and i am the biggest michael jordan/90s bulls fan ever.

but real talk, the pistons could handle them.

discuss.....

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good matchups

jordan v. rip....advantage jordan

pip v. prince...i go with pip but it's close

rodman v. big ben...even
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like he did last year when Ron Ron got under his skin...Artest is like Ghandi compared to what Rodman was.

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by that logic, you could say the same for MJ when he snapped on xavier mcdaniel against the knicks in the '92 playoffs.

& plus, artest is a little bitch. what nba player doesn't wanna fuck him up?

that shove was like a check in the mail anyway, it was bound to come....

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fucked up the Knicks, then yes, MJ did snap on Xavier...

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are we ever going to quit with the 'that team of way back when that was GREAT couldn't beat today's team'

i can't even call it. i know that few teams were as smart as those bulls and there is still NO PLAYER as unstoppable in the NBA as jordan was.

it's way more interesting...following own advice right...now.
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Can we let them win a championship this year first? I know where you are coming from and I agree that it would be a good match-up, but talk like this feels like a jinx.



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yes, you are correct. i'm a '85 baby.

but don't even think for a second that you can come in here tell me i don't know how good *my* chicago bulls were when i was 7 years old in chicago stadium in game 6 back in '92, not to mention that i was watching every single game since i started kindergarden in '90.

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>yes, you are correct. i'm a '85 baby.

you confirmed it. you don't know what you're talking about.

kids ages 7, 8, 9 can't be obsessed with basketball while growing up? it's not like we didn't spend all our time watching games and taking the train into different towns to buy basketball cards. ask me anything about those days.

stacey king made 3x the money scottie pippen made in the 90-91 season.

it was danny ainge's back pippen had the classic inbound pass off the back of.

horace grant didn't wear goggles until the second round of the 91 playoffs.

hell, i know what happens in all the championship games each and every play like scenes in a movie since i bought the 90s dvd package with all the full games

y'all don't know what your up against here....

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I assume because by your thinkin thats how old you would have to be to appreciate the 90s bulls?

So do the Sacramento Kings beat the '95 bulls when they were tearing up regular season records in the early 2000's????

Since when do we grade teams success to THE "GOAT" teams when it has only been 33% of the friggin season....


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is that this is the same exact thing people were ripping ESPN for doing with USC's team this year, BEFORE THEY EVEN WON.


i mean come the fuck on. if you want to make these asinine comparisons, at least allow them to possess the credibility of a championship behind BOTH teams, not just one.

#1 - Dennis Rodman would drive Ben and Rasheed insane.
#2 - MJ would abuse and I mean ABUSE Rip Hamilton.
#3 - Pippen would totally render Rip Hamilton helpless.
#4 - Ron Harper is twice Chauncey's size and would drive him nuts.

No way these Pistons beat those Bulls. PERIOD.

Actually these Pistons might not even beat the '97 Jazz nevermind the Bulls.

>Actually these Pistons might not even beat the '97 Jazz nevermind the Bulls.




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but i still think these Pistons could beat them. i'm not so sure about the Bulls though. that's an extraordinary claim...

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>#1 - Dennis Rodman would drive Ben and Rasheed insane.

drive them insane? it's ben & rasheed, not karl malone. they thrive on shit talking, if anything it would bring out a beast in 'sheed. not to mention that 'sheed shoots the 3 so that would have to spread out the bulls defense and leave lots of openings. and not to mention that rodman didn't really *play* the center position, most of the time that was left to luc longly & bill wennington, which i'm pretty sure is advantage pistons

>#2 - MJ would abuse and I mean ABUSE Rip Hamilton.

just like MJ abused reggie miller? oh wait, reggie miller got a few game winning shots in on MJ, and rip is a reggie miller clone. not saying that MJ couldn't handle rip, but he wouldn't "abuse" him just because he's smaller. rip would run MJ round the court all day and in which case that would prolly effect MJ offensive game (keep in mind, indiana took chicago to 7 games in '98)

>#3 - Pippen would totally render Rip Hamilton helpless.

prolly, except he'd be up against tayshaun prince, and for the first time in pippen's life, he'd be matched up against someone with just as long a wingspan as him, which was pippen's biggest plus against most players.

