption to everything is what does it for me


dude bust out some r&b and i dont even know it till somebody say it is


so many more reasons but that it for me

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RZA and pete rock for the simple fact that he aint have shit...all he had was a sp..thats 12 seconds of sampling that you gotta flip and try to make into a dope song...and they did it...not everytime...but 9 times outta 10...would you be able to make a dope song if you could only sample 12 seconds of it...?

and Premo just cause of the heat he pump...my mans style aint changed and he been in the game longer than i been livin...so many classics...and he is real disticntive...and his mixing is damn near perfect...

"Stick to your equipment. Don't let nobody tell you you cant make beats on a trash can with some sticks. This is Hip-Hop. If you can drop 40 points a night in Chuck Taylors, do it. You dont need Nike Shox."

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Primo invented a style and a technique that so many people emulate.

But Dilla and Rza developed a signature style, and managed to get huge mileage out of them and continuously innovate for a decade. 2004 Dilla didn't sound the same as 1994 Dilla, nor can you say the same about Rza. Yet, at the core, they still had their signature.

Your average producer doesn't measure up to this test. They tend to burn bright and short, and run out of ideas quick -- even if they can make serious hits.

A lot of cats entering the game late, hard to measure as well. Ask again in 5 years.

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Best production crew though is organized noize

As far as "hip hop" producing, aka beat making... Imma say Darkchild, Rodney Jerkins, overall. But since he is more r&b, for str8 hip hop imma say Havoc off the stregth of hell on earth and murda muzik especially.

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Dr. Dre is #1

RZA is #2.

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Quincy Jones, Rick Rubin, Lee "Scratch" Perry, George Clinton, Berry Gordy, and George Martin. These are the roots of producers that pushed the envelope so music can be what it is today. Dilla, Primo, and Dre are the followers of these men. Much props to them, but regonize the past.

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I couldn't agree more. I'd like to add Jam and Lewis, Gamble and Huff, Willie Mitchell, Marvin Gaye and Masters At Work to your list of those in the highest echelons of production.

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Primo, Dre, Pete Rock, and marley marl are better

i've never worn a backpack and Doggystyle is one of my fav LPs of all time so get off that nonsense.

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no one wears backpacks

?

reason u say? go listen to Doggystyle, The Chronic, Chronic 2001 and you'll see why

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1) He invented a style which spawned a genre within a genre (in both hip hop and R&B).

2) After Timbaland, he's probably the most often imitated producer.

3) He switched his style at least three times throughout his career... The first was a real laid back bass heavy sound, real subtle but pronounced enough to have your head thumping. Like the stuff he did with a Tribe Called Quest and Slum Village. The second was a more futuristic, electronic style which had a few elements of Daft Punk and Kraftwerk in there. Examples of this are Slum Village's Raise It Up, his contributions Common's Electric Circus LP (even Funky For You from LWFC), his work on the Jaylib album, and of course the infamous beattapes around this 2002-20005 era (which a large amount of ppl managed to get a hold of).

The next phase was the bomb squad orientated sound he displayed on Donuts. This style was like a 360 as he took it back to basics as a producer. But not only was he showing how you can make amazing music with simple means, he was also creating whole songs out of snippets and leaving messages throughout the songs.

Dilla was the greatest while alive and even now he's still the greatest. Cats borrow/bite offa him all the time (i'll admit to it), and you can hear it. In a sense he gave us Hi-Tek, 9th Wonder, S1, Illmind, Nottz, Supa Dav West and HAD an influence on a whole bunch of other producers who may or may not acknowledge this.

4) he was also the greatest producer to ever touch a mic... that's to boot.

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>1) He invented a style which spawned a genre within a genre
>(in both hip hop and R&B).
>

Pete Rock (who was Dilla's Idol),Q-tip, and Shaheed Muhammad would disagree with you.

>2) After Timbaland, he's probably the most often imitated
>producer.
>

Not in the industry. Only on Okayplayer.

>3) He switched his style at least three times throughout his
>career... The first was a real laid back bass heavy sound,
>real subtle but pronounced enough to have your head thumping.
>Like the stuff he did with a Tribe Called Quest and Slum
>Village. The second was a more futuristic, electronic style
>which had a few elements of Daft Punk and Kraftwerk in there.
>Examples of this are Slum Village's Raise It Up, his
>contributions Common's Electric Circus LP (even Funky For You
>from LWFC), his work on the Jaylib album, and of course the
>infamous beattapes around this 2002-20005 era (which a large
>amount of ppl managed to get a hold of).
>

Admirable, but strong enough to make him the greatest in his era or the greastest of all time.

>The next phase was the bomb squad orientated sound he
>displayed on Donuts. This style was like a 360 as he took it
>back to basics as a producer. But not only was he showing how
>you can make amazing music with simple means, he was also
>creating whole songs out of snippets and leaving messages
>throughout the songs.
>

Bomb Squad? A couple of tracks, but thats it. Throw RZA in there too. Heck, throw in the late 80's and 90's based hip-hop sampling in there.

Dilla was showing how to make an hip-hop album, beat-wise, of yester-year with Donuts. There was nothing new under the sun on that album. It was refreshing in that it was great and it brought back a style of Hip-hop production that has been either long forgotten or poorly imitated.

>Dilla was the greatest while alive and even now he's still the
>greatest.

