After more than a decades worth of bangers behind them, the dynamic duo of G.ifted U.nlimited R.hymes U.niversal & the almighty Primo, have called it quits (collectively). No swipe available, I got the word directly from Guru's boy Gusmo (*see Sililoquy Of Chaos*), as he was reaching out to me via AOL-IM in efforts to get me Guru's new solo wax (he's Guru's wax/college radio promo cat now or something).
I initially was clowning, saying he shoulda said something to GURU about his new album cover (w/ the strange shot of Guru holding a sword infront of the green numbers & letters Matrix pattern). He said that decision was all up to Guru, & how he's his own man. Then he dropped 'Gangstarr's broke up' outta nowhere...
After the Ownerz, alotta folks voiced their desire to see this happen, well here it is.
24. "response to dipshit:" In response to Reply # 14
>they broke tha fugg up, i.e.; are no longer recording >material as a group. U dumb as hell huh...?
you think that guru and primo have been in the studio 9-5 every day since the late 80s? years passed in between some of their albums. when they record together, they're a group, when they're not recording together they're not a group. i doubt there's a document binding them together as "group". don't even bother responding if you can only grasp the kindergartener-level aspect of what i am saying.
30. "disbanded... is that better for you asshole?" In response to Reply # 24 Mon May-02-05 04:03 PM by topspin
damn...
I'm just using the words that Gusmo, a cat in their circle, used, & you come with this 'did they stop sleeping together' homo bullshit. Get a life homo, cus your e-life is pretty sad...
this cant be true. after the Ownerz, primo said they were in the studio again. i was just thinking that its been a damn long time since he said that. im so sad, this is terrible news. gang starr was "ONE OF THE BEST YET" and i saw them performing not too long ago. saw them about a year ago @ toads place in new haven AND @ bbkings last march. as legit as this post sounds, i aint believn nutn til i see sum newz.
31. "*Begins suicide watch on My_SP1200_Broken_again*" In response to Reply # 0 Mon May-02-05 04:03 PM by NewBorn202
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--- We From A Place Where Dem Boys Still Pimpin' Them Hoes We From A Place Cadillacs Still Ridin' On Vogues We From A Place Where My Soul Still Don't Feel Free Where A Flag Means More Than Me(IN MISSISSIPPI)
34. "I Don't Believe One Word Of It Until I Hear It Frum Their Mouth" In response to Reply # 0
Even though Primo haz admitted dat they have broken up before (more than once) I doubt dat Guru'z wordz mean much (even though he'z da only one who deservez da right to uze da name GangStarr) since he waz da one cauzin' all da beef between him & Primo.
If I hear it from dem both or even frum Premeir himself den I would accept da newz of dem breakin' up.
But we all know dat dem breakin' up doezn't mean dat they will never do muzik together again.
36. "wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" In response to Reply # 0
i hope this isn't true. guru is just alright when he ventures off and does his solo shit. he needs dj premier. facts are facts. i know they were unhappy with virgin, so i hope this is just a move to get out of that situation. i hate these fuckin' record labels. i believe jive is the biggest reason that a tribe called quest broke up back in '98.
38. "im dead - what?.." In response to Reply # 0 Mon May-02-05 04:20 PM by GangStarr
okay - so yeah its moments like these when having a log-in named after a group/artist is really dumb, but ive been here too long to change.
plus i had 'greeneyedbandit' a looooooong ass time ago, but i forgot the password before i changed it. (in addition to being original, im also a genius).
ANYWAY AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL GROUP - Well, they already put in a lot of work. Time off/retirement isn't a bad thing. If you are still waiting for GangStarr to change the game, you apparently have missed one of the greatest groups in hip-hop's influence on their art.
As long as I'm still allowed to keep the albums I have - I'm not sweating it.
47. "bout time... Ownerz was hard to listen to" In response to Reply # 0
And now for a moment of PIFF:
"Like Mannie Fresh? YES! I'm into big bills Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal! I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8 Hollows dig in his face, that's what I call a tip drill" -- Malcom X
83. "sweetie u want a prize for meeting an artist?? ..take this nut in ur eye" In response to Reply # 78
>i have met guru and dude was on some other isht (malik b type >isht)
ur a real silly one... some of the greatest artists of all time were on some next shit.. lol@malik b shit.. get off his balls already.. like u perfect and shit..
61. "nah allison, U cut the crap (coy ass muthafugga)" In response to Reply # 58
Nowhere in this post did I say that this shouldn't happen. While cats in this post (& on this site on the regular) refer to 'Ownerz' primarily, they discount the trailblazing this duo did throughout the 90's. I just hate seeing those facts ignored...
77. "Everyone nuts themselves over Playtawnin" In response to Reply # 74
I liked some of the songs (Skillz, Rite Where U Stand, Deadly Habitz was allright), but by and large it just didn't have many standout tracks, in fact, aside from Skillz, the best of it would have been just album tracks on their other albums, not standouts. It's been awhile since I listened, so maybe I'm neglecting a good song or two, but I would rate their albums that I own
5 stars- Step in the Arena 5 stars- Moment of Truth (maybe 4 3/4, or 4 1/2, on further reflection) 5 stars- Hard To Earn 4 1/2 stars- Daily Operation 3 stars- The Ownerz
So yeah, it's well below the standard of their previous work, and it ranks as one of the biggest disappointments (in terms of how much I anticipated it, vs. how much I actually enjoyed it and felt compelled to listen to it) of recent years.