>#4 - Ron Harper is twice Chauncey's size and would drive him
>nuts.

you.

are.

wrong.

>No way these Pistons beat those Bulls. PERIOD.

you're out of your jurisdiction, slugger.

>Actually these Pistons might not even beat the '97 Jazz
>nevermind the Bulls.

yeah if your matching up karl malone against darko and other fuckups like you did above in your bulls vs. pistons analysis

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That dude pushed Jordan with both hands on his playoff game winner(I think game 5). That's one of the most tragic no calls of all times. I stand by the tape.

Oh, and he taught RIP what he knows. Nobody can guard Jordan, many tried yet failed all the same.

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Dumars just made him work more than any other defender ever did. But Jordan still got 30 plus against the Pistons back then.

>That dude pushed Jordan with both hands on his playoff game
>winner(I think game 5). That's one of the most tragic no calls
>of all times. I stand by the tape.
>
>Oh, and he taught RIP what he knows. Nobody can guard Jordan,
>many tried yet failed all the same.

but i still agree with you





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The Pistons start winning against a whack, young league and all of a sudden, they can beat the Jordan '96 Bulls? LAWD. Let's put this in perspective dawg.

>>#1 - Dennis Rodman would drive Ben and Rasheed insane.
>
>drive them insane? it's ben & rasheed, not karl malone.
yeah, rasheed who has PROVEN to be a loose cannon at times would definitely lose his fucking guord with rodman baiting him. are you serious dog, do you WATCH BASKETBALL? much respect to big ben but NOBODY EVER worked harder for a rebound then rodman.

>they
>thrive on shit talking, if anything it would bring out a beast
>in 'sheed.
rodman did't talk nearly so much as he physically antagonized other players

>not to mention that 'sheed shoots the 3 so that
>would have to spread out the bulls defense and leave lots of
>openings. and not to mention that rodman didn't really *play*
>the center position,
he DEFENDED the center position a whole hell of a lot, what are YOU talking about?
jordan, harper, pippen, kukoc, rodman? quite a familiar lineup for them to use.



>>#2 - MJ would abuse and I mean ABUSE Rip Hamilton.
>
>just like MJ abused reggie miller?
yes, reggie and EVERYBODY ELSE who tried to guard him.

>oh wait, reggie miller got
>a few game winning shots in on MJ, and rip is a reggie miller
>clone.
what's your point? reggie made some shots but how often can you say he outplayed jordan?

>not saying that MJ couldn't handle rip, but he wouldn't
>"abuse" him just because he's smaller.
yes, yes he would. he would post him up ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.

>rip would run MJ round
>the court all day and in which case that would prolly effect
>MJ offensive game (keep in mind, indiana took chicago to 7
>games in '98)
jordan routinely guarded the best offensive non-center of the other team and did a GREAT job of it and STILL put in his points at the other end. you forget son, he played BOTH SIDES OF THE FLOOR as well as any have in history, clearly better than anyone playing today.

>>#3 - Pippen would totally render Rip Hamilton helpless.
>
>prolly, except he'd be up against tayshaun prince, and for the
>first time in pippen's life, he'd be matched up against
>someone with just as long a wingspan as him, which was
>pippen's biggest plus against most players.
pippen is more athletic than anyone tayshaun has had to guard and yes his wingspan would give him more of a challenge, but he's far from the athlete, ball handler, or passer that pip was

>>#4 - Ron Harper is twice Chauncey's size and would drive him
>>nuts.
>
>you.
>
>are.
>
>wrong.
on this one i'll give you SOME. because chauncey is real, harper is a bit taller but chauncey is strong. this would be a tough matchup for harper, i think almost a wash.

the one X factor the pistons don't have is MJ. unfortunately for the league during the 90s, neithre did anybody else.

