finals are over. people happy (duke fans, lebronians, knick haters, etc.). lotta people mad (they know who they are...they the ones reading this and mumbling "whatever..i ain't mad. what i got to be mad about?")...BECAUSE YOU MAD, SUCKA!

anyway...

time to go on record about the next crop of players whose NBA adventures will be making us happy or making us pretend to not be mad.

let's get it...

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i think he'll max out as a camby-type dude. never will be a "star"...just a solid pro.

not dumb enough to be a stromile type. to me, camby is the ceiling and the floor for him

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Consistent leader in rebounds, blocks, DPOY votes.

Considering that Nerlens was better his freshman year than Camby was his freshman year, that leads me to believe that if he can stay on the court, he should be better than Camby. I think Noel can score more points per game than Camby generally did in the pros.

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He can absolutely do Camby's 12 boards per game, 3 blocks per game, defensive stronghold in the paint, 9-12 points per game. I think with work he could become more of an offensive presence than Camby really was at the pro level.

Worst case in reality obviously is darker than that, I just mean in a world presuming health and no coach/roster issues, what he can accomplish. His basement is pretty goddamn high in my book.

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Nerlens will be lucky to be that good.

Even pre-injury that was true.

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Honestly.

If that knee comes all the way back? Yep.

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>Considering that Nerlens was better his freshman year than
>Camby was his freshman year, that leads me to believe that if
>he can stay on the court, he should be better than Camby. I

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>i think he'll max out as a camby-type dude. never will be a
>"star"...just a solid pro.
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>not dumb enough to be a stromile type. to me, camby is the
>ceiling and the floor for him

Maaaad skinny with injury concerns at 18? Limited offensive skills? Just not seeing anything special about dude

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He could guard 3-5 once he puts more weight on.

One of the best defenders I've seen play at Kentucky. And better on that end than Anthony Davis.

He'll be a good passer from the jump in the NBA.

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camby as a youngster, and defensive specialist theo as an old guy.
he is going to have a few ridiculous block games when it's all said and done. 8-14-11 type games. and some where he's a non factor.

good pro.

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as it is.

I think Noel will be a lot like Serge Ibaka, personally. Weakside shot blocker, pogo stick on the glass and a guy with some untapped offense but not too too much

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Agreed. Great starter, not a #1 guy.

I never got the hype. Probably one of the worst #1 recruit in 8 yrs. His offense is like Greg Oden minus the lumbering dunk finish.

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Floor: Greg Oden (what his career has been, not skillset).

If he lands somewhere in the middle, he'll be a Tyson Chandler type player but evolved (more of a floor runner, hustle guy than Tyson).

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Unlike Stro/Tyrus and them, Nerlens likes to play ball. He's been doing ball-handling drills and Freethrows ever since he got off crutches. The boy wants to beast out and understands how. He's not going to be a 20/game dude but I bet that he's getting an easier 18/game at 25 than most big men. His D is going to be amazing though. Great foot slide on the pick and roll, great weakside help. If he can get strong enough to not let people get in his chest then he's 18-10 and a cross between Ibaka and Marc Gasol.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

nm

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

Obviously his circumstances could speed or slow this (please God not Charlotte or Sacramento), but he has the talent to be in line behind James Harden (Kobe done by year 3, Wade effectively done). I fully expect at least 18 PPG by year 3.

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I wanna see how that whole roster shakes out in the coming season or two.

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Already showing up to camp out of shape, not a good look. Most talented player in the draft, might need an ideal situation to avoid bustin out.

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given his background, anyone who parties off any failures for this dude can go to hell.

but, uh, yeah, i just think he's got too much going against him to succeed. maybe finds some life late in his career in a jason terry/mavs type role, where he might be overqualified. but as a starter/franchise building block, hell no.

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where he will fit in as a pro but doesn't have positional identity problem, just style and shaping stuff. i think he will be a very, very good player. should be an all-star level guy, not sure about all-nba.

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Will be a disappointment, but will stick in the league.

Good shooter off the bench, you could start him in a pinch, but that won't win you many games.

Yall talkin top 5. lol. On his own team maybe he will be top 5 Guard.

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and the J ain't as pure but I think he can get close if he works on it.

Maybe an evolved/healthy version of Allen Houston.

He also has what O_E would call Nyquil potential. I see a lil Paul George in him. But if he became very aggressive, he'd be dangerous.

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his athleticism in the first half of his career is so underrated

16-20 per game with no significant boards or assists. Look, we need to stop the damn Ray Allen comps. Ray had a handle, he was great off the bounce from jump. Will Ben ever get to the point where he can leverage his J to get to the rim at ease like Ray was doing from 2001-2009?

I don't think he has the focus to defend either. I see a lot of empty buckets coming from this dude. Unless he ends up on a team with a great coach and pg, then he might be Mitch Richmond-esque with his. (Early mitch, Golden State Mitch)

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

but its something i cant really trust abt african hoop cats

outside of dream they disappoint a lil

i guess im saying he could ball out or flame out, but i dont see him just being a average bench warmer cat, either star or d league


does it even matter?

He's the type of talent with the type of work ethic you just don't question. Scary effective at putting the ball in the hoop, scores in a variety of ways, chooses his 3s carefully and generally makes them, and a stud of a defender for the most part.

Worst case scenario: Tony Allen with a better offensive skill set, which most teams would love to have at the 2. The type of guy it wouldn't surprise me to see make at least one All-Star team, and honestly, if he ended up pushing Top 5 SGs in the league, I wouldn't be surprised either. One of those guys with a pretty high basement whose ceiling could keep growing over the next several years the more time he has in the league.

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i think he'll max out at 15 ppg but he'll shoot a high percentage and after a while be a perennial all defense guy.

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The dude is a beast, love this guy. He and Zeller had me pulling for Indiana, whom I typically despise. Great length, great quickness, explosive, smart, really he is a near complete package. There will be Iggy comparisons, I can see that for him but to me that is like the mid-range of his potential. He could be a really good one.

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just don't see him droppin 20 at any time.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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he could adapt but overall i think he doesn't score in enough different ways consistently to do it in the pros. but his defense and ability to get out in transition are so attractive that it doesn't matter. i'd gladly spend a top ten pick on him

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were within 3 feet of the rim. doubt it'll be like that in the nba for him if he's trying to score > 15 or so points. but a kawhi leonard type of player in that hustle/defend/fight style. still remember how mad some locals were that georgtown didn't recruit him harder. i thought they were being normal fans bitching about hoya recruiting because that's what that board does, but i was wrong on this one.


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he needs to be deadly from the corners and, if possible, the elbow/elbow extended.

basically he needs to be in a position to slash and he wont be able to do it if people dont respect his shot.

if he can reach the point where people run him off that corner trey, he is going to be trouble. hard close out and PYOON, drive the baseline and score from in close.

so i dont think he needs to turn into ray allen, he just needs to have a couple spots on the perimeter where he's very comfortable to automatic. that will open up his game. i feel like he's working on that.

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Oladipo puts in work. so if he can get those couple spots, he'll be good. and i suspect he will.

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You have to be TRANSCENDANT or physically dominant to put up 20+ regularly. Only 9 dudes avg'ed 20/game this year. As opposed to even 06 when 22 dudes put those numbers up. Team defenses are too good. Volume scorers can't exist successfully anymore unless you're Kobe/Bron good at getting buckets. If you can score opportunistically and pass the ball well you're more valuable as a player. That's why I can't rock with BMac as much

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