release date: 31/10

IGN review:

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/741/741991p1.html

10 Presentation
Lightning quick load times, one of the best storylines for any genre on any system for the entire year, and a gigantic fully-realized world is yours right out of the box.
10 Graphics
A PS2 technical accomplishment in every sense. Slowdown is a non-factor, model detail is incredible, facial and skeletal animation is stellar, and the artistic design kicks ass.
9.0 Sound
English and Scottish voice actors play out the storyline perfectly and the sound effects are varied and first-rate. Musically, FF12 isn't the best in the series, but is still extremely strong.
9.0 Gameplay
The new gambit system, full-camera control, license board upgrades, and enemy AI make for a Final Fantasy like no other. Best of all, it's fun AND challenging.
9.0 Lasting Appeal
Expect 40-100 hours of gameplay depending on your grinding preferences. Luckily, there are plenty of mini-games and hidden goodies to uncover along the way.
9.5
Incredible OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

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but the demo... and the main character...

rrrgggg... so confused...

/nm/

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Stoicism and chill.
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and you know it too

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maybe next year when it's a million seller.
i can wait.
i'm a very patient person.

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my ps2 is also dead

dead, as in i took a hammer to it after one too many 'disc read errors.' yes, i regretted it after it was over but damn if it wasn't the most cathartic experience i've had in years

i'm waiting to see how the ps3 launch goes and if it will truly upscale ps1 & 2 games to 720p. ps2 games look like shit on my dlp

besides, rogue galaxy doesn't drop until the beginning of next year and it's not like there aren't a grip of 360 titles coming out to hold me over until then

But I think I'm incapable of NOT buying it....kinda like how people can't stop watching the Simpsons no matter how bad it's gotten

I skipped out on FFXI because I don't do the MMORPG thing, so my FF craving has been building up for years now

FFXII better be good because I NEED it

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DOOM Tribute - https://youtu.be/qmBQ2BDefKM
Donut of the Heart cover in Javascript - https://youtu.be/afLc2CkC8lk

9.5 out of 10? Hmmm, that's suspiciously low coming from IGN. That's like Grabbed by the Ghoulies bad. (kidding)

Yeah, I'm trying to decide if I want to pre-order, pick it up when it comes out or order from Amazon (half off on strategy guide, which for 10 bucks would be a cool amusement).

Whatever this becomes,
Whatever words I say, we are the fortunate ones,
And when the days are done I won't forget.

"Do you want the collector's edition?"
"What's that got?"
"Check out this casing! Plus it's got a behind the scenes and history feature."
"That does appeal to the geek in me... Sure, why not?"
"What about the strategy guide?"
"Nah, don't need that..."
"You should probably look into it, it's got a lot of good material there plus you don't want to keep running to the PC to check things or when you're stuck."
"Eh..."
"If you buy it now you get 20% off."
"Yeah, I'll probably end up picking it up later, might as well get it now with a discount."
"Do you want it in the collector's edition?"
"Damn, they're really going all out, aren't they? :sigh: ...What's it got?"
"Well this really sweet artbook, plus if you consider it's 20% off, it's not that different than buying a normal one for full price."
"Sure, what's my total?"
"$88."

They should NOT let pretty girls work at EB anymore. I figure it's my present to me for sticking with my summer job into the college year and finishing up this weekend. Now I gotta sit around here waiting for midnight to roll around.

this chick better have a giant rack and/or a FFVI t-shirt on with kefka laughing hysterically

cuz man

you got took

I'm glad no girls work at my EB, because I'm stretching to pay for the game alone, lol

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I think they must've borrowed this girl from the Hair Salon next door to trap XII pre-orders. I cannot count the amount of stupid things I've bought because of pretty checkout girls. I've got like 8 different book club membership cards. Luckily the art book for the game is damned cool and the strat guide pretty good (350 pages). I haven't checked out the special DVD features, but it's not looking like a bad purchase. Just a MUCH larger one than I expected.

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Im VERY excited because of the politically heavy storyline.....but gotta finish Xenosaga ep III first though.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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so you know it's gonna be good!

Whatever this becomes,
Whatever words I say, we are the fortunate ones,
And when the days are done I won't forget.

(gotta pretend FFT Advance never happened though....i blame Nintendo for that disappointment, lol)

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DOOM Tribute - https://youtu.be/qmBQ2BDefKM
Donut of the Heart cover in Javascript - https://youtu.be/afLc2CkC8lk

>(gotta pretend FFT Advance never happened though....i blame
>Nintendo for that disappointment, lol)

C'mon on now, that game wasn't bad by any means. All my vitrol is directed at Final Fantasy Mystic Quest

I actually liked FFTA. Like a lot. It wasn't FFT by any measure, but I didn't need it to be. It was a great game in its own and suitable for kids. That's a rarity.

besides that, the story, the lack of challenging battles, and the laws, the rest of the game is quite good i guess, i like how you can go back to your original position after you move, unlike FFT

but yeah, booo to annoying kids

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DOOM Tribute - https://youtu.be/qmBQ2BDefKM
Donut of the Heart cover in Javascript - https://youtu.be/afLc2CkC8lk

Yeah, I'll give you that. But every Final Fantasy has had its share of obnoxious characters in my opinion. Not every Final Fantasy has had the ability to have characters of multiple races and jobs in your party though which is one of the things that won me over.