>>not to mention that 'sheed shoots the 3 so that
>>would have to spread out the bulls defense and leave lots of
>>openings. and not to mention that rodman didn't really
>*play*
>>the center position,
>he DEFENDED the center position a whole hell of a lot, what
>are YOU talking about?
>jordan, harper, pippen, kukoc, rodman? quite a familiar lineup
>for them to use.

toni kukoc 95-96 6th man of the year. do you know what a 6th man is? alright then.....

>>>#2 - MJ would abuse and I mean ABUSE Rip Hamilton.
>>
>>just like MJ abused reggie miller?
>yes, reggie and EVERYBODY ELSE who tried to guard him.
>
>>oh wait, reggie miller got
>>a few game winning shots in on MJ, and rip is a reggie
>miller
>>clone.
>what's your point? reggie made some shots but how often can
>you say he outplayed jordan?
>
>>not saying that MJ couldn't handle rip, but he wouldn't
>>"abuse" him just because he's smaller.
>yes, yes he would. he would post him up ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.

yes yes, MJ would post up on RIP. MJ post up on everybody during his second comeback, so that's nothing new there. i never said MJ couldn't guard rip, all i'm saying is RIP runs around the floor in a very chatoic style simmilar to reggie miller, almost better than reggie miller but you wouldn't know it because RIP doesn't use it to shoot nothing but 3's.

>>rip would run MJ round
>>the court all day and in which case that would prolly effect
>>MJ offensive game (keep in mind, indiana took chicago to 7
>>games in '98)
>jordan routinely guarded the best offensive non-center of the
>other team and did a GREAT job of it and STILL put in his
>points at the other end. you forget son, he played BOTH SIDES
>OF THE FLOOR as well as any have in history, clearly better
>than anyone playing today.

yes i KNOW! mofos need to stop schooling a chicago bulls biographer. yes michael shuts down his defenders, but the times he's been in trouble in the past is when he has to waste energy to chase around small quick streaky shooters (reggie miller, john starks anybody?)

>>>#3 - Pippen would totally render Rip Hamilton helpless.
>>
>>prolly, except he'd be up against tayshaun prince, and for
>the
>>first time in pippen's life, he'd be matched up against
>>someone with just as long a wingspan as him, which was
>>pippen's biggest plus against most players.
>pippen is more athletic than anyone tayshaun has had to guard
>and yes his wingspan would give him more of a challenge, but
>he's far from the athlete, ball handler, or passer that pip
>was

nah, i'd put prince and pippen pretty much dead even. yes pippen is more talented, but prince since he entered the leauge has always had a big chip on his shoulder and has a lot of heart ('03 playoffs when tayshaun single handedly won the second round for the pistons before they were a force to be wreckin with)

>>>#4 - Ron Harper is twice Chauncey's size and would drive
>him
>>>nuts.
>>
>>you.
>>
>>are.
>>
>>wrong.
>on this one i'll give you SOME. because chauncey is real,
>harper is a bit taller but chauncey is strong. this would be a
>tough matchup for harper, i think almost a wash.
>
>the one X factor the pistons don't have is MJ. unfortunately
>for the league during the 90s, neithre did anybody else.

and also keep in mind that the bulls always beat teams in the championship series that never had a *real* center position player (a rookie elden campbell, cliff robinson, oliver miller, that dude with the brown euroflip on the sonics, & greg oostertag)

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>>jordan, harper, pippen, kukoc, rodman? quite a familiar
>lineup
>>for them to use.

>toni kukoc 95-96 6th man of the year. do you know what a 6th
>man is? alright then.....
are you STUPID? of course you are. i didn't say it was their STARTING LINEUP you crackfiend. i said it was a POPULAR lineup for them to USE. DID YOU WATCH THE GAMES?

