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kobe085
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"Open Source ProTools? meet ardour..."


  

          

http://www.ardour.org/


As suggested in the article here:

http://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/linux-audio.ars/1

imma install it late tonight, give it a few weeks and see what happens...

any other guinea pigs??
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Yep...I'm gonna give this here a shot
Dec 05th 2005
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It might be a while though, I don't actually have a Linux distro
Dec 05th 2005
2
      I'm trying to get it working myself
Dec 05th 2005
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cool. I love open source
Dec 05th 2005
3
This is porting/has ported to Mac
Dec 05th 2005
4
only supports a few plug ins
Dec 05th 2005
only supports a few plug ins
Dec 05th 2005
5
Yeah VST is pretty standard and really ought to have the
Dec 06th 2005
7
No Sequencer
Dec 06th 2005
8
      Complexity or Modularity??
Dec 06th 2005
9
           maybe
Dec 06th 2005
10

InstruMental
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1. "Yep...I'm gonna give this here a shot"
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So far so good on the reading, good looks bringing it to light!


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2. "It might be a while though, I don't actually have a Linux distro"
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here, lol


But I WILL do so!


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PoppaGeorge
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Mon Dec-05-05 11:34 PM

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6. "I'm trying to get it working myself"
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I don't know about it... There's an assload of dependancies I need to install before I can get it running. I believe I have them all installed, but I can't get it past the Jack configuration, it complains about some bullshit and then shuts down.

Maybe I'll put some more effort into it one day.

  

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3. "cool. I love open source"
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but I'm on a mac.

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4. "This is porting/has ported to Mac"
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Just not to Windows...lol I say good choice to avoid it


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los79
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"only supports a few plug ins"


  

          

a sequencer is only as good as the plug ins you run in them. whenever it supports rtas, vst, or au then I can see myself using it. I wonder if it has the same wave editing power that pro tools does with the tabbing through regions and such. when i heard of this, i almost downloaded it without hesitation but thought about all the small but significant features i would leave behind.

  

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5. "only supports a few plug ins"
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a sequencer is only as good as the plug ins you run in them. whenever it supports rtas, vst, or au then I can see myself using it. I wonder if it has the same wave editing power that pro tools does with the tabbing through regions and such. when i heard of this, i almost downloaded it without hesitation but thought about all the small but significant features i would leave behind.

  

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7. "Yeah VST is pretty standard and really ought to have the"
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recognition to garner support.

BTW you seem to be double-posting a lot

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8. "No Sequencer"
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Ardour isn't a sequencer (yet) much like ProTools pre V5.0. It's strictly audio at the moment. In order to get sequencing, you have to use Jack to connect it to an actual sequencing app, like Rosegarden (widely regarded as the best sequencing and audio app under Linux).

This adds an extra layer of complexity to the whole thing.

  

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9. "Complexity or Modularity??"
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that is an arguement made in the article which makes a lot of sense.

in the open source community (to a large extent) if someone else has software that does the job, another app doesn't try and duplicate it half-assed, they just encorporate the other project's functionality somehow...

it may make setup and configuration a little more time consuming, but in the end don't we get a better product???
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10. "maybe"
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In the case of using Rewire to connect Reason and FL Studio to Cubase or ProTools, yes. In the case of using Jack to connect Rosegarden to Ardour, kinda no. Rosegarden already has Jack support and is also an audio app, like Cubase. Now it's redundant. What the folks coding Ardour should have done was incorporate a sequencer directly into the app. They could have integrated the sequencing code from Rosegarden, thus making Ardour a more well rounded app instead of forcing everyone to use a second app for sequencing.

It would be like rewiring Cubase to ProTools, you can do it, but why?

  

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