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"This is what we are going to do, since folks read in hea"
Wed Mar-16-05 10:28 PM by brokenchains79

  

          

I am going to list a particular topic in the subject line. People will reply to that subject with reputable books, for interested readers on the subject.

The criteria for reputable is as follows
1. Makes a significant contribution to the body of knowledge.
2. Has not been supplanted by a more recent work making the old invalid or obsolete.

If this project proves to be successful, this can be a resource for offering people a wider view of important issues. I'm sure I will not cover all areas of inquiry, so sit on it for a day and then feel free to post your own topics. Depending on the topic some will be more specific than others.

*Edit* Where topics are vague post whatever is applicable to "activism"

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Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
Education Reform in the United States
Mar 16th 2005
1
Anything by Paulo Freire
Mar 17th 2005
59
Jonathan Kozol- Savage Inequalities
Mar 17th 2005
83
The White Architects of Black Education
Mar 17th 2005
88
Life in Schools
Mar 18th 2005
98
Why School's cant Solve our Problems
Mar 20th 2005
114
"Radical Equations: Math Literacy and Civil Rights" by
Apr 28th 2005
151
Learning While Black - Janice E. Hale
Apr 30th 2005
158
Globalization
Mar 16th 2005
2
Out of control- Zbigniew Brzezinski
Mar 16th 2005
8
RE: Globalization
Mar 17th 2005
53
Rise to Globalism
Mar 18th 2005
100
RE: Globalization
Mar 28th 2005
122
RE: Globalization
Apr 07th 2005
133
U.S. History (no particular group)
Mar 16th 2005
3
People's history of the united states
Mar 17th 2005
54
Civil War (3 volume set)
Mar 18th 2005
99
Lies my teacher told me
Mar 19th 2005
105
Howard Zinn- A people's history of the U.S.
Apr 11th 2005
136
Pre-colonial African History
Mar 16th 2005
4
good idea.. Blues People, leRoi Jones / Amiri baraka
Mar 17th 2005
72
malcolm had a book on Afro-American History
Mar 17th 2005
73
RE: malcolm had a book on Afro-American History
Mar 18th 2005
89
      true,,, whats the name & publisher
Mar 19th 2005
108
Whatever you can find by John Henrik Clarke
Mar 18th 2005
95
anything by Cheik Anta Diop
Apr 28th 2005
155
Re-inventing Africa by Ifi Amadiume
Jun 27th 2005
167
Pre-Enlightenment Euro History
Mar 16th 2005
5
RE: Pre-Enlightenment Euro History
Mar 17th 2005
55
      RE: Pre-Enlightenment Euro History
Mar 19th 2005
112
           Almost exactly what you guessed
Mar 20th 2005
116
Asian History (I dont know shit about none of it)
Mar 16th 2005
6
Fairbank is good
Mar 17th 2005
85
RE: Asian History (I dont know shit about none of it)
Mar 19th 2005
113
Pre-columbus history of the western hemisphere
Mar 16th 2005
7
RE: Pre-columbus history of the western hemisphere
Mar 18th 2005
90
Ancient civilizations
Mar 16th 2005
9
Civilization or Barbarism?
Mar 17th 2005
60
Christianity before the roman empire
Mar 16th 2005
10
Wisdom of the Desert by Thomas Merton
Mar 29th 2005
126
Christ was born, did his teaching, and died all within
Apr 28th 2005
152
Dr. Ben: African Origins of the Major Western Religions
Apr 28th 2005
156
Socialism/Marxism (the most necessary readings)
Mar 16th 2005
11
RE: Socialism/Marxism (the most necessary readings)
Mar 19th 2005
110
      RE: Socialism/Marxism (the most necessary readings)
Mar 28th 2005
123
           RE: Socialism/Marxism (the most necessary readings)
Mar 28th 2005
124
Islamic History.
Mar 16th 2005
12
read about Rumi. Translated by Coleman barks
Mar 17th 2005
74
What books on Islamic History?
Mar 21st 2005
117
And Muhammed was His Messenger by AnneMarie Schimmel
Apr 30th 2005
160
The Early History of Islam by Sayyid Safdar Husayn
Apr 30th 2005
161
Cultural Anthropology.
Mar 16th 2005
14
"Power of Myth" by Joseph Campbell is a great start.
Mar 17th 2005
75
Here are some
Mar 30th 2005
127
Philosophy
Mar 16th 2005
16
"GOD: A biography" By Jack Miles.
Mar 16th 2005
52
"The Enlightened mind" by Stephen Mitchell
Mar 17th 2005
77
RE: Philosophy
Mar 17th 2005
56
The Lazaris Material
Mar 17th 2005
76
Global Economics
Mar 16th 2005
17
"Maestro": Greenspan's Fed and the American Boom
Mar 16th 2005
36
"Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" (demnow swipe)
Mar 17th 2005
78
Commanding Heights: The Battle for the World Economy
Mar 18th 2005
104
      You can actually still watch it on pbs.org and there are
Mar 19th 2005
106
           the whole thing?
Mar 19th 2005
109
Ifa
Mar 16th 2005
18
Economic Systems (past and present)
Mar 16th 2005
19
Blueprint for Black Power: A Moral,
Mar 17th 2005
69
      RE: Blueprint for Black Power: A Moral,
Mar 18th 2005
91
           Powerful stuff. First Pan Afrikanist book I read was Wilson.
Mar 18th 2005
94
Ecology
Mar 16th 2005
20
The "management" of World Resources
Mar 16th 2005
21
Pan-Africanism
Mar 16th 2005
22
RE: Pan-Africanism
Mar 18th 2005
92
      think it's..
Mar 18th 2005
103
European History. ( Colonial,post-industrial)
Mar 16th 2005
23
RE: European History. ( Colonial,post-industrial)
Mar 19th 2005
111
South and Latin America
Mar 16th 2005
24
The Violent Land
Mar 18th 2005
101
Cocaine- Dominic Streathfield
Mar 30th 2005
128
      How Mumbo Jumbo conquered the world
Mar 30th 2005
129
Ancient Mathematics. (Kemetic, etc...)
Mar 16th 2005
25
RE: Ancient Mathematics. (Kemetic, etc...)
Apr 11th 2005
135
Caribbean Islands
Mar 16th 2005
26