>yes yes, MJ would post up on RIP. MJ post up on everybody
>during his second comeback, so that's nothing new there. i
>never said MJ couldn't guard rip, all i'm saying is RIP runs
>around the floor in a very chatoic style simmilar to reggie
>miller, almost better than reggie miller but you wouldn't know
>it because RIP doesn't use it to shoot nothing but 3's.
everyone who watches basketball is well aware of this, and they DO know it, contrary to your unpopular beliefs.


>yes i KNOW! mofos need to stop schooling a chicago bulls
>biographer. yes michael shuts down his defenders, but the
>times he's been in trouble in the past is when he has to waste
>energy to chase around small quick streaky shooters (reggie
>miller, john starks anybody?)
he wasn't "in trouble" in the past during their dynasty. he had challenges, but never "in trouble." bottom line, he got the shit done, and keep in mind starks, although a streakier shooter than rip, was more explosive going to the basket; also, reggie miller had a heigh advantage over jordan, rip doesn't.

>nah, i'd put prince and pippen pretty much dead even. yes
>pippen is more talented, but prince since he entered the
>leauge has always had a big chip on his shoulder and has a lot
>of heart ('03 playoffs when tayshaun single handedly won the
>second round for the pistons before they were a force to be
>wreckin with)
prince is NOT as versatile as pippen. he's made great plays and has done what was asked of him, but he did not shoulder NEARLY the responsibilities that pippen did during the bulls run. pippen's greatest attribute was that more than any other player in history besides bill russell, he could put his footprint on an entire game without contributing a lot in the points column.

>and also keep in mind that the bulls always beat teams in the
>championship series that never had a *real* center position
>player (a rookie elden campbell, cliff robinson, oliver
>miller, that dude with the brown euroflip on the sonics, &
>greg oostertag)
lol i really shouldn't be upset at you, when i was ten years old (your age when you witnessed all of this) things looked a hell of a lot different from when i got older too. during the bulls championship runs, they defeated alonzo mourning, patrick ewing, brad daugherty, shaquille o'neal, kevin duckworth (who was nice with the blazers and a definite center, say about him what you will), bill laimbeer/james edwards, rik smits, greg ostertag (he's a center, despite what your subjective feelings say). they beat EVERYONE before them. was it their fault they didn't have a "great" center to face in the finals? they beat enough great ones along the way. and btw, their centers were quite pedestrian as well so it wasn't like not playing a *real* center gave them a HUGE advantage in the middle, their guys were always still the deficiency. keep in mind the pistons don't have a "real" center either, so by your own logic, the bulls would be able to handle them just fine.

really i can't argue with a ten year old's memories so i'll just stop here.

>nah, i'd put prince and pippen pretty much dead even.

you biased fuck!

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with the pistons LOL

& that Jazz team was pretty good too. A lot of great teams didn't get championship because of MJ. No shame in that.


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Define "drive them crazy" because I think with both Wallaces the Pistons are actually the better rebounding team. Too bad they are also the worse shooting team.

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sheed be having rodman chasing him all thw way to the 3 point line, swishing 3s on him, talking shit about his goofy hair.

not to mention if there was every a jump ball with rodman, that's a automatic pistons ball lol....

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Rodman would tangle up with Sheed, grab his booty, lick his arm... he'd do anything to make Sheed lose his cool. He wouldn't do much verbally. He'd do it physically.

then to just sit under the basket all day while rodman tangles him up, he can't be pullin that shit if he's jumps back out to the 3 point line for a kick out.

oh yeah, may 18, 1985. (see #21)

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Yet, you're now an expert on how good this Pistons team is versus that super Bulls team. I'm done.

so you gotta be atleast 21 or older to know how basketball works.

get the FUCK outta here!

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all you've said is "rodman tangles players & jordan is god"

that's great and all, but.....