Haha, just finished Ep III last week. I was worried I wasn't going to be able finish in time, so I hunkered down and did all of disc 2 in like 3 sittings.

http://sundasill.tumblr.com/

I might just have to cop it at that price (although I didn't like the demo too much).


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I'd be angry about my EB preorder if I wasn't hellbent on getting the collector's edition. Damn my materialistic tendencies!

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They adopted WAY too many of the features from XI (including the oh-so-fun camera). The towns/fields in XI were huge to house all those players. I'm the only one playing here, these areas are overwhelming to have at the beginning of the game. I feel like I spend more time checking a map than enjoying the environs.

Customization is all the hell bent out of wack. Who came up with this License Board idea? Think the Sphere Grid but for EVERYTHING and no paths (pick random things and they open more random things). Want to equip new armor? Hope you have the LP and the correct path to unlock it.

Also, in XI its cool to have the strong NMs for the high levelled chars passing through. That's not cool in here. When I'm aggroed by some random enemy and see my whole party wiped in one hit, that annoys me.

Other than that its a good game. Decent voice acting, great atmosphere. I like the plot (though the Aladdin protagonist is going to get old) and the concepts. It all feels very Vagrant Story from designs to style. The battle system is fun but I haven't gotten to see much depth yet (damned License Board! I unlock magic but need to go buy it back in the city to use it??). I think once I get used to the style of play it'll really grow on me. It's just a LOT of depth and customization up front to swallow at once.

>(damned License Board! I
>unlock magic but need to go buy it back in the city to use
>it??).

don't think you needed to buy magic since FFIII

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DOOM Tribute - https://youtu.be/qmBQ2BDefKM
Donut of the Heart cover in Javascript - https://youtu.be/afLc2CkC8lk

n/m

*shakes fist*

Whatever this becomes,
Whatever words I say, we are the fortunate ones,
And when the days are done I won't forget.

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DOOM Tribute - https://youtu.be/qmBQ2BDefKM
Donut of the Heart cover in Javascript - https://youtu.be/afLc2CkC8lk

So the initial overwhelming feeling of being tossed into this giant world wears off after a bit. You start to get your bearings and feel immersed instead of swamped. The crazy level spike monster was only in the first dungeon (Why? Why do that in your first dungeon and nowhere else?), but the game still has a nice level of difficulty. I'm still not a fan of the License Board but the battle system has really grown on me and I'm loving the game. Strange to say but the voice acting is one of the best features. Anyway, aside from the License Board the game's great, definitely check it out. I know someone posted the Gamespot review, read up on that if you're curious. It's very accurate and well written.

Oh and the Collector's Edition is actually pretty good. It's not just some thrown together crap for an extra 10 bucks. It's pretty cool stuff if you're interested enough to invest a little extra.

Random thought: When everything needs 2 discs nowadays how is it a game this big and this pretty somehow fit onto one? I almost feel like I must be missing a disc because it's blowing my mind how they fit all this on one.

this might be an esoteric reference, but is it anything like programming the ai in carnage heart for ps1?

Never played Carnage Heart, so I can't really compare. Overall, it's okay. It's a little frustrating right now to get to do what I want it to do because I don't have the proper gambits, so I have to manually handle some of my stuff. Once my number of gambits expands, I'm sure it's going to become more interesting. Right now though, it's a little convoluted (notice a theme?) if I want to do something simple like "Cast protective spells on everyone." But I suppose once I have more gambits, skills and spells it'll get really cool because I'll be able to specialize my tactics for each boss. It's not leaping out as the coolest thing ever yet, but it's not bad or a detriment to the game.

collector's edition. shiny case is irresistible. can't play till tomorrow though.... ugh
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I have a $50 Gamestop credit burning a hole in my pocket. I wanna scoop FFXII up, but with my birthday next week(and x-mas not long after that), I try not to purchase anything that my fam might be plotting as a gift!

CURSES!! Ah well, I'll just live vicariously through this post until after the holidays.

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"Where does a platypus learn a word like hodgepodge?"

Link:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/finalfantasy12/review.html?sid=6160816&tag=topslot;action;2&om_act=convert&click=topslot

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

This will be the first FF game I've ever owned.