RASTA and resistance: From Marcus Garvey to
Mar 24th 2005
119
Cultural Expression in Art.
Mar 16th 2005
28
Nation Conscious Rap
Mar 17th 2005
61
Politics.
Mar 16th 2005
29
The New Nuclear Danger
Mar 18th 2005
102
Affirmative Acts- June Jordan
Apr 12th 2005
139
Jews
Mar 16th 2005
30
Hebrews of West Africa.
Mar 19th 2005
107
Technology, Culture, and Environment
Mar 16th 2005
31
The Condition of Postmodernity
Mar 17th 2005
62
The Press (media and it's influence)
Mar 16th 2005
32
Fighting words: Independant Journalists in Texas
Mar 16th 2005
34
"How to watch TV news" By Neil Postman and Steve Powers
Mar 16th 2005
35
i think Postman also wrote
Mar 17th 2005
67
      yeah, they both wrote that together. I heard it was good.
Mar 17th 2005
71
"Moyers on America: A Journalist and his times" (Moyers)
Mar 16th 2005
37
RE: The Press (media and it's influence)
Mar 17th 2005
63
"Manufacturing Consent" DVD
Mar 17th 2005
79
RE: The Press (media and it's influence)
Mar 18th 2005
93
Revolutionary Theory/Philosophy
Mar 16th 2005
33
"2000 seasons"- Armah.
Mar 17th 2005
68
I thought I was the only one who's read this book
Mar 30th 2005
131
      this book was required reading in activist 4 years ago.
Mar 30th 2005
132
Black Power, Stokely Carmichael/Kwame Toure
Mar 17th 2005
80
The wretched of the earth- fanon
Apr 12th 2005
140
"Revolutionary Suicide" by Huey P. Newton
Apr 28th 2005
153
Genocide/Population control
Mar 16th 2005
38
Season of Blood by Fergal Keene
Apr 30th 2005
159
Diet (Cultural Dynamics, Maximizing potential, Health tips)
Mar 16th 2005
39
"Helping your body cleans itself" Dr. Yakov Koyfman N.D.
Mar 16th 2005
51
Imperialism/White Supremacy
Mar 16th 2005
40
RE: Imperialism/White Supremacy
Mar 17th 2005
57
RE: Imperialism/White Supremacy
Mar 17th 2005
64
My top 10 books on the subject...
Mar 17th 2005
84
Psychology and Sociology
Mar 16th 2005
41
City of Quartz by Mike Davis
Mar 17th 2005
86
RE: Psychology and Sociology
Mar 28th 2005
125
      RE: Psychology and Sociology
Mar 30th 2005
130
Ethnic Struggle/Discourse.
Mar 16th 2005
42
" Blacks and Jews" Cornell West & Michael Lerner
Mar 16th 2005
43
"Open Mike" Michael Eric Dyson
Mar 16th 2005
44
"Race Matters" Cornell West.
Mar 16th 2005
45
"Negroes" Dr Larry Crawford aka Dr. Baruti.
Mar 16th 2005
46
"Excuses, Excuses" : The Politics of interracial coupling in
Mar 16th 2005
48
Black Macho and the Myth of a Superwoman- Michelle Wallace
Apr 11th 2005
137
Freedom Dreams- Robin D.G Kelly
Apr 12th 2005
138
Defending the Spirit- Randal Robinson
Apr 12th 2005
141
The Reckoning
Apr 12th 2005
142
When and Where I enter -Paula Giddings
Apr 12th 2005
143
Feminism
Mar 16th 2005
47
bell hooks and audre lorde
Mar 17th 2005
65
Andrea Dworkin "Intercourse"
Mar 17th 2005
81
Home Girls- A Black Feminist Anthology
Apr 12th 2005
144
Angela Davis' work
Apr 28th 2005
157
Manhood.
Mar 16th 2005
49
"Who's gonna take the weight?" Manhood, race, and power
Mar 16th 2005
50
Tar Baby by Toni Morrison
Mar 17th 2005
58
Hustler
Mar 17th 2005
87
It's not a book...
Mar 18th 2005
96
Blank Men Single Dangerous Obsolete
Mar 20th 2005
115
"ASAFO--A Warriors Guide To Manhood" by
Apr 28th 2005
154
Constructing the Black Masculine by Maurice O. Wallace
May 09th 2005
163
Magic and traditional spirituality.
Mar 17th 2005
66
Opening to Spirit
Mar 17th 2005
70
i can recommend a ton of books on this based on your particular interest
Mar 17th 2005
82
One Day My Soul Just Opened Up
Mar 18th 2005
97
it's some powerful shit in here.
Mar 21st 2005
118
nah, WE the powerful shit in here.... these are just BOOOKZ
Mar 24th 2005
120
      too true, but it's some great books off in here....
Mar 28th 2005
121
no more?
Apr 11th 2005
134
Post Colonial Africa and the struggle for independence
Apr 12th 2005
145
Namibia's Liberation Struggle
Apr 12th 2005
146
      Thomas Sankara Speaks
Apr 12th 2005
147
           Detained - Ngugi wa Thiongo
Apr 12th 2005
148
                I refuse to die - Koigi wa wamwere.
Apr 12th 2005
149
up again.
Apr 27th 2005
150
"Black Elk Speaks" Neihardt & Nicholas Black Elk
May 01st 2005
162
      "The Warrior-King" by John C. Bonifaz (NationBooks2003)
May 09th 2005
164
up.
May 10th 2005
165
Damn, I thought we archived this!
Jun 27th 2005
166

brokenchains79
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1. "Education Reform in the United States"
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59. "Anything by Paulo Freire"
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especially

Pedagogy of the Oppressed
Education for Critical Consciousness
Teachers As Cultural Workers: Letters to Those Who Dare Teach
Pedagogy of Freedom

and books by bell hooks:

Teaching to Transgress: Education as the Practice of Freedom
Teaching Community: A Pedagogy of Hope

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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83. "Jonathan Kozol- Savage Inequalities"
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n/m

  

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88. "The White Architects of Black Education"
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William Watkins

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98. "Life in Schools"
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An Introduction to Critical Pedagogy in the Foundations of Education

Peter McLaren

Unbelievably valuable and enlightening from my perspective as a teacher and someone with socialist-leaning ideals.