Nope. Primo, RZA, Dr. Dre, Erick Sermon, DJ Quik, and Madlib beg to differ.

>Cats borrow/bite offa him all the time (i'll admit
>to it), and you can hear it. In a sense he gave us Hi-Tek, 9th
>Wonder, S1, Illmind, Nottz, Supa Dav West

Dilla didn't "give" us these guys:

9th Wonder? Nope.

Nottz? Nope.

Hi-Tek? Nope.

Theses gusy are great in their own right and have their own distinct style.

>and HAD an influence
>on a whole bunch of other producers who may or may not
>acknowledge this.
>

Only the myspace cats on okayplayer.

>4) he was also the greatest producer to ever touch a mic...
>that's to boot.
>

RZA, Q-Tip, Redman, and Scarface disagrees with this.

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everything i wrote is valid. pete himself says in the latest XXL that him and dilla were in the same vein only dilla took it to a higher level. Tip also speaks of Dilla as a genius. as for RZA and em, pleaze. I think YOU'RE the one livin in the past if u think RZA still rocks shit in 2006. He was good while in his prime but even then he never reached Dilla's level. Madlib is the closest and his is an acquired taste.

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>everything i wrote is valid.

*yawns* lol

> pete himself says in the latest
>XXL that him and dilla were in the same vein only dilla took
>it to a higher level.

Pete also thinks SSII was a great album. lol

Dilla never made anything that came close to Main Ingredient or Mecca and the Soul Brotha

His closest is Donuts where he had to bite RZA.

> Tip also speaks of Dilla as a genius.

Tip says a lot of things that aren't true. That is one of them.

>as
>for RZA and em, pleaze. I think YOU'RE the one livin in the
>past if u think RZA still rocks shit in 2006.

Aren't we talking careers? Dilla ain't seeing RZA on his worst day. Its funny cuz Dilla's best work was biting RZA on Donuts. Dilla knows who the real is. RZA is scoring movies man. Get the f*ck out of here.

>He was good
>while in his prime but even then he never reached Dilla's
>level.

lmao! RZA's whole 1994-1995 output alone is laughing at you.

> Madlib is the closest and his is an acquired taste.
>

JayLib. Nuff said. Its why even some of Dilla fans say you could hear Madlib's influence on him. Madlib crushes Dilla. His range is far superior than Dilla's man.

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another poster said that his production was the "soundtrack to his
thoughts"

I feel the same way.

His music just has an effect on me that no other producer has.
Maybe Quincy Jones.

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Or, if we're talking about the hip-hop definition of the term... Dilla. Or Pete Rock.

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alota y'all aint really heard most of his stuff. all his instrumental CD's, or didnt even peep his logic. This guy is a complete genius, the way he conducts music. He was really ahead of his time and its gonna be a while to kats actually catch up. of course there are other great producers, but Dilla is also a personal favorite cause of the influence and style he had on music making. This nigga was truly dedicated to making good music. Not just some producer who only shows up to make a couple of beats for the album, bullshit and go home. I think next in line is Madlib. very similar. he dodged the mainstream to keep making good music regardless of who thinks what about it. how many kats would dodge the mainstream and give up money to make different music. Dilla always had his hustle on. going mainstream really doesnt give an artist/producer much freedom to make music cause the label dictates that. Dilla always the music flow freely, not just make beats that all sound the same cause kats liked it. that really has an influence on me. and i get soo heated when kats hate on Dilla, even since he passed.

R.I.P. Dilla

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every track hes ever done is flawless (some times not the emcee)

dre is madd overrated has he ever done a track with out a co-producer

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The best of all time?

I'm going to have to go with Pete Rock on this one with Premier a close 2nd. The reason why I say that is because Pete Rock is like the grandfather of the jazzy, hard drum snare/kick beats, J-Dilla, MF Doom, 9th Wonder & them cats take after P R. You can just put a Pete Rock beat CD on and listen to the instrumentals all day. Dude is just ill, plain and simple, vintage hip hop right there...

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>------IN UR OPINION, WHO IS THE BEST PRODUCER OF ALL
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kinda hard either dilla or 9th their beats are different and when i produce thats what i aim for different but still hip hop tho my fav is 9th but i'm not sure which one is better

>>------IN UR OPINION, WHO IS THE BEST PRODUCER OF ALL
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>kinda hard either dilla or 9th their beats are different and
>when i produce thats what i aim for different but still hip
>hop tho my fav is 9th but i'm not sure which one is better

I'm wit you on that son, but I don't think 9th is the best ever yet. He's surely the best right now, that's non debatable...

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Even thuogh he haz had some ghozt producerz for many yearz, & he might not be in makin' trackz in abundence like some otha katz or hazn't made an impact lyke he did back in da day but he still haz some crazy skillz in production.

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with Premo in a really, really, really close 2nd

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they REALLY knew how to put things together perfectly. the mizell brothers are also pretty amazing.

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gets honorable mention...for his work with steely dan, diana ross, and joe cocker...

quincy is a genius.

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i just wish he had a chance to work with a wider variety of artists. Because he did not have a Snoop the same way Dre did. You need a GREAT artist to make a GREAT impact with. NWA was cool but the Dre/Snoop combo was what earned him the genuis title.

followed by Timbaland

No I'm just kidding, I would have to say Premier followed by Pete Rock, RZA, & Dilla, all brought different flavors to the game, each unique & ill.