Now before you guys get all uppity telling me to go play FF III, VII, and X, lemme explain that for the entire lifespan of the PS2, I refused to pay $200+ to get a PS2 console + mem card + spare controller. So I didn't have a PS2 until like a month ago when a friend gave her old PS2 to my roommate and since she's a girl, she never plays it unless a bunch of people are over rockin' Guitar Hero.

I look forward to the steep learning curve of the Gambit system as well as the FF game mechanics.

Oh wait... I did play FFXI from it's launch to the date they launched the PS2 version. But I don't think that counts, here.

frys.com has a great deal going on: a new ps2 + 10 games for $179.99 shipped

as of today, eb has a trade 3 get one free thing going on

basically, a new ps2, ffxii, bully, and disgaea 2 for $180

i might not be able to pass this up

are you positive about that EB deal?? I called them just last night before I picked up my copy of FFXII and asked if they had any trade-in deals going on or starting up soon and the manager at the store said "Nope, not til 'Black Friday'"

I hope dude wasn't lying to me, otherwise I'll be pissed. I traded in alot of shit to afford my gaming habits over the next couple of months.

i searched cheapassgamer.com for 'trade-in' and didn't notice the post was on the canada boards...

Honestly, I cant wait to get into the thick of this game....I mean, I havent been this excited for an FF since VII.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

...kingdom hearts 2 was fun, but in the end i realized it wasn't THAT fun (okay the ending and final boss were weak)...i gotta hear some really dope stuff about a rpg to cop any now (hence, why i'm in this post)

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Fuck Square for not releasing this during the summer

I barracaded myself into my room last weekend (and Monday) and worked the entire time I wasn't at work straight doing homework and managed to get most of the week done.

Im a sucker for great stories(and I love political thrillers) and great voice acting....this game seemingly has both(the latter has really blown me away, I havent heard one bad voice so far, its REALLY amazing how well they casted so far).

The atmospheres are tremendous...they are very detailed and GIGANTIC, but its not too overwhelming as you have some great maps and you cant talk to everyone. Rabanastre seems like a real damn city, its hectic in some parts, all these NPC's running around, I love how it feels like you are actually walking around this huge city and are just another pea in the pod.

The game starts off slow(once you get past the opening backround story), but once you actually start to do direct missions(at least 2 of my hours have just been spent wandering around, doing the Mark missions, etc), the storyline seriously picks up (esp the first time you see a Judge, their armor is just so excellent).

As for the battle system, Im really liking it. Its fluidly integrated into the maps so the dungeons and fights go by far quicker, and its basically the same thing but without all the waiting. The only thing I wish was that you could actually avoid attacks because ive tried to hide behind rocks and shit only to still get nailed, lol. The Gambit system works really well too imo, Ive fought a couple bosses and my gambit settings have been more than enough to get by easily(although I cant wait to get some more gambits like Target Enemy Leader).

As for the license board, its okay. I dont mind having to get licenses and having to buy the stuff, but I wish there were differences for each character...Ive never liked being able to fully cuztomize anyone into any class(and the basic stat differences arent that much, so for the most part, you can make anyone any class without a noticeable difference). However, with the lack of license points you get, you really have to choose a path and stick to it for your characters. I do like all the differences for each weapon class though, it really makes you think about what you want.

I cant wait to play more, time seriously flies by.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

Lack of license points??

After about 30 minutes of gameplay, you've gained about 50 LPs, man. LPs drop 1-3 for each player for every monster. It's nuts.

But I agree with you on everything else. I am seriously loving this game. I haven't touched my 360 since I got it.

Yes but when every skill later is going to cost you 50-80 LP and you need a lot of those for armors or weapons (or better yet, squares to get TO the squares you need), you start feeling the shortage. You're also going to see a huge money disappearance so save up. I'm noticing an increasing number of RPGs are growing stingy with money. You can no longer just walk in and buy all the best equipment no problem. You might be able to afford new weapons and a new shield for everyone this time, but you'll have to wait til next town for body armor etc.

Okay I'm in the part where I'm headin' into the mines to save the girl, right?

I'm at the part right after we let that little Guest girl go and the three dudes are chasing us.

Any tips on how to take 'em down? No matter what I do, I can't seem to handle them.

I assume you're talking about Ba'Gamnan. The four Bangaas, right? Yeah. You hypothetically could beat them with a lot of levelling, but you're not supposed to. Run.

Anyone ever let the lights go out?

I'm curious as to how deadly the monsters are.

skeletons and zombies came out of the ground everywhere

Whatever this becomes,
Whatever words I say, we are the fortunate ones,
And when the days are done I won't forget.

Ghosts, zombies, bats.....in mere seconds they killed all but one member of my party. Lesson? KILL THOSE DAMN SPIDERS!

ITS ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT....I havent felt this way about an RPG since Xenogears(meaning im in class and just sitting there waiting for it to end so I can rush home and play).

Bad part is, I have a fucking paper due wednesday and the laker game is tomm night too....FUCK.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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