I'll keep digging until I
feel something
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114. "Why School's cant Solve our Problems"
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- And how we can. James P. Comer

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151. ""Radical Equations: Math Literacy and Civil Rights" by"
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Robert P. Moses with Charles Cobb...excellent book. I really got interested when I found out much of the book took place in Jackson, Mississippi where my mother is from, and specifically at Lanier high School, where many of my aunts and uncles went to high school.

Basically the book shows that education specifically in math and science is directly linked to economic empowerment, as well as a boatload of other things...

"Is it not one father that all of us have? Is it not one God that has created us? Why is it that we deal treacherously with one another?" --Malachi 2:10

  

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158. "Learning While Black - Janice E. Hale"
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2. "Globalization"
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8. "Out of control- Zbigniew Brzezinski"
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It's about emerging out of the cold war, and starts as a dissertation on the failure of socialism and what that may have meant combined with the flight from "moral codes". The book is circa early '90s but it's dope.

I encourage ya'll to read as much by this man as possible, if nothing else for perspective. The man has a grasp on global politics.


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53. "RE: Globalization"
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"The Lexus And The Olive Tree"
by L. Friedman

  

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100. "Rise to Globalism"
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by Stephen Ambrose

and The New Empire - An Interpretation of American Expansion, 1860-1898 by Walter LaFeber

I'll keep digging until I
feel something
-MJK

  

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122. "RE: Globalization"
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'No Logo'; N, Klein

  

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133. "RE: Globalization"
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globalization and its discontents
by joseph stiglitz

or "development as freedom"
by amartya sen

  

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3. "U.S. History (no particular group)"
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54. "People's history of the united states"
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Bury my heart at wounded knee

There is A River

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99. "Civil War (3 volume set)"
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by Shelby Foote

Really anything by Shelby Foote.

I'll keep digging until I
feel something
-MJK

  

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105. "Lies my teacher told me"
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shows everything wrong with American history classes.

  

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136. "Howard Zinn- A people's history of the U.S."
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Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/feeling_fucking_gorgeous

just don't expect answers to come from your speakers. Somebody ( a "Leader" or social organization) needs to take that message away from the record and promote it socially. That's when it works.

  

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4. "Pre-colonial African History"
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72. "good idea.. Blues People, leRoi Jones / Amiri baraka"
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I know it's a tad off topic, since i's about music, but I do believe you'll find it interesting.


http://profiles.myspace.com/users/10450673

cut 'n paste for your own (Patent Pending)chrisdefendorf response:

a: fuck you stop trying to control me, ___ and ___ (fill in the blanks) will do whatever we want to do together
b: stop being such a ____ ____

  

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73. "malcolm had a book on Afro-American History"
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It was genius. I can't find it right now, I hink the title was "malcolm X talks on Afro-American History. "



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cut 'n paste for your own (Patent Pending)chrisdefendorf response:

a: fuck you stop trying to control me, ___ and ___ (fill in the blanks) will do whatever we want to do together
b: stop being such a ____ ____

  

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89. "RE: malcolm had a book on Afro-American History"
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i have this book and it is very powerful for only about 78 pages.

www.hiphopmusic.com

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108. "true,,, whats the name & publisher"
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http://profiles.myspace.com/users/10450673

"you fuckers brought chrisdefendorf out of crakctavist. thanksafuckinlot"
-okp rjcc

*chrisdefendorf joins janus on s.i.'s list of 'okps to ignore'

he aint racist. He's far from that- from what I've seen. IMO.

  

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95. "Whatever you can find by John Henrik Clarke"
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and Ivan Van Sertima

  

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155. "anything by Cheik Anta Diop"
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167. "Re-inventing Africa by Ifi Amadiume"
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*****
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I'm out of control
the whole--damn--party
--is--out--of control!
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5. "Pre-Enlightenment Euro History"
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55. "RE: Pre-Enlightenment Euro History"
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Religion and the death of magic by Kenneth Anger (good luck findin that shit)

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112. "RE: Pre-Enlightenment Euro History"
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That anger book 'Religion and the Death of Magic' - I've never heard of it but from the title it sounds like it deals with the Enlightenment itself. I mean the death of magic sounds like the death of paganism and the birth of reason. This ain't meant to be an attack or anything, just wondering what its about.

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116. "Almost exactly what you guessed"
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It details how the process of religious orthodoxy in Europe pretty much killed traditional, earth based spirituality. Goes all the way back to the time of roman colonization of gaul.

  

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85. "Fairbank is good"
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John K. Fairbank, The Chinese World Order: Traditional China's Foreign Relations
Andrew Gordon, A Modern History of Japan: from Tokugawa Times to the Present.
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113. "RE: Asian History (I dont know shit about none of it)"
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A pretty good book summing up the history of India (especially good on British colonial rule) is 'Modern South Asia: History, Culture, Political Economy' by Sugata Bose and Ayesha Jalal. Amazingly Sugata Bose is actually the grandnephew of the legendary Indian freedom fighter Subhas Chandra Bose, who led the Indian National Army uprising during the Second World War. Definately worth a read. Also probably the most definitive, though more challenging, histories of India are by Ranajit Guha, and especially 'Dominance Without Hegemony: History and Power in Colonial India', although I've only read bits of this.

Also on a personal note, look out for anything on india by someone called Benjamin Zachariah, who taught me during my last semester. Hes a bit of an eccentric genius, and I've got a feeling could become a real name in Asian history. Hes already got a biography of Nehru, though I haven't yet read it (too much else to read), and I think hes currently writing something on everyday life under British colonial rule.