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Jordan's teams have already proven their worth. You're getting high off of a Pistons 29-5 start.

when you were talking about pippen (SF) on hamilton (SG)?

or rodman (PF) drivng ben (C) crazy?

yeah, that was almost as on point as me saying:

1. BEN WALLACE WOULD BLOCK ALL OF RON HARPERS SHOTS
2. RASHEED WOULD MAKES 3s OVER STEVE KERR ALL DAY LONG
3. CHAUNCY WOULD RUN AROUND LUC LONGLY'S "DOWN UNDER" GINGER ASS ALL DAY LONG
4. MJ WOULD GET 2 TECH. FOULS AFTER GETTING MAD FROM CHASING RIP ALL SERIES LONG
5. TAYSHAUN WOULD MAKE AN ASS OF RON HARPER
5. PHIL JACKSON WOULD LOSE HIS LUCKY GREATFUL DEAD SHOW

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but if you didn't know, Pippen would guard point guards sometimes. Nevermind runaround-thru-screen guards like Hamilton. But now that I think about it, Pippen would probably be assigned to Billups. That was just how Pippen rolled. Jordan would probably defend Rip. And Rip isn't nearly as crafty with drawing fouls as Reggie Miller (something everyone forgets), and Jordan would be able to handle Rip. I already know what the worm would do. And he'd get position on the great Ben Wallace for boards. Prince would have to guard tall-ass Kukoc... Man, why are we debating this? The Bulls have proven their worth. Pistons have more work to do. They're a great team, but you're trying to compare them to the 72 win Bulls. Come on.

well done.

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A lesser Bulls championship team treated an even greater Pistons championship team five years before the 72 win season. They keep trying to come up with this type shit to save face after they made one of the biggest punk moves in sports history the way they exited the court that day. They know they'll never have anything on us again so they try telling themselves shit like this. I'm not surprised.

one is alot faster but the other is alot taller.

The '05-'06 Pistons could clearly take one of those teams. Right.

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food for thought.

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back then

Those 3 centers alone couldn't get past Jordan. Jordan had to retire for Ewing and Shaq to even reach the finals from the East.

yeah they beat other good centers in rounds leading up to the finals, but it doesn't really matter if you're Zo on the 8th place team in the East in a 5 game series, nahmean?

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Lemme briefly recap this all for you:
1) Only once was Mourning an 8th seed against the Bulls
2) In the '92 playoffs the Bulls beat Ewing and the Knicks in the 2nd round, they beat Brad Daugherty (one of the most underrated centers of the time) and the Cavs (who had the 2nd best record in the East w/ 57 wins) in the East Finals.
3) In the '93 playoffs the Bulls beat Ewing and the Knicks in the East Finals (despite the Knicks having the better record and home court advantage...infamous Charles Smith blocked 5 times in the closing seconds).
4) In the '96 playoffs the Bulls swept Shaq and the defending East champion Orlando Magic (who had the 2nd best record in the East w/ 60 wins) in the East Finals.
5) In the '97 playoffs the Bulls beat down Mourning and the Heat( who had the 2nd best record in the East w/ 61 wins) in the East Finals.

That's just a snap shot. The Bulls beat down teams better than any of these teams today on their way to the finals. Let's not forget our past.

'95-'96: Big men around the league

1) Orlando - Shaq O'Neal, Horace Grant, Jon Koncak
2) New York - Pat Ewing, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, JR Reid, Charles Smith
3) Miami - Alonzo Mourning, Chris Gatling, Kevin Willis, Kurt Thomas
4) Washington - Chris Webber, Juwan Howard, George Muresan, Rasheed Wallace,
5) Boston - Dino Radja, Eric Montross, Pervis Ellison, Alton Lister
6) New Jersey - Armen Gilliam, Shawn Bradley, PJ Brown, Jayson Williams, Yinka Dare
7) Philly - Clarance Weatherspoon, Sharone Wright, Tony Massenburg, Derrick Alston