53. "RE: R.I.P. GANGSTARR" In response to Reply # 0
Man wtf is wrong with the Ownerz? i thought it was on point on both sides. Imma be mad if this is true, there's too few cold cats left in this game and i dont need to lose them too. yeah and Guru def needs Premo, its just aint the same over other cats beats even if they big name producers...its just aint premo
Avy: Tyrion disrespects King Joffrey yet again
"If your life consists of NO drankin, NO drugs, NO loose booty, NO fatty foods, NO additives, NO preservatives, AND no waings.......then what the fuck you wanna live so long for, boring ass n****?" - Tay
109. "mad and old...maybe" In response to Reply # 73
...but Guru had that "trifecta" on that Bald Head Slick and the Click album, not the Ownerz...Premier doesn't let him spit BS on his tracks.
Ownerz will go down in Gang Starr lore as the "angry" album. Guru was P.O.ed, so was Premier, and it shows in the tracks...there's definitely an air of tension on the track. As far as Guru was concerned, there were only two major points points that really were "wack":
- recycling of a verse he had "freestyled" on "Capture (Militia Part III)"
- going overboard with the greasy talk/braggadocio on several tracks
some might mention the "degweez" line but that was hilarious especially with the way that atruhead pointed it out:
"degweez
that's horrible"
LMAO.
Guru's performance on "Sabotage", and "Zonin" pretty much kept the any other minor shortfalls in check.
65. "RE: R.I.P. GANGSTARR" In response to Reply # 0
No frontin' I'm sad this is happening like this. I'd rather they hung it up together as a group than break up and do solos. Guru sounds best with Preme but hey I'm just a fan..so...oh well..
"Do to others what you would others have done unto you." - The Lord Jesus Christ
maybe Ownerz wasn't their best album, but it was definetly a worhty album. i dont know why yall be hating on it so much. of course moment of truth, step in the arena, hard to earn, etc... were all classics, but the ownerz wasn't bad at all for all the rubish that is out now. o well, im still waiting for a more official word than this
75. "Damn..I patterned my upcoming career after them cats..." In response to Reply # 0 Mon May-02-05 08:11 PM by Chapter Crew
That some sad news, but the party can't last forever I guess.. From windy to sincity RebelPalooza(at UNLV) w/ Talib Kweli Manor Mindstate(NicolayMix)/ON 10 Single 12" In May Us Vs Them Early May,June (the list is Building) Check out snippets of the album at: www.awthentix.com
84. "RE: guru came back lyrically on owners" In response to Reply # 81
i liked the Ownerz because the beats were tight but Guru not so much,
shit though, i guess i sortof agree with the idea that they went out on top, Daily Operation and Step into the Arena are top 50 hip hop albums of all time IMO
88. "RE: R.I.P. GANGSTARR" In response to Reply # 0
Damn man, that just fucked my whole shit up... Thoes two will be back......... Right? _____________________________ You don’t think that America is the land of the Free? Well, where else could Michael Jackson be born a poor black boy in Iowa and Die a rich white man in Cali?
Man I hate to up THIS, but people need to see this one.... _____________________________ You don’t think that America is the land of the Free? Well, where else could Michael Jackson be born a poor black boy in Iowa and Die a rich white man in Cali?
105. "Full clip:a decade of hits" In response to Reply # 102
I got mine in the special promotional metal casing.It was good, but I'm talking the works.Instrumentals for all the tracks,bundled with their videos and a documentary.More of a Box set than a greatest hits CD.
I'm waiting for official word. This just cannot stand. I'm used to them doing their own thing (Jazzamatazz, Baldhead Slick and the Clique) but it has, and always will be, Guru and Premier. So The Ownerz didn't set the world ablaze like so many people wanted it to. I'm not buying the breakup shit just yet.
However....
If it does prove true, you better put be on suicide alert like they had to do my brother when EPMD broke up.
*puts on Credit Is Due, then Mass Appeal for 5 hours in constant prayer vigil*
<-- Dave Thomas knows what's up... __________________________
Jay: Look here homie, any nigga can get a hit record. This here is about respect. Game: Like Gladys Knight. Jay: Aretha Franklin. Game: Word, I like her too. Jay: Nigga...
114. "Ummm... Tribe Redux, anyone (contract struggle)?" In response to Reply # 0 Wed May-04-05 01:43 AM by soulsike
they're caught up in litigation w/ Virgin right now. They thought they were done w/ their contract and ready to go elsewhere, Virgin said "you got more". GS are trying to make the Hits & Vids set the last, but Virgin saying Hits don't count, you owe another full studio set...
*sound familiar Tribe fans?*
Tribe "broke up" cause they were mad at Jive. Took a few years off, Jive put out a Hits set and a Rarities set. Tribe thought that finished their contract, said "We're back together!". Jive said "Oh, good. Now that you're together again, remember that Hits sets don't count in your contract. Anything you record together is ours. We put those comps out just to keep fresh product in the market" Tribe "breaks up" again...
As far as GangStarr goes, I'm kinda glad, cause now that Jermaine Dupri is head of Urban EMI, do we really want Guru rapping to Dupri's bells (on a sure sign of the end times, a Primo/Dupri CO-PRODUCTION???? *shivers*)
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