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7. "Pre-columbus history of the western hemisphere"
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90. "RE: Pre-columbus history of the western hemisphere"
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60. "Civilization or Barbarism?"
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by Cheikh Anta Diop

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126. "Wisdom of the Desert by Thomas Merton"
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Your topic is slightly off as their was no true Chrstanity before the Roman Empire.

The Desert Fathers where a the first contemplative monastic tradition to maintian their lessons in stoires and art. Intresting stuff.

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152. "Christ was born, did his teaching, and died all within"
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the scope of time of the Roman Empire...

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156. "Dr. Ben: African Origins of the Major Western Religions"
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i don't know if it's *all* before the roman empire, but it's a good starting point for further research on the africanization of christianity.


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110. "RE: Socialism/Marxism (the most necessary readings)"
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This might sound a little obvious - but if ur gonna read up marxism u gotta start at Marx's 'Manifesto of the Communist Party' (1848). I'd suggest one of the newer editions with an introductory chapter.

Past that marxism/socialism is such a wide topic its hard to suggest particular books. Perhaps someone else can come up with a definitive book or two.

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123. "RE: Socialism/Marxism (the most necessary readings)"
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Read the Frankfurt School.

Also, poststructural theorists have now built on/departed from strict marxist paradigms. Try Ideology and Ideological State Apparatus by Louis Althusser

  

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124. "RE: Socialism/Marxism (the most necessary readings)"
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You can also read my thesis; 'Advertising and Branding in the Context of Corporate Globalisation' Groundbreaking!!!!!

  

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12. "Islamic History."
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Before we can talk about discourse between religions it is important that we have a working understanding of these religions. Islam has storied traditions, and a splendid history. Share here:

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74. "read about Rumi. Translated by Coleman barks"
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to really grok islam.

Rumi is the shakespeare of Islam, it's mystical poetry. Incredible beauty. Coleman Barks' translations are the best so far.

if you read ABOUT rumi & his mentor/role model Shams of tabriz, you might see a bit of your humanity in the story, and thus understand Islam.

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117. "What books on Islamic History?"
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160. "And Muhammed was His Messenger by AnneMarie Schimmel"
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161. "The Early History of Islam by Sayyid Safdar Husayn"
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14. "Cultural Anthropology."
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You can't no where you are going if you don't know where you have been. You don't know who you are, unless you are aware of who you were.

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75. ""Power of Myth" by Joseph Campbell is a great start."
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Videos. pretty great stuff..

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Mary Douglas: Purity and Danger - Classic study, encompassing leviticus, anthropology of food, and much interesting things...

Renato Rosaldo - Death and the headhunters rage (article). Postmodernist Anthropology, tackling questions about how much we can really understand other cultures reactions to emotional situations..

Colin Turnbull - The forest people and the mountain people. Brilliant but flawed ethnographies covering the Mbuti people and the "Ik". Great for people who are new to the subject.

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77. ""The Enlightened mind" by Stephen Mitchell"
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56. "RE: Philosophy"
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The essential Soren Kierkegaard
Plato's Republic
Socrates Apology
Confessions of St Augustine
Hobbes' Leviathan
The Essential Nietzche

then learn how all the above shit is wrong by reading

Yurugu by Marimba Ani
Middle Passage and the Sorcerer's Apprentice by Charles Johnson
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76. "The Lazaris Material"
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This is where I get a lot of my philosophical insight (smile).

lazaris.com

and I've studied philosophy from Buddhic thought to schopenhour to many others. Lazaris' channel is extraordinariy clear.

Lazaris is the clear white light that all humans see when they pass over from death to the next world, as described in the Egyptian, Hindu & Buddhist Books of the Dead. Lucky you!!

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36. ""Maestro": Greenspan's Fed and the American Boom"
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78. ""Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" (demnow swipe)"
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by my nigga, my bruh, John Perkins.

, a former respected member of the international banking community. In his book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man he describes how as a highly paid professional, he helped the U.S. cheat poor countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars by lending them more money than they could possibly repay and then take over their economies.

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John Perkins describes himself as a former economic hit man - a highly paid professional who cheated countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars.

20 years ago Perkins began writing a book with the working title, "Conscience of an Economic Hit Men."

Perkins writes, "The book was to be dedicated to the presidents of two countries, men who had been his clients whom I respected and thought of as kindred spirits - Jaime Roldós, president of Ecuador, and Omar Torrijos, president of Panama. Both had just died in fiery crashes. Their deaths were not accidental. They were assassinated because they opposed that fraternity of corporate, government, and banking heads whose goal is global empire. We Economic Hit Men failed to bring Roldós and Torrijos around, and the other type of hit men, the CIA-sanctioned jackals who were always right behind us, stepped in.

John Perkins goes on to write: "I was persuaded to stop writing that book. I started it four more times during the next twenty years. On each occasion, my decision to begin again was influenced by current world events: the U.S. invasion of Panama in 1980, the first Gulf War, Somalia, and the rise of Osama bin Laden. However, threats or bribes always convinced me to stop."

But now Perkins has finally published his story. The book is titled Confessions of an Economic Hit Man. John Perkins joins us now in our Firehouse studios.

John Perkins, from 1971 to 1981 he worked for the international consulting firm of Chas T. Main where he was a self-described "economic hit man." He is the author of the new book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.

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AMY GOODMAN: John Perkins joins us now in our firehouse studio. Welcome to Democracy Now!

JOHN PERKINS: Thank you, Amy. It’s great to be here.

AMY GOODMAN: It’s good to have you with us. Okay, explain this term, “economic hit man,” e.h.m., as you call it.

JOHN PERKINS: Basically what we were trained to do and what our job is to do is to build up the American empire. To bring -- to create situations where as many resources as possible flow into this country, to our corporations, and our government, and in fact we’ve been very successful. We’ve built the largest empire in the history of the world. It's been done over the last 50 years since World War II with very little military might, actually. It's only in rare instances like Iraq where the military comes in as a last resort. This empire, unlike any other in the history of the world, has been built primarily through economic manipulation, through cheating, through fraud, through seducing people into our way of life, through the economic hit men. I was very much a part of that.