1) Chicago - Luc Longley, Dennis Rodman, Bill Wennington, Dickey Simpkins
2) Indiana - Rik Smits, Dale Davis, Antonio Davis
3) Cleveland - Tyrone Hill, Michael Cage
4) Atlanta - Andrew Lang, Grant Long, Alan Henderson, Sean Rooks
5) Detroit - Otis Thorpe, Terry Mills, Theo Ratliff, Mark West
6) Charlotte - Larry Johnson, Matt Geiger, George Zidek, Robert Parish
7) Milwaukee - Vin Baker, Terry Cummings, Benoit Benjamin, Marty Conlon
8) Toronto - Oliver Miller, Tony Massenburg, Carlos Rogers, Zan Tabak, Acie Earl

1) San Antonio - David Robinson, Charles Smith, JR Reid, Will Perdue
2) Utah - Karl Malone, Adam Keefe, Felton Spencer, Greg Foster, Greg Ostertag
3) Houston - Hakeem Olajuwon, Robert Horry, Mark Bryant, Peter Chilcutt
4) Denver - Antonio McDyess, Dikembe Mutombo, Don MacLean, Laphonso Ellis
5) Dallas - Popeye Jones, Loren Myer, Cherokee Parks, Lorenzo Williams
6) Minny - Tom Gugliotta, Kevin Garnett, Andrew Lang, Sean Rooks,
7) Vancouver - Benoit Benjamin, Bryant Reeves, Anthony Avent

1) Seattle - Shawn Kemp, Sam Perkins, Ervin Johnson, Frank Brickowski
2) LA Lakes - Elden Campbell, Vlade Divac, Corie Blount
3) Portland - Cliff Robinson, Air Sabonis, Gary Trent, Buck Williams, Chris Dudley
4) Phoenix - Charles Barkley, Danny Manning, Wayman Tisdale, AC Green, Hotrod Williams, Joe Kleine
5) Sactown - Brian Grant, Olden Polynice, Michael Smith, Duane Causwell
6) Golden State - Joe Smith, Rony Seikaly, Kevin Willis, Chris Gatling, Donyell Marshall
7) LA Clips - Loy Vaught, Bison Dele, Stanley Roberts, Bo Outlaw

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MOST teams in the league had more going for them in the big man department than the Bulls.

You've got to realize you just cannot beat Michael Jordan in the 90's. He would do whatever he had to do, and it would get done.

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5) Boston - Dino Radja, Eric Montross, Pervis Ellison, Alton Lister

'95-'96
Dino - 19.7ppg, 9.8rpg, 1.6apg, .91spg, 1.53bpg in 37.4mpg
Montross - 7.2ppg, 5.8rpg, .7apg, .31spg, .48bpg in 23.5mpg
Pervis - 5.3ppg, 6.5rpg, .9apg, .57spg, 1.43bpg in 20.7mpg
Lister - 2.3ppg, 4.4rpg, .3apg, .11spg, .68bpg in 11.4mpg

vs.

'05-'06
Blount - 13.1ppg, 4.5rpg, 1.8apg, .34spg, .97bpg in 29.3mpg
Big Al - 7.7ppg, 4.7rpg, .6apg, .58spg, .83bpg in 17.6mpg
Raef - 7.7ppg, 4.3rpg, .8apg, .21spg, .97bpg in 24.1mpg
Perk - 2.9ppg, 4.9rpg, .9apg, .23spg, 1.03bpg in 14.7mpg

'95-'96
34.5ppg, 26.5rpg, 3.5apg, 1.90spg, 4.12bpg in 93mpg

vs.

'05-'06
31.4ppg, 18.4rpg, 4.1apg, 1.36spg, 3.80bpg in 85.7mpg

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I think firing Doc would improve things greatly. Perk is our 2nd leading rebounder and leading shot blocker in 14.7mpg. Just 14.7mpg. Dear gods. And Al, with so much potential, getting 17.6mpg. There's no way this can be justified.

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I mean, I don't think this year's Pistons could stop Kemp and Payton, nevermind the Bulls.