AMY GOODMAN: How did you become one? Who did you work for?

JOHN PERKINS: Well, I was initially recruited while I was in business school back in the late sixties by the National Security Agency, the nation's largest and least understood spy organization; but ultimately I worked for private corporations. The first real economic hit man was back in the early 1950's, Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson of Teddy, who overthrew of government of Iran, a democratically elected government, Mossadegh’s government who was Time's magazine person of the year; and he was so successful at doing this without any bloodshed -- well, there was a little bloodshed, but no military intervention, just spending millions of dollars and replaced Mossadegh with the Shah of Iran. At that point, we understood that this idea of economic hit man was an extremely good one. We didn't have to worry about the threat of war with Russia when we did it this way. The problem with that was that Roosevelt was a C.I.A. agent. He was a government employee. Had he been caught, we would have been in a lot of trouble. It would have been very embarrassing. So, at that point, the decision was made to use organizations like the C.I.A. and the N.S.A. to recruit potential economic hit men like me and then send us to work for private consulting companies, engineering firms, construction companies, so that if we were caught, there would be no connection with the government.

AMY GOODMAN: Okay. Explain the company you worked for.

JOHN PERKINS: Well, the company I worked for was a company named Chas. T. Main in Boston, Massachusetts. We were about 2,000 employees, and I became its chief economist. I ended up having fifty people working for me. But my real job was deal-making. It was giving loans to other countries, huge loans, much bigger than they could possibly repay. One of the conditions of the loan–let's say a $1 billion to a country like Indonesia or Ecuador–and this country would then have to give ninety percent of that loan back to a U.S. company, or U.S. companies, to build the infrastructure–a Halliburton or a Bechtel. These were big ones. Those companies would then go in and build an electrical system or ports or highways, and these would basically serve just a few of the very wealthiest families in those countries. The poor people in those countries would be stuck ultimately with this amazing debt that they couldn’t possibly repay. A country today like Ecuador owes over fifty percent of its national budget just to pay down its debt. And it really can’t do it. So, we literally have them over a barrel. So, when we want more oil, we go to Ecuador and say, “Look, you're not able to repay your debts, therefore give our oil companies your Amazon rain forest, which are filled with oil.” And today we're going in and destroying Amazonian rain forests, forcing Ecuador to give them to us because they’ve accumulated all this debt. So we make this big loan, most of it comes back to the United States, the country is left with the debt plus lots of interest, and they basically become our servants, our slaves. It's an empire. There's no two ways about it. It’s a huge empire. It's been extremely successful.

AMY GOODMAN: We're talking to John Perkins, author of Confessions of an Economic Hit Man. You say because of bribes and other reason you didn't write this book for a long time. What do you mean? Who tried to bribe you, or who -- what are the bribes you accepted?

JOHN PERKINS: Well, I accepted a half a million dollar bribe in the nineties not to write the book.

AMY GOODMAN: From?

JOHN PERKINS: From a major construction engineering company.

AMY GOODMAN: Which one?

JOHN PERKINS: Legally speaking, it wasn't -- Stoner-Webster. Legally speaking it wasn't a bribe, it was -- I was being paid as a consultant. This is all very legal. But I essentially did nothing. It was a very understood, as I explained in Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, that it was -- I was -- it was understood when I accepted this money as a consultant to them I wouldn't have to do much work, but I mustn't write any books about the subject, which they were aware that I was in the process of writing this book, which at the time I called “Conscience of an Economic Hit Man.” And I have to tell you, Amy, that, you know, it’s an extraordinary story from the standpoint of -- It's almost James Bondish, truly, and I mean--

AMY GOODMAN: Well that's certainly how the book reads.

JOHN PERKINS: Yeah, and it was, you know? And when the National Security Agency recruited me, they put me through a day of lie detector tests. They found out all my weaknesses and immediately seduced me. They used the strongest drugs in our culture, sex, power and money, to win me over. I come from a very old New England family, Calvinist, steeped in amazingly strong moral values. I think I, you know, I’m a good person overall, and I think my story really shows how this system and these powerful drugs of sex, money and power can seduce people, because I certainly was seduced. And if I hadn't lived this life as an economic hit man, I think I’d have a hard time believing that anybody does these things. And that's why I wrote the book, because our country really needs to understand, if people in this nation understood what our foreign policy is really about, what foreign aid is about, how our corporations work, where our tax money goes, I know we will demand change.

AMY GOODMAN: We're talking to John Perkins. In your book, you talk about how you helped to implement a secret scheme that funneled billions of dollars of Saudi Arabian petrol dollars back into the U.S. economy, and that further cemented the intimate relationship between the House of Saud and successive U.S. administrations. Explain.

JOHN PERKINS: Yes, it was a fascinating time. I remember well, you're probably too young to remember, but I remember well in the early seventies how OPEC exercised this power it had, and cut back on oil supplies. We had cars lined up at gas stations. The country was afraid that it was facing another 1929-type of crash–depression; and this was unacceptable. So, they -- the Treasury Department hired me and a few other economic hit men. We went to Saudi Arabia. We --

AMY GOODMAN: You're actually called economic hit men --e.h.m.’s?

JOHN PERKINS: Yeah, it was a tongue-in-cheek term that we called ourselves. Officially, I was a chief economist. We called ourselves e.h.m.'s. It was tongue-in-cheek. It was like, nobody will believe us if we say this, you know? And, so, we went to Saudi Arabia in the early seventies. We knew Saudi Arabia was the key to dropping our dependency, or to controlling the situation. And we worked out this deal whereby the Royal House of Saud agreed to send most of their petro-dollars back to the United States and invest them in U.S. government securities. The Treasury Department would use the interest from these securities to hire U.S. companies to build Saudi Arabia–new cities, new infrastructure–which we’ve done. And the House of Saud would agree to maintain the price of oil within acceptable limits to us, which they’ve done all of these years, and we would agree to keep the House of Saud in power as long as they did this, which we’ve done, which is one of the reasons we went to war with Iraq in the first place. And in Iraq we tried to implement the same policy that was so successful in Saudi Arabia, but Saddam Hussein didn't buy. When the economic hit men fail in this scenario, the next step is what we call the jackals. Jackals are C.I.A.-sanctioned people that come in and try to foment a coup or revolution. If that doesn't work, they perform assassinations. or try to. In the case of Iraq, they weren't able to get through to Saddam Hussein. He had -- His bodyguards were too good. He had doubles. They couldn’t get through to him. So the third line of defense, if the economic hit men and the jackals fail, the next line of defense is our young men and women, who are sent in to die and kill, which is what we’ve obviously done in Iraq.

AMY GOODMAN: Can you explain how Torrijos died?

JOHN PERKINS: Omar Torrijos, the President of Panama. Omar Torrijos had signed the Canal Treaty with Carter much -- and, you know, it passed our congress by only one vote. It was a highly contended issue. And Torrijos then also went ahead and negotiated with the Japanese to build a sea-level canal. The Japanese wanted to finance and construct a sea-level canal in Panama. Torrijos talked to them about this which very much upset Bechtel Corporation, whose president was George Schultz and senior council was Casper Weinberger. When Carter was thrown out (and that’s an interesting story–how that actually happened), when he lost the election, and Reagan came in and Schultz came in as Secretary of State from Bechtel, and Weinberger came from Bechtel to be Secretary of Defense, they were extremely angry at Torrijos -- tried to get him to renegotiate the Canal Treaty and not to talk to the Japanese. He adamantly refused. He was a very principled man. He had his problem, but he was a very principled man. He was an amazing man, Torrijos. And so, he died in a fiery airplane crash, which was connected to a tape recorder with explosives in it, which -- I was there. I had been working with him. I knew that we economic hit men had failed. I knew the jackals were closing in on him, and the next thing, his plane exploded with a tape recorder with a bomb in it. There's no question in my mind that it was C.I.A. sanctioned, and most -- many Latin American investigators have come to the same conclusion. Of course, we never heard about that in our country.

AMY GOODMAN: So, where -- when did your change your heart happen?

JOHN PERKINS: I felt guilty throughout the whole time, but I was seduced. The power of these drugs, sex, power, and money, was extremely strong for me. And, of course, I was doing things I was being patted on the back for. I was chief economist. I was doing things that Robert McNamara liked and so on.

AMY GOODMAN: How closely did you work with the World Bank?

JOHN PERKINS: Very, very closely with the World Bank. The World Bank provides most of the money that’s used by economic hit men, it and the I.M.F. But when 9/11 struck, I had a change of heart. I knew the story had to be told because what happened at 9/11 is a direct result of what the economic hit men are doing. And the only way that we're going to feel secure in this country again and that we're going to feel good about ourselves is if we use these systems we’ve put into place to create positive change around the world. I really believe we can do that. I believe the World Bank and other institutions can be turned around and do what they were originally intended to do, which is help reconstruct devastated parts of the world. Help -- genuinely help poor people. There are twenty-four thousand people starving to death every day. We can change that.

AMY GOODMAN: John Perkins, I want to thank you very much for being with us. John Perkins' book is called, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.

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104. "Commanding Heights: The Battle for the World Economy"
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Actually I watched the PBS series based on the book - it was excellent, so I'm sure the book is too.

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106. "You can actually still watch it on pbs.org and there are"
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excerpts and other information attached as well. I had the book, and I lost it. I lose everything. I lost that Homi Baraba book, and I lost my Baruti book on Sex twice.

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109. "the whole thing?"
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it's a six-hour series, they can't have the whole thing online can they?

But it was excellent, I really learned alot about the role free market, socialist & mixed economies have played on the global economic and political stage.

>excerpts and other information attached as well. I had the
>book, and I lost it. I lose everything. I lost that Homi
>Baraba book, and I lost my Baruti book on Sex twice.
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>I got ZERO short term memory. I'm workin on my third umbrella
>this year.

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Political, and Economic Imperative for the Twenty-First Century- Amos Wilson.
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91. "RE: Blueprint for Black Power: A Moral,"
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i just finished an amos wilson book last week, he was a great intellectual.

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92. "RE: Pan-Africanism"
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the philosophy of marcus garvey. i dont know if that is the exact name of the book, but it has a lot pages.

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philosophy and opinions of marcus garvey. edited/written by amy jacques garvery.

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111. "RE: European History. ( Colonial,post-industrial)"
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A personal favourite of mine is Eric Hobsbawm's 'The Age of Extremes'. Which is a history of Europe from 1914-1991. Also, though I've never read it, he has also written 'Age of Empire', which deals with Europe from 1875-1914, but I'm sure its equally good.

If you're not aware of Hobsbawm he is a true legend in the historical world, and still writing books and teaching in London in his 90's right now! Though he does approach things from a definitively leftist standpoint, so be aware of that if you read anything by him.

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101. "The Violent Land"
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by Jorge Amado

It's a novel, though historically based, but it is a great look into the effects of colonization and greed (is there a difference) on native peoples (in this case in Brazil and for cocoa forests).

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Major book, covering the social history and effects of Cocaine use, focuses on the implications in all the majpr producing/exporting countries...

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129. "How Mumbo Jumbo conquered the world"
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by Francis Wheen

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25. "Ancient Mathematics. (Kemetic, etc...)"
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Mathematics is a tool based on how we see our world. I think it's important to know that there is more than one type of logic, and that are many methods of mathematics the world over. Many of these speak to the genious of humanity in general, and a people more specifically.

Oftentimes one's math controls how we interact with our enviornment. I'm not a scholar on math, but I'm sure there are some folk that can drop some knowledge on ancient mathmatics here.


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135. "RE: Ancient Mathematics. (Kemetic, etc...)"
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"Classics of Mathematics", ed. Ronald Calinger

Don't know how ancient you're looking for, but this is the textbook we used in the math history class I took as an undergrad. It's a very good starting point for studying the subject. Excerpts of classic papers ranging historically from A'h-mose to Poincare.

  

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26. "Caribbean Islands"
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Walter Rodney by Horace Campbell.
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61. "Nation Conscious Rap"
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edited by Joseph Eure and James Spady

also

Mexican Muralists: Orozco, Rivera, Siqueiros by Desmond Rochfort

In the Spirit of Resistance : African-American Modernists & the Mexican Muralist School by Lizetta Lefalle-Collins

Unpacking Culture: Art and Commodity in Colonial and Postcolonial Worlds by Ruth B. Phillips

Can't Stop Won't Stop : A History of the Hip Hop Generation by Jeff Chang, D.J. Kool Herc (Introduction)

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Black Noise: Rap Music and Black Culture in Contemporary America (Music/Culture)
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102. "The New Nuclear Danger"
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George Bush's Military Industrial Complex

by Dr. Helen Caldicott

This should probably go under 'genocide'

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(political essays)

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by David Harvey

This book really helped shape my view of Western art, culture, and society. It's a must-read.

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The only way a democracy or a republic works is with an informed public. It is the duty of the press to keep the people up to date with objective information so that the people can make up their own mind on what is best for them.

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67. "i think Postman also wrote"
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"entertaining ourselves to death"

excellent title, but the 'net has made a lot of it redundant now sadly

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71. "yeah, they both wrote that together. I heard it was good."
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I should get it, but cats is BROKE, son.


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37. ""Moyers on America: A Journalist and his times" (Moyers)"
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63. "RE: The Press (media and it's influence)"
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Bad News : The Decline of Reporting, the Business of News, and the Danger to Us All
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Public Opinion by Walter Lipman (this may be out of print but it's a must read)

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79. ""Manufacturing Consent" DVD"
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about Noam Chomsky


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93. "RE: The Press (media and it's influence)"
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the book called "cocaine politics" by two people whose names i forgot. talks about the media's willingness to supress truths and mislead the public.

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68. ""2000 seasons"- Armah."
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131. "I thought I was the only one who's read this book"
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"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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132. "this book was required reading in activist 4 years ago."
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80. "Black Power, Stokely Carmichael/Kwame Toure"
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140. "The wretched of the earth- fanon"
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153. ""Revolutionary Suicide" by Huey P. Newton"
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"Is it not one father that all of us have? Is it not one God that has created us? Why is it that we deal treacherously with one another?" --Malachi 2:10

  

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38. "Genocide/Population control"
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159. "Season of Blood by Fergal Keene"
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this book is about the genocide in Rwanda from a former BBC reporter that holds no punches

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39. "Diet (Cultural Dynamics, Maximizing potential, Health tips)"
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Before we can do anything, we need balance in our lives: Spiritual balance, Mental Balance, and Physical as well. Sometimes we get so caught up in the hustle and bustle of life that we forget to address one of these, and we wonder why our life is out of wack. All too often, especially in the West(more specifically America) we ignore our health. I know I do. Diet is a big part of bringing yourself into balance.

It's been proven that your organs can influence your mood, and that your brain function can be enhanced or be found detriment due to diet.

Here we can talk about books that speak to that. We can't have an evolution on an empty stomach.


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51. ""Helping your body cleans itself" Dr. Yakov Koyfman N.D."
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Practical guide to a healthy lifestyle, principles of healthy eating

Diet for health
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40. "Imperialism/White Supremacy"
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57. "RE: Imperialism/White Supremacy"
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How the Irish Became White (I don't remember the author)
History the White Race (same guy as above, if i remember)

  

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64. "RE: Imperialism/White Supremacy"
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White on Black: Images of African and Blacks in Western Popular Culture. Pieterse, Jan Nederveen.

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84. "My top 10 books on the subject..."
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Each of these books presents a categorically different type of theory about the origins, structure and future of white supremacy:

1)Yurugu: An Afrikan-Centered Critique of European Cultural Thought and Behavior by Marimba Ani (cultural)
2)The Racial Contract by Charles W. Mills (philosophical)
3)The Isis Papers by Francis Cress-Welsing (genetic)
4)Guns, Germs And Steel by Jared Diamond (environmental)
5)The Age of Revolution, The Age of Capital, and the Age of Empire by Eric Hobsbawm (economic)
6)Wages of Whiteness by David Roediger (political)
7)How the Irish Became White by Noel Ignatiev (political)
8)Begrimed and Black: Christian Traditions on Blacks and Blackness by Robert E. Hood (theological)
9)Black Skin, White Masks by Frantz Fanon (psychological)
10) Racism: A Short History by George Fredrickson (historical-materialist)

I've moved beyond agreeing with some of these books, but I'm glad I read every one of them.

  

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41. "Psychology and Sociology"
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86. "City of Quartz by Mike Davis"
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If you've never been to LA, read City of Quartz. That book's fucking dope. Also:
Sidewalk by Mitchell Dunier
American Apartheid by Douglas Massey
Sexual Personae : Art & Decadence from Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson by Camille Paglia (craaaazy book)
Being Black, Living in the Red by Dalton Conley
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125. "RE: Psychology and Sociology"
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Social Influence; John C. Turner

  

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social efluence - moot_point.....

  

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42. "Ethnic Struggle/Discourse."
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How we relate to each other is very important if we are to evolve to a level of understanding, repsect, and honor that we all deserve. Here we can list books that challenge race/ethnic boundaries or help us define who we are, and how we can progress.


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43. "" Blacks and Jews" Cornell West & Michael Lerner"
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44. ""Open Mike" Michael Eric Dyson"
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45. ""Race Matters" Cornell West."
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46. ""Negroes" Dr Larry Crawford aka Dr. Baruti."
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48. ""Excuses, Excuses" : The Politics of interracial coupling in"
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European Culture by Dr. Mwalimu A. Bomani Baruti...


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137. "Black Macho and the Myth of a Superwoman- Michelle Wallace"
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Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/feeling_fucking_gorgeous

just don't expect answers to come from your speakers. Somebody ( a "Leader" or social organization) needs to take that message away from the record and promote it socially. That's when it works.

  

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138. "Freedom Dreams- Robin D.G Kelly"
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The black radical imagination.

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141. "Defending the Spirit- Randal Robinson"
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"A black life in AMerica"

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142. "The Reckoning"
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"What blacks owe to each other"
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143. "When and Where I enter -Paula Giddings"
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on "The impact of black women on race and sex in america"..

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47. "Feminism"
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65. "bell hooks and audre lorde"
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Feminist Theory: From Margin to Center by Bell Hooks
Feminism Is for Everybody: Passionate Politics by bell hooks
Ain't I A Woman: Black Women and Feminism by bell hooks
Sister Outsider: Essays and Speeches by Audre Lorde
Zami: A New Spelling of My Name by Audre Lorde

and Angela Davis

Women, Race, & Class by ANGELA Y. DAVIS

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81. "Andrea Dworkin "Intercourse""
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144. "Home Girls- A Black Feminist Anthology"
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edited by barbara smith

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157. "Angela Davis' work"
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49. "Manhood."
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Without strong men and women we cannot hope for evolution towards freedom. In a society that attacks, and saps the strength of manhood it is important to remember and to revist just what it is that makes men MEN. It is equally important to bolster the case of the woman, but that's another post.

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50. ""Who's gonna take the weight?" Manhood, race, and power"
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in America By Kevin Powell.

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87. "Hustler"
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just kidding

  

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96. "It's not a book..."
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but Soul on Ice by Ras Kass is a pretty solid rumination on manhood, IMO

  

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115. "Blank Men Single Dangerous Obsolete"
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by Haki Matabuti


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154. ""ASAFO--A Warriors Guide To Manhood" by"
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Mwalimu Baruti.

"Is it not one father that all of us have? Is it not one God that has created us? Why is it that we deal treacherously with one another?" --Malachi 2:10

  

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163. "Constructing the Black Masculine by Maurice O. Wallace"
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Q:Are you a fool, fool?
A: Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!
--My dad cracking a joke.
Love you, Pa.

  

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66. "Magic and traditional spirituality."
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If anybody has any books on this I'd appreciate it. Some rituals and practices of non-western belief systems.

  

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70. "Opening to Spirit"
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by Caroline Shola Arewa

This book really helped me and I learned so much.

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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82. "i can recommend a ton of books on this based on your particular interest"
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please hit me with an inbox or email. i learned a lot in this lifetime.
also, lazaris.com for new age magic.


http://profiles.myspace.com/users/10450673

cut 'n paste for your own (Patent Pending)chrisdefendorf response:

a: fuck you stop trying to control me, ___ and ___ (fill in the blanks) will do whatever we want to do together
b: stop being such a ____ ____

  

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97. "One Day My Soul Just Opened Up"
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-Iyanla Vanzant

  

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118. "it's some powerful shit in here."
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120. "nah, WE the powerful shit in here.... these are just BOOOKZ"
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http://profiles.myspace.com/users/10450673

"you fuckers brought chrisdefendorf out of crakctavist. thanksafuckinlot"
-okp rjcc

*chrisdefendorf joins janus on s.i.'s list of 'okps to ignore'

he aint racist. He's far from that- from what I've seen. IMO.

  

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121. "too true, but it's some great books off in here...."
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134. "no more?"
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"I liked it," Gilliam said of playing gunner on punt team. "It was the first time I did anything like that. It was fun. It felt like, if he wasn't fair catching it, he was disrespecting me, so I was trying to take a head off if I could." Response-ability

  

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145. "Post Colonial Africa and the struggle for independence"
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any good mau mau history book recommendations?

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i myself would never want to be god, or even like god. Because god got all these human beings on this planet.and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the d

  

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146. "Namibia's Liberation Struggle"
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Colin Leys and John S Saul

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147. "Thomas Sankara Speaks"
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The Burkina Faso REvolution 1983-87

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148. "Detained - Ngugi wa Thiongo"
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149. "I refuse to die - Koigi wa wamwere."
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150. "up again."
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www.northernarc.net
www.myspace.com/egyptianknight

Songs that get more run in Springtime:
Tela- Sho'nuff, Brandnewheavies-Sometimes, Showbiz & A.G.-?, JayZ- Can't Knock da Hustle, Buju- Chuck it so.

  

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162. ""Black Elk Speaks" Neihardt & Nicholas Black Elk"
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"Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown.

And for all you MediocrePlayas who REALLY BELIEVE that a "free election" in Zimbabwe will occur ONLY when a Pro-IMF parasite like Tsvangirai is "elected" to a National Government....


"DEMONSTRATION ELECTIONs:US Staged Elections in The Dominican Republic,Vietnam and El Salvador" by Edward S. Herman and Frank Brodhead(1984 South End Press)

Hopefully some of you will READ it.

Peace+Luv=Canada

  

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164. ""The Warrior-King" by John C. Bonifaz (NationBooks2003)"
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"The Trial of Henry Kissinger" by Christopher Hitchings (Verso2001)

A really interesting book on the evolution of CULTURAL/human communication called "the Meme Machine" by Susan Blackmore (OxfordPress1999)

Blackmore posits that Memes are like GENES in the form of songs,folk tales,propaganda,inventions,media distortions/LIES,behaviours,trends,skills,habits...REPLICATORS competing for space in our MINDS and CULTURE.


The implications of this books are BOTH awesome and EVIL.






"So soon we'll find out who IS-the REAL Revolutionary.Cause I don't want my people to be tricked ..by mercenaries." Bob Marley from the song Zimbabwe

  

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165. "up."
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www.northernarc.net
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<<<<----Sam Sharpe. 3rd World people, remember where ya coming from!

  

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166. "Damn, I thought we archived this!"
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www.northernarc.net
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<<<<----Sam Sharpe.

Now Playing: Dj variable. www.djvariable.net

Brooklynite by birth, Southern by the Grace of God.

  

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